James fact checks Newsbud’s recent “Syria Under Siege” video and comes to some unfortunate conclusions.
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SHOW NOTES
Sibel attacks 21st Century Wire (Archived link)
Sibel accuses “junkie” news site 21Wire of mystery funding (Archived link)
Sibel replies to George Monbiot to attack Beeley and Bartlett (Archived link)
Sibel claims SSM “kicked out” Beeley/Bartlett. SSM disputes. (Archived link)
Newsbud promises documented expose of Beeley and Bartlett (Archived link)
Syria Under Siege: Guarding Against Wolves in Sheep Clothing
Sibel claims expose “triple fact-checked” (Archived link)
Sibel congratulates Eva’s reporting, offers her a position (Archived link)
Paul Larudee Disavows Sibel
Part 1 (Twitter) / Part 1 (Archive)
Part 2 (Twitter) / Part 2 (Archive)
Part 3 (Twitter) / Part 3 (Archive)
Part 4 (Twitter) / Part 4 (Archive)
Vanessa Beeley’s 2014 tweet archive
“Military Intervention is never the answer.”
Further context to Beeley/Navsteva torture conversation
30 years since Sydneyโs Hilton Hotel bombingโthe unanswered questions
Original source of Mufti mistranslation
Mufti Hassoun Threatens U.S and Europe | The True Story
Beeley quotes Chris York using a “dirty” word (Archived link)
Sibel uses a “dirty” word 1 (Archived link)
Sibel uses a “dirty” word 2 (Archived link)
Sibel uses a “dirty” word 3 (Archived link)
Sibel uses a “dirty” word 4 (Archived link)
Larger context of Beeley’s DM re: Rania Khalek (Archived link)
MSM Syria Lies Need to Be Exposed
Western corporate media ‘disappears’ over 1.5 million Syrians and 4,000 doctors
Syria: Aleppo Doctor Demolishes Imperialist Propaganda and Media Warmongering
Jafaari at UN calls MSF a branch of French intelligence
Newsbudโs Exposรฉ of Beeley and Bartlett: Comment
Sibel discussing doctors and psychologists at torture sites (Archived link)
Cory Morningstar blasts Newsbud for falsely alleging plagiarism
Sibel claims SSM got 1.5 million (Archived link)
SSM response to $1.5 million claim
Sibel tweets Daniel McAdams regarding her campaign part 1 (Archived link)
Sibel tweets Daniel McAdams regarding her campaign part 2 (Archived link)
Sibel tweets Daniel McAdams regarding her campaign part 3 (Archived link)
Sibel tweets Daniel McAdams regarding her campaign part 4 (Archived link)
Example of social media posts being made under the “human decency” campaign (Archived link)
Sibel admits she researched her claims about Patrick Henningsen AFTER she made them, and found that they were false (Archived link)








How could you stand to do this video? Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad you did, but I don’t know how you did it. I did learn a lot though. For one, I’m glad I’m not on Twitter! I was on it for about a week, then they starting banning people and I quit it. I really don’t know what to say about this. Except that I had forgotten to include Vanessa Beeley on my Patreon payout. Luckily, “They Live” and have no bubble gum in Syria. This whole thing was so insane that I have a hard time trying to figure out why Sibel would do such an incredibly stupid, and self-destructive, whatever. I have no words for what she did. Thanks again, though I had to listen to that at 1.5 speed. JimBob from fluorida sez WTF?!
Oops. Apparently Vanessa is not on Patreon.
I’m sure many of us have been hoping for your response to this little drama, knowing how good you are at piercing through the fog and getting at what’s relevant and clear, and obviously given your prior personal/professional association, so just let me add my own big THANK YOU. Can’t have been easy. I’m kind of speechless myself over the whole thing so I’ll leave it at that for now!
You are right John! This was a stellar example of Corbett’s “piercing through the fog” .
I can only imagine the hours this took, because James was extremely thorough and detailed. And he would have to be, because who in their right mind wants to revisit the nutty ugliness of this topic on another episode.
Thanks James, No need to apologise, it has been a good lesson for me.
I guess I had some nagging doubts way back during the round-table meeting when Sibel was trying to promote the idea that “Independent” media was somehow better than “Alternative” media.
The nagging doubt I had was that it is not possible for me to verify if any particular media organisation is independent or not. Sure they may claim that they are solely subscriber funded, but unless I have access to the same surveillance powers as the NSA, how do I know that the CIA etc is not matching every subscriber dollar they receive ten thousand to one?
On the other hand, I can easily verify if media is Alternative. Do they report news that is important and is not mentioned anywhere else? If the answer is yes, then they are Alternative.
Do they provide sources for their claims? Do those sources check out? If yes, they are probably good Alternative media to boot, If not – take the information with a dose of salts.
All something I can verify myself without magic NSA powers!
The lesson for me is not to ignore those nagging little doubts even if they seem insignificant at the time.
I see now that once the concept of Independent media is accepted at can be used as new kind of McCarthyism. Just accuse your victim of receiving funding and there is no way they or anyone else can prove that they are not.
PS
I wont miss you on Twitter, I’m not on it either.
Thanks for this in depth fact check. Even as I was watching the video on Newsbud, I noticed errors right away (for one – claiming Eva had not corrected errors she made, when indeed she had clarified them many times over) and the attempt at tugging at the hearts over doctors … how could the doctors ever do anything wrong (note – I have a high respect for doctors, but certainly know that some are less than credible). The doctor segment in their video just turned my stomach and seemed like pure propaganda. I had to skim through the rest of their video.
Armed with that knowledge, I assumed much of the video was pure hit piece. Thank you for doing the research to help us see this to be true. Now I am a little torn b/c there are contributers on Newsbud I like … but I can never trust Sibel again. Very sad – her Gladio B work was great, and now if anyone comes across it they will see it as pure conspiracy theory. Such is the damage you can do to your past good work when you put out such a smear job now. Not to compare her to Alex Jones … but again, he did some good work in the past too – but now if you point to any of it, his turn to the wacky side has weakend the impact of his past work.
Keep up the great work. And keep up the message – try not to get too invested in the people, its the content they deliver that matters.
I’s hard to get invested in people, we watch reports because we can’t investigate everything, and when people abuse this trust it becomes very disappointing, it does seem that Sibel is doing what she’s doing out of stupidity driven by emotional cause rather than clever undercutting of truth movement, I hope she wakes up.
I don’t agree with everything you say, but you’ve been very professional and smart, I’d say the best independent journalist out there, and it’s sad this came from one of the bodies you’ve been very closely associated with.
Keep up the good work, and here’s for happier stories.
Amen to dropping the twitter… this indeed is a silver lining that lays bare the downside of “ADD” models of “communication”.
Thank you James. I am saying goodbye to Sibel Edmonds and Newsbud. It confirms my gut feeling on this issue.
Weird… the last time I watched her she seemed kinda “off” while talking about the CIA, sounding all “alex jonesy” hyperbolic in describing how if they closed down the CIA all the conmen and murderers getting fired would bump up the crime rate. Sad that this report had to be made from a site that I’ve never heard of saying anything bad about just about anyone i can think about (apart from calling Jon Ronson smarmy one time…lol)
I gotta say: Corbett has a big pair!
Who would want to waste their time digging through someone else’s wet, slimy garbage can… …slogging through menopausal drama goo all the while sorting out trash talk?
I’ve never seen James do ‘drama’.
I hate drama.
If I wanted drama, I would read the celebrity tabloids.
Even my ex-wife (and close friend) makes the joke: “I know you’ll never have two wives. You would get twice the drama.”
For the record – Corbett Report Members mentioning Sibel Edmonds and Newsbud
I read most comments on this website.
For close to a year, on occasion, different Corbett members have mentioned a variety of things about Sibel and Newsbud which were not very positive. No drama — just their opinion, question or an anecdote. (Thank goodness civil discourse is uncensored here.)
Most recently, just prior to this video, some Corbett members who were talking about Newsbud migrated to the thread at Interview 1316 โ Eva Bartlett Exposes the Lies on Syria.
We all know…
Sibel has rapidly accelerated the decline of Newsbud with her hormonal drama vitriol. We all know that we can expect to see “others are blamed for this Newsbud decline”.
Let it be clear: Sibel did this – not anyone else.
I have to admit, this video was the only one I hated watching. It was just so incredibly stupid. Not James’ fault, the subject matter. It was worse than a youboob comment section, because there you expect stupid. But at a supposedly professional journalist site? Strange, as this makes no sense whatsoever. I’m glad he did this, and I can tell that so many others are as well; but I hope it’s never needed again. JimBob from fluorida who had all the drama he needed from his first (and only) ex-wife.
Are you my twin? I hate drama … and this gut feeling. Who I missed the most as a non-subscriber: Filip Kovacevic
Filip Rocks! How can anyone ever get mad at him?
Trashcan – I plan on keeping the trashcan on this thread, not polluting other CorbettReport episodes with Newsbud drama.
This is a pretty good read…
Written November 2017 by Katie Aguilera with comments from familiar folks.
Tag: Newsbud –
When You Donโt Make the Cult
Why I No Longer Support Newsbud
https://seekingredress.com/tag/newsbud/
Thanks HRS. Strange how it all seems to be coming out all at once now that we have taken just a minor look at it. Though the “we” doesn’t really include me; I’m more of an observer. She seems to have fooled enough of the people enough of the time to get where she is today. While it is normal to feel foolish now that the facts are coming to light, that may be an unjust self-condemnation. If we don’t maintain a certain degree of faith in each other, then we truly are lost. For this foolish feeling, which I’m sure most of us feel to an extent, I blame her. Manipulative people like her anger me more than most of the aberrant personalities I’ve run into in my admittedly sketchy life. I may be guilty of many things (okay, I AM guilty of many things), but I’ve never been guilty of wearing sheeps clothing. JimBob from fluorida who is glad his card got hacked after only one month of subscribing to her cult site.
I have actively (as in “activism”) promoted Sibel Edmonds many, many, many, many times in the past and for more than a decade. And I was on the “rah! rah!” bandwagon when she was first starting Newsbud.
I guess we all have had interpersonal relationships similar to this. Everything seems copacetic for awhile, then….
Once again, I go rogue! Lone Wolf JimBob finally went into the settings on bitchute and noticed they want to know if you want to mine for their coins. However, I didn’t find any info on how to participate. Anyone here beyond my abacus-level computer skill set have a clue on this? JimBob from fluorida thinking there may be gold in them hills, but there ain’t no real hills in fluorida.
Hey you long haired, bearded redneck with a davinci style peanut butter sandwich. I saw your comment. Nice.
Thanks. Of course with my mouth, you had to know I’d say something. Not easy for me to be nice though. ๐
Thanks for sharing, the comment section is interesting, f.e. this link https://italkyoubored.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/the-secrets-of-sibel-edmonds/
If she is a Turkish agent, her video about Eva and Vanessa could be a result.
What did I feel when I came across this story? I think I am possessed most of all by the storytellerโs ruthlessness, wanting a great, captivating narrative and indifferent to all else.
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So many of her faithful seem to exhibit cult like behavior. They put all their faith in her, but this is what she (from the blog you just linked to) felt when she first met SE. Doesn’t mean she’s a cult leader, but I can see how she might feed off them. This isn’t something we don’t see a lot of. JimBob from fluorida where we do crazy like no one else
The comments under Katie’s story are worth reading. There are links there.
https://seekingredress.com/tag/newsbud/
Good video James. Never really followed Newsbud it seemed like kind of a cheesy site. All their advertising videos made me kind of throw up in my mouth a bit. As a teller of the truth this is just one more thing for us to check on and be aware of.. Keep up the great work .. oh We are not on twitter either but it is used a lot in MediaMonarchy which we enjoy .. have a good one
The Newsbud team have produced some insanely good work and interesting reports. As many others who have been following Sibels career I’m absolutely cluless and shocked over this and wondering what the hell happened?
I find it sad that the Classified Woman has metamorphosed into the Unhinged Woman.
Thank you James for shining the Light of Reason on this unfortunate situation. It cannot have been a pleasant task but it was a necessary one.
I am thankful you took the time to do this, and completely understand why it was no fun. But for your viewers, I bet it was helpful.
It’s funny that Sibel was shown essentially siding with AJ from Infowars, because my recollection of his first major network public appearance on gun control with pearshape morgan or whoever, was that he was undermining whatever message he hoped to get out with his outlandish behavior.
One of the things that happens is that “they” must invade the people concerned with truth with a bit of lying. One day when the lies are exposed, all followers are undermined by inference, because that’s the way the msm works. So why is sibel self-immolating?
Well… I think it’s a lot of undermining going on, deliberate. You are aghast in the end, but in fact, is this not a false flag? or something like it?
For myself, I watched and watched the gladio series, trying to make heads or tails of it, and all I got was this impression of sibel as someone unable to complete a coherent sentence or thought. Indeed, at times I felt you were also at a loss. But this helps me to understand she was about setting an impression, gaining followers.
For myself, I wish I could send back the tshirt and feel if she were honest, she and newsbud would return my donations, due to false advertising to gain my support.
To be honest, I rarely found anything worthwhile to view that was not better explained elsewhere. So I did not use their site much.
I really am probably the top agent in travel in the country, maybe the world. Top agents worldwide I can only find 3.5 million in sales as the most. I did 4.73 million. I do not have time to verify every detail, as nearly every person does not. I appreciate that you show me your sources,and I do check them out from time to time. But we are all in need of your kind of real journalism, because we do not have the time to be our own.
Sibel and Alex Jones sort of make me think of Amy Goodman, the broken clock of news where maybe twice a day for a moment she may be telling a complete truth… I was first drawn to her after 9/11, because I was looking to be awakened. I waited and waited and waited…. and then abandoned her because I started to see truth and the complete picture were not in the cards.
You pass every litmus test, as this video, painful though it may be, generously demonstrates. You are the up-frontest man in news. I appreciate that. No, I RELY on it.
And thank you for it. I just want to add one small note. Once I intended to give you more money, and you RETURNED IT TO ME THINKING I HAD DUPLICATED by accident.
I also would love to donate to a fund to bring you here or preferably take JEP to you! I mentioned it before, remain serious about this. Glad to book it for you, no fee.
Anyway, final note… This is a relief to me. I was always at a loss to understand the complete support of sibel, as someone I viewed with suspicion due to her refusal to be clear, undermining her own information as she was giving it.
It would be kind of you to spend time going through the important (i suppose!) Gladio series to help make sense of it. Speaking around Sibel as best you can.
Thanks for all. Superb reporter Mr Corbett. My go-to.
As others have said here James, thank you for the video. You did a fantastic job as usual. It has further solidified my confidence in you as a person with integrity. But still, I’ve got my eye on you young fella ๐
I bumped into this situation via Steemit a few days back, and in my opinion, after just scratching the surface with only a tiny bit of research via the Steemit article and a little looking on Twitter, I completely lost confidence in Sibel, and therefore in NewsBud as well. Your video has firmly solidified that sentiment.
I just can’t help but think that Sibel has somehow kind of lost her mind. What she’s saying and doing is just completely incredible. It is inconceivable that a woman with her background and obvious intelligence can keep on in this way. I have to wonder if something bad has happened to her somehow, because what she has been doing, and continues to do, is complete and unsupportable nonsense. What a waste.
She owes a fuck ton of people a shitload of apologies, and I don’t expect to see that happen any time soon. (I’m a highly revered journalist with a bad case of potty mouth.)
Today, 3/29 in the USA…
https://www.newsbud.com/2018/03/21/newsbud-exclusive-report-syria-under-siege-guarding-against-wolves-in-sheeps-clothing/comment-page-1/#comment-28705
QUOTED comment from the above article/video…
Orenda Review says:
March 29, 2018 at 8:38 am
For the careful consideration of the Newsbud Community.
https://www.corbettreport.com/fact-checking-newsbuds-syria-under-siege-video/#comments
(Comment response)
Camille says:
March 29, 2018 at 12:00 pm
James is great as always. I was super disappointed by this report of NBโs. He was dragged into this and did a great job in his response.
The “comment section” has become very quiet. Silent, for hours.
Shortly after my above statement of “The โcomment sectionโ has become very quiet. Silent, for hours.” comments started to appear.
This QUOTE is below “Camille”.
Venita Ramirez says:
March 29, 2018 at 5:40 pm
James Corbett sure makes a strong argument against Newsbud. I am disappointed and have lost a fair degree of trust in your reporting.
For clarity’s sake, this Camille is not that Camille. ๐
This is the first I’m hearing of the situation. I guess I’m not very social. I can appreciate why James had to make this video.
I haven’t really watched Newsbud since they switched to clips on youtube. To me, with only this exposure, this whole thing reeks of some deep, dark DARPA mind manipulating tech.
I did have a total conspiracy theorist moment watching this video. At around 24 minutes in, when Spiro is speaking, when I watched it on my phone I thought he was throwing that 666 sign you hear so much about. I see on my computer he’s holding a device, so maybe that’s nothing. I should shut up.
Before I go I will make a shameless plug for my ‘not a real journalist’ little blog I have going on Steemit. Here is my latest. I even use the โHโ word in it… Halliburton. All of my sources are linked in the post.
https://steemit.com/nature/@camille1234/fracking-with-smart-dust
It’s the kind of cover that most intel agencies use. Probably not all of them, and they may not be nefarious, but merely patriotic. Intent on the doctor’s side does matter. JimBob from fluorida who is nefarious, but not patriotic!
Seems like Sibel is having some kind of breakdown.
If you don’t mind a completely unqualified opinion, it seems there have been glimpses of this for a very long time. I don’t think this is a stress-induced meltdown. I think this is her real self. I like Dr. Reallyhardname as well. He is the nicest evil Russian I’ve ever met. I’ve actually met quite a few Russians and have found them all to be wonderful, outward people who merely suffer from some strange mental illness that makes them want to live in sub-human temperature conditions. JimBob International RedNeck of not right.
To clarify, based upon the sites which HRS and another (who was first but I can’t remember where the posts were now) we had access to a broad range of perspectives in terms of time-span. All of the “sour grapes” had the exact same criticism. While I haven’t paid much attention to her site in a while, I didn’t see it until I went to them. I still didn’t want to believe it, but then James had to go and post this video.
I really don’t know why this one troubles me as much as it does. The implications are wide-ranging and serious and also far beyond my understanding. But what isn’t anymore? But this one is unsettling. We have change coming a little sooner than I wanted. But, I personally believe it will not be a bloody one and that it will be a good thing. One can dream..
Well, yes – the rational exasperated response. But to what? All of it is โdocumentedโ online, but has anyone spoken to Sibel in real life? How anyone checked on her to see why she has gone off the rails? Who is around her? It may not be as obvious as finding her drugged and tied up, but obviously she had to be trusting someone who knew her well enough to appeal to her suspicions with jist the right info to set her off. And after all she has already personally gone thru, could she have been pushed off the edge by targeting her most important asset – her rationality?
Very unfortunate and self destructive turn of events. I agree with Airean, someone should have a conversation with Sibel, to see how she is doing.
From my comments here, and these articles and podcasts I referenced, the one constant that sets her off is anything which questions her point of view. There are a lot of other things going on in the world right now which are also concerning to me. Forbidden Knowledge (I usually just get her blurbs for her video recommendations)is reporting a eerily similar type of craziness on another website. This site isn’t my cup of coffee, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a huge audience. Also, the speech and thought police insanity in the UK is the most lunatic thing I’ve heard of in a long time. All of this happening at the exact same time is probably just a coincidence. And by the way, I am completely sincere when I say I am optimistic about all of this. Stupid people can only beat smart people when we try to out-smart them. You can’t out-smart stupid. Never forget it. But, stupid generally does as it’s told. By whoever is confident. So, I truly am optimistic that this change we’ll be seeing soon (and that I’ve never been accurate with predicting with any degree of accuracy.) will be good and it will be quite peaceful. Relatively speaking. Oh yeah, and almost forget the latest craziness on scary weapons here in the US. As if that wouldn’t be fun to see what would happen. We rednecks know how to go crazy; which is what you would see. So many things going on at the same time. That concerns me much more than SE’s feelings. Though I do admit to being a tad hard-hearted.
Sorry. Meant to delete that post. Couldn’t word it very well. Stoned. And glad about it. JimBob from fluorida who don’t need no stinking law to let him get high.
Ah, your personal application of free will! She’s always shown bias against the Soviets and Russia to a lesser extent due to her family’s situation at that time, having to move etc. But this whole scene seems to have really pushed her over the edge… the menopause angle was funny and perhaps a factor, but unless the chemical imbalance is excessive, it shouldn’t affect this much for this long… so the Monarch issue does come up as a default. There are other ways to have a similar affect of course, but the signs are usually there unless you are ‘asleep’, which she never seemed to be. I don’t do social media, so had no idea any of this was going on, and I do wonder if this report is perhaps more valuable to most people ‘waking up’ than other historical reports, as it shows what can happen to nearly anyone if they don’t keep their ‘channels’ clean from so much bias and emotional reactions. Whether she seemed ‘triggered’ or not would be in question if this was ‘new’ and not an ongoing issue for her.. I’m not a regular on her site, social media etc, so I don’t know. But this is a good lesson for everyone paying attention and that is out on the front lines in the media circus. It does remind me of the ranting that son of the CIA does on his site/channel … can’t think of his name.. the one with both parents ‘ex’ CIA… but ranting has always seemed to be his style… just the way he is… the site Sibel is shown as appearing on early in this report… Most think he’s just basic cointel… but he and most such sites are steppingstones to most of us as we ‘wake up’… and move on to better info sites. Most people get stuck along the way for some reason… in Sibel’s case it seems self inflicted, which is interesting as well… seems a nicely designed trap she’s fallen into, either way, and most of the best traps are self inflicted… emotionally triggered in our relationships usually… the ‘mirrors’ we learn best from.
Yep. And boy did I apply it! Keyboard looks like a bad idea, but it wouldn’t be my first one. Really, I’m thinking it’s a personality trait that was fed a little too well and long. I can’t claim I’m better, but what can I do anyway? I’m in Florida. JimBob from fluorida who is now going to bravely make a peanut butter sandwich to stave off his starvation!
Anyone could trace the online off-the rails- timeline trajectory, but speculations about the cause or her current state have zero validity or insight unless someone knows her real life situation. Although these alternative media researchers seem to be long-distance colleagues from time to time on one topic or another, no one seems to have actually seen her or spoken to her in person for a long time, if ever. Obviously, there is more going on here than โtrue colorsโ surfacing, or the โhormonalโ musings of absolute morons .
I didn’t say I was the end all, be all of it. But this is my opinion based off of a pretty reasonable trail of logic. But, you have as much chance of being right as anyone else. And just because I traced it, doesn’t make it invalid. I just tell my truth as best I can. What someone else makes of it is their business. JimBob who always wants people to know where he stands on everything.
On the brighter side; this post has generated the most activity of any I’ve seen in a long time. That’s a good sign. A lot of people interested in what’s going on. Not just here either.
I wondered the same Airean, but she is (apparently) with the NewsBud team whatever that means.
And another thing, Mr. Corbett – you said it took days to make this video. But it doesnt sound like you ever picked up the phone to call her and asked her to explain herself or if she couldnโt, at least get some personal insight on her state. You have had plenty of facetime type contact in the past. Or you might have checked with someone who does know her personally. I trust and admire you, but you reverted to absolute type sifting thru events, laying them out and inserting rational comment and conclusions, but where is action in the real world? Quitting twitter? When all we can do sometimes with our human scale tool kit is act with conscience, it isnโt enough to be blameless and step around the mud. Where is action? Obviously her scenario was set off by information from someone she trusted and she was encouraged in her direction. She seems to have many strong-willed opinionated alpha tendencies and seems quite fierce actually, all of which makes her vulnerable to criticisms, but it isnโt logical not to realize this is extremely odd self-destructive behavior.
this a molly coddle Airean. There are some basic rules any child can follow, she’s broken them all, though quite an adult. James’ approach is perfectly appropriate.
Mollycoddle? To personally speak to a former colleague when things are so obviously uncharacteristic and puzzling prior to a public handwashing? Is there a new twist on this archaic spinsterish term perhaps?
as said, some basic rules. That’s the issue. Dancing around it does you no credit. “Obviously her scenario was set off by . . .” blah blah blah. Zero intent to fact check, full intent to misrepresent and defame.
She is acting uncharacteristically. Her recent fact checking notions – or lack of -are the least of it This started with her claim that she was told something personally about these two women by someone she named and apparently trusted, who then denied at least one of her claims – whether people had left a board involuntarily. That isnt the only thing Sibel has claimed this person told her. No one seems to have personally spoken with her. Something is wrong. She has either had a breakdown or she has been had. Does anyone interact in the real world with each other? Why did she make several untrue claims about information a named person had shared with her when it could easily have been denied? That is uncharacteristic and what is the reason? Are people washing their hands because she is off the rails or is it because she was outright lying? There is a mystery here and no one is addressing what it is exactly she claims she was told and has the person denied all of it and where does that leave her claims. Rewind all this fallout and go back to those initial weird claims.
Airean,
You can follow your own advice. Don’t blame James or others. You call her.
Airean. Your comments are truly the brightest of the lot! Your points are an examination of all that has gone wrong in American society since the war. Real people have professional and secular personas . The two can’t be feasibly intertwined. You can have empathy and still be a professionally cold bastard and as you say “wash your hands of the whole affair”.
Sybel is a fallible human being, capable of all that defines us. She is not the first to professionally fail publicly and I feel for her. What do you think her husband must be dealing with ? Or her child? All the actions being taken by others seem to be of self interest protections and distancing professionally from the scene of the crime, or self- immulation? Its a shame no one called and are so callus as to say
” you call her” what’s up with that Homey. Not a very Christian attitude , to not care for a colleague any less than a stranger. A bit Cold hearted. Loathe to care, is more like it, however inconvenient she is an authentic highly emotional person in personal and professional crisis now. You could have called James or even a tweet might have helped. In many ways It is also good that you didn’t. It was your call and you played it safe.
Something is going on for sure and empathy is not part of the conversation . What a misguided waste of time for the careingless professionals and laymen. However, That woman has been through a lot in her lifetime. Real or a construction, extortion, vanity, ego, wrath or targeting, the wheels are coming off fast and I for one do feel sorry for her and her family for what’s to come.
generalbottlewasher,
Hi guy!
Read my comment to Airean further down this thread.
No one knows about previous personal conversations which Edmonds and Corbett have had. It is none of our business.
But I will wager this (and win the bet)…
Sometimes (when she is on an emotionally charged, fixated bent) dealing with Sibel in a rational, logical, civil conversation is like pounding one’s head against a brick wall.
You ain’t gonna win the conversation with logic.
This is not a “sudden shift” into irrational behavior. It has been creeping up, slowly revealing itself out in the open.
Remember, I have been reading the comment board and hearing stories from members talking about Sibel for many months. There are many folks who have anecdotes.
Like many others here I have followed Sibel for many years. Maybe not the best interviewer and her slow rants can be rough to listen to. But always sincere and interesting and put together a very interesting and professional crew on Newsbud.
So what the hell happened to this woman? Seems like an ego thing from an alphawoman.. but I’m not sure.
I canceled my Newsbud subscription after her ‘hit piece’.
Thank you James for this, somewhat heroic, overview of the Sibel Edmonds/Newsbud spat. I really do appreciate your having taken all that time to laying out the facts that you did.
There are many blessings to be had from this dark cloud, not least of which is shedding light on how this endemic hatred we are living with in these times works, in a very concrete context.
I do believe there are actors working to divide people and that she fell victim to such a situation. But, furthermore, that we all have to be on our guard to avoid the mistakes made by others, and boy has she fallen down. Rather like Greenwald, her news organization has been diverted and started to issue propaganda for the other side. I am referring to James Rosen apologising for the Russiagate nonsense and Micah Lee attacking Wikileaks. They may still do good work, but there are people weakening the focus.
Speculating, just that, as to why she went off the rails, the thought comes that she has some roots in Turkey, and then that either she has fallen in with the Erdogan government line that wants regime change in Syria, or that she still has family there, and someone got to her.
what this does is document sybel’s change in behavior. to me, having observed her for a number of years, this is not normal. for anyone that understands these things, it would appear the fall out of a psychotic break formerly known as a nervous break down. chronic stress is one of the most common factors for the mind to reject reality. sybel will suffer from this event which is unfortunate as she and her team have done great work. this kind of behavior change can also be instigated by various devices at distance. remember the guy who shot up the navy armory a few years ago? when i see this kind of change in a person that has shown the integrity that sybel has over the years i look for the forces of divide and conquer to have a roll. who better to attack w/ this tech. impossible to prove, of course, but needs to be considered. wouldn’t the kakistocracy just love for the truth tellers to tear themselves apart.
Yeah, so I am not the only one who thinks this. That is disturbing.
I think MSF has also complained about this…infiltration… when they complain, it seems their facilities get targeted for ‘terrorist’ bombing. Otherwise, most NGOs are intel fronts or infilitrated, from the earliest days of the State Dept’s.. before the CIA et al… add in all the foundations and the trap is well set… as this video well demonstrated, everyone out front gets targeted sooner or later…keeping ‘clean’ gets hard to do when ‘they’ know how best to push your buttons…
Well done James. Its always difficult and humiliating to back-track publicly. As a long time recovering psychopath and would be author, I see Sybil showing her true colours. Psychopaths can be very charming and convincing at first. Your article is an excellent guide for your followers. We can all grow and learn from it. Thank you.
Our society creates psychopaths by encouraging mothers to abandon their babies in creches, or with nannies, and preventing individual development in schools. Anthony Sutton in “How the Order Controls Education” points out that fascists and new world order people have long promoted group behaviour which they can control (as taught by schools) and discourage individual development – on which the US constitution is based. As he says education is not child centered but state centered. Humane attributes like empathy, understanding, negotiation, compassion – all need to be practised through conversation and play – which are prevented in schools.
James, I have to let you know that I’m on the short list of Iranian people from California who “clandestinely” follow your work. A belated “Happy Nowruz” to you. Also, it causes me great heartache to know that your supply of bubblegum has been depleted.
On a serious note, I can only guess as to the reasons for Sibel Edmond’s “meltdown” and spiteful rhetoric, which brings me to this point.
We live in a time as never before. For those of us that follow world and human events we are daily/repeatedly confronted with mass suffering and cataclysmic events that have either happened, are occurring or will come to fruition. Also, we are aware that every facet of our lives is either controlled or manipulated by the psychopaths that we loathe and seek/wish to depose.
9/11 was my wakeup call.
I am a US Army veteran and retired police officer from the San Francisco Police Department. Many, many of my friends from either military or law enforcement also believe 9/11 was a manufactured false flag event in order to justify related subsequent events.
But how can moral individuals maintain psychological health in these times knowing what we now know ? Then there is the feeling of helplessness or inability to affect meaningful change short of REAL revolution.
Maybe the ceaseless battering and weight of these daunting issues finally caused a “breakdown” for Sibel. I can only hope that she recovers with accountability, grace, and finally some type of redemption through humility.
Respectfully,
Iraj R. Mahvi
So, I finally had to log in to write a comment. Thank you James, for making that video. I’m not on twitter and I needed this video. Otherwise I would not have not bought this baloney. I remained a bit sceptical but to good-hearted believing.
Basically the only real valid criticism on Bartlett comes via this comment from Barbara McKenzie which you linked – thanks again.
What puzzles me most is not Sibel running Amok. Granted. But apparently her entire (?) associates are accompanying her on that. Not only Spiro, which I would have granted too but others as well. That’s really strange and sadly cult-like.
This could become the demise of newsbud, and with it a negative impact on the reputations of Peter Lee, William Engdahl and many others.
Sad. Very sad. The most impactful alternative beef I’ve seen so far. I’m also very weary of James Berwick after the John’s Galt thing and Molyneux has been accused of cultism by several ex-FDR-members too. Can’t it work without going over your head?
What I want to add. Couple of people have already said that for them it was difficult to listen to Sibels rambling. I’m one of them.
Maybe that kept me a little bit reserved. But what I remember now, what I on some time thought. She is more or less the only source for Gladio B? (I am listening to the Ochelli link somebody posted, Pierce Redmond was saying something along those lines there too.)
And newsbud are now the guys pushing the narrative of Gladio C (with Filip Kovacevic at the forefront).
This aside, here hate for the Gulen movement was always a bit peculiar.
Man, wished this would have come to light earlier (in a broader fashion) and we could have a clearer picture of all of this. That said, good that it’s coming out now and of course sad that the situation is like it is.
I’d say, you have to expect that such big organisations have nefarious people in them and would take it for granted. “Infiltrators” are everywhere and especially at the top. The usual doctor (or embassy staff or foundation worker or whatever) will be a decent/normal guy but then you will have the black sheep too (and not one but a considerably amount of them).
Also I try to see this from the criminal site. Where would you make sure to infiltrate first if you ran a child molesting gang for example? Places where children will run too of course. Orphanages, help organisations, police etc.
You’ll always have to be cautious. Sadly…
Thanks for doing this James, it’s helped me to decide what to do with my newsbud subscription, I was waiting to see what evidence she came up with and I watched the video once and I was going to watch it again to see if I missed something but it seems I didn’t and that last tweet was fairly despicable, I was shocked when I saw it. I’ve just been checking twitter as a guest to see the latest ramblings. I got off it a while ago and haven’t missed it.
I personally think that she made a reckless accusation and rather than apologise and move on she started digging herself a hole which now looks like it will take out the whole organisation.
Dam it.
I have read Sibelโs book โClassified Womanโ and from that it is clear that she is a very strong willed determined woman who will pursue her goal no mater what gets in her way. We would not have Classified Woman without that and I am grateful and all the wiser for that. Her goal at that time was to get the truth out and that work still stands today.
I admit that I have not seen newsbudโs โSyria Under Seigeโ but did view your fact check report and was taken aback by the vitriol in her attack on Beeley/Bartlett, particularly when the evidence surfaced that her accusations didnโt seem to have any firm ground to stand on. At about 1:16:00 in your report you uncovered a Syria Under Seige post by Sibel where she really went out with โdaggers drawnโ.
Really!
As I mentioned Sibel is clearly a very strong willed determined woman, and, as you say, what was going through her head?
Did a CIA Targeted Individual Psych Op get to her or something?
I dunno, but her work in the past still stands as being worthwhile for Truth Junkies.
Hmmmm, I still havenโt grown up yet so when someone, Google, You Tube, etc. tries to hide something from me so of course Iโm interested and that now includes your Vanessa Beeley Interview 1342 even though I think I have a fairly good idea about what the White Helmets are really up to.
Odd too that I often considered joining newsbud whenever I visited their site but it never felt right so I didnโt do that. The snippets that you presented clearly demonstrate the deception in their professional production. End result is that Iโve come to prefer books or talking heads. Honest mistakes are ok but Iโve had enough of the carefully orchestrated deception that has kept me ignorant of the most important things going on on this planet for most of my life.
Thanks James for staying up till 1:30 am to get this out, Truth Junkies need to be aware of this stuff. But donโt feel bad about promoting her work in the past, that still stands. But weโve got to view her work/newsbud through this lens now.
Yeah, seriously. This has to be some sort of brainwashing. It is just not the way she normally acts and works. There is something really wrong here.
From what is emerging, it is the norm apparently. But you can only restrain your true self for so long before it becomes obvious. I followed her career even less that you, but once this broke out a couple of links to older sources seem to indicate that this is just a grander version of similar behaviors. Not everything is a conspiracy. We humans can screw ourselves up far better than any government entity could ever hope. Who can’t look at their life and find out they are they’re worst enemy? Mine’ sneaky.
I totally agree. I hadn’t caught up with Sibelgate until today when I watched this video, and I am open-mouthed, at times wondering if it’s an elaborate April 1 hoax.
More seriously, I’ve also been wondering about some kind of CIA Targeted Individual Psych Op situation, maybe threatening her family. After all, she did work for the spooks, and they probably have a lot of info on her.
Or am I just trying to rationalise her behaviour in my mind?
It’s sad.
I don’t think Sibel has been some kind of shill all along. I don’t think we need to revise every single thing she’s ever said in the light of this.
David Shayler is another secret services whistleblower who now says some very strange things – as well as some very intelligent things. I haven’t seen him going on the attack in this way, but my point is that having a background like that can mess with your head, and I think these organisations have a very long arm.
I’m glad that James has made this excellent analysis, and I hope we can all move on from here.
Seems relevant:
https://youtu.be/zzeVFxIJV3k?t=1m45s
Rough way to go out.
It’s just a flesh wound!
== Off Topic ==
Sorry this is off topic. I’m behind and catching up on the Corbett Report. In doing so, going through my emailed TCR Updates I found a bad link:
https://www.corbettreport.com/truth-at-last-the-assassination-of-martin-luther-king/
Was this a story, article, interview, video?
If it has been removed or been moved it might deserve a note or redirect. If I’m a rare exception don’t bother. Either way I’d like to know if I can or can’t find this piece.
Thanks in advance.
Also, for anyone who may or may not have noticed my absence I’ve started development on my own independent animation series, “Trutherism 101”. When I get this open source project into a presentable form I’ll go on an announcement campaign, including a post here on TCR. I expect little feedback at that point. Then I’ll start animating the series and after I’ve got a handful I’ll publish them. After that I expect I might actually get fans, support, and hopefully a community to help with stuff. Stay ‘tooned.
Now if only I could ween myself off this YouTube addiction. (I’m trying to download everything before they censor it all.)
Peace out,
~ Jason
Jason,
You bring up a mystery which I am patiently waiting for.
See Corbett’s comment below CorbettReport member cush350.
https://www.corbettreport.com/cambridge-analytica-the-backstory/#comment-48716
I used to have that one downloaded, but now I can’t find it in my folder. Those dadgum Ruskis!
Thanks for the update. I thought it was me.
Strange, I hadn’t really “checked out” that long ago, but I miss this place and you folks, if only by avatar names.
He said “titter”. I say “tittest”.
Is the CIA putting chemicals in Sibel’s water supply? It seems she has lost the plot. Very sad
I have not followed Sibel as long as many of you, but I have never seen her like this before. Have any of you seen her be this irrational before? The only things in the past that have called her into question for me was 1) the way she ignored the issue of Erdogan’s plane not being shot down by f16’s even though it should have been. I think the coup was just an play to consolidate power under Erdogan 2) the Flynn thing. That whole Mueller vs Flynn thing just looked like a bullshit smoke and mirror distraction show to me 3) the comment section on her site. For a while after newsbud started, not BFP, but newsbud… the comment section was full of comments like “what another great video from newsbud or sibel or blah blah blah”… it always seemed like someone was being paid to write those comments.
I have never seen her do this sort of bullshit before though. I seriously think she’s been brainwashed to self destruct and discredit all her work. That’s the only way I can make any sense of her behavior because it is so out of character for her from what I have seen. What do all of you think?
Corbett, will you please comment on this brainwashing idea? WTF is going on? I am not asking for you to get into a war with her, but, have you ever noticed anything odd?
It makes absolutely no sense for her to do this. I mean, she isn’t convincing anyone and she just shit her past decade and a half of effort down the drain. I know it may sound silly, but… the only way any of this makes sense is if she was somehow brainwashed into self destructing. Even if she was just an attention whore there is no way she would discredit herself with this poorly made attack on someone. She would have at least done a good job. This… this just makes no sense outside of some sort of brainwashing context. If something is being done to her I very much hope it is soon revealed.
Are Bas Spliet and Voice of Arabi on here? If either of you read this please answer these questions.
Bas, what was your experience with newsbud and Sibel?
Voice of Arabi, why did you never post again on newsbud?
Nevermind Bas, I saw your post now. More elaboration may be interesting though.
And James, for god’s sake, please cover the Parkland shooting.
You can actually find footage of Hogg saying that he heard about shooting and decided to ride his bike to school while the shooting was happening. I mean, really? I am supposed to believe that? He’d only do that if he knew he wasn’t going to be shot.
None of the people I respect have covered this event, and the narrative does seem to be falling apart. Please, please please cover it.
Here is a video NB put up two hours ago. Nothing else to clarify the other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDBb7TFYN1w
Oh yeah, she is just continuing. comments disable. Go figure.
It’s a hit piece on Vanessa’s write up on the doctors working with the terrorists. Which seems to have been interpreted as criticizing them for treating them. Maybe that’s just me.
Thanks for the update.
i used to donate to msf, not now. Mainly because while they are money raising machine for conflict zones and fairly eloquent about troubles and trauma on the ground, they are silent about causes, including when the conflict is transparently manufactured by outside interference. I mean not one word. Seems characteristic of a bankster 5th column. Secondly because donations to them are tax deductible (in Australia). Another characteristic here.
EXCELLENT, James!
Bye – Bye: FB, Twitter, Sebel…..
Please keep up the great work you are doing, James.
James, I have 2 ideas as what Sibel is up to with this: either she is being threatened by the Secret Elite or she is terminally Russophobic and has Putin Derangement Syndrome. You went along with her line but then at some point you changed a bit and I haven’t seen anything significantly Russophobic or evidence of Putin Derangement Syndrome lately. It could be both explanations but what I will say is that the Secret Elite is in a state of sheer panic because they have lost their ability to have their Unipolar World Order/World Government. They have this False Flag flop in Salsbury so now any act of diplomacy is now a Criminal Act. I can tell you what what I learned about Vladimir Putin during on my trip to Russia in June 2016. I met a Gyn Doc who grew up in the same set of flats as Putin. He operated on a close friend of Putin’s after which Putin called him to check on his friend’s condition. He told me what Putin’s reputation was when they were kids on the playground. He was known as the one who protected kids who were being bullied by the playground bullies and that his MO is to “strike first and strike hard”. Things are getting to the point where if things continue to go downhill that could happen. The Pentagon’s “missile defense” DOES NOT WORK. Just ask Theodore Postol of MIT. Russia’s S-400 DOES WORK and the S-500 coming online works even better. They have more than 3 times the area as the Empire to put defenses, ICBMs and their new HYPERSONIC missiles (the Empire doesn’t have any of those). We are one NUCLEAR FALSE FLAG away from WWIII and the end of life on this Planet.
THANKYOU SIR! …I was planning on going thru this crazy report and all it’s unclear accusations again because it was so fishy…..I was almost astounded at this Newsbud piece asI could not believe Sibel & Spiro had resorted to “Playing the man & not the ball” …& which obviously only reflects on them…..I like others “queried” things & was sort of told due to “my attitude” “this site is obviously not for you … so take your financial support elsewhere”…I suspect some were just struck off their supporters list against their wishes… THEN NB introduced “Moderation” which is to me v BAD & akin to Censorship….I have supported Sibel & NB a long time ..is she just having some kind of crisis herself?…it just doesn’t add up…something is awry there …we need to see ..however there are some fabulous people writing GREAT stuff there for “the cause” & I will likely still follow them… THANKS AGAIN JAMES…a massive amount of work… & FABULOUS WORK WELL DONE! Bravo!
the downward spiral of menopause demands compassion, not more condemnation
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Level 8: Become obsessive about imperfection and the wrongdoing of others, although they may fall into contradictory actions, hypocritically doing the opposite of what they preach.
Level 9: Become condemnatory toward others, punitive and cruel to rid themselves of wrongdoers. Severe depressions, nervous breakdowns, and suicide attempts are likely. Generally corresponds to the Obsessive-Compulsive and Depressive personality disorders.
I’m confused, I’m deeply saddened, I’m distraught, I sorely want to believe that there’s some kind of rational explanation for all of this… there has to be one – right?
Sibel, why?
If these people arenโt even connected sufficiently in the real world to speak to each other or know the least bit about the lives of those whom we have been many times encouraged to view as some sort of their like-minded colleague, it just makes it more ridiculous that we think we know anything about them or their behaviors, much less spend time listening to them rather than conversing with our actual neighbors and colleagues in real life. To catalog a colleagueโs sudden irrational appalling uncharacteristic behavior without contacting that person at least for research questions, if nothing actually humanly compassionate, and the action then taken is only twitter/not twitter, is nearly as curious as any of the rest
Airean,
You don’t know whether or not contact was made previously.
You are unaware of any previous conversations unless you are hacking into emails or phone calls.
But you can follow your own advice, like I mentioned above on this thread. You call her.
(Personally, my bet is that there had been plenty of previous conversations, especially around September 2017. But, it is none of my business what people discuss between themselves in personal conversations. Personal conversations between two people are just that…no one’s business.)
Iโm not the one who recommended her research repeatedly and did discussions and interviews etc etc. If I had known her well enough to do all that, I would have contacted her personally and spoken with her. And whatever my conclusion, it would have included acknowledgement of more of a relationship than just the cataloging and dismissal of recent inexplicable twittering anomalies would suggest. Unmentioned personal contact or not, someone late to the scene here may not realize how collegial a relationship was previously conveyed.
Okay. Got what you are saying. Yet, no one has the authority to dictate rules of ethical conduct, moral codes, ‘acceptable behaviors’, etc. on another person.
I will wager that Corbett and Edmonds have had many behind-the-scenes discussions months prior to this Bartlett and Beeley incident.
And I will probably easily win a wager that, previous to the Bartlett and Beeley scenario, Sibel has had some behavioral drama-type stubborn bents which were difficult to deal with in a rational, civil conversation.
Akin to a roaring menopausal, irrational, emotionally disturbing commotion and odd line of ‘thought’…sometimes there is no talking sense to someone.
Though I’m not religious, the bible has a lot of good advice in it. Ye shall know them by their deeds comes to mind. How about explaining why, instead of stopping her insane attack, having her explain why she felt the need to double down on stupid by releasing another video where she obviously purposefully improperly defined a situation. Ask here why she felt that was a good idea when you give her a call. After all, you ARE in the area. YOU are the one so concerned about her. She’s a big girl and can speak for herself. But you go ahead and excuse her actions. JimBob from fluorida who thinks integrity never needs to make an excuse. Just saying.
Homey that does make a little more since. Im thinking
‘ Stepford Wifes’ scenario Airean. Sybel lives in the weirdest place in the country. I did hear her frustrated rant about the Wifes and neighbors of that area of Oregon. I know of Pagosa Springs Colorado and the ‘Stepford Wifes ‘there and I found it impossible to relate on any level . Lets move on, this trainwreak is done. Next ; have you read Elana Freelands newest books? Eastlund, Bernard J. Patent# 4,686,605. Find out what it is and can do and this whole twadle affair will become meaningless. Not to say that one life is the most important thing on earth but it is . This apparatus is the way to end 2-3 billion lives in a New York minute and not destroy the infrastructure in doing so. James can probably attest to the people who could and will if given the opportunity. So move on people we’re burning daylight.
I live in Florida. Wiping out New Yorkers sort of appeals to me at times. They really are annoying to us. Everything is going on at this time. Besides, what do you expect us to do against such a thing? I’ve got an attitude, but that might not be enough. JimBob from fluorida solves this problem by staying the hell away from New York.
Wingsuitfreak. You have been on a roll, and in answer to your question which is the million dollar question.
“Besides, what do you expect us to do against such a thing?”
1. Inquirer, yes, as our site host does so brilliantly. ask some basic questions. Who,What,Where,When, and why.
2.Whats the agenda and who is paying for this WMD. Who will be at the controls?
3. Will the operators stand down when they are told to aim it at the homeland?
4.Will 100 tons of nano size aluminum make the harvest collapse this year or next? Will we have a harvest at
78% sunlight due to solar radiation managment that acts as a force multiplier in the ionisphere?
Good question Wingsuit . I think when JimBob wakes up to what’s really about to happen something will get
done . How do you wake up 200 million JimBobs is the real question .To start the ball rolling we first have to clear up some more important business . Sibell and the mayhem that she has brought must be dealt with.
“I went down to the sailing pond to gather up some sun. Must have been a hundred schoolgirls sobbing into handkerchiefs as one. I don’t believe they knew I was a schoolboy!”
Fear is a pretty powerful tool. Media is always telling me to be afraid of something that’s happening halfway around the world. But since I’m not afraid of the very real things in my immediate world, why should I break out in a sweat about it? Though the thought of 200 million JimBobs waking up prompted this scary voice in my head:
Ain’t no one ring can handle that much redneck!
It’s a horrifying, yet hauntingly beautiful, thought. JimBob who knows just how crazy rednecks can be.
“Sudden” and “uncharacteristic”.. possibly. Here’s an earlier warning sign of what was possibly already going on inside, more than a year ago:
https://porkinspolicyreview.com/2017/10/25/the-ochelli-effect-sibel-without-sally-field-plus-africom/
Congrats on your Twitter-Anonymous confession!
And the deletion of your Twitter account!
I must confess I have no desire to leave Twitter James.
That’s because I never had a Twitter account. ๐
BTW, as good as your report was, it would have been
even better had you done an abbreviated “Syria Under Siege – A Conspiracy Theory” version, oh say… 5 minutes long? ๐
An exhaustive handwashing to be sure, but many things left out including a balancing acknowledgement of a body of valid work, or at least apparently valid enough to have been strongly and repeatedly recommended – all of which is now vulnerable to criticism not only because of Sibelโs sudden bizarre and apalling mispelled twittering but also because of the unfortunate misapplication of the cataloging thoroughness for which Mr. Corbett is known and admired – and the real world aloofness which is also apparent, perhaps necessarily. While saying โI research, I do videos and I chew bubblegumโ is extremely modest coming from a man with such valuable output, it also seems disengaged when confronted with the bizarre behavior mystery of a seemingly close and recommended colleague. That relationship and Sibelโs body of recommended work was missing in the lengthy breakdown timeline and the โactionโ taken of twitter/not twitter .
He said he was going to review all of his past work with her. That pretty much negates your premise.
Thank you for clarifying things, James.
Always the consummate professional, getting to the core of each issue. Strange, I was on NB’s website just 3 days ago, and you were listed as a “Contributing Partner”. I see today that has been deleted.
but there’s a new and very significant contributor whose probably the main driver if SE has been “had” ; Col. Tim Ferner. Sibel really salivates over this military guy ; he’s a “hero” on her keyboard. Plus he’s leading the charge on her site against Beeley and Bartlett (re the Ron Paul site). At a guess he’s a carefully chosen infiltrator (lots of service experience in the Middle East) who pushed all her worst bias buttons.
Whoooaa this is interesting! Could be it thanks..however, Spiro also?…Doesn’t ad up.
Yes Mark it seems you might be right on the case here—Ferner is here on newsbud aiming for Ron Paul of all people …..NB Article Headline “Renowned Whistleblower Lt. Colonel Tim Ferner (Ret) Issues a Call to Bring Back โHuman Decencyโ & โEthical Journalismโ to Ron Paul Institute”…THIS to me is laughable, ….despite it actually being serious! One person in this game that does have credibility in my eyes is Ron Paul. So we need go figure?..
James, I am a supporter of your work. I have watched this whole video and my head hurts. I am left asking, WHY did you feel a need to get involved in their spat? I know you had previous dealings with Sibel & Newsbud. But getting into this mudslinging (even the high quality version that you provide) is a waste of your talent and will only mire you further in this mindless drivell. Bad people will slip through your forcefield of thorough research and you have to be able to just shake it off and move forward. Let Eva & her colleagues fight their own battles. They are just as capable. Your talents are needed elsewhere. Glad you have quit Twitter…it’s for twits. Keep up the excellent work. We need you…we need you to stay focused. Thanks James.
No it’s very good James has done it….would not have nearly been so well investigated & communicated otherwise. Cheers James!
I think it’s very important to keep in mind that this is coming from Sibel AND Spiro (plus possibly others?), not just Sibel. Surely this should bring in to question the assumed ‘break-down’ scenario?
Thumbs up for a wise allocation of precious time. This could not be ignored. Sibel exposed, James cleared!
You have to clean the mud out of your eyes before you can see those changes. One of those changes that I would like to see are more spines that don’t take none, as in don’t start none, won’t be none attitude of my native (and beloved) redneck culture. JimBob from fluorida who notes that the redneck was the only culture Malcolm X respected outside of Islam. Yea baby!
James,
Maybe Sibel is the victim of a โDeep Stateโ mind control attack. Maybe you are in their crosshairs, too. Quick, James, PLEASE put on your tin foil hat. We can’t have you going batsh*t crazy too.
Apology accepted.
Maybe, itโs all a build up to an April Fools prank?
Congratulations on deleting your Twitter account. I donโt do it. I donโt even have a smart phone, only an old flip phone.
Cush, before any race gets started, the players all have to jockey for position. Discord being sowed in our ranks across so many sectors of our society at once is just that; jockeying for position. James just shined a pretty big flashlight into the fog of conflict. All conflicts are purposely confusing, this one is no different. We keep saying that truth has power, but that’s only because we fear it so much. But there are many players on this field. Sibel is but one big thing happening right now. Do you really believe in coincidence at this level? James has chosen the side of reason and ethics. A good dose of compassion as well. I wouldn’t have been so reserved had I gotten involved. I won’t say I stand firmly in that camp, but I do like to stay in the general vicinity. It’s a pretty good neighborhood. Always exciting and not nearly as much blood as people make out. Change doesn’t have to be violent. It’s a choice. In fact, the less violence there is in any choice, the greater the change for good. I think the true nature of this choice isn’t alt-right/crazy left, or any of the thousands of factions we have going on at the same time. It’s a choice between rational thought and irrational thought. Rational thought hands out some pretty big flashlights when they go out into the fog. JimBob from fluorida who started out with a wake and bake cuz he dang well fell like it.
more groovin arab music. now! got my crazy easter dance on!!!!!
James, please don’t entertain one iota of guilt for your previous association with this person. As evidenced by the comments here, your subscribers understand and sympathise. In the search for truth, and with the best will and intentions in the world, at some stage we’ve all been taken in by someone else’s opinions only to be let down by them later. It’s an occupational hazard. This just shows your humanity and how vigilant we all need to be. Not that it needed it, but this video once again demonstrates your integrity and true journalistic credentials in cutting through all such BS. You are one of the very few voices of reason out there in this fucked up world. Please stay focussed on what you do so well (and don’t forget to pick up that guitar once in a while!).
No need to apologize James – it was Newbud that forces you to make this video for our benefit. And I see no need to apologize for introducing us to Sibel – she has done good work in the past (such as Gladio work) – and now you have helped us to see that she has jumped the shark.
Let us know if you need a special bubble gum donation. Thanks for all you do and doing a great job clearing up this mess. Looking forward to your future work.
WOW! Lots of comments on this one James, perhaps a record?
If it is then what does that say about your audience if anything? Interesting for sure and a brief skimming of the comments shows a lot of divisive us-against-them sort of mindset which is an unfortunate side effect of being a human being brought up in our culture today and indeed most cultures.
The tendency toward tribalism run deep through our species and it is constantly being used to stir up and manipulate the masses as you have so aptly pointed out in some of your work on Edward Bernays and other manner of control.
Those who try to stifle alternative views must be in heaven to see another riff among some influential names in the alt news community.
For me this goes to a point that you make time and time again which I really appreciate, THINK FOR YOURSELF.
I have NEVER met another human being with whom I agreed 100% on everything, that includes my parents, spouse, children, you name it, BUT that does not mean that they cannot say and do things that I completely agree with.
After all, even a blind Squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.
I have financially supported NewsBud in the past during their funding drives when they were trying to start up, I had a subscription for a while but let it lapse even though I have enjoyed their work.
I bought and read “Classified Woman”, still think it is a great book and I recommend it to anyone.
When you read it you will understand that this is ONE STUBBORN AND DETERMINED WOMAN, that much is obvious and when some people with certain character traits get “pissed off” watch out!
I happen to suffer from the same idiocy myself from time to time.
You handled this beautifully Mr. Corbett and every subscriber agrees. I know that you and Sibel go back a ways so it was probably difficult for you to make this.
Regarding the hilarious remarks about the credibility of the Corbett Report, I always felt that it was YOUR association with THEM that gave THEM credibility, NOT the other way around.
In fact I have always noted it was almost palpable during the round tables and other work you did with Boiling Frog and Sibell. It always seemed to me that you were regarded as having the highest journalistic integrity out there and kind of held out as indicating the legitimacy of their work.
Well, the struggle for genuine news continues as always and this may help us all to understand that we can not turn over our critical thinking to someone we have decided represents our views, there is enough of that “fair and balanced” bullshit already.
SIBEL: Can’t we all just get along?
James Corbett, Alex Jones, Sibel Edmonds, Ry Dawson, Greg Hunter, David Ike, The Truth Factory, Lionel Nation, Bright Insight, We Are Change, Max Igan AND Ken O’Keefe. ALL worth listening to along with many others.
Listen to people who you think have views opposed to your own and consider the source always.
Again, Great Work James, thank you.
Regarding the credibility thing, what you mentioned about those talks was very evident. I think people at newsbud had some plans for consolidation with other journalists, but that didn’t work out that well.
Wingsuitfreak/homeremedywhomever. Nowhere have I excused Sibelโs behavior. If you are able to think beyond your obviously computer-activity ingrained mindset of wagering and winning and gambling this or that notion, you might notice the only people excusing her behavior are the utter morons chalking it up to menopause and hormones.
Actually you have. You are scolding James (and everyone else who agrees) for not considering her past work. Her past work is suspect now. I am not saying she is in any of those menopause, hormones, mole, MKUltra camps. I think this is her personal belief system (her own political beliefs) combined with a personality that needs to be idolized. That last bit was a bit over-the-top, but not that much. Her association with James required a response on his part. She might be going through a lot of stuff right now, but she’s the one that made the choices which led her to it. He merely told the truth as he saw it. Why does that bother you? Especially since she has continued her campaign with yet another hit piece on Vanessa just yesterday. I personally think she’s doubling down on stupid, but I don’t make any claims of saying I’m right. I do state that whenever a crazy ax swinging psychopath comes at me, I’m inclined to shoot first and offer therapy later. But that’s just me. What else can you expect out of a redneck? JimBob the redneck philosopher. Prez of his own damn self and no one else.
There ain’t nothing wrong with “shoot fist, everything else later” approach, pardner. As long as you have your fancy hat on and a toothpick or some straw neatly stuck in your teeth.
Straight shooters, hip shooters… all good folk in my book. All of this makes me want to wear a fancy hat so that I may tip it to people all day long.
You be William Munney? ๐
I can only wish!
Me too. I’m more like Festus from Gunsmoke though.
Great work, people usually (incorrectly) associate satire and especially sarcasm with lack of wit, but in this case, with such a dry subject, without it you’d have people heaving before the 30 minutes mark. And yes, I did watch/listen all of it, if you lost sleep over this sordid affair, it only stands to reason I did so too last night, further spreading thin those 5-6 hours of sleep I manage to squeeze into my schedule.
The reading of internet speak was particularly well done. This type of thing usually wakes up the little drama queen lurking in all of us, but with some objective examination she can bite the dust.
James did not want to venture into guessing what may have gone wrong with Sibel, but I will. Based on my experience as an observer and from a non professional perspective, I think Sibel may have started developing a mental illness or is going through a quickly spreading personality transmutation, probably induced by stressful events or (natural) degradation of brain cells. Depending on how their business at newsbud is progressing, she may have derailed due to some outstanding debts or obligations she finds difficult or impossible to meet. I’ve seen people in such conditions going through a severe personality change.
Either way, I hope she finds solace and makes amends for her transgressions.
What I find the worst to come out of this, is the fact (?) many people will completely disregard Sibel’s previous work, as if it were done by a madman. It is true that everything should be put under (further) scrutiny, but it’s usually much easier to just completely junk (yes, I’ve gone there) everything and opt for a closing statement on the lines of “oh, she’s a completely insane conspiracy kook.”
The second worst thing is probable splintering in the “truther” community which will most probably arise from this affair.
I have never been more sorry about being right about something in my entire life. Had I not been right, I would have opened a twatter account back then and now I could have joyfully deleted it. But alas. I do hope there is big red delete button, with a confirmation or even double confirmation. Oh yes, that hits the spot.
Would you James, please, once and for all, in no uncertain terms, clarify are you or are you not on facebook???
I’ll double down on my assessment, Sibel is definitively off the rails.
https://www.newsbud.com/2018/03/21/newsbud-exclusive-report-syria-under-siege-guarding-against-wolves-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-28603
Orenda, I have sent him an inquiry e-mail. I have received nearly 100 e-mails from our team members and community members asking the same thing. Some of them have written to him as well. So far we have hear nothing. He is usually very good in checking out his sourcesโ background. I have no idea what happened in this case. Also, he has always been anti-social media attacks/bickering, yet, a few weeks ago he openly started rewetting/liking some of B-Bโs vicious and ugly attacks against Newsbud. So very uncharacteristic for Corbett. I am fairly sure he didnโt have a clue on this duoโs background/history, and their nefarious online operations (As I said Corbett is not one of those 24 X 7 social media junkies). HOpe heโll watch the report, conduct his additional research and then issue public warning, retraction/disclaimer โฆ I donโt want to see his reputation destroyed.
Lets see if this baby survives the purge.
https://www.newsbud.com/2018/03/21/newsbud-exclusive-report-syria-under-siege-guarding-against-wolves-in-sheeps-clothing/#comment-28705
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Orenda Review says:
March 29, 2018 at 8:38 am
For the careful consideration of the Newsbud Community.
https://www.corbettreport.com/fact-checking-newsbuds-syria-under-siege-video/#comments
Well, hey there benny! j/k
I ain’t no benny, pardner.
That was why I had the j/k there. However, I do have mad respect for him since he didn’t hesitate once he saw what was going on there. It was a nice surprise for me.
Well, tribalism and blind belief in false prophets will do that to people. Way too many people will just look to follow someone.
True that. I can’t claim to be any better in that regard. In case anyone has missed it, I try to reassure everyone here that I can only be trusted because I don’t really care what anyone thinks of what I do/say/think. JimBob from fluorida who has learned (or just does it anydamnway) to just not tell anybody he’s all that good at the beginning so they can’t hit him with a stick later on.
Given his usual careful aloofness from muddy topics, the fact Mr. Corbett waded into this mess at all, let alone – for all the length of the exhaustive cataloguing – the central question was unaddressed, is perhaps the second most nagging inexplicability of this entire debacle.
Something you too should be considering. And looking at the mess he chose to look into, and didn’t he state that Sibel had contacted him earlier? But, you only attack his reasons. Looking at her deeds sort of answers your question in my book. Also, no one is saying to throw out all of her previous work. Everyone else seems to recognize the need to suspect it though. Whenever we encounter data which conflicts with our previous belief, we should use that data to see what happens. Standard standards in redneck academics. JimBob from fluorida who has the big print books so he can make sure he don’t miss nothing.
James,
As always, thank you for your in depth and careful analysis. As someone whoโs supported Newsbud and before that BFP, I find this particularly disappointing. I also find it disappointing that I didnโt catch on to the problems with the report and even expressed a degree of support for taking Eva Bartlett and Vanessa Beeley to task to a certain degree for what, based on the way the information was being presented, I viewed accounted for reckless practices on each womanโs part in engaging in potentially consequentially endangering rhetoric. Albeit, not without having expressed a degree of caution in passing judgement on the work previously done by Bartlett and particularly Beeley which Iโd found largely praiseworthy up until that point.
I hadnโt followed any of what was going on directly on Twitter, so it wasnโt until you took the painstaking effort of revealing the full context of the โconversationsโ that I realized Iโd allowed myself to be manipulated by not having seen each statement in its proper context (to the extent thatโs possible on Twitter).
Even though I havenโt spent much time on Twitter at all to begin with, watching you having to wade through the muck and machete through thorny overgrowth and general nastiness that Twitter in particular, but social media as a whole, seems to provide such fertile ground for, really brought home the conclusion for me how important it is to take care and to some extent simply avoid the kind of entanglement these mediums are designed to foster. Thatโs not to say thereโs no place for making constructive use of these environments, but never losing sight of the fact that the people who oversee much of the maintenance of these digital domains quite clearly have encouraged and cultivated the overgrowth and hazardous terrain with the overall end goal of exhausting people and making it as difficult to get in and out unscathed as possible on purpose.
Perhaps Sibel unwittingly fell victim to the bitterness and distraction that seems to have lead her off course, but that last nasty remark on Twitter directed at Vanessa Beeley that you closed with is proof enough that sheโs too far gone to warrant the personal harm which Iโll likely incur in whatever attempts I might make at this point in the comments section at Newsbud to warrant sticking around. I hope the best for them and I do believe that their motivations and desire to create positive change are sincere, but unfortunately at this point I think the best decision I can make is to withdraw my support and distance myself.
I admittedly feel a bit foolish that I didnโt see it for myself before this, but I recognize that humbling yourself in the face of revelation of your own mistakes is often one of the most valuable opportunities for personal growth. Ultimately it comes down to the information and sorting through it diligently in order to make intelligent decisions. Iโve learned that here, perhaps more than anywhere else. So for that, once again, James, you have my thanks, appreciation, and continued support (at least until the unlikely event of a misleading presentation and subsequent nasty remarks on Twitter anyway ๐ )
As always, much respect.
~Benny
BennyB, like you, I did not take the time to go through the Twitter history for proper context, even though we both should have. I suppose we should consider this a stark reminder to always vet all of the information that we take in.
“Perhaps Sibel unwittingly fell victim to the bitterness and distraction that seems to have lead her off course”
Given what we have seen and heard directl from Sibel’s mouth/fingers, I’m not sure that anyone can excuse her for her conduct, no matter how out of character it might seem.
Deep down, I still want to believe there is some way to rationalize her behavior; Sibel was an important figure in my life.
@ekawAediW,
My comment wasn’t intended to be interpreted as making any excuse for Sibel. Indeed, she’s responsible for her own behavior and I feel that this episode represents a type of conduct that I donโt want to support or associate myself with. Unfortunately, on that note the final message I attempted to post where I explained my rationale for cancelling my membership hasnโt been posted, while the message preceding it, where I more or less attested a measure of good faith in Sibelโs reputation based on my past experience of calling into question the conduct of other figures in the alt-media/whistle blower community having proved to have had merit (as I believe was the case in her harsh assessment of Glen Greenwald, the Intercept, and Snowden documents, as an example) still is.
Like you, Iโd say Sibel has played an important role informing my geopolitical world view and Iโm not going to try to take that away from her, but the level of toxicity and bitterness displayed in her comments on Twitter which James helped to aluminate for me in this presentation is something I canโt overlook, even as I second guess whether or not a sense of loyalty may have blinded me to the extent that some of her rhetoric in the Twitter exchange leaves me perplexed as it does disappointed. There may prove to be more merit to accusations. In fact, Iโm wouldnโt go as far as to say that there werenโt any good points raised. Even though itโs hard to discern how I feel overall at the moment I think there were. Still, maintaining a degree of professionalism is a critical component of maintaining credibility and whatever professionalism (even if it might have been lacking to begin with) that existed in the initial presentation at Newsbud seemed to have fallen by the wayside as a casualty of the โTwiiter warโ.
On that note, to paraphrase James, perhaps the silver lining in this situation is having made the observation that the nature of Twitter, even if it may be used constructively, lends itself all too easily to amplifying hostility and reinforcing tribalism. The way this functions certainly seems to be by design, but Iโll keep that can of worms on the shelf and save my voice as I donโt see much point in trying to finish my point with a refrain to preach to the choir.
Lastly, I did have the foresight to save what I intended to be my final post at Newsbud as a text file. If the last comment doesnโt eventually disappear I may have to ask upon one of the Corbett Report community members to post an extract from the afore mentioned text. Weโll see though.
Why not post the response here? It’s as good a place for it as any.
Nobody likes to be fooled. Even though human nature is often to lash out at the perpetrator, I hold firm to the fact that Sibel has done good work in the past. I believe there is a lot of truth that she was responsible of diseminating. Heck, even the majority of Noam Chomsky’s work is well done and factual, but as James pointed out, good reporting can be used as a sort of currency that can be spent on deception on important matters. My burning question is was Sibel playing us from the start, or did some kind of monumental shift happen to her? I’d be all the more disappointed if it turns out to be the former.
She wasn’t playing us right from the start.
She has delivered very important geo-political info.
She never did her 9/11 homework though.
And so from the very beginning until (probably) today, she still believes the 19 hijacker/Bin Laden fairy tale.
Personally, I have a lot of respect for anyone who can look at a situation, as you did, re-assess and move on instantly. I’m with ek2=485967 (if that is his real name) on posting it here. JimBob
Personally, Iโm not under the impression that sheโs been disingenuous about her intentions. It just seems more that her steadfastness when it comes to what accounts for standing by principal and holding people accountable for their actions seems to have a way of lending itself to a sort of bitterness that can in turn lead to a vindictive aggressiveness, where she seems to be willing to throw out the baby with the bathwater too easily. At times I addressed this in my comments first at BFP then Newsbud and I do feel that this was something she appreciated over the years. Hereโs her response to my initial comment on the video in question:
In reality, as mentioned, Iโm aware that her prior responses to certain figures who she crossed swords with in the past was at times disproportionate (but in some cases seemingly well deserved) and I think out of respect for her commitment and bravery in being a truth teller, perhaps I was too willing to overlook the negative aspects her lack of restraint in chastising and ultimately burning bridges with many along the way. However, the latest attack on Eva Bartlett and Vanessa Beeley and, more so, the way she seems to have upped the anti in her call that other journalists need to distance themselves in order to maintain credibility has felt disproportionate and in some ways just wrongheaded, particularly when it seems that her allegations appeared to be flawed. Ironically here calls for people to abandon the duo to save their own credibility, which in some cases felt all too much like threats, seems to have had the effect of causing some of her own supporters and colleagues to feel the need to distance themselves from her to maintain their credibility. Like I said though, some of the rhetoric on Twitter was really the last straw for me.
Anyways, as requested, hereโs what Iโd intended to leave as my final comment at Newsbud:
I find it hilarious that I didn’t think much of you when I read the before JC video comment. Shot myself in the rear again. JimBob from Flourida who has lived in the same town what Doc Holiday came from and can be just as bad a shot as he was. But that didn’t slow him down much.
Not sure I follow. Are you saying you read my initial response at Newsbud and “didn’t think much of [me]”, then changed your mind once I commented here? Also not following the JimBob stuff. Would you care to clarify?
No. I didn’t think too much of you because I didn’t think you were questioning enough. I was wrong, you detected controversy, insisted on viewing the opposing argument, and made your decision based upon facts, not sentiment. That’s rare. And as for JimBob; I’m just a redneck from fluorida. There’s really no explaining that one.
Hey Benny! I’m pleasantly surprised to see you here. Your comment was a letter which I did not share in terms of sentiment. I am glad that you took the time to investigate your concerns; and then instantly clear the air on the matter. Big brain AND big cajones. Obviously committed to truth as well. That’s a lot to know about a person. I’m not that respectable myself, but I do like it when I see it in others. JimBob from fluorida. Irritating person, but you know he ain’t right so you just let him be.
Benny, it appears your comment is receiving attention from other sites. I just got this quote:
Edmondsโ explanation?
โAngie, they expressed their wish to โunsubscribeโ and we fulfill our subscribersโ requests diligently and promptly. When you unsubscribe your latest comment(s) gets deleted automatically. Now, please let us know if you wish to unsubscribe, and I will immediately cancel your account and refund you. Thanks:-)โ
Which doesnโt seem to always be the case, based on comments left on Corbettโs video response to Newsbud.
https://www.corbettreport.com/fact-checking-newsbuds-syria-under-siege-video/comment-page-2/#comment-49201
based on similar complaints. The link to that site was first given by HRS. Here it is again though:
https://seekingredress.com/2017/11/06/when-you-dont-make-the-cult/comment-page-1/#comment-1844
Thanks William. This is a real drag, I don’t want to play a part in expanding any sort of beef and choosing sides. I canโt escape the feeling that in some ways I put myself in this position by making a strong statement to begin with, then cancelled my account without seeing to it that Iโd clarified publicly why I felt differently after having watched the video James put out (when I probably shouldโve been more reserved to begin with) in the same place Iโd made the previous comment. But, yeah, the text posted here was what had seen before I cancelled my subscription that had left me under the impression that what Iโd previously wrote was going to disappear anyway.
I think the situation leaves me with cause for self-reflection, but I still feel distracted like it’s a thorn in my side as it stands.
Understand. The hardest part about learning is that we have to admit we were wrong before. The bigger lessons are the most bitter. If it’s any consolation, it doesn’t do any good to worry about things out of your control. Though I think there is a good bit of influence going on. When things get really bad with me, I just relax and try to enjoy the ride. That probably doesn’t help though. JimBob
bas, the link you provided returns a 404 error. Has your work been scrubbed already?
James, if I recall correctly, you had previously identified your work on Gladio B as some of the most important you have done. I myself have made mp3 recordings of all five parts and have been trying to absorb the information while going about other things. In light of what we’ve unfortunately witnessed, how do you feel about the veracity of the Gladio B information as proported by Sibel Edmonds? Much of her claims are difficult to independently verify as we were relying on her personal experience during her time with the FBI and the integrity of her word.
I hate that I have to call into question her previous work like this, but it seems as if I have little choice at this point.
I wanted to post some of the comments from the comments section on Newsbud on this piece. Some of you are wondering if Sibel is being manipulated, and when I see stuff like the below I really have to wonder myself.
“Thank you Sibel and Spiro,
I appreciate the time taken here and attention paid to documenting statements made directly by Bartlett and Beeley (particularly those on Twitter) as well as statements from former colleagues of the pair whoโd been caught off guard by instances in which both Bartlett and Beeley had strayed, in many ways quite recklessly, from standard journalistic practices.
I must say these revelations come as a disappointment. Like many whoโve chimed in to the discussion here, I too have appreciated some of the work both Eva Bartlett and particularly Vanessa Beeley have done in combatting much the Western/Atlanticist agenda driven propaganda thatโs been so prevalent, pervasive, and perverse in driving this horrific and tragic manufactured conflict.
I wouldnโt go as far as to say that the work done by Bartlett or Beeley has been entirely without merit and Iโm not under the impression that this is whatโs meant to be implied either. Like many here have stated, Iโve particularly appreciated their efforts to expose the White Helmets for what they really are. Still, as has been carefully documented and exposed in this piece, in the process of doing this important work, each woman has taken egregious missteps which violate fundamental journalistic principals, not to mention basic personal standards of integrity and decency.
In contrast with some of the views expressed here in the comments section which call into question the harshness of the rebuke of Bartlett and Beeleyโs practices, Iโd have to agree with Sibel and Spiro that the way these women have gone about providing coverage of the Syrian conflict, even if their work has been motivated by respectable intensions, has passed the threshold of what could be considered worthy of constructive criticism or debate to practices which warrant raising alarm on the grounds that both Bartlett and Beeley have crossed boundaries of professionalism and objectivity to a level of recklessness which is literally putting peopleโs lives at risk.
I donโt doubt either womanโs passion or sincerity about their desire speak on behalf those whoโve suffered unspeakably over the course of this sick, shameful, and endless wart, but it seems pretty clear at this point that their passion and conviction in their own self-righteousness has pushed them in a direction where theyโve lost any of the necessary objectivity or sense of the need to adhere to basic journalistic practices (if thatโs the role they seem to see themselves playing) to an extent where theyโve adopted a style of protecting their own self-image that theyโre willing to undermine their own integrity in the sorts of ruthless attacks against anyone they perceive as threatening their status or questioning the โtruthโ as they see it, seemingly oblivious that in a conflict with so many layers of complexities, competing, and converging interests that, perhaps unwittingly, theyโve failed to recognize the extent that theyโre perpetuating and fueling another side of the type of propaganda theyโre attempting to combat.
The main thing again though, is that theyโve gone well past the boundaries of whatโs acceptable or safe practice for the roles theyโre placing themselves in, presenting themselves as journalists, that a warning of this nature is a necessary public service which ought to be taken into consideration and acted on. Even if itโs not rejecting their work in its entirety, itโs probably those in particular who may hold some sway, such as Patrick Hensington at 21st Century Wire, who I generally feel does good work and follows responsible and ethical journalistic principals, to step in and point out that the nature of the criticism, like whatโs expressed here, isnโt just competitive defamation but a call for alarm which merits serious consideration.
I know that sparking controversy of this nature through this kind of exposure isnโt the type of situation Sibel relishes, but I know sheโs a person who always puts integrity and principle before self interest more consistently and with a greater level of commitment than anybody else Iโve witnessed firsthand. I have less time to observe Spiro in this capacity, but he certainly seems to hold league with similar commitment in what Iโve witnessed thus far. Putting out this video and sparking this debate was a bold, but I believe necessary move, which I support even as I digest the situation and I observe how the information is received and digested by others in turn.
Thanks again,
~Benny”
I wanted to post some of the comments from the comments section on Newsbud on this piece. Some of you are wondering if Sibel is being manipulated, and when I see stuff like the below I really have to wonder myself.
This is from “Robert Diggins”. I especially like this part
“The big deal is that, when exposes, such as this one, cause some cognitive dissonance and confusion, we take our responsibilities, as members of this community, seriously.
Again, it might be the first time some of you have seen some of the depth of Sibelโs seriousness, integrity, and courage.”
Below is the entire post by him
“ATTENTION NEWSBUD COMMUNITY:
For some of you, this might be the first time you have seen how serious Sibel Edmonds is, concerning her continuing efforts to expose corruption.
Her journey began under very serious circumstances and she has continually received praise for exactly the direct, unambiguous, and most notably courageous stances she has taken, even while theses stances made her more vulnerable.
People from across the spectrum of society, internationally, from hundreds of national security whistleblowers, to common people who have a wide variety of perspectives, skills, and interests, have used one word the most, to describe her actions to expose corruption and those who cover it up. Courage.
I was lucky enough to start learning about Sibel and her story while she was still battling the FBI in court and donated a very modest amount to her legal defense fund. I say this because her courage captivated me. I have personal and family experience with efforts to fight corruption and โCity Hallโ, and I grew up learning that it was a very uncommon trait. So, I kept up with her efforts and public forums, where I learned quickly what the key to her courage was, at least in part.
It has always been the decision to only speak about what she knows and what she can back up. To limit speculation and stick to the truth that is the real foundation of her desire to take a stance in the first place.
Most of us play fast and loose with speculation, compared to Sibel.
That said, I have confidence that the vast majority of this diverse community are individuals who value this rare vein of integrity that has produced multiple motherlodes of exposed corruption. Iโm talking about historical significance. Think of the State Secrets Gallery, Gladio Plan B, COINTELPRO2 and the disgusting deeds of not only the former Speaker of the House and many other criminal government officials, but also the Hoover-on-steroids criminal government that benefits from recruiting, corrupting, and entrapping government officials who can be compromised and controlled.
Many YouTubers are discussing โbrownstone opsโ and the like now, but think back to 15 years ago. 10 years ago. Even 5 or 3 years ago. It has been a terribly long wait for any kind of media to get the bigger picture that is not resolved to incompetence and blowback. Even after Sibel handed it to them on a silver platter, through extensive interviews of herself (with Corbett on Gladio Plan B for instance โ how many of you have watched that entire series and seen just how blown away even Corbett was? It was quite the education for him as for all of us.) and of other national security whistleblowers, triple-checked front page magazine stories and appearances on shows like 60 Minutes and Democracy Now (until a democrat was elected), and through tesimony under oath and penalty of perjury (see the Krikorian Case Sibel Edmonds testimony on YT).
Very few took the time to absorb the massive amount of detailed, backed up narrative. Even other producers at BFP during those times were slow on the uptake. And now? Many alt media figures are coming out with โbombshellsโ, which are not as accurate or complete as what Sibel disclosed so many years ago. And some are using her material without crediting her. But thatโs not the big deal here.
The big deal is that, when exposes, such as this one, cause some cognitive dissonance and confusion, we take our responsibilities, as members of this community, seriously.
Again, it might be the first time some of you have seen some of the depth of Sibelโs seriousness, integrity, and courage. I hope you will allow yourselves to learn from it, and let it serve as one role model, in particular, for validating your emerging convictions and contemplating what is and isnโt speculation coming from a person such as Sibel. It might be helpful to take another look at her history in this respect.
Please pay special attention to the clear notion that, during times like these, Sibel has never been concerned with being liked or popular. And she has paid a serious price for this conviction, while the rest of us have benefited.
Thank you for considering this long expression of my perspective. I wasnโt able to take the time to make it more concise. My apologies for that.
Robert
P.S. I would like to offer another seed for thought. Weโre the Black Panthers, the American Indian Movement, and all the other anti-war and/or human rights activist groups infiltrated by COINTELPRO because they were stupid? Or is it possible that any of us can be fooled? We all know the irony of โIt canโt happen here.โ, but do we also consider โIt canโt happen to me.โ?”
Also, when you consider my two posts above about the possible manipulation of Sibel, consider that she just go done defending General Flynn a while back. From what I recall he was the head of the pentagon intelligence agency. That in combination with the above two posts does raise some alarms.
It’s almost like she’s being fed disinfo and somehow her cognitive capacity has been reduced to the point where she cannot filter out the bullshit.
Look at this post from Sibel
“Thank you, Gerald. Since we didnโt want to go for a too long a video we did not include several cases (documented). Hope we will soon. For example: We obtained their travel documents/log (via our sources in Syria & Lebanon): They spent 75% of their time in Beirut and Damascus, staying in the most expansive 5 star hotels (we have the hotel bills;-) and very expansive dining; and we have them on record telling people they pay for these trips out of their own pocket, and sleep on the floors in airports and very cheap motels (all documented interviews). It may sound petty but it tells you a lot. Also, SSM raised $1.5 million in the past few years and funded this two big time (that out of picket nonsense is pure lie), additionally, a former NATO pilot from Croatia (Morina), a staunch Israel supporter, gave them money (This man lives in Syria, with a house in Lebanon as well; he made millions of dollars in 3 years from โUnknownโ pilot activities). Anyhow, much more out there- and we have limited resources. I thank you gain for your supportive response. Corbett usually is very good and thorough with checking backgrounds for his guests and fact-checking. This was very uncharacteristic for him. We sent him a long e-mail, and hope he does the right thing: issue disclaimer and or retraction. For the sake of his siteโs credibility. We value him as a partner.”
Who is feeding Sibel these “travel documents/log (via our sources in Syria & Lebanon)”?
Think about this.
I mean this seriously looks like Newsbud has been infiltrated. I found it hard to believe earlier even though I promoted the concept.
Now I am really starting to worry.
If I remember rightly, General Flynn was brought down exactly because he was being paid to promote a certain oil pipeline through Turkey, the very weak point of Sibel Edmonds and why I suspect she is doing all this, Turkey’s involvement in trying to bring about regime change in Syria.
I don’t think this is just a case of narcissism. Her narcissism is likely being played on though. Please read the below comments I made and tell me what you think.
Has Newsbud been infiltrated?
Heh. ๐ I just read Benny’s post above the posts I just made… I was probably wrong about Benny being a handler. Is this video really so effective that it can fool someone like Benny? I mean, I haven’t watched the original, just the Corbett tear down of it.
I just found it almost unbelievable that someone could be fooled by it after watching the Corbett vid and thought the only way someone could comment on it positively is if they were somehow an agent backing it’s production.
If this is narcissism, there surely must be something more than that. I mean, even someone as daft as I am had some reservations on what Sibel was claiming on twitter. I specifically remember see the cussing in quotations and thinking that it was being taken out of context. I haven’t followed the whole mud fight so to speak, but that really stood out to me and the Corbett vid confirmed it. So, how is it that Sibel is making such a demented and bullshitty analyses? I mean, I usually think of her as much more intelligent than I am, but this is the dumbest assed thing I have ever seen. I mean, I still haven’t ruled out the infiltrator possibility entirely. I mean, who is handing her this “evidence” of “their travel documents/log (via our sources in Syria & Lebanon)” for example? I still cannot rule out infiltrators… but why has her cognitive capacity declined so much that she cannot she what bullshit she is spewing?
At the very least, this is more than narcissism. Are we witnessing the beginning stages of cognitive decline in her? Seriously. That would make a lot of sense. Don’t Alzheimer’s patients have issues like this in the early stages? Combine that with some narcissism and someone feeding her bullshit, and this result could easily be produced.
But who is feeding her the bullshit? Can any of you identify anyone like that that has contact with her?
When smart people get stupid, it is usually one of the best hold my beer moments you can find. If we can’t control our minds all the time, what makes you think the government can? JimBob: Expert in stupid
Perhaps we should also question her victim status, as well? What if Spiro is not an innocent either? It’s always a tough choice between some government conspiracy or our own inexplicably insanely stupid self-destructive character defect Armageddons, but I’ve found the latter works almost every time in my life. And with most others, as well. Open mind, but still a questioning one. Also, the why’s of a problem (at least to my simple mind) are often irrelevant when you are actually facing down a zombie horde and your girlfriend just threw the handcuff keys out the door. There is a time for reflection, but timing is a concern as well.
I don’t really look at this situation as petty/childish Twitter wars. If Sibel/Newsbud are manipulating stories like this then why should anyone trust her/their credibility? In addition, Sibel’s personal attacks don’t comport with “seeking truth” (which is what I was hoping Newsbud would be about) nor with the statement “where media integrity matters” (which is Newsbud’s tagline).
And would someone please get Sibel to watch Corbett’s video. He has even gotten me to reflect on my own methods of communication. Hopefully he could do the same with Sibel.
Also interesting was how (at the 1h 22m 13s mark of the video) James said “we’ve barely corresponded in the last year or two”.
I’m guessing that means he had already seen signs of this coming prior to Sibel’s criticism of Beeley/Bartlett.
“Does Sibelโs meltdown and consequent badly damaged credibility put into question all that she said about Gladio B from your perspective?”
Excellent question! However, from 1:27:59 until 1:30:37, James talks about how it’s all about the verifiable information, NOT about the people.
This is a very important lesson for all of us.
you might like to remove the reference at the end of your About page
Could someone get Sibel to draw a picture of a clock?
James you need to see this tweet Sibel made to you. And no, you cannot escape the twitter! LOL
https://twitter.com/sibeledmonds/status/979798657837907969
I’m so glad that I’ve never had the ability to project any of my meltdowns on such a public forum. But, since it’s not my meltdown, I find it a lot more amusing. JimBob from fluorida. What? Did you expect me to lie about it?
In a very recent correspondence with Newsbud (an Anonymous Newsbud Admin I must add), I was told the following after I had raised my concern about the nature the organisation’s behavior having previously backed their Kickstarter campaign:
“Certainly watch Corbettโs piece โ for a prime example of โdisingenuousโ โ a masterpiece of mis-direction โ when you donโt like the message attack the messenger.”
And
“Perhaps you might want to re-visit Sibelโs series on Glenn Greenwalt a few years back. At the time she received the same backlash as now, attacks that were almost verbatim to these today. How could she disparage such a fine man, a real reporter, etc, etc, etc. What was she thinking? Attack after attack, subscriptions cancelled… years later, what she reported is now accepted, widely quoted โ because she was right about Greenwalt at the time, just as sheโs right about Beeley & Bartlett now.”
Note the spelling of “GreenwalT”.
Mind boggled. I had not mentioned anything at all to do with Corbett or Greenwald. This does seem to me at least to be orchestrated and scripted based upon the wording of the replies I received in the email chain. Very odd.
My respect for your piece James! Remember: Not enough sleep makes dementia come earlier.
Just in case: What do you want us to do in case one day you yourself end up producing videos like Newsbud just did? We won’t be able to judge what happened to you – menopause/mkultra/stupid/psychopath/agent/somebody-got-to-you/financial-stress/..
The only choice we’d have is to stop funding you, which is not exactly the most compassionate action to take.
Any suggestions?
Call me cruel, but I say if James does start producing crap like that, I’ll stop my funding. I don’t see that happening, but I ain’t funding it. JimBob from fluorida thinks that where he spends his money is a pretty powerful statement.
I feel like this might be like a Christopher Hitchens situation. Juss wundrin’ what her ‘9/11’ was…
Hot off the press: Sibel Speaks Her Mind on Corbett
From the comment section of Newsbud video “Stop the Assault on Medical Neutrality, War-Time Humanitarian Relief & Freedom of The Press!”
Carlos Alfaro says:
March 30, 2018 at 3:13 pm
Has Corbett lost his mind? Wierd .
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Sibel Edmonds says:
March 30, 2018 at 4:10 pm
Hi Carlos, I think he has. This started last September (2017) during and after our 9/11 Roundtable (at Newsbud). He declared that it was waste of time for people to research/push/talk about 9/11 after 16 years- and that it was time to move on to โcurrentโ topics. While in some ways it made sense (to a certain degree), in other ways it did not: 9/11 set the stage and tone for all these wars of aggression we have been witnessing since. This is one of many reasons I loath seeing people calling so many sides โTerrorists.โ This trend (pretext) was started with 9/11, and has continued: to dehumanize targets by calling them terrorists.
Anyhow, after that 9/11 incident we were pretty much out of touch with each other. Then of course, this case came along. And he was/is very upset because some of these false info was presented during his interviews with these women, and he took that as an assault on the integrity of his work (which is very silly- all he had to do: put some disclaimer). In contrast, some radio host named Richi Allen came out publicly, went on record on this duo (despite past promos and interviews heโd done on them), and elegantly moved on.
Not only it is weird, but it is also sad. There will be several other reports by other outlets on this duo (both alternative & MSM) in the next 2-to-3 weeks. With each expose, each report, heโs going to find it that much harder to clean up. And that ultimately (in the long run) will hurt his credibility- and I am truly saddened by that. He used to be very thorough, serious, and cautious. Sigh.
So he didn’t want to do what she wanted and that makes his credibility suspect? I suspect she wouldn’t like me very much. JimBob who don’t need no drama queens stirring up his world.
I actually “attended” that above mentioned 9/11 16th anniversary event. If memory serves, James said something to the effect of (*heavily* paraphrased)
“Shortly after the events of 9/11 and the ones that followed, the ‘truther’ community thought they had their silver bullet – the super weapon that can be used to wake up the masses – but 16 years later, all we’ve done is managed to rehash the same issues over, and over, and over… After all this time, the best we’ve got is still just ‘But what about building 7?’; we should have been able to make much more progess given the amount of time, effort and resources we’ve devoted to this issue. But most importantly, the effect of this information has had on the collective consciousness of humanity has seemed to have reached a sort of saturation point, wherein those who choose not to allow themselves to be affected probably won’t be in the future either. Perhaps we’ve milked this cow dry and our efforts might be better served elsewhere?”
* Please note that nearly none of the above was verbatim as I took no written notes and have not seen any video or heard any audio recordings of the event. All I have is my memory and for some reason, that’s how I remember it. If someone else was there, feel free to correct any mistakes I may have made – I’m only 80% confident about my re-enactment.
All this is to say that Sibel, once again, is being disingenuous in her assertion “He declared it was a waste of time” (I’m reminded of Michael from the Office declaring bankruptcy – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuGIgf-ICHM).
Normally, I don’t consider myself to be gullible or stupid, but this woman had me for a long time. I now kick myself for not acting on the many little warning signs I’ve gotten from her over the years.
I actually didn’t like that show because it was too close to the truth. Loved that scene though. JimBob
That “Titans of Truth” 9/11 Event sure stirred the scuttlebutt in the Corbett community and other communities.
https://www.corbettreport.com/announcement-911-webinar-and-conference-in-denmark/#comment-43251
The Corbett comment threads around and following 9/11/17 had a lot of folks coughing about the event.
For example, one comment: Newsbud lost my support with their attitude and I donโt want to be a member of such club.
A lot of dough. Why did Sibel set such a high price? or any price?
Of course, I don’t know…but I think that Corbett participated because he promised he would…and then when he found out more on the details, such as the cost to the non-Newsbud members, he was already committed. In a way, he kind of got dragged into Sibel’s thing, trying to do her a favor, not aware of all the details such as fees charged to the public, until it was too late to gracefully back out.
But I don’t know. I am just speculating.
I think from that point (Titans of Truth) on, Corbett kind of distanced himself from Sibel. I would.
But, again, this is just my speculation.
I lose a lot of wagers. I won’t wage a bet on this one.
…and…
https://www.corbettreport.com/announcement-911-webinar-and-conference-in-denmark/#comment-43266
Thanks for the links HRS. Will look into them.
Hmnn…yet her own attitude seems to be very much like “You Are Either With Us, Or With the Terrorists”
Sibel Edmonds says:
March 30, 2018 at 4:10 pm
Hi Carlos, I think he has. This started last September (2017) during and after our 9/11 Roundtable (at Newsbud). He declared that it was waste of time for people to research/push/talk about 9/11 after 16 years- and that it was time to move on to โcurrentโ topics. While in some ways it made sense (to a certain degree), in other ways it did not: 9/11 set the stage and tone for all these wars of aggression we have been witnessing since.
Hmmmm….
Thanks WideAwake for this tidbit of info.
I’m not going to get involved with this silly war that is being waged, however this quote really caught my attention!
I did not see that 9/11 roundtable discussion and so did not know of James’ current sentiments re: 9/11.
I would most definitely like to hear from James himself to see if this statement by Sibel is accurate?
James has done some very powerful and important work re: 9/11 investigations. If this is indeed how he feels about the relevance of 9/11 today I would be totally shocked and monumentally disappointed!
Since everybody knows about 9/11, and yet they do nothing (this sentiment is obvious), I would say this is a practical approach. If nobody is going to get ticked off at it by now, they never will. Meanwhile, while fixating on a lost cause, the Russians are interfering with elections in Antartica. JimBob from fluorida who recognizes that some people choose their battles carefully even though he himself prefers the full-retard bezerker mode hisself.
First Annual 9/11 Activist Summit
Titans of Truth: 9/11 Activist Summit (Sunday Sept 10, 2017)
(Original Event Page)
https://www.newsbud.com/newsbud-event-first-annual-911-activist-summit-titans-of-truth/
My think:
As pointed out, I think that this event became significant.
The event itself illustrates how Sibel is going off the rails, because she designed the event.
“Activist”?
What a joke!
There was no real attempt to perform activist outreach to the uninformed.
Not with: Price: $145 (Newsbud Community Members) $180 (Nonmembers)
Give me a break. And why would Newsbud extort a total revenue of thousands of dollars into their coffers from folks interested in the topic if the mission was “activism”?
To me, the event’s purpose was not about activism, but rather the purpose was to fill the coffers by putting on a fee-based “Newsbud Parade”, masked as activism and truth.
And who were these folks?…
Surprise Star Guests: 2 Distinguished Guests from the 9/11 whistleblowers and scholars community
Not to be hypercritical, but this delusional hyperbole of a title “TITANS of Truth” reeks of arrogance and over-the-top marketing.
I just noticed that they’ve put out another video on Newsbud. I haven’t watched it yet, am going to do so later on. I’m way behind on things right now. Remember when they said these computers would make us more productive? I haven’t got a thing done since this started breaking. Anyway, here’s the link from youboob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px7-dF6PjaY
Oh yeah, comments disabled. The gold standard of ethical journalism.
– Significant Event –
Again, I want to emphasize that the Titans of Truth: 9/11 Activist Summit of September 2017 was a significant “event”.
This “event” helps to set the backdrop for the scenario which culminated with Sibel’s needless attacks on Eva and Vanessa (and Ron Paul’s website), followed by Corbett’s “fact check” about Sibel’s attacks.
Sibel thinks this 9/11 event was significant.
This is a link to her website comment (and other Corbett members on this thread, above and below this post, have copied parts.)
https://www.newsbud.com/2018/03/29/stop-the-assault-on-medical-neutrality-war-time-humanitarian-relief-freedom-of-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-28739
Around the time of this Newsbud 9/11 event, many Corbett members and also many non-Corbettmembers of the general public were perturbed by Sibel’s handling of the event…
https://www.corbettreport.com/fact-checking-newsbuds-syria-under-siege-video/comment-page-1/#comment-49027
(Continued from above)
Octium says:
March 30, 2018 at 8:31 pm
Are there any links or videos to the 9/11 Rountable discussion?
I would like to know what was said.
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Julian Swan says:
March 31, 2018 at 9:18 am
Isnโt it a little hypocritical to be up in arms about doctors being called terrorists and then in the same report to falsely accuse Tim Anderson of being a terrorist. .?
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Hatsumi Shimohira says:
March 31, 2018 at 2:02 pm
Dear Sibel, Spiro, thank you for the insight and the courage.
I donโt know who is behind those people and what is the purpose, but I have to say, whoever planned this knows well the mass psychology. People love so much having heroes and they could become completely blind for their holly heros, as you see many still believe in Assange and Snowden, and many more.
As you say in the previous video, itโs obvious that they look for something different from MSM to control people and theyโve been quite successful with it, unfortunately.
Eva Bartlett admitted that she and her colleague received government fund. It means they are not independent activists or bloggers (Iโm afraid to say they were never really journalists, werenโt they?) Why did they lie?
She didnโt say which government and how much they received but their fans donโt seem to care now. Nobody asks them. Their followers are blind, they donโt want to hear anything bad about their heros, I see this sad phenomenon very often on the internet.
I look forward very much to your further research. It is yes, so important to learn how not to be deceived by so-called alternative media, although, itโs really a tough work.
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Hatsumi Shimohira says:
March 31, 2018 at 3:23 pm
Iโve seen a Fact Checking Newsbudโs โSyria Under Siegeโ Video of James Corbett.
I wonder why he kept talking about twitter for 99minites. And why he only attacked Sibel? As there are many commentators in this video. Iโm afraid to say that James took an effort to change the impression of the video, sort of hypnotism or mind control. After watching his video, people forget about other contents of news budโ video and remember only about twitter exchanges! If Jamesโ fan could see there are many more important things to check than talking about twitters;
1. People donโt talk to the camera in Syria, you need to write down, why Eva and Vanessa could make interview film?
2. You canโt walk alone without protection by security forces in Syria, how Eva and Vanessa managed?
3. Why Vanessa forced Dr. Makengie to remove all the references of Hezbollah in her report?
4. Why do many Sylien activists complain about Eva and Vanessa?
5. What is the secret that Vanessa talked about the Sylien government; โ I donโt have a liberty to tell you..โ
6. Many write letters to stop 2 bloggers to ruin Syrian reputation, why?
7. Eva said that she and Vanessa received government fund, which government and how much they received? Why donโt they tell that to people? Since when do they receive fund or since when do they work for the government? People believe that they went to Syria many times with their money, what is the reality?
8. James talked for a long time about f*** and only showed โf***โ version, but there are many more f*** versions too. And I donโt think Sibel was talking about only this word, what she says violent, profanities, terrorizing is about whole the conversation on Twitter.
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Sibel Edmonds says:
March 31, 2018 at 4:47 pm
Dear Hatsumi:
That is a pretty objective assessment. James Corbett, intentionally, glossed over the three most important issues presented in our video report: 1- As you can see in our recent short video report this duo has been calling any journalists with differing stand/opinion โTerrorist.โ Not once, not twice, but dozens of times over the last year or so. Not only that, they actually provide a link to UK security agency, and demand that people report these journalists to the government there, and demand that they be jailed as โterrorists.โ Now, James Corbett, who openly (and proudly) presents himself as anti gov and anarchist, now says that- This is no big deal, and that he condones and supports this duoโs action on this. This is not the Corbett I used to know. 2- Calling majority of the volunteer doctors (not only WH, but every single international aid and medical orgs)โterrorists.โ Again, Corbett used to tear apart the MSM and Gov statements that contained constant accusation of โTerrorists/terrorism.โ I invite every one to listen to this duoโs interviews, their social media posts, and theyโll see that every single writing/statement includes the word โterroristโ multiple times, and it is directed to the 6+ million refugees, doctors, analysts, journalists, researchers, Syrian expat communities โฆ and the list goes on. Well, that same Corbett who rightfully criticized and condemn this โterroristโ characterization, is now condoning/supporting it. 3- Plagiarism Cases- There are so many documented cases of plagiarism by tis duo, including some of the materials they presented during his show. All this reeks with hypocrisy (thatโs putting it mildly) and a very sharp 180 degree turn. Why?
As for your questions:
1-Because they are always accompanied by 2 to 3 Syrian government military/intel forces (That is mandatory in gov held areas) and those are the ones who select who gets to be interviewed, and who is not. What is allowed to be said, and what is not.
2-They never did. Over 76% of their time (we have their hotel bills, and travel log obtained from people who used to be with them on the ground) in Beirut (Lebanon) and Damascus. They stay in the most expansive 5-Star hotels with a very few short day trips to safe zones, and always accompanied by Syrian gov reps.
3-I am not sure. She is the right person to answer that question. The general reason: Beeley-Bartlett believed that including that fact would negatively affect Syrian gov position in the eyes of international audience.
4- Because as Syrians in Syria, or expats with family/friends in Syria, they have seen many false reports and lies, and they believe this is an operation, and paired up with B-B attacking all other independent voices from this community (many of them Pres. Assad supporters).
5- This was from an actual e-mail communication (we showed that) betweebn Beeley and Scott Gaulke. She alleged that: Assad secretly confided in me and told me that he and his gov did engage in torture. He gave me details, but I cannot violate the secrecy. Pretty preposterous. Just ludicrous.
6- Because they are Syrians who care about Syria. They believe their gov has been dupped into giving this two access, and that the duo actually is damaging truthful reports on Syria โฆ among other reasons.
7- We donโt know the amount of money/funding they receive from the Syrian gov. We sent requests and have not received any response (so far). However, it is my understanding that the majority of their funding (in high 5 figures) come through some twisted channels connected to the large NGO umbrella directing the US chapter of Syria Solidarity Movement. All I have been told by them (SSM): it is in large 5 figures and it comes from an NGO in California with several sub smaller NGOs.
8- We did not want to spend hours showing 100s of facebook/Twitter posts by this duo threatening the Syrian antiwar activist community members. I believe there are several facebook pages where they have documented (screen shots) these exchanges as well.
Thank you for your critical thinking and observations, and also for posing the โpertinentโ questions rather than trivial spins/twists some people seem to be lost in. While under pressure financially (years ago) we supported Corbett (when he was new with not many viewers) with monthly payments in the range of $1500 per month so that he could quit his day time job (Teaching English) and persue journalism/reporting. I personally rounnded up donors and supporters for him when he had none. I am not listing this to gloat, but to express my utter shock and disdain on what started taking place with him about a year ago, escalating to these very vile public attacks. And sadly, I know he will be losing credibility in the long run (Several other outlets have been investigating Beeley-Bartlett operations- one report will be out in about 10 days)- every expose/report coming out on this two will be also about James Corbett now that he has publicly put himself in this position. Truly sad.
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John Beverly Greene says:
March 31, 2018 at 7:57 pm
maybe he needs to get out more. i lived in japan a couple of years & you can feel very isolated over there. itโs a whole world to itself. iโve usually enjoyed his take on things. too bad. sad.
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Sibel Edmonds says:
March 31, 2018 at 8:15 pm
Dear John: Thank you- possible. Maybe it is a combination of several factors. I just looked at his website where he posted this very uncharacteristically vile video, and if you look at the comments section: there are 220+ comments posted only by 5 group think people, and if you read the comments youโll see who/what he is surrounded with. I too agree: he was/is a brilliant man with many talents- and it is so sad to see someone I partnered with and supported for 8 years to get to this point. I hope heโll get back on the right track and produce the work he used to up until a year ago: sound, solid, in-depth exposes and analyses that are so rare to find elsewhere.
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Ok, so which one of us are the 5 group think people?
I hope I am one of the 5.
If not, maybe I can send a request to make me Number 6 or Number 19 or Number 34 or (I lost count).
Since I have about half of those comments and she acts like those people are of low moral character, I guess I be william munney today. ๐
And don’t you be cuttin’ no….. Just thought I’d make it officialish. JimBib
I could be wrong on this but I feel like you’re focusing on the “insult tweets” Sibel made rather than on her intentional deception.
While I admit I am mainlining this carnage, I think it is actually creating a stronger alternative media. Or is it alternative? I’m not so sure. Many of the NB writers have demonstrated a far more professional attitude about it than I am capable of doing. There is a great deal of reaching out, standing by others (not behind), and sides are being drawn on grounds of ethics for the most part. And that’s important. Ethics will get you through just about anything. JimBob from fluorida who knows well the consequences of not paying them any attention.
SOTT – “Sign of the Times alternative media
https://www.sott.net/article/381328-Has-Sibel-Edmonds-gone-off-the-deep-end-Newsbud-editor-attacks-21st-Century-Wire-Eva-Bartlett-Vanessa-Beeley
“Cabin Talk” Video on Bitchute about Newsbud/Corbett
https://www.bitchute.com/video/heArhusgkTnm/
“The Lifeboat News”
http://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/thread/1522386301.html
When You Donโt Make the Cult
Why I No Longer Support Newsbud by Katie Aguilera
(Read the comment section)
https://seekingredress.com/tag/newsbud/
Regarding the above link: Katie Aguilera once wrote for Newsbud. Read the comment section, because further links exist there.
(Thanks to Olivier for the following link)
Peter B Collins
April 2, 2018
Peter Collins talks about Newsbud, Sibel Edmonds, Corbett Report, Eva, Vanessa, Ron Paul Institute, etc.
(Starting around the 13m28s mark)
https://www.peterbcollins.com/2018/04/02/pbc-news-comment-media-ignores-gross-misconduct-in-orlando-trial/
The Ochelli Effect
Pearse Redmond tells his side of the story about how , when and why he became disenchanted with the organization and itโs head Sibel Edmonds.
https://porkinspolicyreview.com/2017/10/25/the-ochelli-effect-sibel-without-sally-field-plus-africom/
thanks HRS, a revealing interview. Really disturbing to learn of SE’s politically motivated attacks on Peter B Collins, and that NONE of the BFP crew made the transition to Newsbud.
James Corbett had connections (at least plenty of podcast discussions) with many of those folk besides Sibel, so I get the feeling that this break with Newsbud has been brewing for some time. Which chimes with James’ reference to little contact for a year or so.
Redmond’s comment that he now considers most of the Gladio-B info a steaming pile of BS is interesting to say the least ; wouldn’t want to say food for thought !
I appreciated hearing Pierceโs take on his falling out with Sibel at Newsbud, but I think he goes off the rails when he starts saying that the Gladio B stuff is bullshit and that itโs just some sort of cultish creation of hers. I definitely think he gets a bit carried away but I suppose heโs entitled to his opinion and I can understand why his experience working with Sibel left him (and I suspect others who were dropped or left the original roster) feeling bitter. I guess thereโs a lot of disappointment to go around. I had my scuffles with Pierce from time to time in the comments section on points of contention, but never without maintaining a level of civility and mutual respect. I think itโs really the lack of civility and loose or slanderous accusations which tend to get to me the most as the nasty comments on Twitter were part of what pushed things over the top for me.
to be fair Benny, he (Pearse) doesnt call Gladio-B a cultish creation. He says during most of his time at BFP he treated Sibel with a veneration which inclined him to take her Gladio-B story on trust. When he lost the veneration — partly because of what he felt was an excessive focus on fund raising and even cynical milking of funds from demographic target groups — he started to examine her Gladio-B claims more seriously and found little in the way of verification.
Sure his personal and unpublished investigation alone doesnt prove that her Gladio-B narrative cant be verified ; but its unobjectionable that it needs to be revisited with those normal objective standards in mind
Thanks Mark, I think you’re right to make the distinction. That was poorly phrased on my part and I like the way you put it that โwhen he lost the venerationโ for Sibel, he realized, reasonably so Iโd say, how much of the information, given its classified nature, required a level of trust that perhaps many (if not most of us) were granting without a prudent measure of objectivity and skepticism.
I guess a lot of people right now, certainly myself included, are struggling with this sense of dissolution with the contradiction between Sibelโs recent behavior and, to use your term, the sort of veneration many of us had for her. Some of the skepticism Pearse seemed to be expressing on the podcast show just didnโt quite feel right to me personally, but I donโt fault him as being unreasonable given some of what he described as having been his experience with Sibel and Newsbud, or as having been unreasonable in the past for that matter even when we disagreed at times. I think there was always a mutual respect.
Hopefully that made a little bit more sense. (although Iโm not quite sure ๐ )
Uh-uh, I think James just opened up a can of canadian-ninja whup-ass. I’m thinking that people might start learning about consequences. You know, sometimes when people see just how merciless consequences can be; they start to check themselves. JimBob from fluorida who has had many a can of whupass opened up on him and only deserved most of them.
Thought this might be helpful and amusing.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZUprG6Yaa50/
James Corbett is not on Twitter Song by Pressfortruth
Nice.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/y4jjo4vb9xPi/
Saintly Oswald’s opinion of Sibel.
I’m seeing a trend here as to what people want out of their media. I guess it’s not all crazy in the world.
While my hair is drying a bit, the great news is yet another savior given to us by hollywood. I kid you not, that is the theme. The best part is they sound so serious. I’m sorry, I’m just a fool on a hill. You can’t make this stuff up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=h6p6dNPWEUw
Ryan Dawson jumps into the fray and (unless somehow I’m misinterpreting), he’s on Sibel’s side. His comment (“All I can say is ‘I told you so'”) makes it seem as if he holds a grudge against James. I get the feeling he doesn’t understand what CorbettReport is really about (that is, beholden to seeking truth).
https://twitter.com/RyLiberty/status/979901040341364736
James – thank you for (to steal someone else’s line) “piercing through the fog” and not getting distracted.
And to the viewers/listeners, please consider a donation to James if you have the means. Let’s not take his work for granted.
Yeah, he’s on her side. He’s a bit of a jerk. I’ve been throwing him a dollar a month, but if this is what he got out of all this; I’d rather give it to that spoiled logan biotch that filmed the guy who committed suicide in the Suicide Forest. Oh well, guess with that dollar saved I can finally afford that coke habit I always wanted. JimBob from fluorida trying to be like water in all this crap ain’t that easy.
This is turning all quite pathetic. Could the video James put up be any more obvious?
Some Twitter people are saying that James “owes Sibel loyalty” because his channel was (essentially) built by having her as a guest. I have no idea if there’s any truth to that but I will say that I used to think she was one of the top guests. But all respect to James for having the integrity to cut ties with Sibel because it was certainly warranted.
It’s amazing to me that people would criticize James for caring about integrity over “being loyal” to someone who was obviously deceptive as well as mean-spirited/unprofessional.
Many of her followers are cardboard cut-outs straight out of Foutainhead. If you don’t believe me, here is a comment from one cultist:
On second thought, James, you need to look at the Sibel situation not objectively, but as a therapist. Disinterestedness and a desire to find a positive outcome is much more important than objectivity here. And the deep-seated cultural conditioning and values and how they affect our perceptions are largely unconscious, of course. I may not be able to articulate them adequately, but there are some very important lessons and insights to be gained in resolving this “dispute” you have with Sibel. Which I sincerely hope you do.
Of course, this same person claims that irrationality is superior to rational thought. I don’t claim a firm hold on rational, but I’m thinking they’re crazy.
By his own account, James’ site was motivated by his initial veneration of Alex Jones. But it was built by and rests solidly on his sober style, humorous good nature, the sheer range of guests with impressive specialist knowledge, and his obsession with verification and citing sources. Personal favourites of mine are James Perloff and the Tragedy and Hope crew, seeing i have a history bent. Whatever your bent though, James has had a podcast with an expert or two and a raft of material to follow up.
Sibel looms large as one of the most stellar and sensational guests, owing to the detail and nature of her claims, and stress on media integrity. She and James owe absolute loyalty to media integrity ; she’s betrayed it completely now, he’s obliged to defend it against her
He doesn’t owe anything to anyone. Well, I don’t know if he has any outstanding debts with a bank or a bookie, but other than that, he’s worked a lot for establishing this site and every guest contributed in part to it, all the while broadening their user base.
Not to mention, James kept quiet for quite a long while and only spoke up when he felt threatened. In fact, he should have spoken sooner, a pox on him.
Okay, I also went to play her latest video; but I only made it through 2.5 minutes of it. No questions asked yet, she was fawning over this 10th amendment guy the whole time and hadn’t finished when I’d had enough. Sorry, I never signed up for that. I feel used, but not in a good way. And to think Ry took her side today when she put that up yesterday. Yes, I’ll get fooled again (cool guiltar sounds)! JimBob from fluorida so what else did you expect out of me? It’s not like I didn’t tell you I was from fluorida.
โRevealing the Liesโ on 9/11 Perpetuates the โBig Lieโ
by Michel Chossudovsky.
The author is cautioning all of us in his very title, to be careful about what it is you are revealing/exposing. Some of the โliesโ you are revealing only serve to perpetuate the โbig lieโ.
One of the lies that the author talks about AS ONLY PERPETUATING THE โBIG 911 LIEโ is the โforewarningsโ. Edmonds, the FBI translator is big on forewarnings, forewarnings of terrorist planning that they deliberately failed to translate, forewarnings that they erroneously
translated, etc.
โโฆWe also should have NO interest in questioning the Report with respect to the EXTENT of intelligence failures, because by definition it means we are repeating the mantra to the public, repeating the mantra that it was intelligence failures โ the only question is how bad, how
incompetently. They have heard this lie enough already. It is not for the 911 truth movement to make them hear it more often, to push so that it will be heard louder. And that is what the promoting of this Edmondโs story is doing. (Not to mention it also gives people reason to think the solution is in cleaning up all these incompetent organizations.) It is only for the 911 truth movement to expose the truth โ that is that 911 was a successful intelligence operationโฆ
THIS!
This is so true!
I was always struck by Sibel’s repetition of the “forewarnings” angle and it always rubbed me the wrong way.
It was as if she agreed about the Muslim terrorists, who they were and what they did. It was simply a failure to read the tea leaves in advance!
Benign interpretation: She restricted her remarks on 911 to information that she was the witness of.
This goes beyond remarking specifically on information she witnessed.
She had many years (more than a decade) to reflect on the information she was a witness of.
After all that time she still had/has no problem referring to Muslim terrorists who committed 9/11.
bas, I admire your forthrightness. Best of luck as you carve a new path.
Heck…I am so bad at getting duped or strung along or not quite following the road I should, I swear that number ‘1’ in front of my I.Q. point shouldn’t be there.
Although my name isn’t Mark, I have a T-shirt with the name “Mark” written on it. It has a descriptive ‘Easy’ above the name. I always wear it to the Texas State Fair. That way, the Carnies can shout: “Hey! There’s an easy mark!”
Is there anybody here who still has an active account at Newsbud who’d be willing to link to the comment which was intended to be my last one ? For those who missed my comment early here, at the Corbett Report, I basically intended to explain why I changed my decision about voicing support for Newsbud’s report in response to some of the points James made here in this video, particularly Sibel’s comments on Twiiter, which I hadn’t seen, which ultimately convinced me that I wasn’t comfortable supporting Newsbud anymore and opted to cancel my membership. For those of you who haven’t viewed my comments above, I’ll ask you to scroll up the page and review them for a more detailed explanation. I see some of the other comments which were critical have been yanked (probably when they cancelled their subscriptions) but mine is still up there. Perhaps I should’ve been wiser not to have shown the degree of support I did initially, but hey, I’m willing to accept responsibility for having been wrong or mislead (however you want to look at it). Still, to post my comment expressing support then prevent me from presenting my rationale for my change of views and withdrawing of support for Newsbud feels really wrong! If anybody can help me with this, here (again) is what I’d intended to be my last comment while I was under the impression that my comments would be “automatically” deleted from the page when I cancelled my subscription.
Thanks~B
BennyB, I don’t see your final post anywhere on the “Syria Under Seige” comment section, did you post it under another thread?
There’s no way she will allow that to directly contradict the one she likes. But, there is a link below that which references this comment section where he did post it. IF they ain’t smart enough to click that link, then why should he care what they think. It’s not like anyone going there wouldn’t realize they were in a blizzard of a sh*tstorm. JimBob from fluorida sez the right to be stupid is a fundamental right.
No, it had been pending review by moderators and just never showed up…
It’s such a disappointment to say the least! I’d actually agreed with the point Newsbud had made that Bartlett and Beeley’s requests to try to remove comments which contradicted previous statements was a poor practice which demonstrated a lack of integrity, but here they are blocking my attempt to explain my change of opinion and I have no control over the matter. This is extremely hypocritical. It’s particularly painful since I feel like I vouched my credibility based on past experience as a friend.
Over the years as a member of the Boiling Frogs Post community there were plenty of times I had passionate but respectful exchanges with Sibel over points we disagreed on and there were plenty more instances where some pretty harsh criticisms were made by other community members in response to certain videos and articles which Sibel responded to or in some cases just ignored but she never tried to sensor or delete these comments. The only time she deleted comments in the past was when they were overly toxic and/or riddled with profanity. If you read the comment I intended to post I think it’s pretty clear that it’s about as civil and fair as you can get.
In retrospect I feel like Newsbud might have been the beginning of the end for Sibel. She’d always seemed principled in the past, even when she spoke harshly. This was something I really respected about her. It would be interesting to examine the way in which the toxicity that exists on Twitter (and I imagine Facebook as well) seems to foster self destructive tendencies. I think there are certainly people who wanted to see Newsbud fail and It’s possible that there were certain COINTELPRO style elements going on behind the scenes, but from what I can see this seems to be an unprovoked attack where she’s really shot herself in the foot even if she may have yet to realize that she’s bleeding. As has already been discussed here it just seems that sites like Twitter and Facebook are just so prone to fostering a sort of self destructive behavior that it’s just a matter of sitting back and waiting for it to happen on its own. It would be interesting to examine this angle, even on a macro level.
One of the things I respect so much about James which I think has contributed to his success and longevity doing the kind of work surely a lot of people out there would be happy to see fail is the fact that he’s been so mindful about avoiding engaging in disputes or making disparaging comments about other figures in the alt-media. He was really forced into putting out this video and did it reluctantly but was extremely judicious about limiting the scope of his critique to the specifics this situation and went through the painstaking task of referencing the documents directly on the screen and taking the time necessary be clear about his views and citing the additional resources where it was helpful.
If your comment includes more than one url, it automatically goes in the moderation queue. Don’t know if that was the case, otherwise you might try with just one url.
Olivier,
No, there weren’t any links in it and I can see that many of the initial comments that were critical of the piece aren’t there anymore. It’s really sad. I don’t know what happened over there, but like I said in one of my previous comments and based on what I’ve gathered from statements made by Pierce and Katy about their falling out with Sibel in relation to Newsbud, it seems like Newsbud was the beginning of the end for Sibel and in light of what’s happened, I suppose having my initial response and voiced support on Sibel’s behalf permanently engraved in the comment section with no chance to reflect my change in opinion on the matter at large is a frustrating lesson to have had to learn considering the fact that aim to take care and be thoughtful in the way that I express my opinion in the digital domain. But as they say; live and learn and indeed there’s much to be learned in this situation. I have a hunch the unpleasantries surrounding this incident are still far from over, but hopefully I’ll be able to take into account some of what’s already transpired and respond more wisely moving forward.
Attention Newsbud moderators!
Attention Newsbud moderators!
Attention Newsbud moderators!
Newsbud selectively “keeps” or “deletes” comments from past members who ‘resigned’. This illustrates a deliberate false impression resulting from the actions of Newsbud moderators.
BennyB says: “…to post my comment expressing support then prevent me from presenting my rationale for my change of views and withdrawing of support for Newsbud feels really wrong!….
Thank you, James. A sad but necessary task. It’s hard to know what happened with Sibel. Too many people whom I have followed have ended up wandering off into what appears to be some sort of insanity. I’m not talking about the shills here, just the people who have lost the plot. Anyway, thanks again.
I loved this video. Really well researched. Good job! I must be out of it, but have never heard of Newsbud and or that wacky and mentally unstable Sibel. There is one thing that was not clear…the part where you spoke of how Sibel placed the comment way down on the post, stating that 21st Century Wire is a credible news organization, etc. So, if Sibel spent all of that time trashing them along with Ms Beeley & Bartlett, then why would she bother making that comment? I did not see the logic…even for someone as illogical as M. Weirdo Thing.
A gatekeeper may be also someone who doesn’t understand the “truth” and has collected a base of followers putting out information that fits their point of view, which, for all intents and purposes, may be crippled (by various forms of bias, for instance.) So, there must not be something sinister going on behind the curtain.
Vietnam war (along other wars) was firstly a battle for the mind. As long as you can deploy several hundreds of thousands of people thousands of miles away to destroy, maim and torture you have achieved a resounding victory. The war machine is there to enable the grueling process, but you firstly need the consent of entire nations of people. Minus a goddamn hippie here and there.
I’d refrain from objectively comparing Chomsky and Edmonds, this thing she’s pulling now is more fitting to a third grade Mexican telenovela. Most of her supporters will continue supporting because they don’t want their god tarnished, same story all over again. As James stated it time and time again, it’s about verifiable information, not about the talking head.
“Most of her supporters will continue supporting because they donโt want their god tarnished, same story all over again.”
I think this is what irks me most. It’s incredibly infuriating to me to see people, particularly the very people who’ve navigated the rabbit holes, wide awake to the kakistocracy, who should absolutely know better than to tolerate tyranny from the very ones supposedly exposing the belly of the beast. It’s fundamental in my opinion. I have a hard time seeing a way forward when so many of us are blinded by loyalty, who look the other way, making excuses for the despot like he/she’s “only human”. Repeated early symptoms must be confronted and the offender held accountable. If the offender’s reaction is to silence dissension, time to cut the chord and move on, simple as that. Anything else is a slow death by compromise, and a betrayal of principle.
I’ve been monitoring the “About Newsbud” page, and the names which remain are complicit by their silence. Each one could make it on their own, yet they remain.
Very informative and insightful discussion all over the place here in regards to this video and the fallout. I appreciate reading everyone’s take on this whole thing.
As I was reading manbearpig talking about gatekeepers, I was thinking about Chomsky, and how shocked I was to see him essentially shit on someone for asking him about 9-11. So I was going to mention Chomsky, but you already did. This Sibel situation has a very different feel to me than with Chomsky – though she still may very well be a gatekeeper. I have the same question regarding Julian Assange since I believe I saw him more or less do the same thing to someone asking about 9-11. Sorry for a bit of change of subject here, but I feel like I have to ask, do people here see Assange as a gatekeeper as well? Thanks in advance.
Good call manbearpig; thanks for responding – and with such pop. ๐
Assange is definitely a gatekeeper ; as anyone with a high profile on MSM. And they all attack 911 truthers publically, which Assange has done
at least William Engdahl seems to have departed ; i’m pretty sure he was on that page a week ago
I am proud to be your friend.
It will be interesting to see what the reactions are of the rest of the Newsbud team.
Peter Lee has this site: https://chinamatters.blogspot.com/
That is also a very nice article your link referenced. Sort of dispels that iron-clad rule and superior strategy image one gets of China. He keeps things in perception so well that one can almost imagine that the world is still just spinning round and round like it always has.
Wall: Those things you say happening might have been the cracks in her public mask. We all have them. I’m really that blind kid that rode with William Munney. Still, I shot hell out of that guy in the outhouse. Can’t help but remember that some old geezer once said something about those tangled webs once we gets to lying. Always embarrassing when they find you handcuffed like that. JimBob from fluorida who sees this kind of crazy some 6-7 times a day round here.
Kurt Nimmo used to have this: https://web.archive.org/web/20170726033851/http://anotherdayintheempire.com/ , seems to be gone now.
The Corbett / Edmonds fallout is one of those events you wouldn’t ever think you’d see, or hear. But, I happen to feel for James in that if he’s appearing to seem hysterical – in Sibel’s eyes – it’s not that he is, really….any more so than anyone else getting a whoppingly blindsided brain fuck, courtesy of the ferment whirling over at Newsbud.
So, Sibel, we thank you for your past services, or at least I do. I’m not going to question your sincerity and integrity as a whistleblower. Although, the jury isn’t exactly out on that score, yet, unfortunately.
You know, it is hard to know what’s going on. But, I have a sneaking suspicion that it has to do with where Sibel is, personally, in respect to her life, career and her relevance, if I may be blunt. Most significant is that Newsbud hasn’t blossomed. Has it? Actually, I don’t know because I’m never on it. There’s something about it that bores me to tears. Well, quite frankly, that “something” is Spiro. Yeah, he’s a nice guy, sweet and affable and the like; but, Lordy, he’s not a newscaster! He may be talented as hell in a hundred different respects, but not with what his function is over at Newsbud. And, so, being that Sibel hasn’t been able to attract the right kind of talent for the right kinds of positions over at Newsbud, it leads me to believe she’s been spinning her wheels and getting, in the meanwhile, awfully frustrated. I mean, awfully, awfully frustrated! To the point that she’s got nothing better to do than go after a much younger and vibrant “Sibel Edmonds” in the form of say, an Eva Bartlet, for instance. Dare I intone the concept of….jealousy?
Anyway, who knows what the hell is going on, really? You all remember David Shayler, right? The MI5 whistleblower who went off the deep end, so it would seem? Look him up. He had some very interesting things to say about the inner workings of the security services apparatus. But, he’s only human, and, alas, there’s no telling how much stress taking on the roll of whistleblower may have on any individual, including an aging Sibel, heaven bless her.
Voice of Arabi, did Newsbud ban you? I always wondered why you stopped commenting.
wall,
There are a lot of comments, and now we are page 2 of the comments’ section.
So, it is easy to miss things. Here is a previous comment of mine.
For the record โ Corbett Report Members mentioning Sibel Edmonds and Newsbud.
I read most comments on this website.
For close to a year, on occasion, different Corbett members have mentioned a variety of things about Sibel and Newsbud which were not very positive. No drama โ just their opinion, question or an anecdote. (Thank goodness civil discourse is uncensored here.)
Most recently, just prior to this video, some Corbett members who were talking about Newsbud migrated to the thread at “Interview 1316 โ Eva Bartlett Exposes the Lies on Syria.”
I have often heard stories from folks that Newsbud will censor people or kick them out if their viewpoint differs from Sibel’s.
wall,
Specifically, to answer your original question, see these two links…
https://www.corbettreport.com/whitehelmets/#comment-47946
and
https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1273-newsbud-launches-new-funding-drive/comment-page-1/#comment-38426
The Newsbud 9/11 EVENT
On the previous comment page are quite a few comments about that event.
It is significant in that it provides a backdrop of behavior. Three or four months later we had the Edmonds attack Bartlett/Beeley.
On the previous comment page are some links.
A lot of folks gained insight from The Ochelli Effect interview.
Has anyone else noticed the tweets supporting Sibel on twitter? Who is making them? Dumb supporters? I used to think it was cointelpro until I saw that BennyB really was fooled. But still, I really have to wonder if there is some sort of cointelpro op egging her on to destroy herself.
I mean… This does not seem normal for her at all. Seems like everything changed after BFP became Newsbud.
Did anyone else notice the sort of hamfisted promo type comments in the comments section on Newsbud after it changed from BFP to Newsbud? The ones were they would say something like “Just another great video by Newsbud”…
I mean… something weird is going on there. I wish I could think of all the things that irk me about this, but that’s all I’ve got for now.
Has anyone else noticed anything odd?
And does anyone know what happened to Xicha? I haven’t seen her post in years.
No, wall. This is a good question. I remember Xicha from years back at BFP and had many a good discussion. But the exodus seemed to precede Newsbud by a certain length of time and I can’t recall an incident which would’ve prompted the leave.
I am surprised she doesn’t post here. I always wondered what happened to her.
It’s because she is a he; which is why she looks so hideous in those insurance commercials. JimBob who never passes up an opportunity to be low class.
Xicha
Xicha
Xicha
https://www.newsbud.com/2018/03/21/newsbud-exclusive-report-syria-under-siege-guarding-against-wolves-in-sheeps-clothing/comment-page-1/#comment-28830
EXCERPT
FYI, for all of you BFP OGโs: I am Xicha. I briefly left BFP, after a misunderstanding and a heated discussion, some years ago. That didnโt last too long. Sibel is also a personal friend and we hashed things out in private and she asked me to come back to BFP. When I did, I chose to use my real name. Itโs Robert Diggins. I know some of you thought I was a chick, LOL!!! But Iโm not. ….
Hey Wall (& Benny), just back from catching the veiled threat you recommended I see, and while I was there I caught this comment from Xicha (who sounds like a decent, loyal fellow, btw):
https://www.newsbud.com/2018/03/21/newsbud-exclusive-report-syria-under-siege-guarding-against-wolves-in-sheeps-clothing/comment-page-1/#comment-28830
Too many comments to navigate – if this has already been pointed out, oh well…
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that, not only did they double down on stupid, they just hit the nitro boost! But, I did like the little language lesson that was totally irrelevant to anything at all. JimBob who knows all there is to know about being irrelevant.
Yeah, that was cool. Poor guy.
I like the smell of butthurt in the afternoon.
It’s strange that this “Xicha” is now accusing Corbett of getting bought off. I mean… really. Will this be as “soundly” backed as the stuff Sibel claimed about cussing?
Look at this post by Tim Ferner. Especially read the part starting with “war-mongers”.
I mean… This is a psyop. I just can’t figure out what the purpose is.
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Tim Ferner says:
April 5, 2018 at 4:39 pm
Why yes, I am serious about the United States getting pulled deeper into the conflict in Syria. I donโt want to see any more American lives lost over there! The rank and file military member have no interest in being deployed to the Middle East now or anytime in the future. Most military members have been deployed there at least once in the past 18 months for a 90-180 day rotation. It gets old being deployed away from their family and loved ones. Having lived in Saudi Arabia for 3 ยฝ years and spent almost another 6 years deployed throughout the region I know exactly what its like!
โWar-mongersโ ??? You obviously donโt know much about the military. Going to war is not fun! 99% of the military members I know donโt want to go into an environment where they might be killed or maimed. The proposition of taking another humans life is not something military members take lightly. Pulling a trigger or dropping in a war zone is not something most rationale humans want to doโฆitโs a hell of a lot more difficult and more thought goes into it then what you see in the movies or on TV. โMuddy waterโ in a place like Syria is exactly what pulls a county like the US into the fray. BTWโฆthere is no โUS/NATO/Zionist-war machineโ. Having been with NATO for 8 years I can attest to it being a dysfunctional organization incapable of making a decision letalone an informed decision. It has plenty of military assets but lacks the capability to deploy them. Member nations wont go to a war zone and place the burden on the US to goโฆthey will deploy to certain areas depending on the per diem rate. Zionist war machine??? Really???
Itโs difficult to take someone seriously when they use the terms โUS/NATO/Zionist-war machineโ, โwar-mongersโand โPsyopโ . Very odd verbiage indeed. Its awesome people have opinionsโฆeven better when they are informed.
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It’s quite possible that he is simply telling the truth from his perspective. Few people know less about a conflict than the soldiers involved. The phrase “Soldiers are like mushrooms, feed them bullsh#t and keep them in the dark” didn’t just pop up without a reason. 99.9% of all soldiers change their mind about war being cool when they get orders to go to a war zone. He is also on the money about the competence aspect. The military is infested with the step-by-step approach to everything. And like all bureaucracies, it chases out talent while promoting incompetence. From his perspective, he is probably telling the truth. It is the very top levels, of this incompetent and useless band of pinheads, that you find even more incompetent people who ARE this crazy alliance. See? All that time in the military finally paid off! JimBob who uses the Copperhead Road approach with his military memories.
I want to propose this idea. This is an elaborate conspiracy to breed divide within the truth community and to discredit and destroy it.
????
What do you think?
I got to wondering after I saw this story about Corey Feldman.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/03/28/corey-feldman-claims-he-was-stabbed-in-his-car
He’s going around telling everyone about the evil pedo’s in Hollywood… and then we see these story where he likely falsely claims he was stabbed.
I mean, are we seeing heroes being purposefully created only to be destroyed later so that whatever they were supporting will lose credibility? I really have to wonder. Because this sort of crap would have just that effect.
This same scenario is unfolding across several sites right now. I mentioned it earlier during my blizzard of comments. But, like anything else done by people who would wear a pussy hat in public; it hasn’t gone well for them. I don’t know why people are always scared to have truth and open=ness on their side; it always seems to work out better for them when they call on it. JimBob: Just saying
Wall,
if the people trying to keep some stuff out of the public mind were NOT setting up hero’s and making them fall off the pedestal then they would hardly be doing their job. Look at the 9/11 folks and the Pizzagate folks after them and how they ended up being thought of as crazy nuts because of the constant arguing and noise generation over things that are either a)unlikely b)unprovable either way or c)crazy…even though they both had PLENTY OF FACTS to show general weirdness in the official story.
The “powers that shouldnt be” dont need to keep secrets from the public they just have to make the public’s minds unwilling to accept any truth that they are told to reject. Thats why I like Corbett Report since i dont even NEED to trust what he says because he’s aggregating data from freely accessable sources. Just like Skinner said his Walden 2 most people dont want to bother learning or thinking or doing much outside their own day to day lives.
Duck says:
…Thats why I like Corbett Report since I don’t even NEED to trust what he says because heโs aggregating data from freely access able sources.
Yeah, I should have trusted my gut and thought a bit more.
What is going on with Pizzagate and the Parkland shooting anyway?
1) I wonder about pizzagate. I recall at one point people were linking to this ron paul forums thread where they were posting heavily censored images of some of the crap from hollywood and playboy and the like that really made me wonder if someone was trying to frame those looking into pizzagate. And some of the pizzagate stuff. I mean, is it really about satanism or is that just a red herring to make people look nuts? To me it looks like pedophilia is more of a sort of entrance test into that level of society. Kinda like how cryps have to murder someone to join the cryps gang.
2) What is going on with Parkland?
I have found out so far that
a) There are at least 3 witnesses that heard multiple shooters
b) Hogg, according to his own words, wasn’t at the school and cycled to it after hearing about the shooting. And we are supposed to believe he went to the school during a shooting to hide in a closet and make a vid?
c) How did Hogg know Cruz was the shooter while he was hiding in the closet?
d) Why was the school security tape rewound by 20-26 minutes depending on the report you read? I mean, conveniently this event happened on a drill day and the security footage was on a 20-26 minute delay to create as much confusion as possible?
e) Was march for our lives really planned SEVERAL months in advance? Isn’t it an awful coincidence that the Cruz shooting happened at just the right time to really make march for our lives hit home?
f) Is Soros really funding this protest movement? Were the protesters paid and bussed in?
g) And as for that Hogg picture that you can find on arrests.org if you look in south carolina… I mean, the person shown in those images is only VERY slightly different looking from Hogg. But was that a purposefully planted red herring?
h) Is Jim Fetzer legit?
And Corbett, please cover that shooting… PLEASE!!!!! Your tore apart oklahoma city. No reason you can’t tear apart Parkland.
Or are you just waiting till there is more info out?
Regarding point no 1
Real Big Money: Revelations by an insider
https://vimeo.com/212237317
Found a voiceovered version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84vbw_flvqA
I wonder what the goal is in putting out a vid like that. I don’t trust the guy one bit. He’s building up trust. But what’s he gonna do with it? They just let him go? It sounds bullshitty.
I don’t think his emotional reaction was acted nor scripted.
It’s obvious he was on the edge there, if that was acted it was worth a gremmy at least. Does he state he was tortured? I didn’t catch that.
Wall
The Pizzagate folks hang out on VOAT now.
I kinda think Corbett was right about the kakistocracy, bad people tied together by shared crimes. The thing is that normal people dont want to think about things like that… most people cant even kill and cut up a chicken these days and reject the horrible idea as impossible even though they busted a norweigan online pedo ring about the same time the story blew up and it had 150 TERABYTES of filth and included a lawyer , teacher and a couple of politicians or that snuff movie maker Peter Scully who they wanted to bring the death penalty back for.
Even if there isnt a pizzagate satan ring the fact that rich and powerful people like to collect pedo, necro and canibalistic “art” and hang with a woman who does crowley style wall painting spells with blood and jism is PRETTY WORRYING ๐
If the guy next door it would be bad enough let alone the guys who move the levers of power.
I feel I must reinforce the positive outcomes of this whole discussion which I have followed closely in recent days. I listened to the whole of the Ochelli Effect interview with Pearse Redmond which helped clarify my thinking and a re-evaluation of Sibel Edmond’s activity after 9/11, and I have come to the preliminary conclusion that she is a disinformation agent, because all her work has been directed at the 19 Muslim hijackers, and hence away from any US and/or other government involvement.
All her efforts on Syria from her interventions is also to detract people who differ from the official government (US, UK, Israeli and French) story.
The fact of disenchanting all the BFP and Newsbud volunteeers, staff, supporters and subscribers or the ethical questions does not seem to bother her in the least, perhaps because there is support from black funds for all this ‘work’. She merely moved from an official FBI job to an off-the-books position.
Sibel’s work is vast, yet you claim that “all her work has been directed at the 19 Muslim hijackers”.
How can you say that when the overwhelming majority of her work has nothing even remotely connected to the ’19 Muslim hijackers’?
In fact, you contradict yourself in your very next paragraph when you make reference to her work on Syria; work which is clearly not directed at the ’19 Muslim hijackers’.
“All her efforts on Syria from her interventions is also to detract people who differ from the official government (US, UK, Israeli and French) story.”
You have concluded that Sibel is a disinformation agent with allegiances to the US, UK, Israel and France.
Can you please give us a few examples where she makes clear these allegiances?
“perhaps because there is support from black funds for all this โworkโ. She merely moved from an official FBI job to an off-the-books”
Can you give any proof that she has received black funds?
Oh, so sorry. I meant the work for which she became famous – about the 9/11 “plot”.
All the FBI gag order work, the Gladio B stories, the Syria stories and all the Bartlett & Beeley stories.
No, one has to read between the lines.
No, just supposition.
Sibel has very effectively proven herself to be an utterly unreliable source.
Canโt argue about that one.
Colin786 is trying to understand why she seemed so bent on peddling the โBin Laden did itโ fairy tale which might indicate an allegiance to the official story espoused by the US, UK, Israeli and French governments,
Hereโs my take on her pushing the Bin Laden fairy tale. Itโs really quite simple.
At the time of her employment at the FBI she did in fact come across tapes
talking about vague plans for an attack (perhaps planted plans by another party).
Whenever she talked about Bin Laden and the Muslim hijackers it was in this capacity.
Years passed after 9/11. YouTube came along as did the 9/11 Truth Movement and a whole lot of 9/11-related information became available and disseminated.
It quickly became crystal clear that Bin Laden and the hijackers had nothing to do with 9/11. Clear to anyone who had done their 9/11 homework.
Sibel published her first book (Classified Woman) in 2012. Despite having years to research what happened on that fateful day she still had no qualms stating that the U.S. was attacked โsupposedly by stateless invisible enemies scattered around the globe.โ
(i.e. Bin Laden and the hijackers).
You may wish to label her a disinfo agent for maintaining this stance. I choose to say
she simply has been a very poor 9/11 student.
and why she seems so utterly unphased by the ethical and economic fallout of her demolition derby.
This is another matter entirely. I canโt answer the question at this moment.
Newsbud may well go bankrupt depriving its contributors of a means of revenue. To Colin she seems unconcerned about this: perhaps she has other employers or livlihoods orโฆ funds? I hope the others do.
I wouldnโt say she seems โunconcernedโ about this, nor concerned. Rather, I would say she does not believe this affair will have any impact on Newsbud going forward.
Why are you agressing Colin786 for saying Sibel held an official FBI job and may still work for them in some capacity?
Is โagressingโ a verb? I donโt see any evidence of such (her currently working for the FBI).
Please do tell how a a commenter here might go about proving an operativeโs source of black funds?
Yes itโs practically impossible. It would be nice if Colin would triple-fact check though before he made speculations such as this.
Just a thought, how does one fact check something that is not checkable and can only be put fort as a speculation?
Just a thought, how does one fact check something that is not checkable and can only be put fort as a speculation?
I was being sarcastic. I do that from time to time. ๐
Iโll tell you how I feel about Sibel/Newsbud and how they operate.
I think Sibel is the real deal. She wears her heart on her sleeve, tells it like it is, puts her foot in her mouth much more often than sheโd like, is passionate about everything she does, is very emotional and thin-skinned. All of these characteristics can from time to time lead to pieces such as the one we have just witnessed about Beeley and Bartlett.
My personality allows me to overlook them or take them with a grain of salt.
I know how Sibel operates at the Newsbud website; the same way she operated at the BFP website. One criticizes her at oneโs own peril.
There have been many times when I have had to bite my tongue and resist the urge to let her know how I really felt about certain issues. Such is life.
Some people canโt resist. I can.
Overall, the current Newsbud team is very solid, delivering quality information.
My favorites are Kovacevic, Nimmo, Valentine, Ian and Sibel (when sheโs on).
To me, I see more upside to sticking around Newsbud as a member than leaving. Subject to change of course.
By the way, regardless of whether Sibel is running an op or not; she is having a meltdown. That last interview she gave of the 10th Amendment guy was painful to watch. It’s like she was emotionally regressing. I could only watch 2.5 minutes of it. That’s how bad it was. It was the video with Achille’s Heel in the title. The last one in which we hear from her. JimBob who says to never forget to add a dash of crazy in the mix whenever you’re trying to figure out what’s what in the world.
โBin Laden did itโ fairy tale
Coincidently, recently at 911blogger, it seems that a number of users are upvoting the โBin Laden did itโ fairy tale, while promoting the Official Story of hijackers next to the Lawsuit against Saudi Arabia, while downvoting anyone who says the ‘hijackers’ didn’t do 9/11.
http://911blogger.com/news/2018-03-29/lawsuit-against-saudi-arabia-can-go-forward
It blows my mind.
What can I say?
Who can believe that the hijackers did 9/11? (Besides uninformed public)
I can’t see what is in Sibel’s head. Focus below is on summarizing her statements, with a number of questions attached. Unfortunately she is the primary source for quite a number of statements, which is the very case where ad hominem actually does apply:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Non-fallacious_reasoning
It’s a challenge to summarize what it is she has been saying over the years. I think we roughly have three chapters:
A. Sibel’s description of a criminal network interfacing between the overworld (NATO, Congress) and terrorists, originally headed by politically motivated people “gladio-A”, and later operating through religion, “gladio-B”. The greater aim of the empire with the “B” operation was to push back the Russians from central Asia in a bigger repeat of the Afghanistan operation, where the bearded men were thrown as a wasp’s nest in the Russian back-garden. The tactical modus operandi was to have a criminal network move drugs one way and weapons and training for terrorists the other way, in a way comparable to the Iran-Contra operation. Specifically Turkey had a pivotal role in the “B” project because of its linguistic / religious relationship with Central Asia. Other countries involved: Azerbaijan, Belgium, Israel, UK. The transition from “Gladio-A” to “B” involved a power shift in Turkey leading to disgruntled displaced members of the “A” network fleeing to Moscow, ratting out “B” members managing operations in Chechnya from Turkey, leading to these “B” members subsequently getting killed by Russian services. The Criminal network’s operations in the US are particularly concentrated in Chicago, with “A” member Abdullah รatli travelling freely around while being on interpols most wanted list, ultimately dying in a mysterious car accident in Susurluk. In Jan 2008 Edmonds publishes her State Secrets Privilege Gallery, a gallery of pictures of overworld members of this network. The gallery does not include Fethullah Gรผlen, which lateron becomes Sibel’s target of choice. The network intertwines with 9/11 in a number of ways:
— Members Marc Grossman, Prince Bandar and Al-Zawahiri meet in the late 90’s (2000s?) in the (Turkish or US?) embassy in Baku.
— Grossman orders 3-4 911 suspects freed & deported so that they will not “spill the beans”
B. The FBI’s investigation of this network: It was set up as Clinton’s counter attack against the Lewinski scandal, allowing him to circumvent constitutional law in order to dig up dirt on his enemies. The network however dug up dirt on both Democrats and Republicans, and was therefore never used beyond blackmailing direct Clinton opponents, and never led to the actual prosecution of the network. The investigation was infiltraded by the network through her colleague Melek Can Dickerson, wife of Douglas Dickerson, who had served under Marc Grossman (nr 3 in the State Dept and part of the network) in Turkey and who fled Turkey shortly after the Susurluk accident.
C. Edmonds’ own six-month experience within the investigation (B): Hired as a translator, but effectively operating as an analyst because of her background. She witnesses the above infiltration of the translation unit, reports, escalates, gets fired for whistleblowing, and gets gagged by the State Secrets Privilege letter coming from Ashcroft. Edmonds is interviewed by the 9/11 commission where she mentions Dickerson’s infiltration and Behrooz Sarshar warning “that Bin Laden was planning a suicide mission to hit major cities with airplanes and some of his operatives were already in the United States”. On her podcast, she would later relate a scene where a Bin Laden video aired on TV was recognized by the translation unit as being old video material with new audio, that the unit was locked down and that everybody was forced to remain silent about the tape, and refer to documents that she once saw describing the Baku meetings with Al-Zawahiri.
I posted some questions on the newsbud site about what exactly the evidence against Gรผlen was, but would often get no answer, maybe worth looking into as part of the ‘review’ that James plans. Will add links below.
Interview with Ibrahim Kurtulus, who brandishes a DHS document implicating Gรผlen in terrorism:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180123111917/https://www.newsbud.com/2017/10/05/concocting-the-flynn-scandal-clinton-cia-fbi-conspire-collude-in-a-coup-against-trump/#comment-27058
Question on what Sibel’s exact relation to the evidence against Gรผlen is:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180325124640/https://www.newsbud.com/2017/10/24/targeting-michael-flynn-shielding-the-radical-cleric-gulen-special-counsel-robert-mueller-must-step-down/#comment-27162
Last question in comment below: Why wasn’t Gรผlen part of Edmonds’ State Secrets Privilege Gallery?
https://web.archive.org/web/20180316112421/https://www.newsbud.com/2017/10/24/breaking-fbi-whistleblower-exposes-special-council-muellers-conflict-of-interest/#comment-27173
Request for reference to Edmonds’ earlier mentions of Gรผlen:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180203143006/https://www.newsbud.com/2017/11/18/breaking-gulen-movement-retaliates-against-sibel-edmonds-for-exposing-50-billion-criminal-network/#comment-27361
Corection: Lewinski -> Paula Jones probably