Interview 1738 – James Corbett on The Budding Biosecurity State

by | Jul 30, 2022 | Interviews, Videos | 111 comments

via TheLastAmericanVagabond.com: Joining me today is James Corbett, here to discuss the growing biosecurity state, how we got here, and what this inevitably leads to. As we review current events and discuss the varying perspectives surrounding this unprecedented time, we also highlight the many ways in which people are fighting back.

VIDEO COURTESY TLAV RUMBLE / ODYSEE

SHOW NOTES:
The Last American Vagabond

Japan grants 1st payment for death related to COVID vaccination

Heart attack coverage at Off-Guardian

Depopulation coverage at The Corbett Report

The Crisis of Scientism – #NewWorldNextWeek (depression research analysis)

What is the WHO? (links to swine flu hoax research)

How to Spin Gold From Straw (swine flu vaccine artificial demand creation)

BBC: Human species ‘may split in two’

All Your Climate Questions Answered in 60 SECONDS!!! – Questions For Corbett #085

Are There Limits to Growth? – Questions For Corbett #077

Meet Paul Ehrlich, Pseudoscience Charlatan

111 Comments

    • mkey,
      Thanks for this!

      One can’t argue with Probate filings.
      Probate is the legal process for reviewing the assets of a deceased person and determining inheritors.
      ~~WWW investopedia.com/terms/p/probate.asp

      I will be adding this to the very looooong
      SUB-THREAD – Excess Mortality – Life Insurance Companies – Funeral Homes
      https://www.corbettreport.com/holidayopenthread/#comment-126587

  1. Still listening and so appreciative of the continued devotion to sanity brought by your thoughtful discussions.

    How do they do it?
    They offer retirement plans and then their employees “lose it all” through malfeasance, no one ever seems to pay for the crime, the point being, people are left without benefits and no recourse. This is a 90s thing, particularly. Just an example of double-speak in a sophisticated way.

    You watch the weather channel as so many do who live in areas of the country with variable weather. You don’t watch it, but you check it. The same temps that used to show as green are now pink, and it’s the most benign color on our warming globe map. Recently it was 89 degrees here with a 109 “feels like”.. as if. But they convince us of what they tell us we experience. That’s the goal, always was.

    Basics like, it was 100pct chance going to rain today, and by afternoon the same day 2 days ago shifted to 60pct. As if they don’t ever mean it when a guarantee is offered.

    May seem unrelated, but absolutely is not.

    So you go along with what you’re told about vaccines, out of fear. Even otherwise intelligent people …

    To say there is a CHOICE or should be, is fair enough, but there has to be a stanadard of what may even be considered.

    Just as we are expected to believe a building (bulding 7) was wired and brought down because its new owner thought it the best course of action, all in a few hours, we are also expected to believe a sudden need for a vaccine generated amazing rapid human ingenuity to provide the panacea (with updates) to ensure some are rich and others die, in a matter of a couple of months, at best.

    Evidence clearly indicates patents and foreknowledge and experimentation and the best we can get publicly is a WWE-style “combat” between the probable funder, supporter, creator of this and other scourges being “drilled” by someone who probably committed illegal acts to provide insider information to his wife to invest in vaccines. Have we seen the last bout of Paul v. Fauci?

    The entire process is to divert from ever getting to what we need to know to be able to move forward in any coherent way, that may lend itself to a genuine cohesion of individuals who care to ground their thoughts and decisions in their best interpretation of information. Otherwise, known as truth.

    Be very alarmed when the “media” starts covering truthful issues in seemingly honest ways. If they are risking exposure, then something else far more dire is going on and this is their means of always distracting.

    Where did covid come from, who created it, how, with wat funding and who should be indicted? These are questions we inherently feel, but are never allowed to be “validated” by “the media”.

    You’re no medium, you’re excellence.

    • Good comments overall…

      “Just as we are expected to believe a building (bulding 7) was wired and brought down because its new owner thought it the best course of action, all in a few hours, we are also expected to believe…”

      Expected to believe? Who expects us to believe that?

      Certainly not the mainstream media. They never said that.
      And neither did the alt-media.
      And neither did ‘Lucky Larry’.

      • In fact, that is a good point. These are definitely not ever spelled out, however, in the case of the twin towers, and building 7, either there was a deliberate, explosive destruction as is quite obviously the case, or “something else” has to be the cause and the only officially admitted cause was plane impacts and office fires. In the case of building 7, office fires.

        So the unsaid part that they will never say is that after Silverstein went on PBS and admitted he said “such loss of life, maybe the best thing to do is pull it, we made that decision to “pull” …” that it’s an impossibility to do it from morning to evening, decide to bring down a building by pulling it neatly into its own footprint at roughly freefall as later happened on multiple cameras. It simply can’t be done. it took preplanning.

        They must avoid the pre=planning part at all costs.

        So it is with vaccines. Can’t find a cure to something brand new you are still trying to grasp in a matter of months.

        • In fact, that is a good point. These are definitely not ever spelled out, however, in the case of the twin towers, and building 7, either there was a deliberate, explosive destruction as is quite obviously the case, or “something else” has to be the cause and the only officially admitted cause was plane impacts and office fires. In the case of building 7, office fires.

          OK we are on the same page after all. ?
          Certainly explosives brought all the buildings down.

          So the unsaid part that they will never say is that after Silverstein went on PBS and admitted he said “such loss of life, maybe the best thing to do is pull it, we made that decision to “pull” …” that it’s an impossibility to do it from morning to evening, decide to bring down a building by pulling it neatly into its own footprint at roughly freefall as later happened on multiple cameras. It simply can’t be done. it took preplanning.

          Of course Lucky Larry tried to weasel his way out of his PBS comment by saying “pull it” meant pulling the fire department out of the building and surrounding area, because there was so much “loss of life” already. ?

          • yes, except they didn’t do that, did they? We still see eyewitness reports showing explosions, reactions to explosions, people around the building right up until they were all told to get out immediately.

            Larry is an arrogant liar who doesn’t care if he is believed or not, and turns out he was right, his lies were given the veneer of cover so they could be dismissed.

            • “yes, except they didn’t do that, did they? We still see eyewitness reports showing explosions, reactions to explosions, people around the building right up until they were all told to get out immediately.”

              This is what Luck Larry said exactly in the interview:

              “I said you know we’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it. Uh, and they made that decision to pull, and then we watched the building collapse.”

              So you could certainly take that to mean they decided to “pull it” just before it ‘collapsed’.
              That would allow for the explosions you mentioned above.

              The bogus defense they cooked up to save Larry from his foot-in-mouth confession, that his “pull it” was referring to pulling the fire department (it) rather than the common meaning of demolishing a building with explosives, doesn’t hold water.

              No one ever referred to a fire department as “it” prior to 9/11,
              nor did they use the term “pull it” to refer to pulling a fire department from a location.

  2. Ryan:(16:40)
    “Do you believe that there is a SARS-CoV2 out there that is causing this problem?”

    James:
    “I haven’t had whatever it is, so I can’t say anything from my own personal experience. I can talk about people that I know personally in my real life who have had Covid, whatever that is, and who have said this is like nothing I have had before. It is not a flu. So I don’t know. Are they lying to me and why?         

    I think there is some sort of novel illness out there… I do not know the causation of that illness, but a transmissible pathogen is not outside the bounds of reality, and the idea of bio-weapons that have been created specifically to cause illness in the population is not outside the bounds of reality…”
     
    Well there you have it Dr. Kaufman, Dr. Cowan, Dr. Sam Bailey, Dr. Mark Bailey, Amandha Vollmer, Jon Rappoport, Stefan Lanka, David Parker, Dawn Lester, Sally Fallon Morrell, Christine Massey, Shimon Yanowitz, Jerneja Tomsic, Michael Wallach Valentina Kiseleva, Claus Kohnlein, David Crowe, robster, Roxanne, John Blaid, assel, VieuxOrdinaire and Nick.         
             
    James has finally come out and told us his stance on Covid-19.         
    He clearly is in the Germ Theory camp.         
             
    Now here is a question to all of the Terrain Theorists mentioned above (in particular those who frequent the Corbett Report comment section).         
             
    What toxin(s) is(are) causing people around the world to go into detox in such a way that they exhibit symptoms that they have never experienced before in their life?         
             
    This is the six million dollar question that no Terrain Theorist that I am aware of has answered.

    • He also mentioned that some people seem to be more affected than others, which I conclude to be related to terrain. I don’t think it’s an either or debate, at least according to my understanding of modern germ theory, or scientists who acknowledge clear differences in the biochemistry of individuals based on genetics and environment that affect immune system.

      What I have observed is that diabetics and obese people were much much more often affected by disease, flu and Covid and sepsis, etc. People who are thin but of Asian descent seemed to become sicker from Covid at my hospital. There may be nothing to this, but this is what I observed.

    • “This is the six million dollar question that no Terrain Theorist that I am aware of has answered.”

      —-

      Let’s draw a parallel.
      Proving that the twin towers have not gone down because 2 planes crashed on it, doesnt automatically mean you must come up with alternative solution. It simply means you have to clean the air of all the implausible hypotheses, so that we can collectively build (and test) plausible ones.

      In short: in order to build a new paradigm, you must first dismantle an old one without having to come up with all the answers that the old paradigm cannot provide.

      The proponents of the Terrain Theory do not need to have all the answers that the Germ Theory cannot provide – the effort is clean the air of the scientifically unproven Germ Theory so the scientific commumity can start testing new hypothesis free from the germ theory “shackles”.

      What produces the symptoms of c19 could have one or multiple causes (specific imbalances, radiation, chemicals, heavy metals etc), however since the scientific community is not allowed to make any experiments outside the germ theory noone will look into it.

      • Terrain theory makes a solid argument that some or perhaps no virus has been isolated in the traditional definition using Koch’s postulates. But this does not exclude the possibility for the existence of a virus. There are clearly other factors at play, genetics and environment, etc. But unique syndromes of diseases have been classified for centuries and people have experienced transmissible disease as well. There is some common link going on when a person experiences the same symptoms when they contact sick individuals. I’ve had this happen to me at various times that make me think it’s not just coincidental. Germ theory and the theory of immunity make some sense intuitively that without evidence to the contrary, I am inclined to think has some validity. Absence of isolation is insufficient.

        It would be cool to try to set up experiments to test alternative hypotheses like toxins causing specific syndromes. I think people would like to know so that they can have better health.

        • cu.h.j,

          “Germ theory and the theory of immunity make some sense intuitively that without evidence to the contrary, I am inclined to think has some validity.”

          Intuition could be fallacious. Experiencing similar symptoms at the same may be caused by other factors that have similar validity too.

          The classic Kaufman example is: if you go to a wedding party and the next days all guests experience abdominal pains and vomit, noone would be so dumb to think everyone has caught a virus because now we know that the most plausible (and proven!!!) cause is food poisoning.

          The point is that as long as we get stuck in the virus paradigm, the scientific community will continue to assume the virus as the cause of concurrent symptoms to a large number of people and we will not be allowed to test (or even think!) of other hypotheses.

        • > But this does not exclude the possibility for the existence of a virus

          If you make a claim you have to prove it. Not the other way around.

          God exists! And you have to prove that he does not exist!.
          It’s the same.

          There could never be any virus found in nature, ever.
          They always had to do poisoning experiments, and add genetic contaminants like yeast and fetal bovine serum.

          If you only have “opinions” and “hypothesis, which never been proven true and also proven untrue” like Kochs postulates, than you hypothesis is wrong.
          Otherwise you are just moving goalposts.

          • Why could there never be a virus? Because it cannot be separated and live long outside a living system? What if there’s a way to infer it’s existence rather than direct observation. What if there are mechanisms that are not understood yet?

            Sort of how the CRISPER gene editing can cause cancer. There are mechanisms that they didn’t understand and went forward with this dangerous experiment. Molecular biology is not a “hard” science and similar to quantum physics is still not entirely mapped out and understood down to the electron. There’s a lot that both terrain theory and germ theory and proponents of these theories don’t know.

            It’s better to approach the topic with curiosity rather than implying (“You are wrong, you fraud!! you’re using logical fallacies you must be an idiot! You have to prove X,Y,Z and I don’t have to prove anything because you made the claim! You believe in pseudoscience!)”

            This is what I hear when this topic is discussed by both “sides” and it is not productive to further understanding.

            • > Why could there never be a virus?
              It could but then show a proof that there is a virus and that the virus is the cause of disease.

              I don’t make any claim about a causal relationship of a particle and disease.

              It’s a tough claim that the invisible death is everywhere and not having a proof.

              They create a invisible boogeyman. Without proof.
              They just do a monkey business illusion.

              I really urge you to watch this video about every mayor disease outbreak and their studies.
              https://odysee.com/@spacebusters:c9/Final-The-End-of-Germ-Theory:8

              Here there are all studies disected. All methologies everytime it is the same.

              There could be “viruses” but are there?
              Everything is a “possibility” but if your claim affects the whole perspective of health that it should be backed up strong.

              And terrain is at least backed up just by the provable fact that nutrient deficits make you sick and literal chemical poisoning makes you sick.

              • “And terrain is at least backed up just by the provable fact that nutrient deficits make you sick and literal chemical poisoning makes you sick.”

                And so I ask you what specific nutrient deficit OR chemical poisoning made people sick around the world so they exhibited the same Covid symptoms?

                The same symptoms that killed someone I knew personally in less than two weeks.

        • Transmission and viruses need to be separated. Virology has not proven transmission other than correlation. In fact virology has debunked the possibility of transmission through its experiments which show that these viruses cannot naturally survive the trip from one living organism to another. Smaller fragments of genetic material could possibly make it another human but the full sequence of the virus will always break down once exposed to the harsh elements of open air.

          • My understanding is that they can transmit via body fluids, droplets, blood, etc. Perhaps exosomes are involved in transmission. In my understanding, the mechanism are not well understood because cells of living systems and the processes within and how they interact in the body is extremely complex.

            I’ll try to do some investigation and look at some papers. It’s been a very long time since I’ve looked at these topics in any depth.

            • Do you know of the paper published in conjucntion with the spanish flu, to demonstrate the contagion mechanism? (experiements that are as close to real life as possible, and as such, impossible to repeat nowadays because of ethical concerns)

              All of the experiments clearly showed that the is no transmission of something via respiratory channels (throat, mouth or nose) that causes someone else to become sick.

              More details in part 3 of the Virus Delusion series:

              https://www.bitchute.com/video/xl9actZH0HWM/

              In short: the existence and isolation of a virus is unproven beyond reasonable doubt (more than that: the experiments to prove the existence have been falsified), and so is the mechanism of transmission.

              In a society guided by healthy scientific foundations, virology would have already been relegated to the realm of fantasty.

              And yet, as far as back in 1984, we would get statements like this from the Federal Register

              https://ibb.co/4JLfWLf

              Note the line “well founded or not” : so they admit that there may well-founded reasons to give up on vaccines, but hey!, let’s sweep them under the carpet! 🙂

              • Who care whether they are well founded as long as you are well funded.

              • I’ll check these out. I know about the spanish flu experiments. I haven’t looked at the characteristics of the sample they selected.

                Terrain influences whether people get sick and it’s possible that the people in the experiment had immunity to the flu or the conditions were not conducive to transmission.

                I will look for other experiments after that to see what they showed, what sample sized was used and conditions of the experiment.

                I think there is a lot that is not known about how our bodies work at the cellular level especially with genes. The GI tract also has immunity functions.

      • “The proponents of the Terrain Theory do not need to have all the answers that the Germ Theory cannot provide – the effort is clean the air of the scientifically unproven Germ Theory so the scientific commumity can start testing new hypothesis free from the germ theory “shackles”. “

        I will grant you that. However, given the Terrain Theorists’ unwavering confidence that pathogens do not cause disease, I find it unconvincing when they say any symptoms someone has from a disease is caused from the body undergoing detoxification.

        In this particular case (Covid) we have symptoms that people have never experienced before in their lives, I think that is something to sit up and take notice about, don’t you?

        “What produces the symptoms of c19 could have one or multiple causes (specific imbalances, radiation, chemicals, heavy metals etc), however since the scientific community is not allowed to make any experiments outside the germ theory noone will look into it.”

        I have heard this explanation before. It is extremely weak in my view.
        It’s like saying fire, a baseball bat, acid, and a bullet will all cause the same injury symptoms in a person.

        And since when has the scientific community been prevented from conducting science experiments outside the germ theory? I’m not aware of that.
        Stefan Lanka has done many as just one example.

        • “In this particular case (Covid) we have symptoms that people have never experienced before in their lives, I think that is something to sit up and take notice about, don’t you?”

          Actually I have a very compelling one counter-example for that. Aside from loss of smell, all c19 symptoms overlap those of common cold or flu. And yet, for 50 years my dad has had strong colds when he would routinely lose his sense of smell, sometimes for weeks. And noone has ever even implied in my family (or his doctor! Or other doctors! ) that there was a novel virus causing that.

          “However, given the Terrain Theorists’ unwavering confidence that pathogens do not cause disease”

          The only unwavering confidence is that noone has conclusively proven that (a) there is a pathogen called “virus” (b) the pathogen causes a disease. In short: the confidence is on the “proving” aspect. The difference is not subtle. “Proving” is where the virology science breaks down completely.

          “And since when has the scientific community been prevented from conducting science experiments outside the germ theory? I’m not aware of that.”

          Pretty much forever. I would recommend the 5-part movie “The virus delusion” (with Lanka, too) for more details. You can find it in bitchute.

          • “It’s like saying fire, a baseball bat, acid, and a bullet will all cause the same injury symptoms in a person.”

            Allow me to say, this is a very simplistic reasoning. If you stop and think for a moment, there are hundreds of counter-examples to that.

            Ingest rotten meat, bleach and a glass of the oil of your car and you will experience the same symptoms: vomit.

            Just one example. Do a 5-min research, and you will find other 10.

          • “In this particular case (Covid) we have symptoms that people have never experienced before in their lives, I think that is something to sit up and take notice about, don’t you?”

            Actually I have a very compelling one counter-example for that. Aside from loss of smell, all c19 symptoms overlap those of common cold or flu.

            Difficulty breathing, to such an extent that you have no recourse but to seek hospital help is an overlap of the cold or flu?

            • The severe hypoxia coupled with blood clotting was something I have not seen before. This is based on my memory of past flu seasons but I’m usually very observant of severe hypoxia working in the ER.

              Oxygen saturations in the 50s and 60s on room air is very very abnormal even in flu and pneumonia.

              • So to me, this was another unique finding with this particular respiratory disease in 2019-2020. There was a little bit in 2021, but most recently whatever is called Covid now the new strain or whatever is not causing significant hypoxia. For the most part it resembles flu cases.

                I got this one and it was very much like a mild flu but I started taking Ivermectin right away and other vitamins as soon as I had a fever. It never went into my lower airways but it was still pretty nasty and I was fatigued for two weeks. I finally feel normal.

              • I am not sure how much of these could be attributed to people becoming severly ill BEFORE going to the hospital or bogus protocols applied at the hospital.

                I can only say that those people who claimed thay had covid and DIDN’T go to hospital, have had symptoms that overlap those of a serious flu, plus a few extra symptoms (no taste or smell for weeks) that are not actually novel at all, but had been present in many instances of flu before covid made his appearance.

              • I see patients at first contact in the emergency room, prior to any protocols administered at the hospital. They came in very sick, the hypoxia was profound and unusual. A few were even young. Most of the young were over weight or obese, but some not obese with no underlying health issues. This was not a large number of folks coming into the hospital I work at.

                In late 2019 and early 2020, remdisivir was not used, not where I work anyway. It was used in mid 2020 and early 2021 where I work and I gave very little of it to people. Perhaps twice. It was an emergency use drug and patients or family had to sign consent at first.

                Loss of smell and taste has persisted for months in some people. I know a young man of Asian decent who is unvaccinated who got sick twice in the last 3 years diagnosed as Covid who lost his sense of smell for months. It returned in over 6 months. Others have reported this and that as far as I know is unusual.

              • I don’t think you need to invoke the spread of a new influenza virus in the presence of:

                (a) symptoms that are already present in people with flu prior to 2019 (loss of smell) albeit in small percentage (my dad had lost his sense of smell for weeks, twice for months, over the past 20 years. And I have met other people with similar problems in my life)

                (b) symptoms that more likely to be attributed to other factors than an influenza virus (xypoxia / poisoning).

                But if you are stuck in the Germ Paradigm, you will see viruses everywhere, assume the presence of viruses where there is none of that, and do not even test your hypothesis anymore. Which is exactly what happened over the past 2 years.

              • Loss of smell for months is not something I’ve heard of prior to 2019. A poison would also need to be identified. I have not heard of anything that can cause profound hypoxia, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist though.

                I am learning more about this whole germ/terrain debate in more depth.

                The main point of contention seems to be around isolation, purification and also performing controlled experiments. I can understand how a virus or theoretical virus would not be able to live in “pure culture” if it needs to exist in living cells.

                The issue of perform controlled experiments is a good point, that the stuff they are adding to grow or culture the virus should be tested on a “blank sample” if this is even possible to see what effect it has on the blank sample cells.

                There’s a paper about the effect of bovine serum on cells that can produce micro-vessicles and terrain theory supporters say these may be misidentified as viruses. This is my take on it and I’ll post the paper here. I think it’s pretty interesting: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep31175

                I’m still researching the topic. I think that both sides have some valid points and that further research should be conducted but even then we may never know the entire picture because each organism is unique with their own genetic profile. What I think is that the germ theory folks think they have everything figured out and are pretty overconfident with what they think they know. It’s like the CRISPER fiasco, where it can cause cancer because there’s stuff we don’t know and a person isn’t a car where you have a predictable mechanisms going on.

                I think both sides could use a little humility and stop name calling and try to have less ego attachment to being right. I personally believe in transmission until there are other precise identifiable alternatives to that hypothesis. Those experiments should take place. People want to find out why they get sick so they can avoid it and treat it. People want answers and cures and treatments.

                I know that both lysine supplementation and vancyclovir has worked for my herpes, the latter a little quicker. I’m going to take what works. I took Ivermectin for Covid and it seemed to help, and I’d take it again. It’s possible it works on gut bacteria that also influence immune system and that adds a lot more complexity to the mix.

              • I also think a basic refresher course would be required for many people to even understand what the points of contention are. I have a bachelors in molecular biology and forgot much of it and never learned much genetics in depth or experimental methods of microbiology or virology and would have to learn much more than I do now to even be able to get the gist.

                What would be cool if some of the scientists in both camps could do some seminars for the public to give some background in experimental design and techniques.

                At this time, my hunch is that transmissible pathogens exist but that certain unique conditions must be met before hand that are poorly understood and predicted. This is a hunch and I don’t claim to know for sure so am not going to claim that a definitive answer has been made by either side. I also don’t think it matters as far as limiting tyranny. If unknown toxins are floating around, they could make a bio-security state around that too.

              • If so, maybe someone can convince me I’m wrong when I say, ‘Viruses exist because virologists make them with cell cultures, and they use them for vaccines’. I mean… if they haven’t got a virus, then what have they got?

                It’s complete and utter insanity that such fallacious reasoning still needs to be broken down and pointed out to people. If you really can’t make it on your own, it seems it will be inevitable that even more people than I expected will simply will have to be left behind.

              • “But if you are stuck in the Germ Paradigm, you will see viruses everywhere, assume the presence of viruses where there is none of that, and do not even test your hypothesis anymore. Which is exactly what happened over the past 2 years.”

                Not exactly for persons who are not germophobes and trust their health and immune system to take care of them. I never panicked about this nor stocked up on toilet paper and sanitizer and masks. To me it was clear that whatever was going around was not a substantial risk to my health.

                The fear porn on the media is what made people afraid, not belief in germs for many people.

                Testing hypotheses is important. I have a strong feeling that both theories explain a lot and they go hand in hand. Maybe like the particle/wave dynamic in physics.

                Echo chambers are not good though and also not trying to understand alternative hypotheses. I don’t like how conversations have been shut down by insults on both sides. It’s not productive and leads nowhere.

                I like that there were some mainstream doctors and scientists who had the “balls” to stand up to this in the beginning. I don’t think they should be viewed as enemies.

      • The ammount of logical fallaces and circular thinking in the thought space is staggering, indeed. Education seems impossible. In comparison, I don’t find the virology or vaxxology or whichever other dogma nearly as worrying.

    • What toxin(s) is(are) causing people around the world to go into detox in such a way that they exhibit symptoms that they have never experienced before in their life?

      PCR-Nose-Rape with Ethylene Oxide. One thing that is really different from the years before.
      https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1641/85/1641852410521.png
      https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1631/52/1631522854966.webm

      https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1631/52/1631524177815.webm
      > unlike anything else I’ve felt before

      https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2016-09/documents/ethylene-oxide.pdf

      But trust me. It is only trace amounts™.
      And reuters said its safe
      https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-eo-swabs-idUSL1N2LU1H0

      One other thing is:
      > Quarantine
      > isolation
      > fear
      > “YOU CAN KILL OTHERS”
      > guilt
      > this is stress

      What does stress, and nose rape do to you if you already have a cold?

      For me it is impossible to understand how people are unable to connect the dots.

      • “What toxin(s) is(are) causing people around the world to go into detox in such a way that they exhibit symptoms that they have never experienced before in their life?”

        PCR-Nose-Rape with Ethylene Oxide. One thing that is really different from the years before.

        I won’t argue that the tests could very well be harming people.
        However, it’s not the silver bullet you were looking for, to explain the Covid symptoms.

        For two and a half months, before any PCR tests were developed, people were already exhibiting Covid symptoms.

        One other thing is:
        > Quarantine
        > isolation
        > fear
        > “YOU CAN KILL OTHERS”
        > guilt
        > this is stress
        What does stress, and nose rape do to you if you already have a cold?
        For me it is impossible to understand how people are unable to connect the dots.

        To say it’s a stretch that all of those stressors are causing the exact same Covid symptoms
        is an understatement.

        • > causing the exact same Covid symptoms

          You mean flu symptoms but with the psyop
          *you can’t smell and taste*

          And people just belive this is a new thing.
          Literally with any flu or heavier cold you have these symptoms.
          Relabeling symptoms to a new disease is not science its trickery.

          Also you should really look at the headlines.
          Covid can now literally cause anything.
          From restless anal syndrom to hairloss.
          https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/restless-anus-syndrome

          https://www.self.com/story/hair-loss-after-covid

          So covid is now a umbrealla term for “Sombody is sick with something”
          Like illustrated in this ridiculous explaination of “what are actually covid symptoms”:
          https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/covid-19-cold-flu-and-allergies-differences/art-20503981

          It’s a psyop.

          • Hi, I’m asking as a matter of curiosity.
            How is Monkey Pox’s symptoms explained in terrain theory? Related question would be the supposingly gay men or frequent close skin contact transmission.
            If it is due to water or food source, won’t it be many people that share the same source having it?

            Thank you.

            • You skin does have excretion mechanisms for poisonings.

              I don’t know. But let me give some examples on how you can poison someone in such a way that they get “Pusts” or “Skin reactions”.

              For example:
              Bromism
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromism
              Brompoisoning can lead to skin irritations even when its not applied ON the skin.
              Breathed, ingested or injected is enough.

              Here is a further example for “Chickenpox prevalence correlating with arsenic exposure”:
              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4455594/

              So here I just want to establish the fact, that you can get a skin reaction without a “virus”.

              And then what can be the pathway of entry into the body?
              > maybe a syringe with mystery juice which has backstories of contamination
              > Cationic Liposiomes which are toxic
              > polysorbate-80, Phostphates and aluminium

              The mechanism of dis-ease is, a poisoning happens, and your body tries to find a way to excrete it.
              Thats all in terrain theory.
              You Body PH is fucked up, your urination will increase, somethimes vomitting and spray stool.
              I would urge you into looking into the “Monkeypox” experiments.
              https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1738-james-corbett-on-the-budding-biosecurity-state/#comment-137720

              Here I linked them. Also btw. you don’t need a replacement for a wrong theory like the “germ theory” you can just say “I don’t know”.
              Just because you have no 100% definite replacement for a bogus theory you don’t have to stick to a fraudulent theory.

              • A possible non virus method of transmission could be what Dr James Giordano or Dr Charles Morgan said in one of their talks, that they have the ability to release a poison that targets only people of certain genes.
                And this article: https://bigthink.com/life/same-sex-behavior-fruit-flies-genetics/
                talks about how gays and straight (in some cases, I suppose) may be different genetically.

            • “A possible non virus method of transmission could be what Dr James Giordano or Dr Charles Morgan said in one of their talks, that they have the ability to release a poison that targets only people of certain genes.”

              Yeah thats what they say. But I think evil is more banale, and they play with fear and pull of a monkey business illusion.

              The whole genetics topic is also tainted by fraud, and should not be “just trusted” because it’s “the science” up until recently they believed that “90% of the DNA is junk” which it is not.
              They tell you high tech stories which are just claims based on unrepeated studies.
              If you tell the people that you have a “super weapon” people will have fear.
              Fear is control.

              You know Google (actually Alphabet) is a “Vaccine Company”, right?
              They invest in “genetics” and “vaccines” and harvest a lot of data.
              https://www.bitchute.com/video/ersasTaYeC6C/

              Vaccines are the only product with which the LOT-Number is always documented.
              It’s a experiment. Saline and clotshots.
              If you are a good noodle you’ll get a good needle.
              Thats what the survailance grid is for and the “constant new rounds of vaccines”. It’s a funnel system.
              For that they don’t need your “genes” they just need your harvested data, and if you are a threat, you get asigned a bad lot.
              On https://howbad.info/ you can look into the batch numbers and their adverse event counts.
              Only 5% of all vaccine Lots are responsible for 90% of adverse events.
              This is a strong anomaly.

              • While I do find that the bad lots were delivered with intent to some areas, I don’t think the process is sufficiently grannular to work down to specific individual, especially in a vast majority of locales.

                For example, a friend of mine that got “vaccinated” can’t really be sure which “vaccine” he got these incompetent idiots administering said shots are incompetent beyond what one could imagine.

                But it does make sense that areas with less docile population would be getting killer lots.

                Even though, it goes without saying, that if you remove the more docile among less docile, who will flat out refuse to take the shot, you are left with a less docile population to begin with, you are just concentrating it.

              • It doesn’t have to be a bad vaccine delivered specially to you, a conspiracy theorist. It could be a bad lot delivered to people of a certain area that are deemed undesirable or simply it’s these people’s turn in line to get the death panel treatment.
                And the bad lot is not about killing everyone indiscriminately. It may be just a more rigorous check on the host to see if his genetic makeup is acceptable or not. Or it could be a more potent substance that has more parasite or nano chips and less saline solution among the batch.

              • Recent FOIA data dump – Vaccine Lots and Batches
                Documents are available for download.

                Thursday July 28, 2022
                ICAN Attorney Aaron Siri has recently received a data dump revolving around the Pfizer Vaccine Lots via FOIA requests (Freedom of Information Act).
                More data will be coming.

                SUB-THREAD https://www.corbettreport.com/holidayopenthread/#comment-137581

    • To your question :
      “And so I ask you what specific nutrient deficit OR chemical poisoning made people sick around the world so they exhibited the same Covid symptoms?”

      Search my comment with : ctrl+f : “07/31/2022 at 8:21 pm”
      I already answered that and illustrated it with moving pictures.

      Here I explain it.
      Also can you really say that “covid” was “one thing” or isn’t it mysterious that covid can caus “all symptoms that exist” ?

      • You must have missed this part of my reply:

        “For two and a half months, before any PCR tests were developed, people were already exhibiting Covid symptoms.”

        So scratch your PCR test swabbing theory.

    • I’m also not a believer that Covid does not exist.
      But I think just to be clear, James did not place himself in the Germs camp. He only hints from his friends’ accounts that something unique creates the Covid symptoms. That unique thing might be virus or environment related.
      Personally I think it’s a mixture of both. I guessed they released a mild version of virus or whatever new thing a self-spreading vaccine is, like Omicron first to spread easily. Because u know a deadly version doesn’t spread well.
      Then mutate it with radiation. 5G would be the best, but any other lower generation can work at a less efficient rate too. This is based on Robert Malone’s hidden research from the public.
      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0076687902460491?via%3Dihub

      • He did mention a transmissible pathogen (I think) so he believes in transmissibility which does technically put him in the “germ theory camp.” Terrain only theory (I think) claims that transmissibility is impossible.

        If I misinterpreted or misquoted please forgive me.

        • FawltyTowers has already explained it below. “It is not outside the bounds of reality”

          Btw, just want to comment that your ability to walk into the terrain theory camp and engage in discussions without causing outrage is very impressive 😉

          • I try to be diplomatic, mostly because I think it’s important to challenge dominant theories and realize how little I know. It’s what science is supposed to be about, doing experiments and figuring stuff out with the goal of helping. I know pharma and wealthy interests incentivizes researchers to study within narrow parameters.

            I think it would be cool to study how the biological terrain can stop disease, specifically. I’ve always loved biology and molecular biology and I think it’s fascinating how complex living systems are. It’s amazing really, at least to me.

            I hope that I can always retain a degree of flexibility in my thinking.

            • A good take. I recently felt I need some perspective flexibility myself.

      • “I’m also not a believer that Covid does not exist.
        But I think just to be clear, James did not place himself in the Germs camp. He only hints from his friends’ accounts that something unique creates the Covid symptoms. That unique thing might be virus or environment related.”

        Love those double negatives. ?

        This is what he said specifically:

        “I think there is some sort of novel illness out there… I do not know the causation of that illness, but a transmissible pathogen is not outside the bounds of reality, and the idea of bio-weapons that have been created specifically to cause illness in the population is not outside the bounds of reality…”

        You are right, he was very careful about the words he chose to use and while he didn’t place himself firmly in the Germ camp, he placed himself far enough into it as to upset many Terrain theorists.
        For them, any transmissible pathogen is certainly “outside the bounds of reality”.

        In any event, as I mentioned, it was nice to see James finally say something about Covid in the capacity of what could possibly be causing the illness.

        • > For them, any transmissible pathogen is certainly “outside the bounds of reality”.

          No. It’s not. There just exists no viable proof to support this claim.
          If you have on please provide it.

          Everything is possible. In therotical Phsyics you can technically make a elephant hang from cliff suspended on a single dandelion.
          Science is using the scientific method.
          Meaning:
          > you observe a natural phenomeon
          > you have a hypothesis about a variable to be the cause of the phenonon
          > you conduct a experiment in which you can and have to change the variable
          > you cunduct a valid control experiment under the same conditions without changing the variable in any or negligent way
          > the results of the experiment can now be interpreted
          > a theory arises
          > a scientific experiment must be falsifiable and therefore repeatable
          > meaning, there must be a chance of reproducing the experiment
          > and maybe getting a different result

          > origin of the universe, dark matter, vaccines, climate change and viruses
          Don’t have experiments which fulfill the criteria of applying the scientific method.
          They are almost exclusively observations and interpretations. Without a single experiment. And if they do an experiment, it is not repeatable.

          Its just:
          > observe phenomenon
          > doing statistics which is also observing
          > inventing the cause

          Let me give an example:
          > I put cookies and milk next to the christmas tree
          > next day I count the cookies and measure the milk in the glas
          > cookies are eaten and milk is drunken
          > this means
          > santa clause must be real and he ate my cookies

          There is a possibility of santa is the cause of the disappeared cookies. But then show me a santa, then show me that santa entered you home, and ate the cookies left presents and left.

          “But Santa has magic abilities, so that he is not seen, its the only explaination”

          Just “correlation vs causation”.
          Another example. You see a dead animal on the side of the street. You observe maggots eating the cadaver. The cadaver is dead. And maggots are present. Therefore the maggots are the cause of the animals death.

          • Or correlation warrants further study because there appears to be an association.

            There was a study several years back on benzodiazapines and their relationship to dementia. The correlation was strong enough that I stopped taking them.

            Similarly, the MMR vaccine and autism. Some have argued that correlation does not equal causation and that is true, but the association is strong enough to warrant concern.

            Living people and living beings and the biological processes within are not the same as a car that has very predictable mechanisms. Good for everyone to keep an open mind and also not ignore relationships that should be studied further for greater understanding.

            • MMR vaccine does not cause autism.
              Multiple vaccines with Mercury and Aluminium cause depletion of myelin, which CAN lead to autism.

              Myelin is the insulation layer of your nerves.
              It nerve poisoning.
              Thats it. Nerve poisoning can express in multiple ways.

              Asthma, Gastrointestinal problems and cognitive problems.

              The reddit/facebook “Campaign” “Vaccine causes autism” was in that way not usefull, since it only ONE of the many side effects, that is the result of nerve poisoning.

              And its causally proven and showen literally that mercury and aluminium are neurotoxic.
              So the only question is the amount.

              So the cause is there. Aluminium and Mercury are real things wich you can touch and do stuff with, you find them in nature and can isolate them, then inject them into animals and see what happens.

              This is what you can’t do with a virus.
              Because for that, you first have to find it in nature.

    • “James has finally come out and told us his stance on Covid-19.
      He clearly is in the Germ Theory camp.”

      Actually, on reconsideration, I am not sure he has put himself in the germ theory camp, if that is defined as “Sars-Cov-2 exists as a novel virus that directly causes Covd, the methods and techniques described in the literature prove the particle has been isolated and characterized and exists as a viral pathogen”. I don’t think this is what is meant when someone says they think that germs aren’t outside the realm of the possible or that some diseases appear to be contagious. It turns out that a few diseases were thought to be contagious but were nutritional deficiencies. This doesn’t mean they all are though.

      I think he supports the idea that the illness Covid exists and might be a novel disease. It could involve a transmissible pathogen and the government and wealthy interests would certainly create toxins and pathogens to maim and kill. They have revealed their intentions and motives.

      I think that people are talking about different things with this debate, the particles and then the disease. Those are very different topics, IMO.

      In fact, I think that some of the people in the “terrain camp” probably value JC’s work and it has influenced them to question evidence and look at the evidence themselves and make their own decisions of what they believe. Anyway, sorry to beat a dead horse with this. I actually think that there are some very well meaning people in both “camps” or a hybrid theory that really shouldn’t fight among themselves. The pursuit of being right and proving others wrong can be a flaw. After all, it is an ego driven pursuit if the only aim is to defeat your opponent.

      • “Actually, on reconsideration, I am not sure he has put himself in the germ theory camp, if that is defined as “Sars-Cov-2 exists as a novel virus that directly causes Covd, the methods and techniques described in the literature prove the particle has been isolated and characterized and exists as a viral pathogen”. I don’t think this is what is meant when someone says they think that germs aren’t outside the realm of the possible…”

        cu.h.j. the ‘germ theory camp’ does not define Sars-Cov-2 as you have above, including isolation etc. Some may. But not all. It’s better to simply say that the ‘germ theory camp’ believes a pathogen is capable of being transmitted between humans/animals that can cause disease. Notice I didn’t even use the word virus. It’s too contentious.

        Again this is what James said: “I haven’t had whatever it is, so I can’t say anything from my own personal experience. I can talk about people that I know personally in my real life who have had Covid, whatever that is, and who have said this is like nothing I have had before. It is not a flu. So I don’t know. Are they lying to me and why?              

          … I think there is some sort of novel illness out there… I do not know the causation of that illness, but a transmissible pathogen is not outside the bounds of reality, and the idea of bio-weapons that have been created specifically to cause illness in the population is not outside the bounds of reality…”

        We know James chooses his words carefully. He’s had 2.5 years to practice what he will say about Covid. It’s all there.

        Some terrain theorists in the discussion refuse to acknowledge what James stated. That people he knows who have had Covid told him “this is like nothing I have had before”. They won’t even concede that.

        And when James replied to Ryan’s question: “Do you believe that there is a SARS-CoV2 out there that is causing this problem?” He could have taken the ‘terrain theory’ approach and said: “I know people who have gotten sick with Covid, yada yada. It is not outside the bounds of reality that their bodies were simply undergoing a detox and no transmissible pathogen was involved.”

        His response was clearly leaning much more to the germ theory side than the terrain theory side.

        Finally, I’d like to repeat what I’ve said here many times. I have an open mind about this. I am prepared to adopt the terrain theory, if various questions that I have about diseases are answered in a convincing fashion. So far the answers to my questions remain unconvincing to me.
         

        • Fair enough. I think I’m being a bit more open minded about an alternative hypothesis or toxin or genetic/toxin interaction. None has been identified and studied as far as I know.

          The phenomenon of contagion rather than the specifics of virus isolation and characterization are why people believe germ theory has some validity, at least this is why I think that some things can be passed on under certain conditions. There is something to this phenomenon. If germ theory is wrong, that particles can’t be transmitted that can contribute to disease, another precise mechanism needs to be identified, IMO. I think this is where terrain theory promoters should focus some of their attention now.

          I find it interesting that the notion of a germ is so outlandish to some people though, that sometimes something acts like a germ or toxin. Why is that not possible? I get the questionable evidence presented, with the inability to show transmission and such, but the idea itself as a theory to me is not outlandish. I mean we did evolve from smaller molecules, maybe these particles are how we evolve, or communicate on a chemical level.

          Personally, I want treatments and cures. I don’t like to be sick. When I get sick, I want it to go away as quickly as possible. I’ll even take tylenol and ibuprofen for a fever to get rid of it.

          I do think environmental toxins make health worse and do make people sick. That is swept under the rug by the “health authorities”

        • Terrain theory proponents do believe in germs afaik. But only the big ones.

          • You mean like bacteria?

            I don’t think they allow for any organism/pathogen to be passed from
            person to person that causes illness/disease.

            • Yeah, I think you’re right that they think the bacteria are not causing the disease but allowed to proliferate from a disease state. Not precisely sure though.

              This may be partly true in a sick person where bacterial diseases are more common. Or another example if someone takes antibiotics and they kill off their intestinal flora, the other bacteria can proliferate and lead to disease.

              I’ve had bacterial infections like ear infections and my wisdom teeth surgery got infected and I needed the antibiotics. Whatever therapy for my terrain that may have been available, I’m not sure it would resolve my symptoms quick enough.

              Speaking of antibiotics though, they are really only something that should be used as a last resort and have lead to antibiotic resistant bacteria. I like knowing I can get rid of a bacteria if it becomes a problem.

              I do like terrain theory though and I don’t think I really know enough about it to speak intelligently on the concepts.

              I’d definitely be interested in trying some of the remedies though. I have taken Chinese traditional medicine and done other non western medical treatments and some of them have been very helpful.

  3. Hey mkey, something has changed.
    Did you do something on your side or is this on the WordPress side?

    Recall that after I made a post and I went in to edit it within the 5 minutes allowed, your formatting tools would be lost.

    Just now I went in to edit my post and the tools were still there!

  4. Good discussion, goys. I already watched/listened to this on Rokfin because I am based & redpilled, tho.

  5. Regarding population reduction and its purpose, on one hand it must be easier to control, let’s say 1 billion, than to control 8.

    But beside this, in my opinion, the key element to this tenet of the NWO ideology is that it’s also a social engineering strategy to fully control the birth rate as well as the product of a birth, which is of course the individual, like the production output of a factory. Let’s not forget that one aim of technocracy is to run civilization more or less like a large corporation.

    If my hypothesis is correct, this strategy is presented to the masses under a step-by-step model, currently at the “dangers of unchecked population growth” phase, for people to eventually accept the unthinkable: a society composed of individuals artificially created in production plants, probably sexless and already partly non-organic.

    A transhumanistic dream.

  6. Just a little rectification regarding the BBC News article (Human species ‘may split in two’) mentioned at around 44:40.

    The “genetic upgrade” referred to therein isn’t the result of any engineering as it was suggested in the podcast. Instead, it’s presented as the outcome of a process of natural selection. Interestingly, the article actually states that relying too much on tech will weaken the human race in the mid to long run.

    So even if it is obvious that there is a desire to shape the human species at will, since such aspiration isn’t even hidden, using this article as an evidence could easily backfire. Detractors would happily use this incorrect interpretation to smear what is otherwise a valid denunciation.

    • “… in 10,000 years time humans may have paid a genetic price for relying on technology.

      There could also be health problems caused by reliance on medicine, resulting in weak immune systems. Preventing deaths would also help to preserve the genetic defects that cause cancer…”

      It’s absolutely true they didn’t outright specify eugenical social engineering through deliberate poisoning via synthesized food, pharma and forced injections with experimental mRNA tech et al under false pretences.

      When they say:“… the London School of Economics expects a genetic upper class and a dim-witted underclass to emerge…”

      they didn’t say “genetically superior, informed and machiavellian Super-class” or “technocratic overlords” and “lethargic and hypnotized masses of sheeple people”.

      or when they say “…Spoiled by gadgets designed to meet their every need, they could come to resemble domesticated animals…”

      they didn’t say “deliberately spoiled by gadgets designed to meet their every forcibly indoctrinated need they could come to ressemble domesticated animals by design.

      The London School of Economics was suggesting it would all just occur naturally in our natural world through natural mating and utterly voluntary and non-coercive consumption of technology by dummies who can’t read a “use with moderation” warning label and read between the lines.

      • Oh no, sarcasm…

        So you would happily present that article to an open mind and then explain while displaying your distorted quotations that this is what should be understood when one knows how to “read between the lines”. Even when, for instance, the article actually warns against the adverse effects of a pervasive technology.

        I’m afraid you wouldn’t be taken seriously and rightly so: yours are speculations that you try to paint as facts. Moreover, you would fuel the tinfoil hat caricature.

        Mistaking beliefs for truths is a blunder I witness unfortunately too often in the community of alternative research. This typically discredits what is usually in all other respects a sincere effort to share dangerous covert information. It’s ok to have beliefs, we all have our own. But we must make the difference between those and what is tangible.

        PS: Next time you disagree with another commentator, make the effort to not be rude.

        • Everything you say is absolutely correct.

  7. He’s a silly, nasty old eugenics loving Nazi, just like his royal family comrades.

    “Humans are a plague on the Earth that need to be controlled by limiting population growth, according to Sir David Attenborough.

  8. Thank you for this interview James.
    But Since you are undecided, on “Germ Theory” and have questions like:
    “My friends got covid, and said they never felt something like this ever before?”

    And also you should think about the “Attention” to which symptoms you should “look” is really important for this aspect.

    Also this time we did one thing, that we never did before, we did a invasive testing procedure with a plastic stick that is rammed up your nose while its dripping ethylene oxide.

    And then also the stress “You have to quarantine for two weeks”. You have to “isolate, you are a danger to others”. Those are all factors with make a disease worse. No infection required. Just stress and poisoning and physical trauma in you respiratory path ways.

    I would really urge you to get in contact with Dr. Andrew Kaufman or Dr. Jordan Grant to talk about the whole Germ theory issue.
    This is a important conversation to have, especcialy because those topic are heavily involved with “How Big Oil Conquered the world” and the flexner report and the whole topic of eugenics. (Jonas Salk produce the polio vax, which caused the cutter incident, and coincidentally he also was a Eugenicist)

    Please dig into this topic, and watch these:
    https://odysee.com/@DrAndrewKaufman:f/Science_Pseudoscience_and_The_Germ_Theory_of_Disease_Dr_Jordan_Grant:0

    This video disects every mayor disease study:
    https://odysee.com/@spacebusters:c9/Final-The-End-of-Germ-Theory:8

    Also you have to look into DDT and Paris Green.
    Especcially during the 1920s-1960s.
    And wierdly “Rockefeller” is involved.
    And they have every reason to decieve us, since… always I guess…
    You know: “the invisible boogeyman”.

  9. QUESTION:
    Do plant viruses exist?

    • I think you’ll never convince folks who are dead certain (for some reason) that viruses don’t exist that any evidence suggesting the contrary is viable or convincing. So the following link I dug up in two minutes is probably essentially worthless for any argumentative intents and purposes but it made me giggle:

      https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0060621

      Another paper on the subject published in Nature (you have to add “https//www.”):

      nature.com/articles/s41598-020-67023-4

      Now I’m off to go buy some cigs! 8-))

      • Those papers are not in the least proof that “virus” exist.

        Viruses are as they would claim:

        “Non living lipid phages, with dna and rna in it, with no metabolisem, hijacks cells then inject rna and dna to replicate, which makes cells die and produce more virus”.

        This this single claim, never ever once has been proven.
        They show a STILL photograph of a Electron Micorsope analysis of dead cells.
        And then invent the cause of the cell death.
        Of a poisoned cell culture with genetic contaminants and cancer cells.

        And if any of these cells dies. They just claim the “particles they see in the electron microscope are the virus which killed the cell” when in fact, the literall poisoning of cells are the cause. And then they don’t even filter the single particle which they claim is the “virus” they gene sequence the whole culture. With “””AI””” of course.

        Your papers don’t show anything.
        Give me your favorite proof that a virus is the cause of a disease, and not a mere artifact of dead tissue.

        Show me a virus Isolation with the following methology:
        > have infected host
        > isolate virus without poisoning the cell cultures
        > or isolate and purify it in vivo (just like bacteriophages which have the same size as viruses)
        > then take the virus and insert it in a conventional way (orally or breathed in)
        > not injecting into the brain, no parallel medication with opiates
        > and after the infection the animal presents the same symptoms
        > then you have indeed proven that the virus is the cause of a disease

        If you can show me a study that does all that I am happy.

        Viruses might exist. but are not the cause of disease.
        They are a artifact of cell poisoning and messengers. But do not fly through the air or stick on surfaces. They never isolated from aerosols, saliva or surfaces only isolated via double cell culture poisoning and starving the cell cultures.
        “If the cell dies it means virus confirmed”. This is always the methology without a proper control group.
        https://odysee.com/@notanotherbrick:f/Science,-Pseudoscience,-and-The-Germ-Theory-of-Disease—Dr.:2

        • Perseus says:
          “Those papers are not in the least proof that “virus” exist.”

          Perseus, That’s her point…“worthless for any argumentative intents and purposes but it made me giggle:”

          She’s having fun. I am too.

          Covid-19 & TOBACCO
          Just so you know…
          Back in the early ALARMIST days of the Pandemic, France “banned” tobacco products because tobacco might help ward off Covid-19.
          SUB-THREAD – https://www.corbettreport.com/are-you-prepared-for-the-infodemic/#comment-79860

      • Interesting, gonna read it when I get home from work. Incidentally, I chew nicotine gum. I like nicotine in small doses for anxiety. My lungs can’t tolerate smoking and not much vaping either, but I like the gum.

        Thanks for posting this.

      • NSR,
        I am so relieved to find out…
        “… Smokers had a higher level of serum anti-TMV (Tobacco mosaic virus ) IgG antibodies than non-smokers…
        …People who smoke cigarettes or other tobacco products experience a lower risk of developing Parkinson’s disease, but the mechanism by which this occurs is unclear. Our results showing molecular mimicry between TMV and human TOMM40L raise the question as to whether TMV has a potential role in smokers against Parkinson’s disease development. The potential mechanisms of molecular mimicry between plant viruses and human disease should be further explored.

        😉

        Thanks for this piece of scientism.

        I sure have a lot of nicotinic-choline receptors in my system, that’s for sure.

        • X-)

          Wait ’til you read the article explaining how plant viruses are positively awesome as vaccine adjuvants!!

          X-) X-)

          anytime you need some hardcore scientism you know where to find me!!

          X-))

          • I’m all grins.

            Shortly after my post, I did read the second link which highlighted adjuvants using plant viruses. I found it interesting.

            Coincidently, just yesterday I had read about the new Novavax
            Vaccine
            with its Matrix-M adjuvant.

            Matrix-M adjuvant contains a “soapy” substance from a tree bark, and evidently an insect virus along with other foreign stuff to be used directly into the human blood system.
            Novavax Vaccine Contains 1 mcg Armyworm and Baculovirus Proteins Injected into you with Each Dose
            https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/novavax-vaccine-contains-1-mcg-armyworm-and-baculovirus-proteins-injected-into-you-with-each-dose/

            • Apparently it has insect DNA too. The movie The Fly comes to mind.

              • OMG cu.h.j.!!

                I’ve been thinking so much about that movie!!

                The discouraging transformations of menopause and what appears to be the horrifying onset of vitiligo

                conjure visions of Jeff Goldblum voraciously vomiting donuts before re-injesting them

                as he growls at Geena Davis to get out! Before it’s too late!!

                Then there’s that appalling horror movie Splice:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjZladsjWqM

                crispr and crispr…

            • You migt be Interested in all the ingredients:
              https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1650/36/1650368524529.png

              The Novavax is awesome.
              > TL;DR

              > you’ll get injected with moth cells that “carry spike protein”
              > which are “emulsfied” by polysobate 80 (which increases absobtion of heavy metals and is toxic)
              > and has a adjuvant “Matix-M”
              > which is derived from soap bark trees
              > from which we know that even ingested cause problems
              > injected is mysteryland

              And of course together injected with a shitton of phosphate and potassium which can cause a alkalic shock which can result in fever, vomiting and diareha
              It’s lovely.
              The “virus” you get injected with is just the monkey business illusion. The distraction from the reactive “Excipients”.
              https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/product-information/nuvaxovid-epar-product-information_en.pdf

              This shot is in the least a strong irritant and in the worst a poison.

          • The Canadians are researching the use of plants to administer vaccines to the public. Not sure how they will control the dose.

            https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid-19-research-edible-vaccine-plants-tomato-lettuce-mucosal-immunity-1.5626484

            Excerpt:
            “That’s the hope of a plant biologist at the University of Ottawa who’s working to create an edible vaccine for the novel coronavirus.

            “Allyson MacLean’s research involves injecting tomato, potato and lettuce plants with a tiny particle of viral DNA swimming in a bacterial solution.

            “We take a syringe that does not have a needle point. You press it up against the large leaf … and you basically push … the bacteria into the plant tissues,” said MacLean, 41, an assistant professor of plant biology.

            “The bacteria piggyback that DNA into the plant, which triggers the production of viral proteins. Eating the plant allows these proteins to pass through the digestive system, where they’re taken up by special cells in the gut, stimulating a type of immunity.”

            • Very interesting.

              JEP and his “what could possibly go right?” quip comes to mind.

      • Vitiligo

        I briefly touch on Vitiligo here…
        https://www.corbettreport.com/summer-open-thread-2/#comment-112439

        This fella of hispanic heritage would come into the Vitamin department and often buy a box of the supplement (SAMe) s-adenosylmethionine. (Also called S-adenosyl methionine or S-Adenosyl-L-methionine.)

        SAMe is not cheap. It is a very expensive supplement. So, I walked over to him and politely asked why he was taking it. He showed me his hand and forearm with Vitiligo. The lighter skin patches against the brown background was evident.
        The fella told me that SAMe reverses the condition. He had done it before.

        For months and months, everytime I spotted him in the store, I would go over and look at his hand. Sure enough…The Vitiligo was definitely and noticably dissipating.

        I had the vendor ‘comp’ me some SAMe and tried it for a period of time just to experiment. I did notice a better mood feeling.

        Anyway, this was one of those anecdotal observations in life that “stick”.

        I think that one might possibly be able to aquire the benefits of SAMe through other means, such as other supplements and eggs, meat, and sulfur vegs.
        I don’t want to get into the weeds with “methylation” and sulfur and such. But I do take the methyl form of B-12 and I also have the supplement methionine, N-acetyl cysteine (NAC), along with many other supplements. I often take NAC.

        • I use this off and on for depression and joint pain. Works very well for joint pain. It’s probably good for the liver too, which is a plus. I had to stop drinking in excess to tolerate it though due to stomach irritation. With minimal alcohol consumption, I can take this again. I think it’s good stuff, but yes expensive.

          • Ok! I thought HRS might have something to propose on that subject! And if cu.h.j. has tried it (the SAM?), I’ll try to get my hands on some, see what happens.

            I’ve got NAC on my shelf. It is soooooo acid, I hate to take it but, it helped me feel better fast during a flu in early April. so, could give it a try too.

            Thanks guys!

            • It’s called SAMe and it is expensive and can be hard on the stomach. I sometimes take it on a full stomach even though the directions say empty stomach. I have had bad gastritis so have to be careful. I had ulcers once related to H-Pylori infection, which is now gone.

    • There are plant disorders that are called viruses and they even say what causes them. Often, a plant will have a “virus” because of poor conditions for the plant. A wonderful example is roses.

      There are rose societies and local rose societies, not (just) because these prickly plants are so popular alone, but that through so much hybridization, you have plants that are more cane than root. The key to growing roses and getting them to bloom properly and dependably is during the growth and right up to bloom, you must flood water past the canes to encourage root growth and water uptake.

      The reason this causes problems is a lot of roses are from certain areas and when conditions change, they may not adapt the same. Their bloom seasons may be interrupted. But also, a rose in Virginia may not do so well in the heat of Florida.. The result is a plant that is stressed by conditions being flooded with the necessary amount of water to get proper blooms can lead to powdery mildew or rust. Thsee are common ailments. The mildew is attributed to the plant being susceptible, but the rust and yellowing and destruction of canes can be attributed to viruses.

      BUT, who had ever seen these viruses? (Who has seen DNA?) There is a level of assumption.

      To me, either way, the plant has issues due to being in a bad situation, causing the plant an inability to ward off pests and “disease”.

      Another example I know about from an interesting perspective is Dwarf Loblolly Pines. There is a small line of them at the NCSU Arboretum having been “discovered” by JC Raulston, a major horticulturalist with a specialization in conifers.

      You know when you cut a tree sometimes you get new growth that is small and spidery and may criss-cross itself with a lot of small branches? That too has been attributed to a virus I don’t know the name of.

      Apparently the dwarf loblolly pine was cloned from the “virus” part of a loblolly pine tree.

      The resulting trees are quite lovely, they look like things drawn on Chinese silk art. I had heard that at some point theee trees, or part of them, had reverted back to normal growth.

      *Another fun fact I learned having nothing to do with viruses, but a lot of dwarf conifers are not. They just grow significantly more slowly on cold northwest coast than in southeast heat and humidity. Maybe not all, but many conifers assumed to have been dwarf turned out not to be.

      Just to say, we live and learn by sharing information. It occurred to me that I was being told this information about where the dwarf pines came from and the truth about dwarf conifers in a somewhat “it goes no further” hushed way.

      Surely arborists, landscape professionals and nurseries had invested in the dwarf conifer craze of the long-ago 1980/1990s.

  10. I, for one, despise trendy speak like “Terrain Theory” because you never define what you are having problems with or supporting, an assumption is made about sides and mostly like to read people who speak plainly.

    It’s not a matter of my understanding or not, it’s that it creates an “I know” situation where anyone not trending with news speak will find themselves turned off.

    I only speak from personal perspective.

    • I am as tired of the virus (germ) versus terrain debate as I am of pandemics.

      There is a TED talk that left a big impression on me:
      https://www.ted.com/talks/bonnie_bassler_how_bacteria_talk?language=en

      “Bonnie Bassler discovered that bacteria “talk” to each other, using a chemical language that lets them coordinate defense and mount attacks. The find has stunning implications for medicine, industry — and our understanding of ourselves.”

      As far as bacteria and disease go, it seems that a level of pathogenic bacteria do not necessarily cause illness (necessary but not sufficient); they might even serve a beneficial purpose. At some point, likely because of the terrain, they may cause disease.

      • > they may cause disease.
        Then please go a ahead and show you favourite scientific experiment which fulfills Kochs postulate or in the least the rules of the scientific method.

        > microbe is found in abundance in diseased animals and only in diseased animals
        > microbes cause always the same disease in a different host
        > microbes are then isolated again are isolated from the new host
        > to show that these are now there and were not there before and cause the disease

        This could never be shown to be true neither with funghi, bacteria or viruses.

        In every infection experiment in which they sprayed a concentrated purified solution with the micro organism in nose, eyes and even injected it and it never ever did once cause the same symtpoms and in the most cases no symptoms at all.

        For example
        https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/EXPERIMENTS-TO-DETERMINE-MODE-OF-SPREAD-OF-Rosenau/40e4027b4d2f0b9b26a963f10022ea79ffed84e4
        The Rosenau experiment of the transmissability of the Spanish flu.

        They sprayed 100 sodliers necrotic tissue and saliva and snot into eyes, nose and mouth, injected it and also forced them to get coughed on and breathing the breath of terminally ill influanza patients.
        NONE not a single one got sick.

        “In February 1919, Navy doctors on Goat Island (now Yerba Buena Island) in San Francisco Bay deliberately tried to infect 50 young sailors with influenza. The volunteers were given “jars of flu germs which they breathed into their lungs, they had flu germs injected into their bodies.” Not one of them became infected
        https://venturamuseum.org/research-library-blog/flu-fighters-the-1918-flu-pandemic-in-oxnard/

        And I can go on and on and on.
        I would really urge you look into this:
        https://odysee.com/@spacebusters:c9/Final-The-End-of-Germ-Theory:8

        They disected every single mayor disease study. Every. And 90% of them are literally abuse of animals and the rest showed negative results.
        For example, to prove that Polio is a virus they got the dried spine cord or feces polio diseased children, grinded it up, mixed it with sand and injected it into baby mice. To be accurate in the brain.
        And one died, and the other one got Brain inflamation.
        This proves that polio is caused by a virus.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2135891/pdf/567.pdf

        Page 568

  11. Awesome interview! I have listened to it twice already.

  12. Soylent Green will become the new food.

  13. UK Funeral Director John O Looney has said that miscarriages are way up and suggest as high as 74% of vaxxed women miscarry in Australia, according to his source. Also that new contracts issued by hospitals in UK to undertakers to deal with the uptick.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/UcjiPEvVqY1f/

  14. Listening to the bit on monkey pox I hear
    A)It is almost exclusively spread by sex with homosexual men
    B)it is clearly NOT easily passed on since gay men have not spread it massively the bus or such
    C) two kids caught it by ‘close contact’ with “relatives”

    Obviously letting your kids near people who have unprotected sex with strangers is not wise… such behavior is especially prevalent among the “men who have sex with men” community.

    Keep kids away from degenerates

    • You’ll sometimes never know though who might be having sex with strangers, since there are a lot of hetero-sexuals who do this too. Though, this is more common, “hypersexuality” among gay men in particular, does occur in straight people too.

      You can’t always judge a book by it’s cover, just look at Ted Bundy. He was pretty handsome and charming, but he was as degenerate as they come.

      Regarding monkey pox, I think it might have something to do HIV or immune compromise from that or the jabs and/or a combo of meds this community might be taking. I can be completely wrong too. But a lot of gay men take anti-retrovirals so they can have unprotected sex and avoid HIV.

      So far there have been no cases of monkey pox at the hospital I work at. I’ve never seen it.

      • Cu.h.j
        “..You can’t always judge a book by it’s cover, just look at Ted Bundy. He was pretty handsome and charming, but he was as degenerate as they come…”

        Thats true, not all degenerates out themselves as openly, we should be thankful when they DO clearly signal that we should avoid them.

        What worries me today is how few people actually DO get disgusted by hyper-sexuality or porn use. Its analogous to a person loosing the instinct to avoid vomit or turds and then wondering why they got sick….. kinda like societal AIDS i guess

        “….But a lot of gay men take anti-retrovirals so they can have unprotected sex and avoid HIV. …”
        People…. 🙂

  15. Hello I just listend to this. How do I find local protest? How does a person be apart of a protest or hear about them locally?

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