Episode 320 – Echoes of WWI: China, the US, and the Next “Great” War

by | Sep 22, 2017 | Podcasts | 41 comments

In the early 20th century, the world’s dominant superpower looked warily on the rise of a competitor to its supremacy. The machinations of the British to contain the rise of Germany led inexorably to the First World War. Once again in the early 21st century, the world’s dominant superpower is looking warily on the rise of a competitor. Will the American Empire’s machinations to contain the rise of China lead to the Third World War? Or is the American/Chinese conflict another engineered conflict for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many? Join James Corbett as he presents “Echoes of World War I” to the Open Mind Conference in Copenhagen, Denmark.

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Documentation

Memorandum on the Present State of British Relations with France and Germany
Time Reference: 03:38

 

Next Stop for the Steve Bannon Insurgency: China
Time Reference: 05:11

 

Steve Bannon: ‘We’re going to war in the South China Sea … no doubt’
Time Reference: 05:22

 

On China by Henry Kissinger
Time Reference: 08:52

 

Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides’s Trap?
Time Reference: 10:15

 

China Just Overtook The US As The World’s Largest Economy
Time Reference: 17:19

 

Nato’s Global Expansion – Rick Rozoff on GRTV
Time Reference: 23:27

 

World Military Spending (2013)
Time Reference: 25:49

 

Gadaffi Addresses Oxford University
Time Reference: 31:31

 

How Big Oil Conquered The World
Time Reference: 34:46

 

China Sends Its First Train From Beijing To London
Time Reference: 35:58

 

China opens first overseas base in Djibouti
Time Reference: 36:12

 

The Invasion of 1910
Time Reference: 37:44

 

A Novel About War With China Strikes a Chord at the Pentagon
Time Reference: 40:46

 

The Coming China Wars
Time Reference: 43:52

 

Memories, by Admiral of the fleet, Lord Fisher
Time Reference: 48:42

 

Admiral Says He Would Launch A Nuclear Strike On China If Trump Ordered It
Time Reference: 49:21

 

China’s New World Order: Gold-backed oil benchmark on the way
Time Reference: 52:51

 

Hidden History, The Secret Origins of the First World War
Time Reference: 59:56

 

China and the New World Order
Time Reference: 1:01:02

 

WW1 German soldier recalls moment he bayoneted foe to death
Time Reference: 01:03:03

 

Executed WW1 soldiers to be given pardons
Time Reference: 1:10:15

41 Comments

  1. Dang! Send the Video Editor a bonus check! This playback is so smooth! …without the technical difficulties which interrupt the flow of thought.

    On 9/18, Palmer Harsanyi says: Thanks for your talk in Copenhagen! Nice to have had the opportunity to shake hands with you and thank you for your giants amount of work, for the benefit of humanity….
    https://www.corbettreport.com/solutions-stop-using-youtube/#comment-43742

    9/17 – I caught some of the original…
    https://www.corbettreport.com/solutions-stop-using-youtube/#comment-43714

    • 9/18 Pablo de Boer says:
      …Your presentation yesterday on WW I @ the Open Mind Conference was for my person very mind expanding and with some typical señor James eye openers. It is always a pleasure for me when you voluntarily give us an insight of your knowledge and wisdom. When you señor James share the results of the interactions of your brain-cells with other senses of yours on what is happening in our world, this always leads for me to an euphoria in my brains and stimulates my common senses. When your person shares your thoughts with us, for my person it feels like having a seventh sense. Also how your answered the questions of the audience were brilliant with a typical señor James touch.. Yesterday my own brain cells were dancing Salsa and Bachata at once due to your excellent independent work señor James….
      https://www.corbettreport.com/solutions-stop-using-youtube/#comment-43724

  2. Sept 5, 2017 VIDEO (9 1/2 minutes) by James Corbett
    China’s New World Order: Gold-backed oil benchmark on the way
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geWnRz1XBTw

    …and…
    Episode 297 – China and the New World Order
    https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-297-china-and-the-new-world-order/
    Military tensions, cyber espionage accusations, a brewing currency war; with every passing day, the headlines paint a convincing portrait of an emerging cold war between China and the West. But is this surface level reality the whole picture, or is there a deeper level to this conflict? Is China an opponent to the New World Order global governmental system or a witting collaborator with it? Join us in this in-depth edition of The Corbett Report…

  3. I make a conscious effort of never allowing myself to be accused of being a brown noser… however… that was the greatest lecture I have ever experienced.

  4. History does repeat itself. The graphs and charts are what gives Carrol Quigley’s book Tragedy and Hope such an appealing draw to the mind numming facts.300 pages cover the multitude of treaties and compacts that if the general populace new of would have stopped any envolement in support for any war. I don’t know if Americans are so keen on King and country as the Queens subjects are but we are equally susceptible to other forms of propaganda tailored for our unique attatuides. Public schools are just gateways to millitary service and at the same time millitary service offer’s a gateway to education. However for most, the contract young people sign doesn’t turn out to be the contract delivered. James comes thur brilliantly in the end and can only wish it could penetrate the patriotic brainwashing that blinds most around Joklahoma to that history ,of mind numming facts, that would keep a normal, sane person from supporting another war.
    James will someday tell us ,in just as scholarly a fashion ,the role of Zionism,French Rothchilds-Chinese financial connections and the role Israelis have and will play in the machinations leading to
    WW-III. Until then we can fill the comment section with all the possible reasons why no mention at all of the real culprits exists. There is the 3 hundred pound gorilla in the room. I hope the listeners can appreciate the clever and articulate way you danced around the topic without steping on the gorrillas toes.
    Last of all James you could improve on your appearance. Pilato said something that has stuck with me ,sometime back, great people discuss ideas while weak people discuss the person, or something along that line. I deplored the troll comments about your appearance, no offense mate, I want to send you ,in the kindest of motivations, a new tie and sweater for Boxing day. It must have been cool in Denmark the evening of your presentation. Red may be your favorite color but friends don’t let friends go around with the barndoor open. Visual images count like bitcoin, like proper grammar or spelling. It may be of no matter or concern to you and that’s fine but you where on stage and visually it was fungswhaf mickyficky…

  5. Corbett shows some tea leaves at the 13:47 mark of Echoes of WWI: China, the US, and the Next “Great” War .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6dOPMgdjLo&feature=youtu.be&t=13m47s

    In my opinion the tea leaves highlight two extremely important “similarity aspects”
    RESOURCE COMPETITION
    and
    TRADE COMPETITION
    Corbett discusses them starting around 29:48
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6dOPMgdjLo&feature=youtu.be&t=29m48s

    I believe that the “American Dominance Neocon-type Agenda” faction will not stand by silent when it comes to dominating “resource” and “trade”.

    On the flip side, we live in an era where Big Boys chase the buck and to heck with any national allegiance.

  6. My dear Texifino friend , you have made A very good observation however , the big boys are given access to the crumbs that the bigger boys( who are invisible to the rest of us) then trickle down crumbs to our level. The Rockefeller men don’t want to be seen, heard, or will they tolerate being made public. We can track their movements after the fact with graphs and news headlines but generally as you say “big boys chase the bucks and to heck with… ” everything except being invited to the Rockefeller mans table.
    An inlaw Im aware of, works for Winthopes Rockefeller foundation and works tireless (60hrs) week cataloging every speck of the High- resolution satellite pictures of his sectors that he manages . He must go and confirm vast mineral inventories, so he travels alot. He is so brainwashed there is no reaching him, he thinks it good sustainable ,healthy work for the planet ,mother nature needs help, like his, to survive. I ask him who shares this info? He said the men in the governments that are Rockefeller men with the same desire to protect the earth as his boss. Now tell me what happens to miners and peasants who claim the land you are in charge of from 7 miles up? This question made him so uncomfortable he couldn’t’t respond. Now Im not invited to Christmas anymore. So the point i would like to make is we are the Rockefeller mans biggest fear. Should we use the law to right the ship of state like they did to gain control? That would make us no better than themselves. The standing by crowd you mentioned need us, however the Rockefeller men really don’t need the big boys until we start acting in our own interests. What to do? I think Im going to not show up for the next Rockefeller man war if posible and keep spreading the word about who is doing the inventories and who gets access to those inventories. Bless T.C.U. THIS weekend.

    • You ole Sooner bottle washer,
      That is a very interesting “Rockefeller” tidbit. Thanks for sharing.
      I think you are square on.

  7. Panel Discussion – Open Mind Conference 2017
    Ole Dammegård, James Corbett, Max Igan, Hugh Newman, Carine Hutsebaut, Mette Mitchell and Frank Rasmussen
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5BFn7K-Y2g

    WEBSITE – https://www.openmindconference.com/

    (By the way, as James Corbett was preparing to go on with his talk, Echoes of WWI: China, the US, and the Next “Great” War, there was a blonde guy playing the guitar. He was good. Nice music. I enjoyed it.)

  8. I found most interesting that tidbit about how unadorned males supporting the war effort by other means than dying in the trenches and having their eyeballs eaten by huge rats were issued badges as to prevent being marked or shamed as cowards.

    I knew of the white feather thing and that’s one of those bits of information that really sticks and one has to ponder over it for a while. The badge tidbit makes the entire deal that much more ridiculous.

    That kind of social pressure mush have been beyond comprehensible.

    First World War and Suffrage Blood and Shame
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEjy1UszV8s

  9. Hi James,
    last year I read an interesting scenario of a conflict US/China.
    => “Twilight’s Last Gleaming” by John Michael Greer.
    Very good read, well thought through and researched.
    It starts with Africa as you also suggested.
    Check it out.
    //BR

  10. Finally got around to watching this one. Worth the wait! As for the Battle of Copenhagen, I am one of those who had been completely ignorant of that one. And here I sit with my state approved MLA in history. Shame, shame, shame. Of course, having just gotten out of the military, I had made it a point to study as little war as possible. While I’m sure no one knows what this war will look like, I’m pretty sure it will be far worse than we can imagine. Of course, if it does happen, then the eradication of our species would be a good thing that would be well-deserved. We should know better by now. There is no excuse anymore. When you get down to the brass tacks of it all; it isn’t the fault of our so-called leaders. It’s our fault. We pay attention to them and do as they ask. It makes as much sense as obeying the crazy guy yelling at the demons in the street, but hey; we are so smart aren’t we?

  11. – Early November 2017 –
    (It should be noted that for about 2 years, oil prices have remained in a lower range, relatively stagnant. In recent weeks/months, oil prices have started to climb out of the stagnation.)

    Nov 4 2017 – Shocking Purge & Arrests by Prince Salman
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-04/shocking-purge-saudi-king-arrests-billionaire-prince-bin-talal-others-anti-money-lau

    Nov 7 2017 – Saudi Arabia says Lebanon declared war
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-06/verge-catastrophe-saudi-arabia-says-lebanon-declared-war

    ~~~~
    My thoughts…
    Could this be an aspect to the “Next Great War”?
    We are seeing this joint faction of U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc. nations aggressively asserting control.

    …and going further, but with speculation…
    the Russia demonization & Trump
    Could Trump actually had been “a silent part” of the anti-Russia PsyOp Campaign? It really would be a beautifully designed PsyOp.
    You feed it to the Liberal media who take the bait. Trump, all along knows it is a ruse and doesn’t mind the heat. It helps to fulfill the Big Agenda.
    But regardless of whether or not Trump was a part of the anti-Russia PsyOp, probably doesn’t matter. The anti-Russia PsyOp helps to move the ball down the field.

    • More on Saudi Arabia – Nov 8 & 9
      (It should be noted that Trump is in east Asia this week.)

      by South Front (an open source type news format)
      The Saudi Purge: The Middle East Is On The Verge Of New War
      https://southfront.org/the-saudi-purge-the-middle-east-is-on-the-verge-of-new-war/
      VIDEO(4 1/2 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgjBnpTLKgw
      EXCERPT
      A missile gets fired on the Saudi capital. A missile, which was allegedly built in Iran and smuggled to Yemen, just to be fired at Saudi Arabia.
      According to initial reports, two Saudi princes died back to back in 24 hours: one in an “accidental” helicopter crash, the other during a firefight that broke out while security forces were trying to arrest him. On November 7, Saudi Arabia’s information ministry spokesman said that “Prince Abdulaziz is alive and well”. However, the prince could not be independently reached for comment by the media.
      Other high-ranking members of the establishment and the royal family — the two tend to be one and the same in Saudi Arabia — get arrested on charges of corruption, with their bank accounts frozen.
      Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri unexpectedly resigns after he was summoned to Riyadh by his Saudi-backers.
      Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia accused Iran of conducting acts of “direct military aggression” and accused Lebanon of “declaring war” on Riyadh by allowing Hezbollah “aggression” against the kingdom.
      All this happened in a span of just a few days.
      With ever-growing security challenges and problems at the regional level, the crisis that took hold of Saudi Arabia does not seem to be slowing down.
      One contributing factor to the ongoing crisis is a major split in the Saudi royal family: the power struggle that resulted in the former crown prince being deposed and replaced with a new one, a move that shook things up quite a bit inside the country. The echo of this can be seen in the current “anti-corruption” persecution, enforced by the current Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman.

  12. Nov 21, 2017 – OilPrice.com
    U.S. Authorities Arrest Two On Major Energy Corruption Scheme
    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/US-Authorities-Arrest-Two-On-Major-Energy-Corruption-Scheme.html
    EXCERPT
    …The most interesting part of the affair, however, is the alleged participation of CEFC, the rising star of the Chinese—and international—energy scene. CEFC is widely seen as a kind of mysterious company that has close ties to the Chinese government and plays a key part in President Xi Jinping’s Belt and Road international expansion plan, according to observers.

    The company recently invested US$9.1 billion in a stake in Rosneft and it has also spent heavily on oils storage capacity and transport infrastructure at home. While the company is private, it is said it is run like a state entity, reinforcing the suggestion that it has a strong Communist Party back to support it….

  13. Nov 20, 2017
    Oil Price Drop Imminent If Moscow Says “No” To Extension
    https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/International/Oil-Price-Drop-Imminent-If-Moscow-Says-No-To-Extension.html
    EXCERPTS
    As the November 30 meeting in Vienna of OPEC and its partners in the oil production cut deal nears, worry has returned …
    …We’re talking about Russia, the world’s top producer and exporter…
    …Reports emerged last week that Russia is considering a delay on the decision to extend the cut…
    …But there may be another reason for Moscow deciding to opt out of the extension. Lower oil prices could actually be more beneficial for the Russian economy. Macro-Advisory analyst Chris Weafer lists six ways in which lower oil prices would be better for Russia, and all of these make sense, counterintuitive as this line of argument might seem at first glance…

    • Congruous to the above Nov 20th article…
      Nov 23rd – $40 WTI Is Now More Realistic Than $60
      https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/40-WTI-Is-Now-More-Realistic-Than-60.html
      EXCERPTS
      …The current rise in oil prices is more of a fear trade right now, driven by fear of what is going on in the Middle East, rather than a result of growing OPEC chatter or inventory reports…
      …“The oil premiums are very narrow going out to the future, which means that this is more of a fear trade in the front month,”…
      …“To me, this is more of just another farce of what OPEC is trying to do, and trying to push these prices higher,”…
      …OPEC and its non-OPEC partners in the production cut deal are scheduled to meet in Vienna on November 30 to discuss the extension of their pact. While just a month ago a nine-month extension to the end of 2018 was the base case of all analysts, now there are growing voices that OPEC may delay the decision to early next year….

    • Nov 28, 2017 –Forget OPEC, Putin Is Calling The Shots In Global Oil
      https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Europe/Forget-OPEC-Putin-Is-Calling-The-Shots-In-Global-Oil.html
      EXCERPTS
      …One OPEC source that requested anonymity, told Bloomberg that Putin is “calling all the shots.” RBC Capital’s head of commodities Helima Croft called the Russian President “the world’s energy czar.” Indeed, Russia seems to have replaced Saudi Arabia as the market swinger, along with U.S. shale…

      …This is how Putin played Riyadh. It was clear that Russia’s participation in the cut deal would be crucial for prices to respond in the way OPEC wanted. To secure this response, OPEC’s leader cozied up to Moscow, with the first ever visit by a reigning Saudi monarch and a string of preliminary investment agreements, not to mention the purchase of the Russian S-400 missile system. All this despite the fact that Russia is a strong ally of Riyadh’s arch-enemy, Iran, and has shown no signs of willingness to reconsider its regional alliances…

      …First, the lower the oil prices, the less motivated U.S. shale producers would be to expand their own production. Like OPEC, Russia sees U.S. shale boomers as the main threat to its reign in the global oil world. Second, the Russian economy benefits from a weaker ruble, and lower oil prices mean a weaker ruble. Third, the Russian economy has shown strong resilience to the oil price crash. This resilience has surprised those unfamiliar with recent history, but it is one more reason for the world’s current number-one oil producer to have second thoughts about a nine-month extension of the oil production cuts.

      Russia is the producer everyone is watching ahead of the OPEC meeting. It may very well sign up for the nine-month extension but if it does, it will very likely do it on its own terms—and Saudi Arabia and the rest of OPEC might need to brace for these terms, whatever they may be, whether economic or geopolitical.

  14. “…Your mind is the battlefield….” – James Corbett

  15. The power of conditioning from a young age is strong. After years of having to pledge allegiance to the flag when you are a child, and the entire culture of America that is based around the flag and honoring the soldiers, it is hard to mentally and emotionally break away from. People feel that they are obligated to fight because it is honorable and noble. Just like people who have severe emotional trauma need intense therapy to overcome the emotional damage, so too do people need a form of therapy to overcome the perpetual trauma that mainstream America delivers. The therapy in this case is education of what’s actually going on in this world.

  16. (In context of current global times… protests are occurring in Iran and the U.S. reportedly is withholding over $250 million in aid to Pakistan.)

    January 2, 2018
    New Pipeline Doubles Russian Oil Supply To China
    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/New-Pipeline-Doubles-Russian-Oil-Supply-To-China.html
    …Russia last year became China’s biggest oil supplier… …At the same time, Saudi imports fell by 7.8 percent in November, to 1.056 million bpd… … But Russia is not the only one eating Saudi Arabia’s market share in the world’s top importer: the U.S. has been exporting crude at unprecedented rates. Last year, the average U.S. oil shipments to China stood at 180,000 bpd for January to September alone.

  17. May 2019 – Trade War with China …and talk of war with Iran & Venezuela or whomever

    On May 19, James published an article “Reminder: Neocons ADMIT They Will Lie Us Into War” which entails some of the current events this late Spring 2019.

    For many months, Trump and China have been having trade talks.
    By May 2019, the trade talks have turned very aggressive.

    China Global Television Network (CGTN)(TWITTER) published this article on May23, 2019.
    “A brief history of tariffs and wars”
    https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d514e3459444f34457a6333566d54/index.html

    EXCERPTS
    “When goods do not cross frontiers, armies will.” This quote is often attributed to Frédéric Bastiat. The influential classical-liberal economist from 19th-century France was known for writing “the candle maker’s petition” to the French parliament. In the satirical letter, he imitated the tone of local lighting manufacturers griping about competition from a rival who overtook their market with rock bottom prices. The rival? The sun.

    It seems that Bastiat remains just as relevant over two centuries later while a saga between the world’s two economic titans unfolds.

    The protracted trade war that escalated earlier this month unnerved investors and wobbled global stocks. While countries involved are counting the cost, fears have been stoked that the full-scale trade battle might culminate in another world war. History certainly rhymes, especially when we look at what triggered the previous two world wars…

    … There’s no denying the situation may escalate if each side perceives the other’s actions to be filled with malice. This perception would lead to ever more serious retaliations that could prompt a full-scale war, as each side is fighting not only on the economic front, but on one that is tied to their identities in a dynamic multi-polar world.

    As such, trade is only the opening salvo for a conflict that is spilling into tech and other areas. It would be wise to resolve this trade crisis before we face the first great war of this century.

  18. June 2019

    Extremely important article series by James Corbett…

    “The Truth About Tiananmen” and its follow-up “Clash of Civilizations 2.0”.
    https://www.corbettreport.com/clash-of-civilizations-2-0/

    Note: Many other relevant links are embedded in these articles.
    e.g Episode 297 – China and the New World Order
    e.g. China Firing Back in New Cold War (April 2011)

  19. Well, it is extremely inefficient due to the scaling thing. It’s doubtfull bitcoin will ever be used on a wide scale for anything other than speculation. Well, that and racking up electricity/hardware bills.

    • I’d much more prefer a scrip based system. Digital or physical, currency is just a currency. Too easy to manipulate with and tends to centralize (practically dogmatize) trust.

      In a scrip based system you know EXACTLY who’s behind the scrip i.e. the promise.

  20. NEWS
    Bloomberg – November 21, 2019
    Kissinger says US and China in ‘foothills of a Cold War’
    https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/kissinger-says-us-and-china-foothills-cold-war

    EXCERPTS
    BEIJING (Nov 21): Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said the US and China were in the “foothills of a Cold War,” and warned that the conflict could be worse than World War I if left to run unconstrained.

    “That makes it, in my view, especially important that a period of relative tension be followed by an explicit effort to understand what the political causes are and a commitment by both sides to try to overcome those,” Kissinger told a session of the New Economy Forum. “It is far from being too late for that, because we are still in the foothills of a cold war.”

    Kissinger said China and the US were countries of a magnitude exceeding that of the Soviet Union and America, and that the world’s two largest economies, who are locked in a protracted trade war, “are bound to step on each other’s toes all over the world, in the sense of being conscious of the purposes of the other.”

    “So a discussion of our mutual purposes and an attempt to limit the impact of conflict seems to me essential,” he said. “If conflict is permitted to run unconstrained the outcome could be even worse than it was in Europe. World War 1 broke out because a relatively minor crisis could not be mastered.”

    Kissinger, 96, said he hoped trade negotiations would provide an opening to political discussions between the two countries.

    “Everybody knows that trade negotiations, which I hope will succeed and whose success I support, can only be a small beginning to a political discussion that I hope will take place,” he said.

    Kissinger spoke hours after Chinese Vice President Wang Qishan addressed the NEF (New Economic Forum), saying his country was committed to peace and would follow through on policy changes despite facing challenges at home and abroad.

    “Between war and peace, the Chinese people firmly choose peace. Humanity cherishes peace,” he said. “We should abandon the zero-sum thinking and cold war mentality.”

    The US and China are trying to assemble a partial trade agreement amid wider tensions ranging from human rights concerns over pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong and the detention of Muslims in China’s Xinjiang region to strategic competition in the South China Sea. Kissinger said he thought a solution to the unrest in Hong Kong was possible, if not likely, and that he hoped it would be resolved via negotiation.

    The New Economy Forum is being organized by Bloomberg Media Group, a division of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News. Other guests include Microsoft Corp founder Bill Gates and former US Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson.

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