Episode 361 - Suicided: The Final Days of Jeffrey Epstein

08/14/2019216 Comments

In this in-depth exploration of the death (?) of Jeffrey Epstein (?), James and The Corbett Report community members tackle 3 questions: What do we know about this incident? What do we not know? And what does it all mean?

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  1. Hsaive says:

    UPDATE – Epstein Alive – Suicide Faked – https://justpaste.it/2imno

  2. energylou says:

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  3. flammable says:

    “There should be investigation not conspiracy theory.”
    Isn’t a conspiracy theorist’s main activity investigation? What about donating to fund investigations like 9/11? What about demanding new investigations to be done? Everything about conspiracy theorist screams investigation.

  4. rayvahey says:

    Strange one… Make of it what you will. Lots of sixes.

    Epstein died at 66 years old

    Take Epsteins birth date and death date: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

    In between there are 24,328 days. To convert that to years divide by 365
    = 66.6, or 66.7 if you round up

    And I’m told he died at 6am (but I don’t know the source for this)

  5. seaandslow says:


    An interesting article which shows why it might not have been far-fetched for Jeffrey to have wanted to take his own life. That place is a tragic example of cruetly.

  6. As usual, I am not at all disappointed with another awesome report. Thank you James.

  7. seaandslow says:


    ” … do they understand that those with a potential interest in masking the truth of Mr. Epstein’s death are as easy to find as opening a magazine or turning on TV?”

    It may be that credulity has finally been stretched beyond it’s limit, when the NYT is giving space to an “incendiary” comment like that.

    • Landpirate says:

      “credulity has finally been stretched beyond it’s limit”! I thought we were there with the Warren Report? Corrupt Govt, so out of control, I’m afraid to type what I just typed. Americans are afraid. is this fear, orchestrated?

    • candlelight says:


      …..on the other hand, the Times’ opinion piece not once, but twice, handily cements the false 911 narrative in place. First, in the sub-heading of the article:

      “I believe that Al Qaeda attacked us on Sept. 11.”

      and, again, in the body of the article:

      “I believe that Al Qaeda terrorists carried out the Sept. 11 attacks.”

      How sneaky and crafty is that? lol

      I’ve always found the old axiom “choose your battles” somehow irritatingly annoying. This article is somehow reminiscent of this meme, and I find it equally obnoxious and annoying, especially when this fucking idiot contends that he’s a “…lifelong journalist who believes in waiting for the facts before reaching grand conclusions…”. Yeah, well, facts have been piling up for the last 18 years about the official conspiracy to deceive the public about 911, and still, after such a nice long wait, this idiot wishes to throw his “grand conclusions” in reader’s faces.

      Who’s he kidding?

  8. bladtheimpaler says:

    Interesting conclusion on the legal ramifications….just like after the NY Madam’s ‘suicide’ and with her little black book fallng into the authorities possession. Epstein’s death will be like pulling one’s hand out of a bucket of water as far as any effects on the on going trade he practiced. Others now ply this trade where Jeff let off. And just like before the FBI and certainly the NSA know who all the actors are.

    On a note of interest it should be noticed that elite criminal acts of this sort as standard practice today, being disruptive to the social good, will not be the standard practice under a Technocracy….also of note is that natural human freedoms will have also been (to use today’s terminology) locked down. Hat tip to ‘Blue’ on this conclusion.

  9. geof.h says:

    GJELTEN: Uscinski says his research suggests that people who ascribe to conspiracy theories are often those who feel they’re under threat or out of power or somehow left on the outside. So connecting the dots may satisfy an emotional or intellectual need.

    Kurt Andersen says it can also be fun.

    ANDERSEN: Look at this. This person was here at this time. And look. It connects to this. That is part of the pleasure of puzzles, of detective fiction, of thrillers. It is a form of entertainment.

    GJELTEN: But a potentially dangerous form of entertainment if people take action based on a perceived conspiracy.

    Moral of the story: don’t prosecute (“take action”) deep state conspirators.

  10. Hotfoot says:

    I wish CR wouldn’t cite headlines or content from the Daily Mail, or its similarly trashy online edition ‘Mail Online’ (45m42s)

    Here in the UK it is widely acknowledged that this outfit is not worth the paper it’s printed on, and I cringe when I see it cited by people I take seriously, such as James. I’ve been meaning to point this out before, but never got around to it.

    I’ve always held the impression that this publication merely take other news sources and try to spin them to make them more clickbait-y, whilst being careful to avoid libellous accusations.

    There, I said it.

  11. Ian Davis says:

    Regardless of what may or may not have happened to Epstein there are some clear patterns emerging in the way the story is being spun in my view. It is notable that we seem to be moving away from the investigation of the Epstein’s crimes and paedophile connection with the political class to the story being about Epstein and his suicide.

    This may just be because it’s the fresh big story in the news cycle but there is also, as James noted, a move towards using the story as an attack vehicle upon so called conspiracy theorists. It appears to be a desperate attempt as it makes little to no logical sense.

    However, I’ve written a post explaining my perspective for those who are interested.


    • manbearpig says:

      “…It is notable that we seem to be moving away from the investigation of the Epstein’s crimes and paedophile connection with the political class to the story being about Epstein and his suicide…”

      Yes Indeed, and important to stipulate.

  12. Stronghorse says:

    In this case,”C O” does not stand for County. It stands for “Corrections Officer”.
    here is a tip for anyone hoping to obtain any information, or any form of gratuity, never call someone who works at a prison: “Guard”. They hate that term and consider it derogatory and a slander to their profession. “Guard” infers protection of something or someone. A “Corrections Officer” will quickly point out to you that they are not there to guard or protect the inmates, hence the moniker is a misnomer. Most will not willingly answer to it. Especially if they consider themselves to an honest person.
    Also, about the “Paper Thin Bed Sheets”, not being able to support the weight of a grown person, this is not necessarily true either. The sheet could be torn into numerous strips and then the strips could be braided into a suitable “Rope” of sorts, that would support the weight of a 200 pound man.
    For the record, I’m not saying that is what happened in this case, all I’m saying is it is a possibility. Interestingly enough, as a former Corrections Officer, I fully expected this to happen, and I publicly predicted it the same day I learned of his conveniently timed arrest.

    • greyhaven says:

      I appreciate your comments about “C.O.” versus “guard.” That was my experience too. And you are correct in your observations about Epstein’s (possible) death by bedsheets. One of them can be ripped into strips, or even twisted tightly, making it possible for it to bear 200 pounds without breaking. He might have been able to use two sheets as well. To me the question is, how could he have hung himself from the (alleged) upper bunk in his cell? There is not enough height; he would have had to kneel and die on his knees (so to speak). I don’t recall MCC having bunks in their cells (but maybe things have changed?).

  13. manbearpig says:

    Welp. my paranoid off-the-cuff impressions and queries;

    Another “Wikileaks-dump-style” daily reality show on the horizon? with all kinds of unexpected twists and tittilation, “incidents and accidents, hints and allegations…”

    It seems, if Epstein’s job was to keep everyone …malleable, so to speak, he’ll be more effective than ever now that he’s been ostensibly… retired.

    Now, almost anyone can be taken down, according to the needs of the moment, for a whole host of more or less palpable, proven or provable crimes: alleged accomplices, clients, negligents and other facilitators…

    Presumed innocence of the seemingly suicided subject and exculpated princes not withstanding

    some sacrificial scapegoats will be thrown to the dogs to satisfy a primal hunger for at least a semblance of eye-for-an-eye justice…

    …I wonder if any 9/11 witnesses, researchers or would be turncoats will be wading up to the eyes in corrosive Epstein muck… any architects, engineers or firefighters? or otherwise uncontrollable truth-tellers, or even… ??

    anyhow… musty old 9/11 pales in comparison to this sultry circus…

    Nevertheless, as mentioned, good to have a stockpile of hot-off-the-press documentation produced in the heat of the moment…for posterity and future perusal…

  14. greyhaven says:

    I think this is an excellent (preliminary) report on what is known and not known on the Epstein exit- from-view. Thank you, James, for looking into his lawyers being behind the removal of the suicide watch. As you pointed out, that cannot happen; lawyers have no say in removing a suicide watch. And such removal is rarely, if ever, done on the basis of just a face-to-face interview with the inmate. It includes usually 2 or 3 interviews (with high profile cases, sometimes 4 or 5 interviews) an extensive review of his behavior, overall and specific adjustments, the observations of officers, nurses, social workers (was he assigned a psychologist or social worker?? Did such a person ever interview him — it is mandated he be interviewed (and observed in follow up) after a suicide watch is ordered and after a suicide watch is ended). And even if Epstein wanted no suicide watch (doubtful since he had been attacked, and likely knew something was amiss in the jail), the coordinating clinician could still deny the end of the suicide watch (and should have since Epstein complained about being attacked). That he is the most well-known person jailed in the last few years should have automatically led to regular psychological scrutiny (interviews, follow up observations, notes in the chart, etc.); that he complained of being attacked should have mandated a daily interview (even from the door if Epstein didn’t want to be interviewed in his cell), and regular observation — especially since this was such a high profile case (and there are certainly enough qualified clinicians in the BoP to afford this level of coverage — they may be understaffed vis officers, but qualified mental health clinicians can be pulled from a wide variety of sources in the BoP, and all of them know and expect this). Finally, it would be an abrogation of clinical protocols to put a person in his cell as a “cellmate.” That is, perhaps, the most egregiously unusual fact of this case, ESPECIALLY such a high profile one as this! You never put a person such as Epstein in a cell with another person (and did he not already complain of being attacked??), you never do this as a part of a suicide watch, or a suicide watch that has just been concluded. That is absolute madness and nowhere in clinical protocols.

    • mik says:

      Cellmate, ex-cup, ridiculous.

      I’ve heard pedophiles have the hardest time in jail of all inmates. I’m not surprised.

      Or is this maybe another not true urban legend?

      • greyhaven says:

        Not only an ex-cop, but a known “thug.” No supervising clinician would ever allow this person to be Epstein’s cellmate under any circumstances (unless the supervisor was bought); and no supervising clinician would ever allow an inmate to be in Epstein’s cell for any reason (unless s/he was bought). Not really an urban legend. Pedophiles have (maybe) the hardest time in jails IF they are placed in general population (housed on the mixed floors of other inmates), which frequently does lead to their rap sheet/charges being discovered (often through C.O. leaks). Then they are typically targeted by certain types of inmates. They, generally, don’t have that much difficulty in special housing (i.e., the mental health unit, the medical unit), UNLESS the staff of the facility (e.g., mental health staff, nursing and/or medical staff, and/or C.O.s) treat him badly, which would mean intentionally. Epstein was placed (according to reports) in MCC 9 South, which is special housing. He should have been put on a slightly modified suicide watch (the jacket used could’ve been removed after 10 days or so) at his entry to the unit. Such a watch, for this high profile case, should NEVER have been removed; no legitimate clinician would have done so. So, in addition to the sleeping C.O.s, it appears the supervising mental health clinician (a psychiatrist or psychologist) was also corrupted.

    • generalbottlewasher says:

      Hotfoot: and the beat goes on. Zionist’ literal thinking. 1700 creeps pride on parade. This monstrous act will be spun so as to make the 1700 into victims.

  15. Uncensored editable wiki articles:

    And a brief explanation of why I made the lists:

    If you’d like to help improve the article and lists, feel free to join InfoGalactic for all its pros and cons, or provide info or comments for me to copypasta and I’ll add them as I find them.

    Also, James, please interview magnora7, founder of SaidIt.net, expert on the Rothschild’s, Reddit conspiracy guru, etc.

    • alexandre says:

      Fantastic, Jason. Wouldn’t it be “Pedocracy”? Pedophocracy sounds a bit weird. But kudos to you, man.

      • I totally agree, it’s awkward. And it’s not even correct. It really should be “pedophilocracy” according to the word experts at Wiktionary.

        https://infogalactic.com/info/Pedophocracy#Term_origin The late great David McGowan coined the term.

        • alexandre says:

          David McGowan coined “pedophilocracy”? Cool. The other day I was trying to remember his name, talking to someone, and it came out Ewan McGregor. Imagine the guy’s puzzlement. McGowan! McGowan!

          • pearl says:

            Ha! Amazing!! Same exact thing happened to me, just the other day in a conversation, I was frustrated trying to recall author Ian McEwan, but it also came out Ewan McGregor, even though I knew that wasn’t quite right, but incredibly close.

            On a more serious note, I recently encountered McGowan’s writings for the first time via Edward Curtain’s sober essay “Happenings in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave”. I just don’t know how much more awakening I can stand. Seriously, it’s almost as painful as learning Santa wasn’t real. I’ve hesitated to ask what others here thought of McGowan, but this segue is as good as any other.

            Opinions, thoughts, pros/cons…anyone?

            • alexandre says:

              Hurray for McGregor! He must be CIA!

              Yep, I’d sure like to know Corbett’s opinion on McGowan. I didn’t read him, I only heard him in his long interviews, but it makes sense. It gets a bit over there at the edge of the “everything is a conspiracy”, and I kinda like that. I was myself very into the hippie thing when I was very young, marijuana, piece and love, freedom, art, sex (whenever possible) and it’s hard to imagine all that as a psyop, but….makes sense and could very well be. You see, for a Brazilian, everything WAS a US conspiracy, since the world changed completely after the 64 coup. So the whole hippie movement as a psyop would be just one more psyop.

              I told my sister about it and she said something like “ENOUGH! Don’t you destroy my 70s!” Another friend, guitarist, big Zappa fan, also told me to f off when I said Zappa’s family was military. I like the idea, he has some evidence, but still…dunno. I’d love to see James on that. Doubt he’ll ever take up the subject, though. Why were you hesitant do ask about McGowan here?

              • candlelight says:

                En Garde!

                alexandre, I’m going to jump right in here…. I don’t know McGregor, I don’t know McGowan, I don’t know whomever, but, it doesn’t matter when the nose knows….

                A little while back among the conspiratorial (nefarious circles, imho)sprung the idea that the whole of the love, dove, 60’s, 70’s hippiedom was orchestrated by US intelligence agencies, from Jim Morrison on down….Yes, including the fact(?) that Morrison’s father was a very high ranking naval officer, blah, blah, blah. (okay, like his kid can’t rebel?) Anyway, have you any notion of how square these guys in government were back in the sixties?

                To make a long story short, muddying and retrofitting the narrative that the peace and love movement, however pot and acid driven it may have been, was some kind of CIA covert operation is total hogwash, total new wave, next ignorant generation PSYOP. Politely said, it’s just plain bullshit.

                Bottomline: Heed your sister. Yesterday’s experience was real – ever more real than today’s. Best keep it real….

                And…. stay en garde!


              • candlelight says:

                Also, I like your idea about creating a space within the Corbett Report( a room – call it a living room with a fireplace, etc.)where subscribers can hang out and get expansive and talk about subjects free of moderation, e.g., the 500 word cutoff, or waiting on a cue for siting too many links, etc., etc.

                Though I understand his point, I disagree with GBW, who nixed your idea of incorporating within TCR a separate space apart from the “orchestra” of subscribers. Yes, we’re one big orchestra, and James is our conductor – naturally – after all, TCR is his website.

                But, harking back to Caitlin Johnstone and the “narrative”, is it really that wonderbar for James to control the narrative? Yes, it is his website, but why not throw a little anarchy into a corner of it?

                Ironic, no?

                Also, these rooms for the more ardent subscriber wouldn’t be at all exclusive, correct? Any subscriber who wanted to put his/her, her/his, er, their, two cents into it would be free to do so. Democratic, socialist,libertarian, anarchic all in one….

                Without moderation, perhaps it might be more difficult to control the narrative as would be the wont of those who enjoy setting agendas surreptitiously, and instead of the never ending, daily skirt, issues can be delved into and explored in an organic fashion, room by room, day by day, as subscribers see fit.

                Anyway, just a thought. I like your idea!

                En garde!

              • alexandre says:

                I don’t know where to reply so it goes here, for candlelight about McGowan.

                I think you should look into McGowan’s work because there’s a lot there. It’s not conclusive, I think, he doesn’t try to prove decisively anything as far as I know, but things like the Lookout Mountain Laboratory is something we never heard of, so it’s worth a look – unless you have something invested in the 60-70s movement. I don’t want to ruin anyone’s nostalghia. Further more, even if it was a culture manufacture operation or whatever, it doesn’t take away the quality of the music. I myself had to deal with the fact that Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker traveled around the world paid by the US government to “spread American culture”, you know. Still, bebop was a genuine thing. So I don’t know, it’s just worth a look, and at this stage I wouldn’t be surprised if tomorrow I found out that I am not myself, but actually Dustin Hoffman.

              • pearl says:

                Exactly what I was hoping, opposing perspectives. Thanks for both of your replies.

                “Why were you hesitant do ask about McGowan here?”

                Right? I dunno…maybe that’s one of rabbit holes I don’t want to explore. Also, unless knowing is actually profitable, affecting important decisions in my life, such as voting, my health or enabling something I have control over, then it’s little more than sensational knowledge threatening to undermine the few pleasures which remain.

                On the other hand, who doesn’t resent being manipulated and lied to? And once you’ve heard, read or seen something, you can’t un-see it. In which case, I’d require evidence, and I don’t know how thoroughly documented McGowan’s claims are (there’s very little of his stuff I’ve found, and what I have someone uploaded to archive.org).

                As you can see, I’m in the throes of whiplash.

              • Full spectrum dominance does not only apply to war.

                They would charge you for the air you breathe if they could.

                All the laws are conspiracies in their favour.

                Everything _IS_ tied to conspiracies.

                Candlelight is dim.

                If the 60s were not orchestrated by the CIA, then why did Timothy Leary credit them with 80% of his ideas?

                The hippie culture was intentionally engineered and took on a life of its own.

                If you want as social area you can visit SaidIt.net, like Reddit but non-partisan. There’s a CorbettComments sub to discuss TCR and it even has a chat.

          • David McGowan coined “pedophilocracy”?


            David McGowan coined “pedophcracy”, but to be more correct technically it should have been that.

            Television is not a “correct” word either. “Tele” and “vision” are Latin and Greek, and technically it’s an improper word fusion.

            • alexandre says:

              Jason – Thanks for that. Very interesting about “television”. I do believe these spontaneous cultural phenomena (when they’re really important) are in most part produced. If they can manufacture revolutions, if they changed the direction of my continent, they can sure invent a cultural movement. But if I’m not mistaken McGowan indeed doesn’t have anything really concrete. I’d have to check. You sound pretty sure, though. Do you have good stuff on that?

              Pearl – “throes of whiplash” goes a bit beyond my English, sorry. But answer acknowledged. Sad to know you still vote. How was that… “it only encourages them”?

              • pearl says:

                Well, about the time I discovered Corbett through Sibel Edmonds (late 2015) I was a clueless, budding Libertarian and I did vote in the last election. 9/11 was what brought me here. Everything else has been learned since. I’m pretty much persuaded on the uselessness of national elections, but a few here have made excellent points about voting on the local scene. So, that’s where I am for now, paying closer attention to battles at home.

                Thanks for jumping in, Jason.

              • alexandre says:

                Pearl, I understand and yes, there’s a point there about the local thing. I for myself don’t believe in government of any kind or size, afar or local, so I stopped voting even here in my little wee town. Since in Brazil voting is mandatory, I owe the government a bit of money, not too much. But I found, experimenting with my sister, that the idea of not voting triggers something in the person. I said to my sister at voting day; “just don’t go there, stay home. As Dennis Farina said ‘relax, eat a sandwich, have a glass of milk, do some fucking thing”. She actually thought about it for two seconds and then replied very nervous: “I can’t! I’m not like you!”. Voting, I concluded, also has something to do with a psyop after all. Why so nervous, as if she was betraying something or someone? Curious. But that’s just me.

                What’s “throes of whiplash” then? For my English.

              • pearl says:

                Throes is an intense struggle, either physical or emotional. So, as I’m somewhat torn by what little I’ve read of McGowan’s, I see my inner dialogue as a mental kind of whiplash, back and forth. As I just wrote it in haste, I hope I’ve not put our language to shame. I’ve been known for my glorious belly flops more than once.

                I can’t imagine mandatory voting, and hope that doesn’t happen here. So you get fined if you don’t? I feel for your sister. Not doing so is taking a stand which marks you for later. I often wonder if I’ll have what it takes if and when it comes to something like that. So far, my standing firm has been in smaller things, and the results aren’t fun, but at the same time, I have a greater sense of peace, and my convictions solidify.

                I hope Jason returns to follow-up with your question (copied below), because McGowan made some pretty serious claims.

                “But if I’m not mistaken McGowan indeed doesn’t have anything really concrete. I’d have to check. You sound pretty sure, though. Do you have good stuff on that?”

            • candlelight says:


              “candlelight is dim” was a clever retort with a soft touch. Besides the initial ego deflation, it made me literally laugh out loud. Still does.

              Okay, here’s a quote of David McGowan’s:

              “To my mind, the greatest guitarist who ever lived was Jimi Hendrix, and Janis Joplin was arguably the finest female vocalist – in terms of raw power and emotion – to ever take the stage.”

              The above taken from:


              So, listen, if the guy can come out with a statement like that, then he’s not all bad. He’s got some very good taste in music. On that note, I’m right there with him, completely.

              But let’s face it, it’s pretty much a given that the CIA and their ilk have their tendrils everywhere and everyplace, even right here on this forum, monitoring it at the very least – of that I have little doubt. Who knows, maybe they’re attempting to steer it, too.

              But, to the degree they can steer this board, influence it, control the conversation, etc., is most likely the same extent to which they may have tried to steer the counter-culture/anti-war movement decades ago. If anything, they would have become more adept over time, no?

              So, you tell me, how much influence does the intelligence community have over the Corbett Report community? Your answer may be a useful guide and determinant concerning the veracity of McGowan’s thesis.

              To answer your question as to why Timothy Leary came out and said he credits the CIA with 80% of his ideas, perhaps he was tripping at he time. lol


              • alexandre says:

                candlelight I don’t know if it’s the CIA, the military I. complex, the Pentagon, the dark hand of Ahriman or the true governing power backstage, but whatever they are they can produce – not influence – quite a lot. They didn’t “influence” the coups in Argentina, Chile and Brazil, they produced it – planed, funded, trained, supplied etc. How? I don’t know. Is that possible? It was. Think Hollywood times 1000. Ever heard of the Schools of the Americas? Dark stuff.
                In case of culture manufacturing, obviously they’ll use existent pop trends and tastes but they will produce cultures, “spontaneous” movements and sell them just like any movie. The power is there, it always comes from above and the targets (the people) are there to buy them too. That’s not to say there aren’t genuine movements, but the big ones, the important ones, it’s almost certainly them. Right off the top of my head, according to Chomsky, talking about the coup in Brazil, they said (paraphrasing like a bastard) “…a permanent change in Brazil’s direction was needed…” And boy did they changed it forever.

                Leary – Isn’t the CIA the world first drug dealer? So they supplied the heroin, what’s secret about that? Probably Leary was talking mainly about that, LSD, heroin etc, but I don’t know.

                McGowans comment – The greatest “ROCK” guitarist who ever lived, should be said, because in jazz guitar, Jimmy Hendrix doesn’t mean much. Very respected as a musician, but hold your horses. Wes Montgomery would be the name.

                CIA is monitoring us here?

              • candlelight says:

                Hmmm, Wes to jazz as Jimi to rock. Of course, it always boils down to dif’rent strokes.

                But, one of my all time favorite performances can’t be touched (within its genre):

                First, please note: Put on a good pair of headphones and turn up the sound!


                A girlfriend of mine got to see that concert and fuck was I envious….


                “CIA is monitoring us here?”


                You’re questioning it?


                According to your post above, forget about monitoring, forget about influencing, the powers above have the ability of production….

                Even in far off lands,eh?

                CIA here? Hahahhaahhaaa

              • candlelight says:

                Anyway, my friend, this section of the peanut gallery is closing down for a week, or so…. CIAo 🙂

              • alexandre says:

                I wouldn’t compare the permanent changing of a country’s direction with the Corbett report. If Corbett starts mobilizing millions of people towards anarchism, and then people started acting on it, then maybe their heads would turn. I think they have other things to worry about. But what he hell do I know.

                The video you sent is unavailable for me. “Video was not made available by the person who uploaded” etc. Talk about globalization. Is it a Jimmy performance? Any other link?

                Candlelight dim….now I get it. Ha ha….

                CIAo belo!

              • pearl says:

                Candlelight, that was the BEST performance I’ve EVER heard!! I’m going to be coasting on that one for a very long time. Alexandre, you are missing out, dude. Wow. I’ve got goosebumps*.

                One of the things I find disturbing about McGowan’s quote above is that if what he asserted can be proven (one of the most horrific claims being that the Rolling Stones performed “Sympathy for the Devil” at a concert while knowing a human sacrifice was going on backstage), is that he could still say, yeah, these guys are still great, I own all their albums, pull them out every now and then ’cause they just sound so damn good…. Let’s apply that reasoning to the 9/11 perpetrators: Yeah, the Bush administration did 9/11, purposely killed 3000 innocent civilians to justify a forever war destroying millions of lives in 7 countries, but, gosh darn it, they’re such nice folks, I still play golf with them on the weekends.

                So far, all I’m seeing are wild, Hollywood tales with little evidence. Maybe McGowan was the CIA tool instructed to sow such a malignant distrust into everything, thereby creating a psychological panopticon effect.

                *Just messin’ with ya, Alexandre. It was a Jimi Hendrix performance, but I never was a fan (diff’rent strokes and all).

                By the way, I’d like to add my 2 cents about the suggestions for a conversational, off-topic lounge. Doesn’t that go against the whole point of The Corbett Report? I couldn’t find the one short video he did showing a well-worn path cutting across the grass, ignoring the sidewalk, but this longer one should make plain why a comfy, designated place is quite unnecessary:


              • candlelight says:


                Awesome that you loved the song “Machine Gun” by Hendrix!

                As well as sorry that alexandre somehow couldn’t get the link. So, for alexandre, please know that it was a link to a 1970 live performance of Hendrix’ Band Of Gypsys at the Fillmore East venue in NYC. The entire performance was made into an album titled “Band Of Gypsys”. I highly recommend it.

                In a way, that song alone – Machine Gun – puts the lie to McGowan’s premise that the CIA “created” the hippie phenomenon to drive a wedge of sorts into the anti-war movement. As here is a uniquely strong anti-war song delivered to a very psychedelic, stoned audience, a youth culture that had no beef with hippies, who understood what it meant to be a hippie, that is, to drop out and reject the “Man’s” war mongering society, and who freely engaged in being “weekend hippies” themselves when and wherever possible. Yet, at the same time, very willing to march and speak out against war – the Vietnam war in particular. What actually killed the anti-war movement was the cessation of the military draft, i.e., mandatory enlistment.
                PS: After writing and performing “Machine Gun” in early 1970, Hendrix died later that year. Interesting that Martin Luther King died relatively soon, too, after adding an anti-war message into his speeches.
                We know that the CIA is tasked with controlling/steering outcomes by killing the messenger, among other means and methods.

                Pearl, you really struck the nail on the head if we were to get all conspiratorial with McGowan when you wrote the following:

                “Maybe McGowan was the CIA tool instructed to sow such a malignant distrust into everything, thereby creating a psychological panopticon effect.

                Maybe McGowan was CIA, or maybe he simply found a nice little angle in which to write a book, and in so doing, created a nice, neat fictional account of the past with the utilization of fictional connections to various “dots” that were, in reality, not connected.

                alexandre, you wrote the following:

                “If Corbett starts mobilizing millions of people towards anarchism, and then people started acting on it, then maybe their heads would turn. I think they have other things to worry about.”

                That couldn’t be a truer statement, my friend.

                As long as Corbett’s message touts anarchy as a societal solution, which resonates with very few souls, let alone millions, and at the same time encourages citizens not to feed and legitimize the
                “machine” with their vote, Corbett will be forever free of the guillotine, and be of no worry to the “Man”. Also, as an aside, to deny in its entirety, any epigenetic influence on climate, I believe, however intuitively or counter-intuitively, would have a placating, calming effect on the powers that be. After all, the powers that be are the owners of production. Production produces pollution….etc., etc. You can take it from there.

              • alexandre says:

                Candlelight – Hi there, good evening. Thanks for the comment. About Hendrix and McGowan. I hear you. And I heard some performances of Machine Gun, none the one you said, but I got the tune. I’m not into rock, although I respect any music that is genuine (no bullshit) and Hendrix is beyond critiques. Not surprisingly Miles Davis wanted to do something with him. I’m a jazzman, but the word lost meaning today, since jazz was converted into school bullshit. Back in the day it was the street music of the individual, freedom, truth etc, so any musician that is based on that is a brother. In other words, I don’t like Machine Gun, but I respect it completely. Miles and Hendrix were different styles of the same spirit. Or as the old German would say, they were two different folk ideas of the same elementary idea – freedom.

                Saying that McGowan could be CIA seems a bit far. When I learned that Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie went around the world, paid by the government, to spread American culture, I had my doubts about jazz – my beloved philosophy. When I saw Barry Harris talking about jazz, without ever hearing about him before, when he said that Miles, Herbie Hancock et al was “not jazz”, I almost had a heart attack. Miles was (and still is) the highest reference in jazz – I mean the period before he went to rock/pop for commercial reasons. From say…59 to 67 it was the best jazz music ever got. To hear a master like Barry Harris, who lived through the history and taught many giants, say that THAT was not jazz was very hard. BUT….I had to consider he is a master and he must know what he’a talking about, while I’m a white guy in South America, so I have to listen and think. It is a picle. What I feel about jazz today (school shit) must be what Harris felt when Miles came along, as hard as it is to imagine. So I’m dealing with it, I still like Miles, but I have Harris in the back of my head. My point is that it is very hard to deal with this sort of thing (demolition of idols), the easiest way being to say something like “Harris doesn’t know what he’s talking about” and maintain my idea of what jazz is/was. Learning, though, is my highest pleasure, so I go into it, if needed get depressed and think about it.

                When I told my sister that maybe (I don’t remember McGowan affirming categorically anything), maybe the 60-70s were created by the intelligence monsters, she almost beat me up. “Get outta here!!”, she said. We lived through that (even being kids) and we absorbed all the ideas – peace, love, truth, freedom etc – so she didn’t want to know. I for myself am willing to give McGowan credit and look into what he was saying, specially knowing advertising so much.

                [SNIP – Please keep comments to 500 words. -JC]

              • pearl says:

                Interesting background info on that Hendrix tune, Candlelight. How the CIA is wrought with so many deadly, convenient coincidences!

              • pearl says:

                Awww, CIA separating myths from facts – adorable!

                Even so, there were some interesting bits in there which had me recalling Fletcher Prouty’s “Secret Team” (I really need to get back to and finish that book…).

              • candlelight says:


                You’re not hanging out on, or visiting, cia.gov often, are you? Looking for a job? Any opportunities for Brazilian jazz hipsters to spy on other crazy jazz hipster, independent thinking, “New System” advocators? LOL…..oops, I misspoke – CIA employees are not spies.

                Sorry, just kidding…..

                But, they do make that perfectly clear on their official website, kinda, sorta? The Cloak and Dagger mythology is just that? A myth?

                Who knows, I breezed through that page so fast, I wanted to leave before they knew I was there…. 🙂


                Anyway, all kidding aside, I’m not a jazz aficionado by any means. I do enjoy certain jazz if it’s more smooth and subtle and melodic like John Coltrane’s form of what was described to me as “progressive” jazz. I find it soothing and intricate, like a fine bottle of Burgundy. About the time you were in NYC dealing with your rat infestation lol, I had gone to see a jazz artist with a good buddy of mine who was himself a musician and dabbled with composing. He took me to see Chick Corea, and I knew I was “supposed” to like it, but, it just didn’t do anything for me. I mean, I was appreciative of Corea’s talent and skill on the piano and his composition, but, it simply didn’t reverberate in the same way as Hendrix’ guitar did and will always do. I do like Miles Davis’ music for his horn’s pure concentration of explosive power, which I believe mirrors Miles’ persona to a Tee, somehow. Apparently, he had a fashion line, including men’s ties, of which I’m a proud owner. It’s wide, colorful and lively, and absolutely one of my favorites.

                In another post you brought up the idea of Arthur C. Clarke’s “The Sentinel” that I’m assimilating as being a metaphor for the vast gulf existing between “elites” and those mere mortals whom they control, whereby their(elites)perception of life, of what’s real, comes to be but a hollow imitation of what’s real, lacking all substance, emotion, warmth; that which we would call human, or having any semblance to any living being. And, therefore, they, the elites, have become capable of committing any atrocity against what for them has become an “abstraction”.
                It’s fascinating that you mentioned it, because it’s in its own way very similar to, and a metaphor for, the developers and advocates for AI in general and trans-humanism, in particular, and their penchant for equating the consciousness of the living being with the electro-stimulation of the silicone wafer.

                Life as computation equals substance lost. In this envisioned frenetic future, will the souls of these trans-humanists even rust for us?

                CIAo – belo

              • alexandre says:

                Hi candlelight. Yeah, trying to get myself a spying gig, but no luck. No, I do not go to any gov page ever. Scared to death of them. If I remember I just looked for something like “CIA doesn’t exist” and it came up. I didn’t read all of that, no sir, but it’s rather comic. I think they’re taking the piss.

                Miles fashion brand? Didn’t know about that, but it figures. Jazz men are not known for their intelligence. (I’m an exception, of cough!). Miles for me goes until 1966/67. From then on, it went pop, and according to Frank Kofsky’s excellent book, not for artistic reasons, as many believe. Columbia (I think) made him go pop to sell well and pay his debts to them, etcetera. Real life is always much less flamboyant than the myths. But I don’t care about Miles’ personal life, just his music, and from that specific era. We musicians as persons in general are idiots.

                Sentinel people. Well, today I had a conversation with a woman that is kind of a medium – spiritism, Alan Kardec kind of thing – and she assured me that these spirits (elites, Rothschilds etc) are just like that; cold, vampires, live out of other people’s energies, don’t care at all about any human thing, use hypnosis very strongly etc. And some big shot medium she knows tells her that “hell is empty now”, like in “they’re all here”, which reminded me of the CERN thing – remember that? Maybe they did open the gates of hell after all.
                As tongue in cheek (or tongue through cheek) it sounds, it explains these motherf***s perfectly. Some spirits are like that, meaning they’re not just normal people gone bad, or corrupt, greedy, crazy etc. It’s their spiritual characteristic. Predators living off of human energy. A specific type of spirit – and many of them now feasting on us. It made sense to me since I had one of those in my personal life from 1970 on, and the description was perfect. It was a woman, and this woman pretty much destroyed my family’s life. Bad luck. Mom and dad are dead now, but this woman still lives, has a son that is 54 now, lives with her and, while she is strong and healthy even smoking like a chimney, her son has multiple sclerosis. But I don’t know. I told my Kardec friend that, spiritually, all I wanted was to come here (incarnate) and have a nice cup’a coffee and a cigarette in peace. Little that I knew….

                I know these explanations sound ridiculous and puts things in a way that makes you just accept things and don’t fight etc. I’m not a kardec man myself. But I kind of like the simplicity and the certainty these Kardec people show. They don’t care about trying to convince anyone; they just know things are like that. I envy that certainty. At least it’s a better way to describe the maniacs than “Reptilians”.

    • D. Rolling Kearney says:

      I don’t have an account on your InfoGalactic site, but in the interest of facts versus speculation, you probably want to either remove Joseph Smith from your list of so-called “known pedophile elites” or state the actual known facts. It currently says that he “committed child sexual abuse” which is NOT a known fact. All that is known is that he married a girl that would be considered underage by today’s standards. In his day it was much more common, although becoming less common. There is no proof that anything sexual took place between them, just that they were “sealed” which to Mormons has more to do with being married in the next life than in this one. You may find the following informative, as this is not a new accusation, and has been researched intensively: https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Joseph_Smith/Polygamy/Plural_wives/Helen_Mar_Kimball

  16. hfuchs says:

    I used to live in Peekskill and Croton, Westchester County, NY. It did occur to me that ex-cop and alleged multiple killer and cellmate Nicholas Tartaglione was on the Briarcliff police force and the Clinton’s primary residence is only a few miles away in Chappaqua. I am sure it is only a coincidence as the Clintons would never get involved in a murder for hire conspiracy of an inconvenient witness.

  17. Duck says:

    In ten years time,assuming nothing major happens to the economy, people will be discussing the escape or Epstein to pleasure island…. or how he was killed by smurfs….. or by transgender smurfs……or zero point energy lizard people…or whatever, divide and confuse is the name of their game.
    The aim of our opponents is to make us argue, we will be able to spot the ‘Glowey’ folks amungst us in the next few weeks because they will post tidbits to make us fight and become as useless and weak and divided as Kennedy assassination theorists and 9/11 truthers who spend more time arguing over energy weapons and invisible planes then exposing documentable crimes and inconsistencies. A FACT based outlook is why I love the Corbett report
    Watch for those who try to make people believe crazy stuff that lacks evidence or who want to make people fight over cultish points of view…. Epstein is a nothing burger, until normal people feel the results of the deep state screwing up normal people will talk but not act. The glowey folks want to keep the 5% who are awake fighting and hating each other
    Common sense and documentation and a demand for provability is why I generally trust the corbett report…. the powers that are want us to loose connection with reality

  18. Waterbear says:

    Breathe Epstein Breathe

  19. alexandre says:

    Once a guy told Krishnamurti that he had met Jesus in some desert. Krishnamurti asked what Jesus said, but the guy didn’t remember, as he was fixated on proving that he DID meet Jesus. For Krishnamurti it didn’t matter if he could “prove” it or not, but what Jesus said. (Not that I’m a big fan of Krishnamurti, it’s just an illustration of a suggestion I want to make).

    Trying to prove what the truth is, maybe, is what automatically puts everybody in the CT category, since the what, how, when, facts and documents and believable sources etc are mostly out of reach. The normal investigatory/journalistic system is, apparently, leading only to CTs. No other possibility. The focus should be, then, on the reactions (or effects) of the story, whatever it is, Epstein or whatever, and try to get a feel for the “why”. Not why Epstein was retired, but why this story is out at all. What is it causing? And why now. These stories are fed to the people (not Corbeteers, but those who matter, let’s say, the called “normies”) through official “channels”. Asking why story A and not story B is released is much more fruitful than trying to chase the chickens that they release from time to time. In that way it doesn’t matter what can be proven or not, if the guy died or not, or if anything is true or not. It’s the effect that it causes on the perception of reality, which seems to be what they are engineering through campaigns like this. “What is the story saying” should be the point, not if we can prove (or know) anything. Try to find out (investigate) and you become a CT automatically. It must be a hard one for journalists and reporters so fixated on evidences, but it’s time to look at “history” (or “the news”) as a literary composition, not as a sequence of events, and maybe Corbett would be THE guy to do this very well.

    Oceania is at war with Eurasia. It is exactly like that now, because even if the phrase “killed himself in prison” can only get a big laugh at this point, still they release the story like that. “Cartoon stuff” as Jason Bermas says. Yes, yes, go from there, don’t stop. It is way beyond cartoon – as is Donald Trump as president, or Obama as the savior, or Israel’s right to “defend itself”. Go from there. How can that be possible? How can they release such cartoon shit on the people and everybody, even seeing it for the stupidity that it is, still continue to take it seriously?? The reaction to the story IS the “why”, like an experiment. “Let’s see if these idiots buy this one”. And people buy it every time, reacting like sea anemones. “Mr President”. To Trump? Has everybody forgotten what Trump is/was/always will be – personally and publicly? They are vomiting the truth in (on?) our faces for a long time now, the truth being “it’s all a fraud, a soap opera, a theater, an ad campaign, you idiots!”, and people don’t deal with that, in some sort of cognitive dissonance. “All a lie and a fraud? No, it can’t be, not all. Maybe some, but not all”. Yes it can and 9/11 alone (even without building 7) should be enough for people to deal with the 1984 shock, regroup, rethink, go into depression, come out of it and stop falling for the stupid tricks these maniacs perpetrate and re-perpetrate over and over again. Are we really talking about pedophilia? The worst thing imaginable? Prince of Whales or whoever the prick is with this guy in parties fucking children in the ass?? (It needs to be said like that, for fuck’s sake). Is that the subject!?

    And is it treated on TV like this??

    And we’re trying to find out what happened to this piece of shit for what exactly? So “we can prevent it from happening again” as they say over and over? Let’s say we find out that he was killed by Lucabrasi in the MCC. There. So what? What happens next? Do people truly believe that the owners of this system, the KMAs, really are going to suffer any kind of repercussion, even remotely? If Epstein was arrested, it would make sense only as part of some campaign to “reveal the truth about this rotten system”, which seems strange coming from the system itself, like Satan launching a campaign to expose Satan. Why would that be? That’s the question to ask. Well, one reason could be that the whole system comes down crashing with at least two possible consequences; 1 – people think finally justice was made (with public quare decapitations of queens and presidents) and 2 – a NEW SYSTEM comes to take its place (God help us all). Something like that, I’m just improvising. I think it’s a more fruitful and smart way to look at it than bed sheets and ear lobes.

    Excuse me James (and everyone), for the anger, and I hope you don’t ban me forever. It’s just a suggestion.

    • Duck says:

      When the ‘New’ System saves us from the old you know it will be bringing all kinds of things the old WISHED it could get done.
      Trump could right now become the greatest president since Washington by rounding up the pedo scum… but if he does I would wonder what HIS true agenda was…. and i would bet its not far off of those who own the pedo scum

      • alexandre says:

        By the way, Duck, yes, I think it’s called “continuity of government” or something like that. It’s just a continuation of a big road map created long long time ago. We were born already in it and will die without seeing the end of it. But we could at least not give it credence by accepting its bullshit. One problem now is to define government. What is it? By the looks of it it’s everything now. We’re surrounded by it so it’s impossible to get out. In any case Trump wouldn’t become the greatest anything because, at best, he’s an asshole that grabs women’s vaginas, a scumbag that shouldn’t be allowed in public spaces, let alone the government, and since “the president” just “presides”, it’s de facto irrelevant what he does or doesn’t. These bastards have agendas like Harrison Ford would have an agenda while in the role of Indiana Jones. They’re actors, nothing more.

    • generalbottlewasher says:

      Alex,Duck you are spot on target. You must be feeling better Alex, with this vigorous expose’ on this rotten system we have. Im a fan of improvising. Why, with this crowd could be anything ? I’d say its the Elect pimps world move to normalize and allow underage girls and boys the right to work as prostitutes. Equal pay and right to early admission in a growth industry removing all stigma of age or sex discrimination. A U.N. charter for equality maybe. The New System you pointed out. God help us indeed!

      • alexandre says:

        Thank you both – for not telling me to go f myself. I’m waiting for Corbett to ban me for such horrible language, but that’s exactly the point. It is unspeakable and yet people are “speaking about it”. Normalization, yes, seems like one of the targets, and apparently anything can be normalized, even this atrocity. Talk about holocaust. David Icke, apart from lizards, talks about this monstrosity for ages and how it’s fundamental in this system. We should lean more towards the notion that the system is indeed, de facto, psychopathic, seriously sick, satanic where anything normal is just an accident, more than thinking that it’s a human normal system with some rotten apples in it. If you think lizards from outer space, even if it’s a ridiculous notion, you’ll be much closer to the truth than thinking it’s just a corrupt system. It’s just too systematically sick.

        I had to do a tomografia – tomography? – cause the local doc suspects diverticulitis. And by the result it seems he was right, so here we go. He already gave me antibiotics, so I’m feeling quite ok. But I’ll go to my anthroposophic doctor in the big city, cause you know….these normal medicine guys…give me the creeps, so let’s see. After 50 everything starts falling down, it’s amazing. Just like any appliance with an expiration date. The tomography was horrible, and yet…fun.

        • fieldmouse says:

          Hi Alexandre and correspondents. You have touched on a touchy subject and that’s DOCUMENTS. There are researchers who place great store on compiling supporting documentation. But who writes the documents? In modern times the vast majority are written by government and business employees, and the majority of those are not readily available to the public.
          Twentieth century materialistic science has taken great pains to eliminate human perception and experience from scientific experiments. This creates dichotomies because life is an experiential process and because consciousness is not physical. If reality was solid in the Newtonian sense there could be no consciousness. Adding ‘science’ to documents we get a situation where the most important evidence of all, that of the WITNESSES, and their lived experience, is relegated to the status of hearsay.
          Even when the witnesses themselves have documented their experience for instance in Anna Van Oort’s recent book Wayang, it is largely overlooked. Brice Taylor’s classic and devastating testimony Thanks For The Memories told us everything we needed to know in 1999 and was marginalised and not acted upon. Jeffrey Masson’s book Assault on Truth: Freud’s repression of the seduction theory, gave us the key to unlocking the quiet tyranny of the psychiatrists over the public. Dr Masson was harrassed to the point of eventually withdrawing from human psychology and focussing principally on animals. His work was ignored and nothing was done.
          Using a scientific approach working from documents written by spooks and jobsworths is a snailspace method.
          In a criminal investigation we have to go first to the witnesses and use crime solving methods ie profiling, modus operandi, motive, mapping the network and history, cross-referencing and field work.
          A great example of this method is given by Kerry Cassidy in her Project Camelot investigations.

          • fieldmouse says:

            The aforementioned David Icke is giving fine analysis in this video
            Epstein: Gateway To The Global Cesspit (15th of August), starting with the Fletcher Prouty identifier of a hit which is – normal security procedures are withdrawn.

          • alexandre says:

            Hi fieldmouse. Very interesting and I agree (as far as I could understand – not an english native here). So you are saying they should go after witnesses in this case? But didn’t they already? If so, are they good? And can’t witnesses be produced or manufactured just like documents? How would we know anything?

            Curiously I was thinking the other day that maybe Corbett should do what he did once, if I’m not mistaken, which is ask someone there in NY to go interview people, meaning forget documents on the internet and try to get trusted people there to get testimonials, something like that. On the ground investigating by normal people. That would be in line with your comment, no?

            In any case I maintain that this pedophilia thing is an operation, starting long ago, that includes Jimmy Savile, Kevin Spacey, Bill Cosby, DC Madam, the church etc, something that looks designed to open up the gates of hell, or “reveal the ugly truth about this rotten system” etc. All of a sudden you have these things come up at the same time, like a campaign (I’ll never stop saying), as if it’s just a coincidence. Brice Taylor, exactly, well remembered. Did they do anything then? No. So why now they go after Epstein, and Savile, and Cosby etc? Why now? Ok, it’s not so recent, but still he could have been silenced a lot earlier and quieter. Shit hits the fan if and when they want it to hit the fan.

            If Epstein was a high up in the power dimension, these guys don’t suffer the effects of our dimension, they are immune to police and prosecutions, period. Shit, people much much lower in the chain than Prince Andrews are already immune. If, on the other hand, he was just a low level bandit who provided children for psychopaths, psychopaths would have him “sleeping with the fishes” along with his wee black book before any policeman could “arrest him at the airport”. So what was he? High or low?

            This blackmail thing is another weird notion. Does someone have to blackmail me to play guitar? Do we have to blackmail Velasquez do paint? Honest politicians who want to do right are so rare that they can be “taken care of” easily without any need of worldwide pedophile rings – or compromising videos, come on. I think even Icke is contradicting himself in this case. If the so powerful elite (reptilians in much cases) has to go to such extents to get rid of this little guy, then they’re not that powerful, or organized (or reptilian). What, Epstein somewhat got out of control? Was it a blunder? From an elite that otherwise is infalible? Broken cameras? Officer fell asleep? Give us a break, things don’t work like that in real life, which leaves just the option that it’s theater – designed for an audience that at the most can grasp the notion of foul play at the MCC, but can’t go any further (or it will be a conspiracy theory). We (outside that audience) can argue, discuss, investigate, find out and so on, it won’t matter because the real audience is being led and THEIR reaction is what the campaign is designed to produce. Campaigns are designed specifically for a target; if it sounds weird, idiotic and ridiculous, that’s because the target is weird, idiotic and ridiculous. It’s designed for them, not for us. If they get smarter – maybe by watching Corbett or Truthstream someday, then they upgrade their campaigns a bit. Something like that.

            I can’t buy it. Maybe I’m wrong and indeed the system is starting to crack, stuff is leaking, people are waking up, oh goody, but I cannot buy it. Not after Lula, 9/11, Agenda 21 and everything else.

            Sorry for going so long, I got carried away.

    • mik says:

      Agree, we should look behind the curtain. Not just individuals, their (mis)deeds, but Ideas foremostly.

      First they ruined with pedophilia the image of “moral bastion”, the Church. I really don’t want to defend the Church in any way, but anyway it is very important thing for many people. Unfortunately, because of this psyop many people thrown the baby out with the bathwater.

      Now it might be that “political system” came on turn. Look at pleiad of despicable characters: trump, johnson, juncker… I think every country has at least one.

      Production of chaos, Everything is possible but nothing is Real.
      Let the people be embroiled in hard emotions. Let them lose their mind. Or switch off like many do.

      They will do anything to prevent people from realizing that so called elites are just humans that have to play the game, they must maintain The System (Idea)…..it’s about survival for them.

      The most revolutionary(evolutionary) questions shall not be asked, preferably not even imagined:
      How the System operates, what are its basic premises.

      Is it a mere coincidence that Basic Income recently became Freedom Dividend?

      Sure, a hipster is better idea-salesman for target group (young voting cattle).

      • generalbottlewasher says:

        Mik: that’s great stuff to chew on. If only i had a printing press, all my friends would never want for money or run out of toilet paper.

        Im telling the world the liberal Zionist mind is cracked, completely nuts. Which of course makes my azkenasi Jew friend think Im an antisemetic nut job.

        • alexandre says:

          Yes, milk, now we’re talking. It’s a campaign. I just don’t agree too much with the “they’re only human” and them worrying about maintaining the system etc. They’re so far away from us by now that the word “survival” doesn’t mean anything for them. They are just … “managing” … the system and the people in it, and leading it exactly where they want it to go. We are just outsiders observing the process. We’re not their audience. But yes, it’s a campaign. They indeed shattered the church into a thousand pieces, each piece being a new evangelic new church. Now it’s politics turn. Could very well be.

          GBW – if you’re antisemitic nutjob and your friends are cracked minded nut Zionists, you’d be even then, no?

          • mik says:

            “They’re so far away from us by now that the word “survival” doesn’t mean anything for them.”

            Yes and no. If they stop playing the game they are gone, like driving bicycle, if you stop turning pedals you’ll fall.

            They are game makers and people are merely spectators.
            But I think the main difference between us is World View. They think they are special, in a way they are (game makers). On the other hand, people think that is just how things are, it’s a “natural state of affairs” (game takers).

            At the end is just World View, not they vs. us, it boils down to Idea.
            That is why I said they are just people.
            Most probably, anyone living in their circumstances would behave just the same.

            • alexandre says:


              That’s me thinking.
              Yes, anyone living in their circumstances would behave just the same, otherwise they wouldn’t be in that circumstance in the first place.

              It’s a complicated subject when we think of it, but in general it’s like me and the ants. We have very different world views indeed. I let the ants live in my backyard, but when they “go too far”, I kill them – after all they start killing all my plants. So, what power do they have over me?

              (Actually if ants decided to take over, we would be gone in a day, but interestingly they don’t – just like us).

              Not a good analogy because I don’t need the ants’ “energy” do live, where “they” apparently do need our work (energy) so they depend on us not knowing how it works and continuing pedaling.


              Do they really depend on us? Maybe they did before, but now they need only a small fraction of “us” and the rest they can get rid of. It’s just hard to kill 6 or so billion people, can you imagine the mess? So it has to go slowly, making them kill themselves gradually.

              I have difficulty with the word “people” because when you have a creature that goes from Bartók to pedophilia, maybe you need different words. The range is just too great. Like calling seagulls and 747s “birds”. They both fly but…you know. On the other hand this could be just my failing to understand the true range of a human being, that goes indeed from heaven to hell, so I don’t recognize pedophilia, or that kind of power thirst, as a human thing. I do understand how far the shadow can go and how we ourselves contain seeds of horror that we wouldn’t recognize, but that’s all individually. In their case it’s collective, really like a hive mind, a different creature altogether. Why such a systematic mass psychosis that looks so alien?


              Yeah, I got nothing. I think.

              • cooly says:


                I enjoy reading your posts. You have an active mind.

                This one got my single brain cell rattling.
                You don’t believe that degeneracy or power thirst is a human thing. From my observation, thirst for power and greed are what sets us apart from other creatures. We are an immature and undeveloped species.
                And how can creative genius and disgusting behavior be the range of human potential, that not all humans can be called people. The bummer is that, that is the human package. That is people. Chopin and Jeffrey Dahmer can coexist in the same person. There is not necessarily a range. Humans are an evolutionary misfire. One can speculate that human DNA was seeded by alienDNA a long time ago to achieve a desired result, which might explain some things. But how would one know that for sure? It’s possible I guess. How would I know, or anyone else? I’m just a silly human who talks to his cats and enjoys Gilligan’s Island reruns.

              • alexandre says:

                Cooly – the alien DNA thing, if not provable, indeed explains a lot at least symbolically. If the Queen (of England) is human but acts like an alien psychopath, symbolically she is an alien psychopath (and a very powerful one, since she owns 30% of the land on Earth), and thus we should think of her as such. The problem with David Icke is that he tries to prove it, or put it in scientific terms, which makes it even more silly. I’m content with “symbolically”, for the end result is the same. “Reptilian” for me is a metaphor. So, what do you do when your house is being taken over by insects? You call the exterminator.

                PS – When I tried to live in New York – for about a month – back in 87, I had to call the exterminator to deal with rats in the apartment and when the guy came and rang the bell, it was so funny. I said “Who is it?” and he replied “Exterminator”. I thought “fuck, I’m in a movie”.

                Corbett moved on to Kashmir. Should we all go there?

              • mik says:


                Here we have a nice example how searching for human sub-spices leads nowhere, ends up with reptiles, undeveloped power lusty and greedy creatures… Well, some folks once went other way in this endeavor and find Übermensch.

                On the other hand, pathological greed and power lust are well explained using system perspective (system <– instantiation of idea).

                What is valued and rewarded by present socio-economic system?
                Wealth and material goods are among the top. Should we then be surprised with all the greed and power lust? Environment, circumstances stimulate and reward such a behavior (Milgram!). System abuses human nature.

                Certainly, so called elites are bad, eugenicists, pedophiles… lets say they are abusing the people. But just somehow nullifying them would not bring a salvation. You can add nullifying the bankers, nullifying the state…

                Without a change of system that is abusive in itself, we will have the same shit, just in different package.

                At the end it is an extremely pervasive Idea that is almost never examined, rarely even at TCR. Well, it's hard nut to crack.

                So, epstein like stories are distractive in a way, taking our time for some immediate solution action, taking our attention from really important things, producing "useless" unreal emotions….

              • mik says:

                unreal emotions…

                Once upon the time emotions were reaction on events in our immediate vicinity.
                Now they are triggered by media events, somehow virtual reality. Real emotions because of virtual reality, therefore I said unreal emotions.

              • alexandre says:


                Thanks for that.
                Funny you mention Übermensch, which according to Campbell is a concept that was vastly misunderstood.

                Well, we should talk about this in person, in a restaurant with drinks and smokes, but let’s try here.

                I can understand power, greed, lust etc. I can understand behaviorism (a bit). Even mass madness, a very normal human phenomenon. You can more or less imagine a range from heaven to hell, where even pedophilia is included. All human things. What we have today goes a little bit beyond that, though. To say the elites “abuse people” is like saying Atila the Hun is “inadequate”. Ariel Sharon was a bit more than “a bad person”. When you have a system that doesn’t change over time, where every member implements it systematically and globally without a flaw despite our response and that is so strange in terms of “human” (think killing the dogs of Diego Garcia in front of the children to ‘scare the population away’ – WTF), you have to think that there’s something else.

                They are like ants, much more systematic, robotic, impecable and efficient than any human gang could be. Humans fuck up, it’s in our blood. The military is a powerful machine that can produce beasts capable of playing football with the torso of a baby and yet…they fuck up eventually. Israeli soldiers refusing to serve in Palestine etc. But what we call elites is not like that. It doesn’t fuck up. In fact the eventual fuck ups strangely end up moving their agenda further. Apparently they have no heart, not in a human sense, but in a “another type” sense, thus the metaphoric language. You have to resort to metaphors, like “reptiles” etc because you cannot explain them with the usual scientific behaviorist terminology – or you’re not really getting it. And many people are indeed not getting it, because this goes so much further than greed and power. Maybe you have to be older than 50 to have the reference, I don’t know.

                Then you start a mini-mythology for yourself to place things in a satisfactory manner that science doesn’t come close to do. “The world is governed by reptiles from outer space” is not a scientific statement, but a mythological one. When I think that, and look around, everything fits perfectly. When a revolution doesn’t work, you say “of course not, they are from outer space”. It’s not that you believe that they are really aliens, it’s just a mythology, a metaphoric system to put things in a way that fits reality better for your psyche. It would be an artistic way to say “I don’t know” and “it’s something like that”, and it doesn’t matter if it’s scientifically provable or not. In fact, technology and science is THEIR language, not mine. I’m an artist and as much as I love tech toys, I don’t want science to be THE thing that explains life. It would be as ridiculous as asking a calculator to explain Mahler, which is what I see science doing all the time.

                – to be continued? –

              • alexandre says:

                mik – just to end…

                I’m not nullifying the elites, I’m just finding a better explanation. Greed and power is too weak.

                I agree that “pathological greed and power lust are well explained using system perspective”, that’s perfect, but I don’t think that’s what we’re talking about when talking about the elites, Technocracy etc.

                You’re right about unreal emotions. Unreal everything, since it’s all like CGI. Our conversation would be completely different, I imagine, if we were in person in a restaurant. THIS is already unreal. And all this CGI pseudo real artificial internet reality seems to be completely … “alien”. It’s too boring, meaningless and weird for humans (real humans of long ago perhaps). Remember Arthur Clarke’s wee book “The Sentinel”, at the end the astronaut comes to a “house” with things in it, but the books have blank pages, the bottles in the fridge have a strange liquid inside, like an alien race tried to imitate human things without knowing the substance. What we see happening is exactly like that – strange, as if the elites don’t understand the human dimension and try to imitate it, ending up with a poor CGI artificial kind of stupidity, the horrors and atrocities being just side effects. Their language is not science exactly, but technology, perhaps. After all Royal Raymond Rife was science and it was human, very human, and fantastic science – which was obviously destroyed. So even science was taken over by this imitation race and diverted like everything else. Music, arts, engineering, medicine, everything was (seems to have) changed into this “Sentinel” alien dimension. You can’t explain that with the Sentinel’s language. Mythology (not religion) was the proper human language and we lost that a long time ago, so we’re stuck with the calculator.

                Something like that…

        • mik says:


          “Im telling the world the liberal Zionist mind is cracked, completely nuts.”

          Are you sure this is the only or better said, the biggest obstacle towards a better world?

          • generalbottlewasher says:

            Mik: No there are bigger but it is the irritation of the hour, peeves-dejour! As my liberal minded Zionist golf companion said ” universal incomes a great ideal but Im not paying for it, I got mine” .
            I would hate to pop his bubble but sometimes reality needs to be reconciled , unless you are a Zionist and know what many uses a press has in reaching your goal, like my friend, who champions it but refuses to use real capitol to finance it.
            You got the ball rolling, so what would be bigger than having someone else pay for your contrivences and cheer for your successes. That’s like being tricked into rooting for a tick on or a tapeworm in your belly. Nuts. Zionist nuts. Its parasitic.

            • generalbottlewasher says:

              P.S. Mik. The show ” Hamilton ” is in town tonight. I wouldn’t’ go and I told em ” I would go if Burr would shoot him again and again and again.”
              This is one story where the immediate looser got to rewrite history and the winner is vilified.

              • generalbottlewasher says:

                Mik: you may have something there. The idea. Not the group-dejour that is using the idea. That would necessitate a thought police to eradicate an idea.
                Hmmmmm. No that’s not going anywhere, like a snake devouring its self. Im with Alexandre Im going to Kashmir but Im stopping by the bodega for a 44oz.Polar. my head hurts.

  20. craigtp says:

    Thanks for that informative podcast James and those who contributed,

    After watching your podcast, I decided to take in an hour of various youtube clips after doing a simple search for “Epstein”. It appears at this point, as stated in the podcast, that he (epstein) is no longer a player in this story.

    This is now a story of who is to blame for the lack of security and monitoring, and the ineptness of the MCC. Sleeping guards, fill-in guards, long work hours, falsified documents regarding when the guards checked in, and the like are the headlines. This was the bulk of what corp media is regaling us with.
    I do not believe the security, or monitoring had anything whatsoever to do with what happened. I find this to be the distraction that has already become the proverbial political football.

  21. fragen says:

    Newest reports surrounding the Epstein story; “Autopsy finds broken bones in Jeffrey Epstein’s neck, deepening questions around his death”


    This makes no sense when you consider the New York Posts article a couple days ago which detailed how he hung himself “by kneeling toward the floor and strangling himself with the makeshift noose.” How would there be enough force to break bones if he couldn’t even suspend himself?


    • fragen says:

      The story takes another turn: “Jeffrey Epstein’s body claimed by unidentified ‘associate'”


    • seaandslow says:

      I would caution that the story that he hung himself using a bedsheet came from an unidentified source, and may not be accurate or complete.

      However … you are right. The method he supposedly used to kill himself has the benefit of being relatively painless and not requiring forceful strangulation. Also the source speaks of multiple broken bones, which really implies force. Because lets say on losing conciousness he may have slumped heavily against a very tight bedsheet noose and broken his hyoid bone as mentioned. But multiple broken bones? I cannot imagine that is possible using the kneeled towards the floor explanation of how he died. I suppose we need to be clear if it is multiple fractures of the same bone, or muliple bones? And which bones exactly those were.

      Frustratingly these reports are yet again anonymous.

      • Azra says:

        The problem with the hanging by bed sheet scenario is that the bedsheets were allegedly paper thin according to that former inmate which James referenced, if I recall correctly. There’s so much information it’s difficult to keep track of who said what, when at times.

        In The Times article, “Jeffrey Epstein ‘child rape victim’ sues his estate and former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell” re: victim Jennifer Araoz’s advancement of her sexual abuse claim, states “A post-mortem examination found broken bones in #Epstein’s neck which were consistent with hanging, The Washington Post reported last night, citing two sources.” https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c5270d64-bed9-11e9-8b63-a58ca55a4a3b

        Reuters article via VOA News – “Jeffrey Epstein Autopsy Report Shows Broken Neck, Washington Post Says”:

        “It was unclear if the medical examiner had made a final determination into how Epstein died. NBC News cited an unnamed source as saying Epstein’s body was claimed by an associate.

        “Dr. Zhongxue Hua, the Bergen County medical examiner in New Jersey, said a neck fracture was atypical in a suicide, but warned not to jump to conclusions.

        It’s unusual to have a neck fracture,” Hua said. “But the first question to address is when did it occur.”

        If Epstein’s neck fracture was fresh, Hua said, then “at a minimum, it’s a very unusual suicide.”

        Hua said he was familiar with Barbara Sampson, the chief New York medical examiner, and Michael Baden, a doctor who observed Epstein’s autopsy.

        “The case is in two sets of top-notch hands,” he said. “Both have the highest integrity.” [Cough!]

        Source: https://www.voanews.com/usa/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-report-shows-broken-neck-washington-post-says

        Although official reports say the broken bones in Epstein’s neck are consistent with death by hanging, amongst the bones said to be broken is the hyoid near the Adam’s apple in men. It is said that the breaking of the hyoid bone is more common with “homicidal strangulation” than suicidal hanging. This information was used in the case for the defence of NYPD officers in the death of Eric Garner whose crime was selling cigarettes on the street to passers-by.

        Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/M_wK4kkbQPI/

        • Azra says:

          Geeze Louise, here’s some more information about the cases Michael Baden has ‘handled’. Not only did he chair the federal committee that re-investigated the death of President Kennedy (Baden said it was Oswald) [which we knew], he also chaired the federal committee re-investigation of Martin Luther King, Jr.’s death (Baden said it was James Earl Ray).

          “Working with journalists, producers, and private legal teams, he investigated the deaths of the lost Tsar Nicholas, John Belushi, the president of Poland, Nicole Brown Simpson, Liz McPherson, Kathleen Savio, and, earlier this month, Eric Garner, who died in an alleged choke hold on the streets of New York City. Along the way, he also hosted HBO’s hit series “Autopsy” and landed a contract — active for more than a decade — as a “Death Correspondent” for FOX News.”

          “He now lives in a [pretty darn expensive piece of pie in the sky] sprawling 18th-floor apartment overlooking New York’s Museum of Modern Art, according to the New Yorker. He keeps a dog, a red-headed poodle named after the older, smarter, lazier brother of Sherlock Holmes. And he writes crime thrillers, with the main characters modeled after him and his second wife, Linda Kenney, a high-profile defense attorney.”

          “In 2007, Baden was again in the news for questionable conduct, this time as he took the stand in the Phil Spector murder trial. He had a fresh theory of how Spector’s alleged victim had died, one that provided room for the defense to explain some blood on Spector’s jacket. During cross examination, the prosecutor asked Baden if he had any conflict of interest in this case.

          “None that I can think of,” he said, according to the Los Angeles Times. Moments later it was revealed his wife was one of Spector’s main attorneys.”

          Excerpts from 2014 article: Who Is Dr. Michael Baden, the Coroner That Examined Michael Brown? https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/who-dr-michael-baden-coroner-examined-michael-brown-n183516

  22. ccuthbert2001 says:

    Sorry gang, but this edition could have been about a quarter of the time. Repeating the blather from the msm and thanking subs endlessly did nothing. Not up to your usual standards, James, frankly a waste of time.

    One aspect I don’t see talked about: has any official source said that the death was by hanging/strangulation? And what does a strangulation victim look like? Not like the pix I saw, that’s for sure.

    • candlelight says:


      A million helping hands?

      One can only dream!


    • NES says:

      Perhaps it could have been shorter. However, at the beginning of the video James specifically stated this report would recap “What we know” and “What we don’t know.” It did.

      Thanks, James. Neatly laid out and easy for the Normies to follow–assuming any ever see it. Hopeful on that front.

  23. pete-nc says:

    Good work James
    I noticed the lead investigator for NewYork Times is Vicky Ward who has worked for Vanity fair for over 10 years.

    The interesting part is there are quite a few photos floating around of Vicky and Ghislaine Maxwell together.

    Does anyone have a theory on what’s going on here.

    Links to images



    Looks like she isn’t really researching but controlling the narrative perhaps.

    • calibrator says:

      “Amazing Polly” did some good research into Ward on her YT channel.
      To be honest, I filed Polly under “blind Qanon believer” until I watched her most recent diggings into the Epstein complex.

      Ward “has contributed to, among others, the Financial Times, The New York Times, the London Times, Sunday Times, Daily Telegraph, the UK Spectator Magazine, British Vogue, US Harpers Bazaar and Porter. She has also had on-air contracts with CNBC and Bloomberg TV. She appears regularly on MSNBC’s Morning Joe.”

      And now she announced that she will be working for CNN? For that “shining beacon of investigative journalism”?
      I guess this is because she was always very objective when reporting on people connected to Trump…

      To sum it up: Ward is obviously an establishment “journalist” who writes what she has to. In other words: She is being used and she knows it.

      But she is not alone in this ongoing story.

      The establishment attacks from different flanks to control the narrative and one goal seems to be bring Ghislaine Maxwell out of the range of the “firing squad”. Would they do that if Maxwell was a civilian crook?

      Polly asks: Why is this guy Euan Rellie popping up so often in mainstream media articles and gives his opinion on Maxwell?
      Who is this Euan Rellie guy in the first place?

      He is an investment banker who is the employer/partner of Ward’s ex-husband Matthew Doull (himself being a nephew of disgraced media tycoon Conrad Black, no less).
      But Rellie is also the son of the former MI6 director Alastair Rellie!

      Now Euan Rellie calls Maxwell more or less a victim of circumstance (a belittlement if there ever was one) and downplays her role in that sordid affair.
      Why is he doing that? Out of the good of his heart? Really? Rellie, who has been called an “octopus on crack” when near attractive women?

      But wait – here’s another fun fact about Rellie:

      His wife is the former “it-girl” Lucy Sykes, who is a descendant of Sir Mark Sykes. You know him as the military intelligence officer who co-fathered the Sykes-Picot Agreement and had a helping hand in the approval of the Balfour Declaration!

      While the Wikipedia article on the BD paints him as tool for Britain’s interests it seems to me that he was thoroughly connected to the zionists by that time and that it isn’t so clear who used who more.

      If we can make anything out of that it is at least this: Everybody is connected to everybody in this stinking mess that we call the “free Western democratic system”.
      The common theme seems to be that the Anglo-American high-society caters for itself and uses (intelligence agency) people to accomplish its goals.

      • pete-nc says:

        Love your work!

        • calibrator says:

          Thanks but apart from my commentary, most of the facts for this post come from Amazing Polly. She did really good work on this. See her Youtube channel!

          Although it doesn’t change the overall picture, I discovered the Mark Sykes bit on my own before she did. 😉

  24. calibrator says:

    About the prison staff:

    We all read by now that the warden of the MCC has been temporarily(?) re-assigned to a new position and that two employees have apparently been placed on administrative leave.

    This article by the super-trustworthy NBC news mentions this, too, but has some interesting info at the end.


    “FBI and Justice Department investigators probing Epstein’s death are being stymied by some federal employees who are “lawyering up,” an administration source told NBC News on Tuesday.”

    “While Justice Department rules say all employees “have a duty to, and shall, cooperate fully” with the investigation, some employees have been reluctant to cooperate.”

    So federal employees are “lawyering up”? Are the scapegoats not happy to have helped in getting rid of Epstein?

  25. calibrator says:

    The conservative Brit-tabloid Daily Mail reports that Maxwell is living near Boston:

    They write that the 57 year old Maxwell lives with the 43 year old tech CEO Scott Borgerson in his mansion in Manchester-by-the-Sea.
    However, Borgerson “claimed: ‘I’m traveling abroad for business. Ghislaine Maxwell is not at my home and I don’t know where she is.'”

    Who is this Scott Borgerson? Let’s see what the Daily Mail writes:

    “The socialite’s New England hideaway is an imposing three-story colonial property with five-bedrooms, wraparound terraces and sweeping grounds which reach to the ocean. The property is owned by tech CEO and maritime academic Dr Scott Borgerson.

    Borgerson was seen by DailyMail.com in July running errands in the affluent community of Manchester-by-the-Sea, a half-hour drive from Boston.

    Later, he was seen walking Maxwell’s dog on Boston Common near his apartment where he lives during the week while running his company, Cargometrics, an investment management firm that specializes in analyzing data on global shipping.”

    So the Daily Mail has photos from *July* where he was walking Maxwell’s dog?
    They probably knew the whole time where Maxwell was hiding…

    But it gets even better:

    “The former Coast Guard officer, is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.”

    Borgerson is a member of the CFR? Just like Epstein was at some point?
    Is that some kind of AirB’n’B service for troubled old society girls?

    A former CG officer for several years is suddenly the co-founder of the “NGO” (rather think-tank) Institute for Global Maritime Studies (see on Wikipedia) – and gets invited to the CFR to write articles on “The National Interest and the Law of the Sea” – while fathering his startup CargoMetrics?

    Who finances CargoMetrics, by the way?

    In addition to Maersk Tankers two interesting moneybags: Billionaires Idan Ofer (not surprising, given the nature of his businesses) but also Eric Schmidt of Ex-Google fame. The involvement of the latter points to where the journey is headed.

    ShippingWatch writes:
    “The ultimate goal is to create “full transparency over the supply chain,” and use this to achieve higher returns than the competitors – or “to generate alpha.”

    So, in other words, another technocratic outfit that promises lots of money down the road. And being a member of the CFR still opens more doors than it closes…

    I wonder where Maxwell will turn up next?

  26. kropotkin says:

    After the untimely death of a blackmailer I would expect to see the leverage released all over the internet – so why don’t we.
    JE never implemented a plan to release the evidence as a contingency?

    • cooly says:


      That’s the rub for me, why I don’t believe he is dead. Of course he would have set up a dead man’s switch. It’s inconceivable to me that he would not.

  27. seaandslow says:


    ” … a former federal prosecutor said: “I’ve been on the ninth floor many times, and it really is hermetically sealed from the rest of the population.””

    And I read somewhere else a lawyer describe layers of security on the way to visit a client in the Special Housing Unit, sometimes taking hours to get let into and out of the unit.

    In the case of a homicide Mayor DeBlasio is correct – human error could not have been involved.

    It doesn’t matter how comatosely asleep the guards were, nobody could have gotten to Epstein without passing through many, many locked doors and security checks.

    This was a specifically isolated unit in a maximum security jail. If someone got into him, that would have had to have been coordinated and organised from the perimeter of the prison to the door of Jeffrey’s cell.

    Appartently every inch of the prison is electronically surveiled (except the inside of the cells), which means even if both cameras which look towards the door of each cell in the Special Housing Unit were at that moment not working, the perpetrator would have been visible in other cameras on the way to the unit, and entering and exiting the unit. At 4-6 a.m. there cannot have been too many people coming and going.

  28. calibrator says:

    So they are pulling Prince Andrew out now, too?

    Here’s a tweet I filtered out of the Moon of Alabama-thread about Epstein’s “suicide”:

    Apparently, BBC reporter Brain Taylor tweeted this on the day before yesterday which still hasn’t been picked up by mainstream media (and pretty much anybody else) – so I can’t even guess if it is true.

    “Prince Andrew announced his retirement today from public life after a long period of severe personal stress.
    In a statement, his Royal Highness added he is ‘following advice’ from his doctor.
    There was no comment from #buckinghampalace”


    “A long period of severe personal stress”, eh?

    Epstein on the other hand had only a *short* period of “severe stress” on Saturday morning…

    • calibrator says:

      And, yes, of course this is a parody account on Twitter… 😉

      • calibrator says:

        And now the account has been suspended… 😉

        • Azra says:

          Indeed it has, or at least that tweet has been removed.

          And today, it is announced that the Met Police decided against ‘a full’ Epstein trafficking investigation, surprise surprise. Not! :

          “Prince Andrew has always denied “any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts”.

          “Channel 4 News can reveal that the Metropolitan Police began a review of “available evidence” in 2015 after receiving a complaint over claims in court papers that a girl was “forced to have sex with Prince Andrew”.

          “Channel 4 News also understands that lawyers for Virginia Roberts independently contacted the Metropolitan Police in 2016.

          “The Metropolitan Police said it “reviewed the available evidence” and decided that the matter “would not progress to a full investigation”.

          “It is not clear what constituted the available evidence.

          “The Met Police has refused to answer detailed questions about the allegations and whether they ever spoke to Epstein, his friend Ghislaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew or anyone from the Royal Household.”
          One point that I don’t recall being aware of before is that NAPAC creator Peter Saunders allegedly brought the allegations against Andrew and the possibility of child trafficking in London, connected to Epstein and Maxwell, to the Met’s attention in 2009. Saunders is also on IICSA’s Victims and Survivors’ Consultative Panel. The UK’s “Independent Inquiry on Child Sexual Abuse” aka IICSA, is the official state-sponsored cover-up of rampant child sexual abuse and elite paedophile rings in the UK, which connect with others in Europe and around the world. Epstein’s little black book is filled with the contact details for many of the British elite.

          Please watch this deep state manufactured Channel 4 propaganda news piece which confirms that the aeons old cover-up of child sexual abuse and worse, continues here in the UK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKJdMMUg5JI

          • calibrator says:

            Not surprising, isn’t it?

            “The Met also has significant national responsibilities, such as co-ordinating and leading on UK-wide national counter-terrorism matters and protecting the Royal Family, certain members of Her Majesty’s Government and others as deemed appropriate.”

            Oh, they protect the Royal Family? From what? True allegations?

            And, by the way, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police right now is one Cressida Dick.


            She was educated in Balliol College, Oxford (her father Marcus William Dick was a senior tutor there).
            Balliol College is one of the grooming institutions for the British elite.
            It was thoroughly connected to the Rhodes-Milner circle.

            Other famous people educated there include:
            – The “eugenics brothers” Julian and Aldous Huxley
            – Prime Minister Harold Macmillan – in a time when circus clowns couldn’t enter such an office
            – Prime Minister Ted Heath (“The Death”) who’s sexuality had been questioned and allegations of child sexual abuse popped up post mortem – and who was friends with MI5-spy Victor Rothschild
            – William Rees-Mogg, the father of Jacob
            – Prime Minister Boris Johnson

            Oh, and yes, Ghislaine Maxwell was also educated at Balliol…

  29. irose says:

    this Epstein case that is no more — for a hot moment the veil was lifted…
    Now we all can be safely diverted to discuss the way he died (or not)…

    • manbearpig says:

      Yes, Ian Davis pointed that out yesterday at about half way down this thread. He said:

      “…It is notable that we seem to be moving away from the investigation of the Epstein’s crimes and paedophile connection with the political class to the story being about Epstein and his suicide…”

      A classic bait and switch?

  30. FROM The Hill

    Report: Epstein autopsy finds several broken bones in neck, raising questions
    By Tal Axelrod – 08/15/19 07:20 AM EDT


  31. ddude says:

    Epstein was a rich and famous/infamous person who knew his life was in jeopardy in one way or another.

    According to Acosta, he was told that Epstein was an intelligence agent/asset.

    Can’t imagine Epstein NOT having a “dead man’s switch” unless he was indeed intelligence with complete faith in them taking care of him.

    It is my understanding that intelligence agents/assets are not assassinated because other agents/assets would lose faith in the system.

    The jail situation was ridiculous in the extreme. Nobody is buying any official narrative coming from there. He could have just been drugged into oblivion in the jail, rolled into the hospital in that condition, appearing to be dead – but not. 2nd coroner suspect as hell.

    He could have then been switched out at the hospital and taken to some remote area to receive plastic surgery and witness protection type measures with a new identity. Unless we see that dead man’s switch get triggered, that’s my best shot at what happened given the above.

  32. NES says:

    Did I hear correctly? The only other individual to ever die in MCC custody, supposedly from hanging himself, was a Mafioso who was going to sing to the Feds.

    REALLY? Does no one see the obvious connection?

  33. fieldmouse says:

    A bigger picture review of Epstein connections and possible murder suspects and motives by Partisan Girl.
    Needs to be bigger still. The deep state scenario AKA blackops AKA the bloodlines AKA the hi-techno-crats is not defined by nation states.
    Where is Ted Gunderson when you need him (RIP Ted)?

  34. Nusuth says:

    “But for the present age, which prefers the sign to the thing signified, the copy to the original, representation to reality, appearance to essence … truth is considered profane, and only illusion is sacred. Sacredness is in fact held to be enhanced in proportion as truth decreases and illusion increases, so that the highest degree of illusion comes to be the highest degree of sacredness.”

  35. myra says:

    I apologize if this has been posted. It’s pretty jaw dropping. Esp the end. “Jeffrey Epstein’s Bodyguard on His Former Boss’s Lifestyle, Cruelty, Suicide”


  36. Azra says:

    This is absolutely appalling, disgusting if true, especially given Victoria Robert Giuffre’s claims in the unsealed documents that Epstein had to be “serviced” at least three times a day.

    “Jeffrey Epstein Spent Time Alone With Young Woman In Prison’s Attorney Room” published by Forbes, 15 August 2019:

    The day after he was taken off suicide watch, disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein spent at least two hours locked up alone with a young woman, in a private room reserved for inmates and their attorneys, according to an attorney who was visiting the prison that day.

    “The optics were startling. Because she was young. And pretty,” said the visiting attorney, who asked that his name not be used because he didn’t want to create friction with the prison administration. He speculated the woman could be a lawyer—NBC News has reported that Epstein paid members of his team to sit with him in a room for eight hours a day for attorney-client meetings, allowing him to avoid his cell.

    The visiting attorney went to the Manhattan Correctional Center on July 30, a day after Epstein was reportedly taken off suicide watch and transferred into the Special Housing Unit (SHU). During the hours the visiting attorney was present, it wasn’t Epstein’s main lawyer, Reid Weingarten, or other named attorneys who visited him.

    “If I was him, I would have hired… an old bald guy,” said the lawyer, who said the young woman was in there with Epstein for at least two hours when he was there. He also pointed out that the room is locked when prisoners go in, after their handcuffs are removed, and unlocked only when prisoners leave and handcuffs are put back on.

    Weingarten and other attorneys representing Epstein have not responded to requests for comment by Forbes.

    Cont’d at source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2019/08/15/jeffrey-epstein-spent-time-alone-with-young-female-prison-visitor/#78e8030185b1

  37. in rainbows says:

    Forensic Criminologist Says Epstein Suicide Suspicious

    Short Video:

    A Forensic Criminologist explaining the significance of the broken hyoid bone found in Epsteins neck by the autopsy, and why it means that homicide should be considered:


    • in rainbows says:

      Also from the video:

      “What is suspicious here to me, is what we refer to as the totality of the circumstances. What are the chances, that so many things could have happened at the same time:

      1) Him being suicidal – then being taken off suicide watch
      2) Him being placed in a room with an elevated platform, such as a bunk bed
      3) His room mate being removed from the room
      4) Him being placed in a room with no camera, when he’s the second most high profile prisoner in federal custody other than Guzman (El Chapo)

      As for No. 2 above:

      There appears to be some disagreement as to whether the cell Epstein was in actually had a bunk bed, rather than a low slap for sleeping on, as some cells in the MCC Special Housing Unit have. I personally think there was a bunkbed in the room, because as far as I know he was sharing the room with a cell mate, until he was removed.

      Another thing worth noting is that Published reports say that there has been only one suicide and three attempted suicides in the past 40 years at the MCC, where Epstein was being housed. So it’s pretty rare for anyone to end their life there.

      • in rainbows says:

        Add this to all the ‘coincidences’ and what a high-profile case Epstein was, and how many prominent, and in some cases VERY powerful people, will be breathing a sigh of relief that Epstein died before having to face trial.

    • calibrator says:

      Kevin Shipp missed at least two points regarding the painting with the blue dress:
      – There is a face of a young women hidden in the wrinkles at the knee – an obvious reference to his hobby?
      – Bill Clinton has six(!) fingers on his pointing hand – does it become a revolver (six-shooter)? Clinton body-count?

      The creepy painting of GWB with the paper planes also contains hidden symbolism: His shoe laces resemble scorpions tugging at his feet…

      See here for more details:

      As mentioned, the name of the artist is Petrina Ryan-Kleid.
      Fun fact: “Kleid” is the German word for “dress”.

  38. Libertydan says:

    I tend to stay as far away as possible from such scam bags as Epstein so I have little, to no, first hand knowledge of him, yet it seems clear that he was a pedophile who used under aged victims as a means to blackmail members of the U.S. Government. I have also seen evidence of his connections with Israeli Intelligence. So who would want all this swept under the rug before it had a chance to make it to court? Perhaps the same people that planned out the events of 9/11/01. And, they know how to cover things up, eh!
    Problem solved! Epstein who! What about those shootings? Need more gun control, more diversion and division to distract the masses. Yep, it worked again, eh!

  39. in rainbows says:

    Epstein’s lawyers: “He seemed to be in “great spirits” before he allegedly killed himself in jail . .

    This is interesting, especially in light of these latest autopsy findings. I knew there was some uncertainly as to whether he attempted suicide back in late July, as I’d also heard that he may have been attacked. Those who reckon he took his own life, cite his previous suicide attempt as an indicator of his suicidal state of mind, and that he finally succeeded in killing himself with his second attempt on Aug 10. But this article says he told his a lawyers he was actually attacked back in July, not a suicide attempt. It also says that because he was attacked, this is why he was taken off suicide watch.

    I’ll quote from the article, then give the link to the full article afterwards:

    According to Epstein’s lawyers, the multi-millionaire seemed to be in “great spirits” before he allegedly killed himself in jail. He even told his lawyers, “I’ll see you Sunday.

    It gets even stranger. Epstein allegedly told his lawyers that the neck injuries he suffered in late July were due to an attack by his ex-policeman cellmate, not an attempt at suicide. This revelation is ultimately what got Epstein out of suicide watch.

    Another development in the story is the fact that Epstein was pretty optimistic that he would be able to walk away from the accusations against him.

    The New York Post reports: “Epsteins optimism behind bars expressed during daily visits with his lawyers that lasted up to 12 hours each was so great that it struck some of those around him as delusional, the source said.”

    He thought he was going to win the double-jeopardy motion,” which is what his lawyers were planning on filing.

    Read in full here:


    Same article saved on archive.is


  40. pete-nc says:

    What do you guys make of Maxwell sitting at In and Out Burger supposedly reading “The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives,”

    She certainly doesn’t look like the type to eat there and the reported book.
    Seems like she is sending a message.

    More importantly what was she eating 🙂


  41. el Gallinazo says:

    David Icke released a superlative “dot connector” analysis yesterday dealing with the Epstein situation from a very in-depth, wide angle perspective.


  42. seaandslow says:

    Does anyone else think that if he had commited suicide we would have been told by now? If fact, no matter what happened we would have been told something by now, unless there is a lot of story management going on.
    The initial story that was sold was one of individual incompetence but that doesn’t seem to have been swallowed completely.
    Then came the story of the investigations being stone-walled by employees who fear prosecution. Are they going to stick with that story for a while, or are they interviewing for a patsy as we speak? The problem with that is the prison doesn’t allow for one or two rogue agents to infiltrate it. That story would require a whole lot of patsies.
    So maybe they are hoping to wait us out? Say nothing. Literally.

  43. calibrator says:

    It’s official now: “Suicide”

    “Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide by hanging himself in his jail cell, the New York medical examiner said Friday.”

    The rest of the article is only a recap…


  44. Azra says:

    In 2014, “Tesla and SpaceX founder Elon Musk was spotted at a Vanity Fair Oscar party in West Hollywood with Ghislaine Maxwell, suspected sex trafficker and Jeffrey Epstein’s longtime partner” in crime. Elon Musk is a technocrat, transhumanist as was Epstein. https://cloverchronicle.com/2019/07/18/photo-elon-musk-and-ghislaine-maxwell-seen-together-at-hollywood-party/

  45. zyxzevn says:

    Epstein Strangled? An ER Doctor Weighs In – Stefan Molyneux
    Still needs to see full report.
    Explains injuries caused by hanging, and how
    Epstein could not break is his neck-bones.

  46. alexandre says:

    Just for fun, I thought up the absurd conspiracy theory that Jeff Epstein didn’t even exist. He’s an actor in this whole charade, just like Sandy Hook and all the other mass psyop productions. So I did a search on “Jeffrey Epstein is an actor” and I found this:


    But just for fun, what if we made believe, just for a second, that this whole thing is indeed a Hollywood creation, another psyop produced and completely manufactured from start to finish? Not a real story with fishy bits in it, but an entire reality movie. That’s my proposition. Can we disprove it absolutely? The idea here, I think, is to approach it from the other side. Try to prove it’s NOT a complete fabrication, instead of thinking it’s real and then trying to find out what did happen. And the idea behind the idea behind the idea would be to understand what’s really going on, how deep in the psycho’s mind we are, by changing the viewpoint, a completely different, or inverse, thought process. I mean, Bill Clinton in a dress? This shit is getting silly, folks. It’s like people are seriously investigating stories by Salvador Dali or something. So let’s reverse and start from Dali, and make our way to reality, IF indeed it’s not ALL an illusion.

    Clinton in a dress? Seriously?

    Of course you’re also welcome to tell me to go f…myself.

  47. Qno says:

    It took the mainstream media almost less time to confirm that Epstein committed suicide than it took them to uncover the fact that Osama Bin Laden was behind 9-11.

    BBC News: ‘Jeffrey Epstein death ruled ‘suicide by hanging”. Um, since when did an autopsy RULE anything? That’s what an inquest does.

    And then, this GLORIOUS propaganda piece by the BBC, oh my…
    The fox guarding the henhouse said the chickens just ripped their own guts out, and anybody who even thinks for a second somebody might have killed Jeff – let alone asks to see the body – is batshit crazy. Right? Thanks to the BBC for setting me straight on all this.

  48. seaandslow says:

    Update: Here's a statement from Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers on the medical examiner's autopsy results. https://t.co/gVWyBDG8Na pic.twitter.com/mWRNdtK3Pj— Michael Gold (@migold) August 16, 2019

    Okay good. These guys seem to be taking this seriously.

  49. manbearpig says:

    Though obviously I do not subscribe to all of the author’s (Sacha Dobler of AbruptEarthChanges) ideas, here he cites the hypothèses of German writer, journalist and politician Oliver Janich (who is a total stranger to me). Nevertheless the associations made are provocative:

    “The Climate Change Agenda and Globalist Pedophiles

    “…Now we are getting to an interesting connection. Oliver Janich put forth the following hypothesis: The underlying theme is the constant call by the elite to empower children, children know better than adults.

    Greta’s speech at the UN even literally said ‘you (politicians) are not mature enough’ to decide about climate change. This claim of juvenile competence is intermingled with the claim that children can decide about their own body.

    The same globalists who are applauding climate protest students, and say it is good when teenagers tell the politicians what to do, are the same creeps who want to lower the age of consent. Get children politically active (even though all they know about climate science comes from the state school indoctrination), empower children to lecture their parents about the environments, lower the voting age, these are all globalist, primarily left-green- socialist positions. At the same time, teach little children about sex, lower the age of consent, make pedophilia legal. In the Vatican the age of consent was 12 in 2013…”



    • calibrator says:

      Oliver Janich is a provocative, minor alternate media celebrity in Germany/German language internet.

      Personally, I haven’t just made up my mind about him but he has quite a lot of aggressive followers in forums and that is never good.

      I also don’t think that the instrumentalization of children for the CO2-hoax has anything to do with lowering the age of consent. The latter is, if anything, only a means itself, not an end.

      No, the successful usage of children – or young persons looking like children – is getting widely adopted by nefarious actors in the (dis)info wars.
      See this “conservative” girl for an example of an “Anti-Greta” here:

      She apparently is 18 years old but looks like jailbait…

      • manbearpig says:

        Thanks for a fair appraisal.

        Sounds like this Janich guy might be the kind of trap Alain Soral or Dieudonné are in France. That is to say that, they say a lot of really true things that the politically correct media condemns as tabou, anti-semitic conspiracy theory but they may well be there to attract and corral dissident voices into a place of stigmatization that categorizes and thus effectively silences them.

        Don’t know if that makes sense … I’ll try to look at your link in a little while…

        • calibrator says:

          It could also be just a business model by Janich & co.
          As I said: I’m not sure about him but I also haven’t seen much recently as I concentrate more on international/English speaking sites.

          Also, the link is a mostly German language YT channel. I provided it for the “optics” alone.

  50. seaandslow says:


    “Jeffrey Epstein’s former cop ex-cellmate who is facing life in prison for the murders of four people in a drug deal gone wrong, has been cleared of any wrongdoing related to what was allegedly his first suicide attempt last month.”

    Is this just an error? Up until now Tartaglione has been reported as facing the death sentence.

    That he had been cleared of wrong doing in the first incident was reported early afternoon on Friday 16th, despite prison officials apparently confirming that in an email to his lawyer on Friday 9th. Why did his lawyer not mention that the prison had officialy cleared Nick of involvement when questioned about his client’s role in the earlier incident?

    “We’ve always maintained Nick did nothing wrong and that’s clearly been borne out here by the jail itself,” Barket said.

    So why not mention the email, he got a week ago, earlier?


    I must say he did always maintain that Nick did nothing wrong, but he made it seem that the prison not bringing any discipliniary action against him was proof that he had been cleared of any wrong doing. When he could just have said that the prison had contacted him to let him know that Nick was not suspected of wrong doing.

  51. seaandslow says:

    The timing is interesting as well.
    The first article saying Tartaglione was cleared of involvement in the 26th July incident was published less than an hour and a half before the news broke that the ME had determined the death to have been a suicide.

    The meaning of the news that Tartaglione was innocent is explained to the readers in black and white.

    “What this means is that whatever happened to Epstein was inflicted on himself,” said Cameron Lindsay, a former warden at four federal facilities. “It looks like a pretty straightforward case of someone who wanted to die.”

    Throwing it back to when Bruce Barket was clearly baiting the hook when he said that Nick knows a lot but it would be unclear if he’d be in a position to cooperate.


    And in this podcast:


    At 06:42 he says that Nick will be cooperatative with law enforcement – or not.

    At 04:40 he says that Nick was there during the first ‘suicide’ attempt but cannot talk about what Nick witnessed.

    At 06:00 he is almost speaking gibberish trying to not to catch himself out. He says Nick and Jeffrey were in a cell together. Then, “according to what everybody has reported” Jeffrey was found unresponsive with marks around his neck. Then Nick alerted the corrections officers.

    This was the special housing unit. The door would have been locked. It’s a tiny room. There is a huge blank space that needs to be filled in in the story Nick’s lawyer is telling.

  52. fieldmouse says:

    An important missing piece of the #Epstein puzzle.
    Why was he funded and backed to be a pedophile and go round the world socialising?
    He wasn’t.
    He was a mind control slave programmer and genetecist #MKUltra.
    This is explained at the start of this interview with Hope who is a US mind control survivor and has memories of Epstein as a programmer.

  53. in rainbows says:

    Video Footage of Prince Andrew Inside Jeffrey Epstein’s New York Mansion:

    Video in You Tube


    Full Story (again with the video footage) in the Daily Mail


  54. dindaloody says:

    For people who doubt that this was Epstein at the hospital, it certainly looks like a dead Epstein to me. No, I am not a coroner, but I was a nurse for 35 years, so I have seen plenty of dead bodies. He looks as though he has been dead about an hour. The body fluids settling give the appearance of swelling, and if he was strangled/hung, there would be a lot of congestion around the face and neck, altering the facial features considerably. The skin looks typical of someone deceased, a purple/blue hue and waxy sheen. Although the ambulance staff are still trying to revive him, that’s what they do until pronounced dead by a doctor. They probably realise there’s no way this man will come round again, but they are just doing their job.

    • seaandslow says:

      The photos of him on the gurney seem to dispute the anonymous reports in the Daily Beast that he was “living like a pig in a sty” from the time of the first attempt on his life.
      He is clean shaven and his hair seems to be about the same length and of the same style as usual.

  55. generalbottlewasher says:

    Let the clowns in, Oh? They are already in the room!. The BirkyVille Media hard at work this Sunday August 19, 2019. The Tulsa World head propagandist Wayne Green, editorial pages editor, steps forward with the real agenda. Quote” Too many people die of suicide in America; too many of those who die of suicide do so in jail.”

    Wayne wasn’t this originally a story about raping children?
    You go on to say quote” the appalling number of suicides in the US and Oklahoma reflect that they can be dark and dangerious places that are holding people, many of which don’t need to be there.”

  56. scherry says:

    For James:

    Be sure and click on links inside this link.


  57. seaandslow says:


    The poster in the bus shelter is not the current one, which has been in situ since the 28th of July according to the advertising company.

    Neither do they have any record of that poster ever being posted there. Which leads them to speculate that the image of the poster has been photoshopped in.

    So how long ago was the photo originally taken? The current poster for a hospital would not have been photoshopped out. Neither would a previous poster been photoshopped unless it specifically dated the picture, perhaps by depicting a movie that has already been out quite a while.

    Which leaves us with a few possibilities. One is that this is the work of an opportunistic paparazzo who had the photos on file and decided he could make a pretty penny by passing them off as recent. What counts against that story is the way the New York Post responded to speculation about the photos by editing out the troublesome details. Presumably if the duplicity came from a third party the paper would have printed a retraction apologising and saying that they had been duped.

    Another possibility is that the duplicity came from within the New York Post itself.

    Another possibility is that these photos were staged some time ago, to be used for the purposes they are now being used for. This begets the question, for how long has a ‘G. Maxwell is on the run’ story been planned?

  58. seaandslow says:


    They’ve edited the article again!

    They have now removed all mention that the photos came from an outside source.

    Originally they reported it like this:

    “A source told The Post that a daily regular took the photo.”

    “The photographer told the Post that Maxwell was “perfectly friendly, very lovely”

    “When the Post’s source snapped a picture of the raven-haired 57-year-old, he asked, “Are you who I think you are?” She replied, ‘Yes, I am.’”

    Now, all mentions of the source, plus Ghislaine’s quotes as attributed to the source, have been removed from the article and replaced with the phrase, “The Post found the socialite hiding in plain sight … ”

    When many journalists, from Vice to the Daily Mail to the New Yorker even, are debunking these photos, why is the Post not distancing themselves from them? In fact why are they doing the opposite and removing all mention that they came from an outside source?

  59. seaandslow says:


    Mindblowing thread about same photos. I had not seen the recently added photos to the Daily Mail article.


    But the thread also goes on to connect the photos to Leah Saffian. Please read.

    • calibrator says:

      Indeed very interesting thread – thanks for your continous posting!

      Some stellar things in here like links to bigger versions of the Maxwell-images.

      I thought I was clever when I recognized the ad for the new movie “Good Boys” that just came out.
      But it turns out the ad was inserted into the image…
      Probably to lie about the date the phots were taken

      Or perhaps to convey yet another message (to her handlers)?
      The plot of the movie according to IMDb:
      “Three sixth grade boys ditch school and embark on an epic journey while carrying accidentally stolen drugs, being hunted by teenage girls, and trying to make their way home in time for a long-awaited party.”
      (One of their “adventures” includes a “Real Doll”…)

      Also, the Daily Mail itself actually published an articles about the more or less obvious discrepancies:

      About the “(c)MEGA”-stamp in the main photo:

      “it’s just a photo agency that obviously bought the pics to sell to other newspapers. It appears they bought the already altered/photoshopped pics and not the originals.”

      “the mega agency was founded by Kevin Smith who worked for The Daily Mirror while it was owned by Robert Maxwell”


      So it’s still a family endeavour then?

      • calibrator says:

        Also this article by the Daily Mail from yesterday:


        EXCLUSIVE: Ghislaine Maxwell STAGED In-N-Out photo in Los Angeles with her close friend and attorney, using confidante’s dog Dexter in the snapshot

        – The first picture of Ghislaine Maxwell in more than three years was staged by her close friend and attorney, Leah Saffian, DailyMail.com has learned exclusively

        – Maxwell, 57, was photographed at an In-N-Out burger joint in Los Angeles and the photo was published on Thursday

        – In the photo, Maxwell is seen staring at the camera with a tray of food and two drinks. A dog, understood to be Saffian’s dog named Dexter, is at her feet

        – Saffian, 60, is president of Meadowgate Media Investments Inc, according to public records

        – According to the photograph’s metadata, reviewed by DailyMail.com, the photograph is tagged with ‘Meadowgate’

        – Saffian and fellow barrister, Alun Jones QC, an (Peters & Peters) represented Maxwell’s brother Kevin for the firm Peters & Peters in the British courts

      • seaandslow says:

        A family endeavour – you said it right. Former family employee Leah Saffian takes photos and gives them to former family employee Kevin Smith to distribute.

  60. seaandslow says:

    After studying the randomly and nonsensically photshopped G. Maxwell photos from the In-n-Out Burger, the only conclusion I can come to is that the release of these photos was a pre-planned red herring, designed to be a mystery that could be almost solved, so as to scatter attention from and dilute the story of Epstein’s death.

    The beginnings of this deception are there in the first, and only, official press briefing (emphasis on brief) by AG Barr when he leads with the first mis-direction of institutional incompetence and follows with a shot at co-conspirators. Actually the Daily Mail was the first to turn attention towards G. Maxwell about seven hours after the news of Epstein’s death first broke and they have been pushing that angle of the story with the New York Post ever since. The New York Post is interesting in that they were the first to get the story the Epstein was dead (the Daily Mail was second), along with the photos of him being brought into hospital. They were also the ones who published the In-n-Out photos of Ghislaine and have stood by them.

    What they didn’t stand by was a report that AG Barr had visited the MCC around the time of Epstein’s 26th July incident.

    On the first mis-direction, the acting head of the BOP has been returned to his old position and a permanent director put in place. But we are not told that this has anything to do with Epstein. The only way to connect the two is because of the timing. AG Barr in his statement does not mention any failures, in fact he commends Hurwitz for doing a good job and says they will be working together closely when Hurwitz returns to his former role.
    Senator Ben Sasse has responsibility for pushing this angle of the story into the limelight because of his public letter to AG Barr on the day Epstein died basically calling out the prison as inadequate.

    The news that the ME decided Epstein had died by suicide was released after 4pm on a Friday, which is when Seymour Hersh said a story gets released that people do not want picked up. Everyone has left their offices and won’t be back until Monday morning so there is little chance to get a statement from anyone which could bump the story back into the headlines.
    By then, a story planted about Maxwell being spotted in L.A. could have absorbed everyone’s attention and the M.E.’s report will be old news. It is so much more interesting to go after a breadcrumb trail of solveable clues even if it leads to a deadend, than to follow up with the central aspect of the story when that has ground to a halt.

    Hopefully the New York Post can take some heat over the Maxwell photos (maybe somebody in America has a way to report them for publishing photos they knew had been photoshopped). Otherwise this planted side-story looks like it has worked perfectly for what it was needed to do.

    • seaandslow says:

      “Pre-planned” because of the bus shelter poster not being the one that has been up since the 28th of July and because taking photos of someone in public attracts the attention of those nearby, it’s just a normal relfex to look over when someone is posing for a photo. Certainly in the days after Epstein’s death, but maybe even earlier than that, it would have meant taking too big a risk of being recognized.

  61. calibrator says:

    Another try to get Epstein from the news?


    Katy Perry has been accused of sexual misconduct by a female television presenter who claims the singer tried to kiss her at a party.

    Tina Kandelaki claimed she had to fend off unwanted advances from the Firework singer at a private function but did not specify when the alleged incident took place.

    The allegation follows claims by a male model that the singer pulled down his trousers and exposed his genitals at a party.


  62. calibrator says:

    At least the author of the CIA-book Maxwell was allegedly reading has some fun and comments here:


    Ghislaine Maxwell read my book at In-N-Out Burger. Then it sold out on Amazon.

    Welcome isn’t the half of it. In the day since the book was mentioned in Maxwell’s allegedly nefarious hands, the book has skyrocketed on Amazon rankings from the torpid depths of the mid-300,000s to a sizzling No. 103, closing in on bestseller status among nonfiction books. But then it apparently sold out on Amazon. My agent is contacting the publisher to try to get more books sent over there. (Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos also owns The Post.)

  63. seaandslow says:


    We decline to comment.

    This doesn’t add much to the discussion. I just thought this official response to a request for basic information summed up the attitude of the state from the beginning of this saga until now.

    Read more,


    • alexandre says:

      Wow. Incredible. That’s a big problem, not only about cameras, but with everything else. “We decline to comment” and that’s that. What should happen after such reply is something like a big law suit or some actual real legal action to force a response, but…that doesn’t seem to exist, so they can give ridiculous responses like that. They do whatever they feel like and “what are you gonna do about it, punk?”

  64. doublek321 says:

    Not sure if this is related or not but “Kai the hatchet wielding hitchhiker”, (who went viral back in 2013 for the interview below) talked about some 30 year old, 300 pound dude who bragged about raping a 14 year old while on a business trip in the Virgin Islands.

    Maybe this story needs to be revisited? Interestingly, a few months later, Kai was arrested for murder of New Jersey attorney Joseph Galfy (which he said was in self-defense because Galfy tried to rape him).


  65. Simon says:

    Epstein, the financier and convicted sex offender, signed a will detailing nearly $600 million in assets just two days before he killed himself in a Manhattan jail cell. In the will, he named biotech venture capitalist Boris NikolicOpens a New Window. as “successor executor,” the person who would take control of the estate if the two named executors are unable or unwilling to.
    Nikolic is a physician who completed postdoctoral training at Harvard Medical School, where he also served as an assistant professor. He previously served as chief advisor for science and technology to Bill Gates. Nikolic, a Harvard physician (2016) with a background in immunology, advised Gates’ Catalyst 3 (bgc3) as well as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. He led a $120 million round in which Gates and 12 other investors last August funded the hot CRISPR gene editing startup Editas Medicine. He also participated in a $61 million round this year for Twist Biosciences, a synthetic DNA startup.
    As co-founder and managing director of health care and life sciences venture investing firm Biomatics Capital, Nikolic sits on the boards of directors for several of its portfolio companies.
    After leaving Gates in 2014, he funded more than a dozen firms in gene editing and other health technologies. A prospectus for a successful public offering of one of those gene companies, Editas Medicine Inc., said he controlled a stake worth $42 million. He was hosted at Harvard as recently as 2014 by George Church, a biologist who oversees the Harvard Human Genome Project, according to online calendars. Epstein provided funding to the project. Church founded eGenesis, to develop synthetic organs, as well as Editas. Both firms received early investments from Biomatics Capital, where Nikolic is one of two managing directors. Biomatics, which is based in Boston and Seattle, is run by several former staffers from the Gates Foundation and Gates Ventures.

    Q: What does vaccines and gene editing / cloning / human DNA manipulation have in common?
    A: Everything!

  66. zyxzevn says:

    Morphonios has a long series about Epstein.

    He has done detective work on sex-trafficking, and
    understands the juridic system.

    #14 Jeff Epstein Becomes an FBI Informant
    M discusses the evidence around the sweetheart deal.

    #13 The Epstein Case is Sabotaged by the US Attorney’s Office

    #12 Meet Epstein’s Russian Bodyguard, Igor Zinoviev

    #11 Alex Acosta Throws Epstein’s Victims to the Wolves

    #10 Why Were Epstein Victims Afraid to Talk to the FBI?

    #9 Krischer Uses Grand Jury to Torpedo Case Against Epstein

    #8 The Dirty Dershowitz Hit Job on Jeff Epstein’s Victims

    #7 How Prosecutors Stabbed Epstein Police Detectives in the Back

    #6 Epstein Races to Silence Victims Before Police Can Find Them

    #5 Stand Up Poet Benny Wills – Break Free From the Matrix

    #4 Jeff Epstein Victim Tells Her Tragic Story – NSFW

    #3 Police Catch a Major Break in the Epstein Investigation

    #2 The Amazing Story of How Jeff Epstein Got Busted

    #1 Jeffrey Epstein & Other Powerful Perverts

    Shocking New Epstein Documents Unsealed – Files Reveal New Details

    Jeffrey Epstein Found Dead from Alleged Suicide

  67. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Another coincidence…

    August 28, 2019 – Zero Hedge – “Tyler Durden”

    FBI Crime Lab Analyzing Two Broken Cameras From Outside Epstein Cell
    An FBI crime lab is examining two cameras from the area outside Jeffrey Epstein’s cell which reportedly malfunctioned the night he died, according to Reuters, citing a law enforcement source.

    The two cameras would have had a view into the Manhattan jail cell where, on August 10, Epstein was found hanging by his bedsheet in what has been ruled a suicide.

    The cameras were sent to Quantico, Virginia, site of a major FBI crime lab where agents and forensic scientists analyze evidence.

    The Washington Post reported on Monday that at least one camera in the hallway outside Epstein’s cell had footage that was unusable. The newspaper said there was other usable footage captured in the area. -Reuters

    During a Tuesday court hearing, Epstein’s lawyers Reid Weingarten and Martin Weinberrg told US District Judge Richard Berman that they doubted Epstein committed suicide, and that the pedophile’s injuries were “far more consistent with assault” than hanging, according to Weingarten.

    Weingarten cited the defense’s own medical sources. Broken bones were found in Epstein’s neck during an autopsy after he died Aug. 10.

    Such fractures are somewhat more common in cases of strangulation than in hanging.

    Weingarten told the judge that when he and other defense attorneys spoke to Epstein shortly before his death “we did not see a despairing, despondent, suicidal person.”

    Weingarten’s comments came during a proceeding where prosecutors were seeking the dismissal of child sex trafficking charges against the Epstein as a result of his death. -CNBC

    …Mike Krieger shared his incredulity on the matter also:
    “They must be joking.
    Apparently TWO cameras malfunctioned outside of Epstein’s cell?
    This would be almost comical if it wasn’t so infuriating”

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      August 28, 2019 – Another Zero Hedge article (at Activist Post)

      Epstein’s Own Lawyers Tell Court He Likely Died By “Assault” As Federal Case Dropped


      …Weingarten said Berman had a “pivotal role to find out what happened.”

      “We want the court to help us find out what happened,” Weingarten said.

      “We’re skeptical of the certitude” of the finding of suicide by hanging by the New York City medical examiner, the lawyer said.

      There are “significant doubts” regarding “the conclusion of suicide,” Weingarten said.

      Federal prosecutor Maurene Comey told the judge that Epstein’s death is already subject of “an ongoing and active grand jury investigation.” Comey explained, “It is not the purview, respectfully, of the court to conduct an investigation into uncharged matters.”….

  68. nightingale says:

    This may be just one of those ‘coincidences’, but listen to Trump’s words on Twitter relating to the incoming Florida-bound storm:


    If that doesn’t sound like a metaphorical warning to his cohorts and fellow child-abusing parasites, I don’t know what could.
    “It hit the Virgin Islands, but not as bad as it could have”
    “…Could be an absolute monster..”
    “..almost certain that it’s hitting dead center..”
    “..bigger, or at least as big as ‘Andrew’..”
    Maybe, just maybe I am finally losing a grasp of reality and deep faking my own discernment skills.
    Brace yourselves folks, the orange one has spoken.
    Take care all

  69. karl.h says:



  70. Mark K. P. says:

    interesting article on Epstein circle connections, not just Maxwells (Hochs) and Wexner, but the “philanthropist” Megagroup of billionaires and their close connections to organized crime ;

  71. manbearpig says:

    The following is a short and very popular video on internet that I only recently discovered.

    It reminds me of the whole Jeffrey Epstein Suicide-or-not discussion:


    It also very aptly explains how 3 colossal, high profile buildings can be destroyed through controlled demolition smack in the middle of Manhattan costing thousands upon thousands of people their lives… with total impunity…

    and of course a lot of other stuff…

    • alexandre says:

      MBP, you never cease to amaze us. I didn’t spot any, not even one. And I work with CG and TV ad films and stuff. That’s why I’m so pessimistic about our chances. If people that know the tricks can be so easily tricked themselves, imagine the poor old normies out there. Put that magic shit together with psychology, philosophy, mythology and “malacagem”, and you become invincible!

      In the 911 whistle-blowers series you see how much they got away with. Shyam Sunder alone should have triggered a revolution. We must understand that their audience is indeed THAT gullible, and they really don’t give a shit about the few who know. They design their campaigns to their targets and nothing else. They know very well what they can get away with and how ridiculous they can get. As I always say, Bush “A.E.Neuman” junior was already inexplicable, but Trump was unimaginable to anyone older than 50. They can put Bozzo in the White House and nothing will happen, as long as CNN calls him “Mr President”.

      Good one, Brian!

      • manbearpig says:

        “…Put that magic shit together with psychology, philosophy, mythology and “malacagem”, and you become invincible!…”

        Except that it’s not “magic shit” at all! It’s not about manipulating mysterious exotic forces emanating from some netherworld.

        It’s just about weaponizing a profound understanding of Human nature.

        We need selective attention. We need selective amnesia and the need to belong to a group, and to feel completely outside of it and we need to be able to discriminate and to feel empathy and anger and indignation…
        We need all this to survive.

        But it can all be weaponized against us. Especially if we refuse to look at and understand ourselves.

        I’m sure some famous ancient general once said sometime way back when:

        “Know thyself! Know thyself better than thine enemy doth! (people used to lisp a lot) Or you shall becometh thine own worst enemy! Thou shalt be turned against thine own bretheren and stumble trapped within a hall of mirrors until the end of time!!” HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

        I think most of us are eminently malleable because we’re afraid to look at ourselves squarely in the mirror. So ambitious opponents can do what they want with us as long as we don’t have to contemplate our own true nature

        our own true, incredibly beautiful human nature…

        how tragic

        so, as long as CNN calls him Mr President

        we’ll say Amen!

        (now I gotta go look up “malacagem”..sounds like some kinda hex or ancient curse or something…)

        • alexandre says:

          Malacagem is a Brazilian word – I don’t think they say that in Portugal – that is a corruption of the word “malandro” which menas “scoundrel, vagabond, rascal”. I don’t know if these English words include deception, lie, fooling people, trickster etc. The “malandro” is that wise guy that fools you deeply, full of tricks, makes you believe he’s your friend etc. Street wise guy, he’ll rob you and you’ll only notice a month later. Malandro/malaco. Malandragem /malacagem. The termination “agem” is like “ness” more or less, like in foolishness. In bad English it would something like “motherfuckerness”. Hey, I’m only being technical here.

          Man, I know myself as much as I could – read Jung all my life, 11 years in analysis, I know all about “know thyself”, but still….these mother****ers get you all the time. That “magic” trick video was amazing.

          Do you give classes in Shakespeare English? I have a Shakespeare (Bacon?) book that half of it is the translator explaining himself and how hard it is to translate, and it has both Portuguese and the original in English, but I can’t understand that English at all. Would loveth to speaketh like thatth. And be ableth to readeth thy booketh.

          • manbearpig says:

            I didn’t catch anything in the video either

            which is painfully but temporarily ego-crushing. And instructive.

            and my iambic pentameter is pretty rusty…

            So, someone enjoying “malac agem” status will steal you blind, a master of deception, but will “he” murder a friend or family?

            • alexandre says:

              Probably, if necessary, but he would never make it look like he did it. No one would ever know anything, and at the end he’s on top. And, as in any species, you have different kinds. The soft malandro, which wouldn’t hurt anyone, the psychopath who kills his family for 100 bucks and so on. It’s interesting to try to define the malaco so technically. Never did it before. Not too easy. And malacos have swing, meaning, they’re not like those executives idiots like Shyam Sunder, who have no swing at all. Those are university well educated psychos. Malacos are more the street type – learned life on the streets, thus the swing. The Queen has no swing at all, but she has legions of swinging malacos working for her. Further more, you need much less swing today to fool people than you needed back in the old days. Hmmm….maybe I should write a thesis on the subject… (I can hear Corbett “no, please don’t!”)

              • cooly says:


                “They have swing.” What a cool way to describe it. That will now be a part of my mental vocabulary.
                And on the contrary- if you did write a thesis on it, Corbett would probably find that to be an interesting read. I know I would.

              • alexandre says:

                Cooly, yeah, and another word I just remembered is “scammer”. They’re scammers. Swing comes from my jazz (old real jazz) vernacular. “It don’t mean a thing if it ain’t got that…..swing”. It’s a street thing, as was jazz originally. Now it’s school endeavor, so….it ain’t got no swing at all. The funny thing is to see bastards like Obama or Trump thinking they got swing.

                No thesis, I couldn’t even begin. I ain’t got the mental discipline and order to write a thesis on anything. I got too much swing!

    • pearl says:

      What’s even more painful is that I keep falling for these tricks!! Somebody slap some sense into me.

      The gorilla suit sitting off to the side reminded me of the first one (that had to be a wink to Simons & Chabris):


      • manbearpig says:

        Look out for cyclists… and the moonwalking spin-off


        Is there an electric scooter and unicycle craze where you are?

        • pearl says:

          There is! It’s been a while since I’ve gone downtown, but I hear that the daring feats of people on the e-scooters have caused a few accidents and plenty of anxiety to motorists. After failing each of these tests, I’d better steer clear of the area myself.

          And unicycles! My kids went through that phase a few years ago. Uphill, downhill, even through brushy terrain, like a mountain bike. They never did get around to “extreme unicycling”, though it did appeal to the more adventurous one; not enough hours in his day, fortunately.

          • manbearpig says:

            Waste ended by social credit: Smart!

            all these scooters seemed to just pop up one day, literally overnight and from what I see it’s the same all over the west…

            apparently the question is whether it’s better to own or “share” with apps Lime, Bird for example…

            Grassroots? or a contrived mechanism to get people into the sharing or circular Smart economy as proselytized by Ida Auken (if you haven’t seen it):

            (if you’re in a hurry you can start at 10:08)

            first bikes, then scooters, driverless cars, household appliances, phones, living rooms,


            don’t worry, things’ll be clean, because

            now we rate people, right? (verbatim) and

            it’s cheaper apparently…

            so it’s better!…?

            Uber as an emblem of the efficient small-scale economy?

            gives a new dimension to the word


            • pearl says:


              Well, come to think of it, there was that clamorous worldwide movement parading through every big city’s streets shouting, “we need instant access to e-scooters downtown NOW!” Yeah, remember? It coincided with the driverless car demand! I remember feeling so warm inside to the point of weeping, to actually be part of something so smart and sustainable.

              Damn…good catch, mbp.


              With “reality” shows like “wifeswap”, I guess it’s only a matter of time.

              That was a seriously intensive presentation of dystopian nature. Is there any place left to fly away to?

  72. GHT says:

    Here is another link that may have some info on big tech,Epstein and Surveillance/Pre crime.


    Please coment if this link is bogus, I have found many of the things to be true in it but could not confirm everything in it. Grain of salt.

    • alexandre says:

      I wouldn’t know as this stuff is way over my head, but looks good. There’s a pro Assange piece there at MPN, by Mnar Muhawesh – founder, CEO and editor in chief of MintPress News – that made me suspicious. Following manbearpig’s magic video, we must be en garde for deceptions everywhere. But the article you mentioned by Whitney Webb sounds good.

      As a personal feeling, every time I see anything focusing on Israel, Mossad etc, I have my doubts. Israel is like a magic lantern show, a labyrinth, a russian doll or something where you never really know anything, and it’s a favorite villain of the fake conspiracy people. So I don’t know. Not much of a help, but just a comment.

      • alexandre says:

        Just another thought. How hard would it be to have someone like Whitney Webb “sleeping with the fishes” there in Chile? Would she be “revealing” so much about Don Corleone if it was really real? When the detective was hired to investigate Barry Jennings death, remember this detective came back after a month, refunded the money and asked the guy never to call him again? That sounds more like the real thing. You don’t write in a magazine about Don Corleone and stay breathing for long, even if you’re far away in Chile. It would be just a nice vacation for Luca Brasi. Bill Cooper could be another example, and all in the Requiem for the Suicided series.

        “They better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” And they don’t.

        Just more comments on my suspicions on MPN, sorry.

      • cooly says:


        This response is not in the correct order because the reply tab is sometimes not there.

        Anyway, knowing that you are a jazz man, I knew why you used that word. And it fits perfectly.

        Most jazz I hear I just don’t understand. I grew up listening to various forms of rock music, mostly what was called prog-rock, like Yes, Genesis, Camel, Rush, and maybe Pink Floyd fits in that category. But I have heard some Coltrane which is very cool, and the old Nat King Cole Trio stuff is priceless. He had swing back then, before he went commercial.

        • alexandre says:

          To cooly:
          Funny I started with rock as well, more or less, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Queen, Led Zeppelin and some other stuff, but those were my sister’s albums. When I heard Wes Montgomery at my dad’s house for the first time, I was hooked. Resembles the situation in “The Jerk” – I think, Steve Martin? He finds out “his thing” when he listens to some white jazz orchestra, very funny. And yes, it’s not exactly pop music. A drummer once said that our audience are the musicians themselves, and I agree. On the other hand…I played modal free stuff on the streets and I saw people getting out of the bus and stopping to check us out. Without knowing shit about jazz, something was there that they liked, and that’s a fantastic thing. No experts, no media, no opinions or explanations, just the gig and the listener in direct contact. Some stayed, others went away, and that’s fine. It’s how it’s supposed to be. I don’t know if it’s related to anarchism, but it’s the absence of the obstacle between the subject and the observer (by obstacles I mean media, critics, explications, experts, record companies etc). That was a great experience, but I’ll stop or I’ll go way further than 500 words. In any case, swing has good and bad sides. Jazz would be the good side. Malacos, the bad, but still…they have it, and people should watch out for that. Elon Musk has the swing of a hydrant, but boy is he a malaco…

  73. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Late, late October 2019 (10/30) Epstein was murdered!

    Corbett Report Member “zyxzevn” gives links to Jason Bermas and other sources which discuss the strangulation, among other aspects.

    October 21, 2019
    Interview 1484 – Ripple Effect Roundtable on Epstein 9/11
    On this special 200th episode of The Ripple Effect podcast, James Corbett, Jason Bermas, Sam Tripoli and Whitney Webb join host Ricky Varandas for a roundtable discussion on Jeffrey Epstein, 9/11, and all the other tentacles of the octopus conspiracy.

  74. HomeRemedySupply says:

    October 31, 2019 UPDATE
    Interview 1489 – New World Next Week with James Evan Pilato

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