When Did Bin Laden Die? – Questions For Corbett #039

04/14/201850 Comments

So we were told Bin Laden died in 2001. Then we were told he was dead in 2002. And 2005 and 2006 and 2007 and 2009 before he was killed again in 2011. So which is it? And how do we know? Good question. Join James as he explores this and other conundrums in the 39th edition of Questions For Corbett.

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  1. Fawlty Towers says:

    You do realize that:

    a) the correct translation is completely different than what
    the subtitles say in this video and have nothing whatsoever
    to do with Bin Laden?

    b) the original video was recorded BEFORE the alleged Bin Laden
    death in 2011?

  2. scpat says:

    In regards to managing downloaded videos, articles, etc. Besides sorting the files into a folder structure I would recommend using “tags” that make sense for you and that you can type into the finder to easily locate them in the future.

  3. I Shot Santa says:

    I confess that one of my greatest assets to my filing system is that I use a pretty fine filter in regards as to what gets downloaded onto my hard drive. Having access to too much information can paralyze you. Information itself is only potential power, not power itself.

    I’m glad I’m not you, James. Though I imagine you are loving the variety and depth of all the questions you get. I just had my fill of it nerding out in college. I’d never even heard of the 1871 question of Pike. Of course, I’ve only given the barest of glances at the whole masonic/illuminati thing. It just gets too crazy too quickly for me. I did like that one guy who was talking about the importance of having people who could understand the context of the systems (physical and mental) of the time period of the JFK assassination. It’s too easy to view historical events from the perspective of the reader’s time.

    My question regards a subject you have undoubtedly covered at length, but I have only followed you for a few years now. Feminism. I despise feminists. From our earliest years, under the tyranny of male dominance, the human vagina was regarded as a portal to higher dimensions. It represented everything better in our world. While this was not a perfect system, I think that we men were doing a pretty fair job of viewing women in a positive light. Today, people wear a vagina on their head and call that progress for women. Feminists have made a lot of headway into destroying the natural power of women. The sex that Troy would remember today if Helen’s power wasn’t so great. What is your take on the feminist movement? And do you think that beast will die an agonizing death soon? JimBob don’t mind asking the questions you’ve no doubt been asked 10,000 times before.

    • I Shot Santa says:

      Re-reading this one, I can’t believe I called that a question. I just get so ticked at feminists. Under feminists, women went from being goddesses to just meat. JimBob who was raised to open doors for women and still can’t figure out how that oppresses them.

    • mkey says:

      You don’t have any question marks there, but that’s a fair question you implied. Feminism is certainly an important topic, starting before WWI and the Rockefeller funded white feather movement, something James did talk about on that WWI thingy in Denmark (I think) and his QFC copout. But I doubt feminism is something James gets to see that often in everyday life, because feminism, and especially third wave feminism, is mostly a western construct which, I’d wager, doesn’t have a lasting hang time in the East.

  4. TampaDave says:

    SPOOKY to see tomorrow’s date under the title… you sent it back in time to Friday the 13th? Or is it an artifact of the IDL?

  5. laurey says:

    AMAZING but I do not have a question at this time! I am such a curious georgina, but I only want to say THANK YOU!

  6. laurey says:

    But, JAMES! please practice a bit more Zen and have a complete holliday from this morass. MY (unsolicited) advice is to NOT post a darn thing and focus on the Family and your serenity (probably a conflict right there, eh?). Much appreciation.

  7. Mark K. P. says:

    re Daniel’s questions and James’ response (from 48:00) yes money and trading can save the world, and some people are trying to turn the present system against its owners. Probably most famous these days is Ronald Bernard, a Dutchman who used to work for the banksters but bailed out when they wanted him to get into child sacrifices.
    Bernard calls himself a Social Entrepreneur and these days runs the “Bank of Joy” with the aim of demonstrating how beneficial a benevolent organization of capital and investment can be, even within the present system. Though he doesnt stop there and views this enterprise as an initial step in the peaceful overthrow of the present system.
    Anyhow since he worked within the BIS “global casino” he is acquainted both with real figures and the research work of various European firms on the financial elite who own almost everything (circa 8,000 people dominated by 13 major family groupings). In 2010 about 63 trillion dollars were needed to run the world economy while a trading capital of about 1,700 trillion was transacted and gambled by the elite through the BIS ; by 2016 this had grown to 77 trillion circulating among the rest of us while the elite was gambling with a whopping 75,000 trillion ; or enough for every man woman child on the planet to have 10 million in an account.
    These figures appear in the following Bernard lecture (Dutch with subtitles);

    Although these figures may partly represent funny money they shouldnt be dismissed as fictional. They fundamentally represent the order of wealth generated by industrial and other modern technologies, coupled with the human labour of some three centuries exploiting those technologies. No one would dispute the dramatic rise in living standards in the west during that period , nor that technology is the key. It’s certainly possible for the vampiric monetary system to be overthrown and for the technology to remain and become enhanced.

  8. rob32367 says:

    As for JFK info – in addition to Kings & Kennedy’s website and JFK facts website, I like:
    It is easily searchable on the facts.
    And for audio listen to Mae Brussel about all things in the 60’s & 70’s

    As for books, start with Mark Lane’s Rush to Judgement to see how the WC screwed up. JFK & the Unspeakable is one of the best, James DiEugenio books Reclaiming Parkland & Destiny Betrayed, Fletcher Prouty JFK the CIA, Vietnam, and the plot to Assassinate JFK, and For all of the assassinations of the 60s DiEugenio & Lisa Pease published The Assassinations.

  9. manbearpig says:

    I’ve always wondered what you thought about the IPS… guess you probably answered that and I missed it…

    in fact,

    Did I ever mention that it could be an interesting adventure to do an interview, say… with William Pepper, or why not Peter Dale Scott or that Spanish guy…Daniel Estulin…or …? or with anybody really, about the

    Warburg funded

    Institute for Policy Studies

    (whose office is in Washington D.C.)

    and their role in the creation of the New Left…?

    1963. Interesting time…

    “Our Mission: IPS is a progressive think tank dedicated to building a more equitable, ecologically sustainable, and peaceful society. In partnership with dynamic social movements, we turn transformative policy ideas into action.”


    Have a nice vacation!

  10. NoMeatNoDairyNoProblem says:

    When a supposedly progressive-leaning website like reddit upvotes virtually anything which shows the U.S. military in a positive light and buries virtually anything which shows the U.S. military in a negative light, I have to wonder what in the world is going on.
    I personally don’t think it’s even possible for this degree of military worship to genuinely exist on reddit and suspect that I’m actually seeing an example of next-level deep-state restructuring of a public forum through vote manipulation & shill posting. Have you come across any evidence (anecdotal or other) which might indicate that this is indeed what’s happening?

    • Fawlty Towers says:

      I personally don’t think it’s even possible for this degree of military worship to genuinely exist on reddit and suspect that I’m actually seeing an example of next-level deep-state restructuring of a public forum through vote manipulation & shill posting.

      Easily solved.
      Just make it a mandatory cellphone registration site like Steemit. 🙂

  11. St Gregory of Nyssa says:

    I have a question for Mr Corbett. How can you claim to fight against oppression when you embrace and propagate one of the most oppressive doctrines imaginable: namely, that some people are born psychopaths, whereas others are born normal?

  12. ryan.s says:


    One of your questions was “How rich do you need to get to fight the NWO?” You answered that it’s not about money. You also added that while profit was not inherently bad, generally the super rich are almost always corrupt and did something bad to get where they are. You finished by saying: “prove me wrong.” I intend to give some examples of non-corrupted rich people.

    -Nassim Nicholas Taleb: He is a hedge fund manager and professor in risk management. He made a fortune (likely tens of millions) shorting the market in 2008 due to his knowledge of Austrian Economics (real economics lol). He didn’t screw anyone over by doing this. He made a voluntary agreement with people who trusted his advice in the financial markets. He got rich through purely voluntary transactions.

    Nassim endoresed Ron Paul in his presidential campaigns. Moreover, he’s been very vocally against the Federal Reserve, and more importantly, he’s been strongly against the current escalation with Syria. He’s very vocal and adamant that it was not Assad. I really do respect what he stands for; being austrian economics and non-interventionism, I just feel like he’s always on “our” side (anti-war, voluntaryist, doesn’t make money off coercion).

    -Mark Spitznagel: Is another super rich guy (billionaire) who I think is also on the side of the good guys. He was the economic advisor to Ron Paul’s campaigns, being on the side of Liberty. He gets his money off voluntary transactions. He’s worth about 6 billion and is pretty much the same boat as Nassim (investor off Austrian economic principles).

    -Gary Heaven: Founder of Curves (gym for women only). He also got rich off voluntary transactions. Moreover, he’s been vocal in the public light about the inconsistencies of 9/11; which is very dangerous for the CEO of a large company to do. Gary has also been vocally against these “Arab Spring” regime change wars (since he saw through them because of 9/11). Another “risky” position for CEO of a major company, especially in US where everyone tells you to “support the troops” like it’s some sort of religion.

    Moreover, when the earthquake occurred in Haiti, he took all of his boats and went over there to bring supplies and helping the Haitian people. During his time there, he tried to expose the corruption of Hillary Clinton and her fake charity. He put his money where is mouth is when the Haitian earthquake occurred. He got rich by women voluntarily deciding to join his gym. He didn’t coerce anyone to join his gym, they wanted to join. I don’t see anything wrong with what he did.

    Am I saying that these rich people are perfect? No, that’s not what I’m saying. Nassim can be sometimes rude to people on Twitter, he comes off as conceited (even though he’s normally correct and well thought out). Gary Heavin required franchisees to purchase his book (although it’s not like he got rich off his book). I’m not saying these people are the equivelant of the modern day jesus, but they’re clearly not “evil” or “bad” like Henry Kissinger.

    I don’t look at these people as the NWO, of anything they are the people challenging them (via investing in alt positions or calling them out publically).

    Moreover from personal experience, I’ve met a lot of generous and good-hearted “rich people.” I have extended family (via marriage) who happen to very wealthy (net worth estimate $35,000,000 – $70,000,000) who seem to be generous and kind. I don’t follow them everyday and track all their decisions, but I highly doubt they’re doing anything other than regular (non-evil) people do. They are just regular people who happen to have a high net worth.

    Finally, I grew up in a semi-rich family. The best way to describe my parents would be “Middle Class millionaires.” Being in the 1% of the US puts our family in the top 0.1% of the world. Though I am certainly not some NWO-supporting parasite, neither is my family. My family owns a small business.

    I will admit that if you look at the top 100 richest people in the world, you will certainly find some people who are bad people (Larry Silverstein, George Soros, Erik Prince), but not all.

    I’d like to hear what you guys think about this regarding the three people I mentioned above. All super rich, and yet all seem anti-NWO on some level. Maybe they aren’t perfect, but none of us are.

  13. bas says:

    Meanwhile, Bill Gates continues to sprout his GMO propaganda (https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2018-04-10/gene-editing-good?cid=nlc-emc-paywall-free-reading-bill-gates-b-20180411). CFR-owned Foreign Affairs was so kind to put up his piece paywall-free to “educate” the policy makers on the benefits of genetic engineering. You know, because it fosters higher yields and reduce pesticide use. Oh wait, it doesn’t, and, in fact, does the exact opposite (https://scrutinisedminds.com/2017/10/24/gmos-kill-not-save-the-hungry-of-the-world/).

  14. amies says:

    Hi James! Largely for the benefit of newcomers, could you please explain on the next edition of QFC who JimBob is and the context in which this personality should be referenced in comments?

    • Mark K. P. says:

      JimBob is a redneck who shot Santa for visiting his delightful state of Fluorida. That much is obvious.
      He also seems not to believe everything he reads and probably has genealogic links to winged hussar families from old Poland.
      But now we’re speculating

  15. joseph says:


    I left a question in the last QFC I think still bears answering:

    QFC038 ? + comment

    What keeps Saudi Aramco’s IPO from happening on China’s new ‘paper castle/oil futures exchange’? Saudi/US ‘petro-dollar’ will have to get shorted eventually. A financial ‘Thucydides trap’ if you will. Apparently Qatar was already doing Yuan denominated contracts for their carbon chains according to AT and Pepe Escobar http://www.atimes.com/article/house-saud-bows-house-putin/.

    Thank you James and keep up the excellent work!

    I’m sure you are tired of the “Oh but James your well being…black bags…torture…)”?. As appreciated as they are, I know it has to be exhausting to hear such cowardice all the time. Live in the sunlight and do not separate words and actions is what I say. I’m reminded of an excerpt from Meditations you can read your audience:

    “Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one.”

    Marcus Aurelius

  16. dehardt says:

    I was surprised that Fletcher Prouty’s book on JFK was not mentioned as a very good source of info & analysis of the JFK assassination. I suppose there are too many books to mention all of the credible ones, but I found this one most compelling.

  17. lorenzo.c says:

    Hi everyone, my name is Lorenzo and it’s a real pleasure to introduce myself both to you and to the corbettreport community! First off, I wanna express both my sincere gratitude for all the incredible work James has done, and my deep shame for having just started to contribute financially to the website, given that it’s now more than five years that I regularly listen or read practically everything you’ve shared since.

    Here are my questions for James: do you aim at expanding the website further? If yes, how do you envision both the website and the community to be five years from now?

  18. lorenzo.c says:

    I encourage all members (including James, of course) to share their thoughts on the few following posts!

    So, during the last months, almost every time I consumed one of James’ new pieces, I found myself thinking about how great it would be to one day be able to work for the Corbett report community. This is also because he frequently reminds us of how he just doesn’t have the time to do all the stuff that needs to be done. So, after a few beers, one day in early September I started writing down some ideas on what my humble self could possibly do towards this expansion. One aspect which he often cites is the crowd-sourced nature of the information gathering process. It seems to me that on that front he havs exhausted almost all of the ways to foster that capability. The only other sug­gestion that I can make regards the introduction of a new section of the website; one that would be exclusively dedicated to the articles, videos and books produced and submitted by Corbett report members. In contrast to the comment section, in this new part of the website members would have the ability to briefly present and upload (or link to) their own “finished” works, both of research and of art. Of course, I make this suggestion having an example of such “fi­nished” contributions ready to be submitted: my masters thesis, which presents in English the available sources on the establishment and development of US-led stay behind networks in Austria (https://wp.me/P9DBWA-c).

    Anyway, such a separate section would obviously need to carry a big-ass disclaimer, unequivocally stating that James is not personally liable for any of the (possibly) preposterous/illegal content posted therein. In fact, in exchange for the possibility of being “published” on the website, I myself would be willing to sign a piece of paper saying that I am solely respon­sible for all the contents of my own book, no matter where its posted. In short, such a section would give members of the community both the adequate space to share something more than a comment or a bunch of links, AND the access to (potentially) tons of other interesting information researched and/or produced by largely like-minded individuals.

  19. lorenzo.c says:

    Of course, one other aspect is the funny-money. Given all the things James is already doing on this front, it seems to me that the only real way to increase the revenue is to increase both the quality (if and when possible), and particularly the quantity of media produced, thereby potentially reaching more people. But how the heck can we expect him to do more than what he already is doing? My thought-process eventually led me to the distin­ction between replaceable tasks, and those tasks where James can and should not be replaced. I believe that the sheer amount of time that he already invested in these activities, make him the absolute best choice to cover what I feel to be his two core duties to the community: researching and articulating. James’ English, both written and spoken, his proven sense of moral independence, as well as his obsession for both checking and publishing the actual sources, have all inspired me to try to do the same. Taken together, they constitute the key ingredients that have practically kept me glued to the website for all this time. After having lined-up all the things that he must be doing behind the scenes just to keep the website running, I soon came to the realization that I have absolutely no clue how he does it. The list includes, but is not limited to:
    Keeping at least an overview of the incoming emails, questions, and comments;
    Devoting enough time to assess the contents of all book, video, and article suggestions;
    Covering as much of the global 24/7 English-language news cycle as possible;
    Keeping at least an overview of the solutions-oriented sources and keeping track of new developments;
    Following up on the information published on both people and events cited in older reports;
    Webmastering the website;
    Keeping track of the stuff you want/plan to address in the future;
    Coordinating the appointments with your various interview partners and/or colleagues;
    Making sure that all DVDs (and eventually books, hopefully) are produced/shipped/delivered as expected.

    I believe that to expand the reach of the website, without moving an inch from the scholarly principles James has painstakingly established, he should gather a small group of assistants. So, if I understand the sheer volume of work involved correctly, the first six of the aforementioned tasks would by themselves require at least one assis­tant: EACH. Of course, these people would not work for the website full-time, first because they probably don’t live anywhere close to James, and secondly because the budget simply isn’t enough: YET. But the advantages of having such people help him by doing at least some of this stuff is clearly demonstrated by the case of Broc West. Ever since he started editing the videos, he has single-handedly helped James have more time for both his family and the website, thereby significantly improving the content released, both in terms of visual quality, and in terms of quantity.

    • mkey says:

      While this comment may not cover all that you wrote, James stated on a number of occasions that he could never give access to his website to people he doesn’t know physically (and I’d wager very, very well and in depth) which makes sense.

      Another issue is that I don’t think this site would technically be able to manage several different people with varying degrees of access rights.

      On a more personal note, I don’t think this community is going to expand to something gigantic any time soon. James has stated several times he has “several thousands subscriber” but we have barely a few dozen regular posters in the comments section. This is not to say I wouldn’t welcome a technically better implemented comments section, where things could be better organized and people could submit their own content. This would be something akin to standard forum software, which is freely available and fairly easy to setup and implement.

      • lorenzo.c says:

        Hi mkey, thanks for the input!
        I know, James stated that on several occasions that I remember. Besides, how to blame him!?? In his position, I’d do the same. Anyway, I’m prepared to prove my committment, having already come up with a 4-step plan. I’m just waiting for James to signal that he is at least open to the possibility of someone trying to prove him/herself.

        On the issue of the varying degrees of access rights, I know far to little about IT to be able to contribute on this issue. Still, I do think that there are ways for James to outsource specific tasks, without having to change the website’s fundametal architecture.

        On the issue of the silent subscribers, you are most certainly correct. Furthermore, I sure do hope that the website does not expand to something “gigantic”. The team I’m talking about already started in 2014, at least according to the website’s “about” section, where Broc is mentioned as video editor since that time. What I mean is, it is not (and should not be) a rapid process. Also, the “few dozen regular contributors” like yourself are already more than enough to start with. Even if the website grows to, say, tens-of thousands of subscribers, 99% of them would continue to be “silent”, and only 0.01% would be “regular contributors”. And that is exactly how it should be, meaning: if you want high level content (which is the case of this website, including the comment section) how many do you expect can regularly contribute? Time-wise, English-wise, research-wise, topic-wise, etc…
        I do believe that in this case quality and quantity do not correlate.

        On the issue of a better implementation of the comment section, while I do agree wholeheartedly, I’m not able to help out on the technical side.

  20. lorenzo.c says:

    On that note, a sincere thank you and hats off to good-old Broc in southern Vietnam!
    Anyway, my thoughts than skipped forward a couple of years and imagined a bright, almost radiant future, where between five to ten people have followed Broc’s example and, despite being scattered across the planet, they all found a meaningful way to achieve the same result he did. And here comes the kicker: despite being usually in contact only over the internet, a yearly physical meeting could be organized, each year either near or at the place of residence of another member of the group, in order to see new places, generate new ideas and new plans for the future, as well as to foster honest reciprocal friendships. This could be eventually expanded to willing members, gradually transforming it into an offline session of an otherwise online community. In conclusion, James, should you actually be interested in any of the suggestions I just made, please do let me know, because I have more to say, particularly on how I could actually follow Broc’s footsteps.

    • I Shot Santa says:

      Broc in South Vietnam? I thought he was in Australia. Just goes to show how things/people just won’t stay where I think they are. By the way, great idea there. I’m not really sure how James keeps up with the work he does now. I get the notion he is living the grad school life of never-ending questions. JimBob who never questions the official line as he don’t even know what it is.

      • lorenzo.c says:

        Hi I Shot Santa, that would be awesome, right? I mean, there are times when just thinking about it gives me goosebumbs. Thanks for your input!

    • Fawlty Towers says:

      I don’t mean to discourage you with this idea lorenzo but…
      Before you invest too much time thinking this through and
      coming up with a proposal for James on a new/improved bigger and better website…
      I don’t think it is likely at all that he will be interested.

      First of all what you are describing sounds an awful lot
      like a Newsbud clone (are you sure you aren’t a Newsbud spy 🙂 ? ).

      Second of all James absolutely relishes his independence. He thrives on it.

      Working as part of a team just isn’t his bag, whether he is leader
      or not.

      I will never forget that BFP video broadcast where Sibel was floating the idea of starting Newsbud (the name still hadn’t even been born).
      During the discussion someone asked James if he would be interested in working on such a team as a regular team member.

      His response? He “bristled” (the word he used) just from thinking about the idea! That was his polite way of declining any such offer.

      BTW, this was years before they had their falling out. They were still on excellent terms back then.

      Having said all that, this is not to say I don’t think improvements can be made to this site; for example the comments section (as has been mentioned) etc.

      • lorenzo.c says:

        Hi Fawlty Towers, thanks for the input!

        I know, James always was and still is (particularly after the senseless beef with Sibel and Spiro) rightfully skeptical of any outside “influence”. Furthermore, let me state this very clearly: at this point this is all just talk, and should James come to the conclusion that this is about it for now, I’ll stop right away. I do also realize that, not only would the burden of proof fall on me, but it would also be pretty damn high…still, I’m prepared to give it a try!

        This website gave so much, that I think its high time I find a meaningful way to give some back.

        As I alluded to mkey, if anyone of you guys and girls has a better suggestion, I’m all ears. It’s not about about expanding the website per se, but rather: how can James have more time for both his family AND for the stuff he actually likes doing (researching and producing media), without neglecting all the otherwise important stuff?

        • mkey says:

          I don’t think you can relegate commitments without losing independence.

          Collecting information – this is something anyone can contribute to (and many do) but this actually adds to the work load

          Digesting information – I don’t think anyone can do this reliably and objectively, therefore it can not be relegated with keeping independence in mind

          Keep up with correspondence – has to do with what I mentioned above and also maintaining privacy. Besides, James isn’t Obama to have a dozen people acting as him on social media, on his behalf

          Maintaining the website – again, a privacy issue

          Maintaining the community – susceptible to bias, moderation could be relegated to a certain extent, but you’d need to have hundreds of daily posts for it to be required

          Research, writing – essential to independence

          Things that could be outsorced: media production, proofreading and maybe some more mundane tasks, like booking a flight or a hotel or organizing some event or doing groceries and stuff like that, but I very much doubt he’d like to have a personal assistant.

        • Fawlty Towers says:

          lorenzo I don’t think it registered/you understand, however good your intentions might be.
          This is not about “burden of proof/trust”
          (although after his latest war with Sibel, James’ ‘saboteur radar’ must be at their highest alert levels ever.)

          This is about independence. James’ DNA thrives on it.

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      lorenzo.c says:
      Broc in southern Vietnam!

      • I Shot Santa says:

        When did that happen? Or am I just completely out of the loop on things and he’s always been based there? Either one is possible as some days the world is just one confusing blend of facts/truths/lies/mis-interpretations that never really settle into place before someone hits the puree button again. JimBob who knows that being a pothead could never cause one to get a little hazy on the details.

  21. BeaverBill says:

    Anyone notice that the YouBoob link “Corbett on Pike WWIII letter” is dead?

  22. sentient33 says:

    When did James have a falling out with Sibel, et al? I thought I kept up with things…

  23. aaronk says:

    Question for Corbett.

    Hi James, what’s the story with the pizzagate open-source investigation. Was this debunked? The alt-media community appears to be split on this, as with so many things lately.

  24. scpat says:


    In your view, since 9/11, has U.S. government foreign policy really intended to achieve what the top brass publicly state are their objectives, but unintentionally just happen to be clumsy, have nearly all their strategies backfire on their stated purposes (e.g. empowering Iran and other Shi’a forces, Assad winning the Syrian war, emboldening terrorist groups, creating new ones and causing previous ones to grow stronger, etc) and generally appear to be bumbling around the Middle East and elsewhere?

    Or, do you think the planners in the U.S government knew that the situation in the M.E. was likely to unravel the way it has, but intentended it to, and hoped it would, as to justify endless war in the M.E. and whatever else their motives might be?

    • I Shot Santa says:

      I’ve been wondering something similar. Except that I just took out “publicly stated” on the goals. However, it isn’t the incompetence which gets me; that is real. What gets me are all the news which just backfire time after time. I’m talking news announcements. You know, the ones in which the “truth bombs” go off on MSM. Is it possible that they are smart enough to just make themselves look stupid? I don’t think so. JimBob whose government experience has taught him that only the dumbest people ever stick with government jobs.

  25. I Shot Santa says:

    At last!I have a relevant posting! James, I just got through watching this incredibly stupid video; not the video itself, but the content. The UK thought crimes. Where hate speech has just run amok apparently. People are getting their wallets raped by this now. Personally, I find it evidence that Ayn Rand was a prophet, but I would like to know your take on this madness. Basically, it’s a WTF question. Just what is the UK trying to do? Do they WANT their government to collapse? I don’t even have the ability to grasp how anyone could be this idiotic. Of course, I AM looking at stupid from a logical perspective; so their’s that. JimBob who figures it might be best to paraphrase anything that comes out of his mouth.

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