WWI Q&A – Questions For Corbett #042

01/18/201930 Comments

What did the Rhodes/Milner secret society actually gain from the First World War? What do we really know about American funding of the Russian revolution? What books shine light on what World War One was really about? Don’t miss this edition of Questions For Corbett as James dips into the mailbag (and the comments) for questions regarding The WWI Conspiracy.

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SHOW NOTES

The WWI Conspiracy

Freedom Fries and Liberty Cabbage – #PropagandaWatch

Richard Grove on the Rothschilds and WWI

Gerry Docherty on the Hidden History of WWI

Gerry Docherty on Herbert Hoover and World War One

The Spider’s Web: Britain’s Second Empire (Documentary)

Episode 343 – Debunking A Century of War Lies

How to create an .srt file

Hidden History: The Secret Origins of the First World War

Prolonging the Agony: How the Anglo-American Establishment Deliberately Extended WWI

Lord Milner’s Second War: The Rhodes-Milner secret society; the origin of World War I; and the start of the New World Order

The Anglo-American Establishment

Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution

The Creature From Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve

All the Presidents’ Bankers: The Hidden Alliances that Drive American Power

The Two Edwards: How King Edward VII and Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey Fomented the First World War

The Innocence of Kaiser Wilhelm II

The Pity of War

The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914

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  1. artemis says:

    American comedian, George Carlin said “You do not need a conspiracy, when interests converge.”

  2. Duck says:

    The WW1 series is the most important work you have done because its far enough in the past that normal people are able to accept the unpleasant truth without too much cognitive dissonance meltdown.
    Talking about 9/11 or even JFK is temporally close enough that having an opinion is a POLITICAL/group think issue where as thanks to WW2 the funny moving pictures of dead tommies and krauts in pickle helms dont matter and people can use their actual reasoning on the story….its just dead history to them. However, IF THEY ACCEPT IT then their world view will have subtlety shifted enough that they may one day see the world more like it really is.
    Trying to get people to REALLY internalize the fact that the world doesnt work the way they want to think it works is too hard if you tackle things that actually ‘matter’ to them right away.

  3. cdco says:

    Dear All

    Another very good source of information (mainstream-ish) with regards to WWI is Dan Carlin’s “Hardcore History” Podcast “Blueprint for Armageddon” Part I-VI. This particular podcast is in total over 20 hours. If one ever needs a reminder why we don’t want war should listen!

    https://podtail.com/en/podcast/dan-carlin-s-hardcore-history/show-50-blueprint-for-armageddon-i/

  4. dubrey says:

    A great conversation.
    It will be interesting to continue on to FDR and WWII. With today’s mention of the Kaiser and the propaganda as to his motives and what “history” says about that. I quickly thought of Hitler and his continual and unabated demonization in the American, and world media, for that matter. One has to ask why? What is the real story? Ask the average person what the definition of evil is. Would it be safe to say that many would thoughtlessly skip over many truly evil things like child abuse, serial murderers etc, and just say, Hitler?

  5. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Actually, I meant to post the following comment on this episode, instead of the article.
    Inventions, Products, and Cultural Insights during the early 1900’s
    “The Dixie Cup” and hygiene of the era are discussed.
    https://www.corbettreport.com/know-your-enemy-the-royal-institute-of-international-affairs/comment-page-1/#comment-58581

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      In the above comment, I had mentioned the history of Diamond Matches is interesting.
      During WW1, Diamond did seek out some different methods/sources of potash. (potassium chlorate, or muriate of potash for making matches)

      In 1910, the Diamond Match Company patented the first nonpoisonous match in the U.S.

      One aspect that struck me wide eyed, almost puzzling, was that at one point in time, Diamond Match Co. freely “gave away” its patent rights (circa 1911 supposedly at President Taft’s request). Typically, companies rarely publicly release their patent rights. Perhaps the supposed altruistic motivation was masked by another incentive, such as free PR marketing. Or, it could have been that Congress imposed a tax (1911) on the poisonous phosphorous matches.
      I guess, I have become too skeptical to believe that “a company would do the right thing, altruistically, for humanity” on its own volition.

      BACKSTORY
      (graphic of phossy jaw) http://museumofeverydaylife.org/exhibitions-collections/current-exhibitions/history-of-the-match
      EXCERPTS
      …phosphorous-based matches that began to be manufactured in large quantities. Match factories (often utilizing child labor) and home match factories (populated largely by women) began turning out matches at an unprecedented rate. Phosphorous, however, is highly poisonous. Scores of factory workers became ill with a scourge that became known as “phossy jaw,” a deforming necrosis in the bones of the face, particularly the lower jaw.

      The phosphorous scraped from a single pack of matches contained enough poison to commit suicide or murder, both of which were reported occurrences of the era…
      . . .
      …The Diamond Match Company produced the first non-poisonous match in the U.S., and as a humanitarian gesture, forfeited patent rights, allowing rival companies to cheaply switch to non-poisonous match production. The Company was recognized by President Taft and won a prestigious award for the elimination of a serious occupational disease….

  6. HomeRemedySupply says:

    In the very, very early morning hours today, I happened across a local Ph.D. college instructor who teaches about Herbs, and then listened to a YouTube interview with her. I liked her demeanor.

    I emailed her and told her about The Corbett Report documentary “How Big Oil Conquered the World”, explaining “I wanted to pass along to you a very interesting aspect to history on why herbal medicine was taken over by conventional medicine.”

    Well, she responded today. She thanked me and said: “So, the crazy thing about this video is I teach about the Flexner report…but I wasn’t aware how they were all tied together.”

    I had to review Flexner.
    The Flexner Report is a book-length study of medical education in the United States and Canada, written by Abraham Flexner and published in 1910.

    EXCERPT from Corbett’s documentary.
    …In 1901, John D. established the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research. The Institute recruited Simon Flexner, a pathology professor at the University of Pennsylvania, to serve as its director. His brother, Abraham, was an educator who was contracted by the Carnegie Foundation to write a report on the state of the American medical education system. His study, The Flexner Report, along with the hundreds of millions of dollars that the Rockefeller and Carnegie Foundations were to shower on medical research in the coming years, resulted in a sweeping overhaul of the American medical system. Naturopathic and homeopathic medicine, medical care focused on un-patentable, uncontrollable natural remedies and cures was now dismissed as quackery; only drug-based allopathic medicine requiring expensive medical procedures and lengthy hospital stays was to be taken seriously….
    https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil/

    Again, this underscores the fact that during the run-up and involvement of World War 1, many events were taking place which still, directly or indirectly, affect us today.

    • generalbottlewasher says:

      Homey : you said it ” Big Oil”.

      “Prolonging The Agony ” is a page turner and carefully reflects the themes presented here on TCR. It alludes to the boogie man above and behind the historical facts we are allowed to know. Any one with any since at all must be aware and cautious of their existence. We all know what happens when you “Kick the Hornets Nest”. Macgregor and Docherty do this beautifully in a delightful esoteric way.
      Chapter 21: Oil-The Uneven Playing Field.
      Without reprinting the entire chapter, here are a few excerpts that name the creator of the secret elite. Note the Dates.
      Pig.291 ‘1892- Baron Alphonce De Rothschild accepted Rockefeller’s
      Invitation to go to New York for secrete talks’
      ‘ Alphonce…thought it desirable to keep the Nobel brothers out…and in the pre-war years,much of the great rivalry between Rothschild and Rockefeller was a convenient facade…’
      Pig.292 ‘The Rothschild who where among the first to invest in European Oil…had their own agenda and no intention of sharing control with the Germans or any other government.’
      DeuchschBank, 1851 Disconto Gesellschaft bank, BleichroderBank,1901 Disconto acquires Rothschild Bank in Frankfort and Rothschild name withdrawn. Disconto was nothing more than a front. See a pattern here?.
      Pig 294 They had a first rate intelligence gathering service stretching across the business and political world.’
      ‘ …unrivaled power over nations’.

      Not to mention the secrete elite who they created for a much bigger game .

      • generalbottlewasher says:

        From the last sentence above , which is my conclusion , not Docherty or Macgregor’s, you can trace it from its origins to today.
        134 military bases are not for America but for Rothschild Inc. You can say America Inc. is a Rothschild Incorporation if that is easier to digest. The illusion is complete and controlled so now, that the truth of it has no meaning.
        Business shall go on. Or, shall business go on? In that case be cautious, they can be vindictive.

        • generalbottlewasher says:

          Vindictive as in a long line of events where the Rothchilds muscled their way or created a way to reap unimaginative wealth and power. Start with the Nepolianic war, US Civil War,Sino-Russian War, Spanish American War, WW1, WW2, China Civil War,Israeli-Palestine Levant War,Korean War, Indo- China French War,Vietnam War, 6day War, Syrian War, right into 7 countries in 5 years war.
          Who financed and who benefited? You know who, but as Docherty and Macgregor stated clearly, who has the power to airbrush them selves completely out of history? Also mentioned as an aside, that Rothchilds don’t take orders from anyone, they give them. So you can talk all you want about the elves, the raindeer, the work shops, the good little boys and girls but never are you dirrectly talk about the man in the ” RED” Suite.
          I just figured it out about what ” goes without saying ” really means.

          • generalbottlewasher says:

            A good analogy of the “one ” theory is the microscope. Looking through one end, the eye piece, you can see the whole or the minutest detail. Looking from the opposite end, slide end, you see nothing recognizable.
            When you add substainance to the slide you view that things naturally begin to happen. The slide where things are cooking sees nothing of the giver of substainance but sees the reactions going on and reacts naturally. The substainance in not natural , the reaction is natural. Which one is predictable? The men in the red suites have understood this natural behavior thoroughly. That is what was meant by the saying ” I care not for who makes the laws if I control the central bank.”
            The Red suits clan don’t need to micro manage affects. They bet on the natural human behavior outcomes by adding substainance or rigging the bet by denying it.
            They are a ” One” that runs as a vertical layer running through all the layers built up over history.
            Those that have shown a spotlight on the ” One” have fared as well as Hatfield did in shinning a light on G. W Bushes cocaine use and his national guard days.

            • generalbottlewasher says:

              J.H. Hatfield. Author of Fortunate Son. Hatfield was found a victim of suicide June 18, 2001. Another possible journalist suicided. Karl Rove did not deny the allegations claimed in the book but did out the author as a convicted felon to the publisher. 70 ,000 copies where removed from shelves and destroyed. G.W.Bush denied the allegations cause the author wasn’t credible, he was a convicted felon.
              This is a natural fermentation of events and the men in the red suits do involve themselves in these low things. Another politician was in the wings ready to go. That’s the secret elites job. Not the selects.in the red suite

              • generalbottlewasher says:

                ManBearPig its beginning to sound like an echo chamber in here! her! he! h! !

                No more 1664s for me -zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

              • HomeRemedySupply says:

                I forgot about that Hatfield book.

                (I heard some of your echo…been busy lately.)

              • generalbottlewasher says:

                Editorial correction- the men in the red suites don’t , do not, get involved in the lower things. They rely on human nature to take its course and they will be there to meet whomever comes out on the other side. As Docherty and Macgregor stated, anyone contemplating peace instead of victory was dumped, fired or killed. Peace can be interpreted as the unnatural human course, and contrary to the red suites and the many middle managers concept of natural human behavior. Fight or flight. No peace allowed. That’s why I believe there is a one-ness in control. However removed from the playing field of human behavior and a constant in resent history.

  7. rueckl1b says:

    Thanks James,
    just watched the WWI series with my kids.
    In Germany this side of history is completely unknown and untold.
    Good that you shed a light on it.
    In Germany it is dangerous to talk along those lines, even if you bring the literature. You will be called a Nazi.
    My Grandpa told me in the 1970’s that the story that Germany caused the war is not really true. But history is written by the victors and told in school. I did not even want to discuss that topic back than.
    Now it seems I am old enough and truth is truth.

    What your report shows that the history follows certain patterns.
    Your report reveals the patterns.

    What was Rhodes back than is now “The Grand Chessboard” which is still in full swing being executed.

    Let’s hope it does not lead us the same way.

    //BR

  8. manbearpig says:

    Thought these quotes made by Gandhi about Milner, Stead and supporting the British in South Africa offered an interesting perspective:

    Oct. 6, 1905
    “In all this computation, Lord Milner has overlooked one fact, viz., that, while the Kaffir hardly works for six months, the Chinese have to do so continuously for three years. Moreover, the Chinese being more active than the Kaffirs, much more work can be taken from them than from the latter. This is a very important point, but His Lordship utters not a word about it. Unless this is taken into account, Lord Milner’s figures are of no use whatever.” ~ Vol. IV, p. 312

    Oct. 21, 1905
    “We humbly submit that the decision to open the school for all Coloured children is unjust to the Indian community, and is a departure from the assurance given by the then Minister of Education, as also Sir Albert Hime and Mr. Robert Russell, that the school will be reserved for Indian children only.” ~ Vol. IV, p. 402

    June 1, 1906
    “The Boer Government insulted the Indians by classing them with the Kaffirs.” ~ Vol. V, p. 59

    Mar. 17, 1906
    “The ousting of the Kaffirs from the Bazaar at Pretoria is wrong; for, whatever the law, Indians have for many years now earned rentals from Kaffir tenants. It behoves the Government to ensured that Indians do not suffer any loss on this account.” ~ Vol. V, p. 129

    May 22, 1906
    “It was a gross injustice to seek to place Indians in the same class as the Kaffirs.” ~ Vol. V, p. 226

    Nov. 6, 1906
    “Mr. Stead has boldly come out to give us all the help he can. He was therefore requested to write to the Boer leaders that they should not consider Indians as being on the same level as Kaffirs.” ~ Vol. VI, p. 112

    http://originalpeople.org/mahatma-gandhi-racist-quotes/

    Any site you go to proclaims triumphantly that Gandhi “fought racism in South Africa” which implies the blacks of South Africa. But it seems pretty clear from the above comments that he fought, while supporting the colonialist British against the Boers, that he was appalled by racism against Indians (except the Dalits apparently) and not against racism against “kaffirs”. Which doesn’t imply that I negate all of Gandhi’s “achievements”. He may’ve been “martyred” (standing alongside his young grandniece and his grandnephew’s wife with whom he carried out sexual abstinence “experiments”) but given the status quo in India, and the creation of Anglo-strategically friendly Pakistan, I nevertheless wonder about certain things…

    • manbearpig says:

      Erratum:

      “…which implies the blacks of South Africa…”

      should be:

      “which implies he fought racism against South African blacks…”

    • manbearpig says:

      So I’m not denying the probable benefits of non-violent resistance but:

      once again I was kicking in open doors: it’s common knowledge that Gandhi was racist against blacks, had bizarre sexual practices involving children in his ashrams and enjoyed giving teen-age girls enemas after sleeping naked with them and receiving their attentive massages on his naked body (and then was mystified and annoyed by uncontrolled nocturnal semen emissions. There even seems to be evidence that he hit his wife and was an abject father.

      But what’s infinitely more provocative than all that is his relationship with the daughter of British Admiral Edmund Slade Director of Naval Intelligence, Madeline Slade who became a devotee and political advisor, confidante, companion to London for sensitive negotiations…

      also possible connections with Lord Roberts of Kandahar described thusly by a certain 1st Viscount Alfred Milner:

      “As a leader of men in the field he is, I believe, without equal.” — Sir Alfred Milner on Lord Roberts

      Titillating!

      • manbearpig says:

        I’m sure it’s all quite commendable and all that but there’s something about this high level naval Intelligence agent’s daughter that intrigues me…

        “…Mirabehn often accompanied Gandhi on his tours and looked after his personal needs. She became one of Gandhi’s confidants and an ardent champion internationally for India’s freedom from British rule

        and was with Gandhi at the London Round Table Conference in 1931.

        In 1934 she made a brief visit to the United States for lectures and radio talks and met first lady Eleanor Roosevelt for an interview at the White House. Before returning to India, she conducted interviews with a number of British politicians in the United Kingdom—Sir Samuel Hoare, Lord Halifax, Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, and Clement Attlee—as well as the South African leader Jan Smuts…”

        https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mirabehn

        …she was detained on the charge of supplying information to Europe and America regarding conditions prevailing in India; and in 1942, when she was imprisoned in the Aga Khan Palace in Pune along with Gandhi and his wife, Kasturba (the latter died there in 1944).

        …In 1946 Mirabehn was appointed as honorary special adviser to the Uttar Pradesh government to assist in a campaign to expand agricultural production. In 1947 she set up an ashram near Rishikesh. Following Gandhi’s assassination in 1948, Mirabehn decided to stay in India. For the next 11 years, she traveled to various Indian states, took on community projects including one that came to be known as the Gopal Ashram in the Bhilangana valley (now in the state of Uttarakhand), and worked on environmental issues such as those preventing deforestation and implementing flood-control measures…”

        • manbearpig says:

          so here’s a little “tree fragment” that seems somehow both appropriate and inappropriate here:

          “Slade/Beale Family Tree Fragments

          …Admiral Sir Edmond John Warre Slade (20 Mar 1859-20 Jan 1928) who was successively commander of the Royal Naval War College (May 04-Nov 07), Director of Naval Intelligence (-Mar 09) CIC East Indes (-12)

          and then sent by Churchill to investigate purchasing a 51% stake in the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (now BP). He became a Government-appointed director of BP. He retired in Aug 1917 but remained a director of Anglo-Persian until his death.

          In 1887 he married Florence Madeleine, eldest daughter of Mr James Carr Saunders of Milton Heath, Dorking (but born in Reigate, Surrey in 1870), and had two daughters:
          Madeline Slade who became Meera Behn (1892-1982)

          a consort of Ghandi’s

          and another daughter – I don’t know…”

          http://www.starcourse.org/emd/sladebeale.htm

          • manbearpig says:

            From “Inside the Citadel: Men and the Emancipation of Women 1850-1920”
            De R. Symonds

            « …Very different was Gandhi’s relationship with the British Admiral’s daughter, Madeline Slade who became Mira Behn when at the age of 32 she joined his ashram. She immediately insisted, almost against Gandhi’s advice, in cutting off her hair and adopting Indian dress. From early morning to the last thing at night she lived for the moments when she could set eyes on him. As she sought to crush her natural independance of nature and put herself under his will, he protested « you must not cling to me. You must retain your individuality. » He became fidgety and it seemed best for her to work away from him. « You have left your home, your people, and all that you prize most », he wrote « not to serve me personally but the cause I stand for . All the time you were squandering your love on me personally I felt guilty of misappropriation and I exploded on the slightest pretext. »

            There were times when she was able to be close to him. It was useful for him to have her at his side when he was in London for the Round Table talks. But latterly she ran her own village uplift schemes. After his death she returned to live in Vienna where she devoted herself to the study of Beethoven and disliked any discussion of that half of her life spent as his disciple… »

            books.google.fr/books?id=nyR9DAAAQBAJ&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=british+petroleum+madeline+slade&source=bl&ots=UUVCgWqbuj&sig=ACfU3U2nT63elxsqpXsr3i_pgXx8XBGNYA&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwji-YHOu6XgAhWoDWMBHWoGBmkQ6AEwB3oECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=british%20petroleum%20madeline%20slade&f=false

            Was Gandhi somewhat of an exalted megalomaniac with his heart if not his genitalia more or less in the right place, who suffered from a colonial inferiority complex and vaguely and petulantly suspected he was being “handled” or infiltrated by British secret intelligence yet, uncertain, preferred to remain…diplomatic…?

            And the suddenly infatuated aristocrat Madeline, daughter of British intelligence negotiator and government-appointed director of BP, she, a devoted if not overzealous servant to British interests who’d accomplished her secret mission in defusing any meaningful Indian resistance, retired to Vienna…mysteriously refusing to speak about him forever after…?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33VkTWzzw5M

            I must check what Romain Rolland would have to say about this…

            • manbearpig says:

              Among the more irreverant articles by a non-native English speaker;

              “…Kathryn Tidrick notes in her book Gandhi: A political and Spiritual Life, that during his stay in South Africa “[Gandhi’s] aspiration to Christhood had already formed itself.”

              …Gandhi said: “When I am a perfect being, I have simply to say the word, and the nation will listen.”

              “There is no point in trying to know the difference between a perfect man and God.”…

              …If not the entire world, than, at least, millions of those Indians who were blinded by Gandhi’s sham would have loved to be at Gandhi’s feet….”

              B.R. Gowani (an author/journalist I’m unfamiliar with)

              https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/02/was-gandhi-averse-to-climax-a-psycho-sexual-assessment-of-the-mahatma/

              Still curious about Madeline Slade though…

              • manbearpig says:

                So Madeline spent three years in India, aged 17 to 19, when her father was stationed there from 1909 to 1912 as “Director of Naval intelligence” and “Commander and chief of the East Indies” to fight “contraband traffic in arms and ammunition” which may have “possibly sown the seeds for her later deep involvement with India and Ghandi.”

                starcourse.org/emd/edmondslade.htm

                About that period she insists that

                “it meant nothing to me but a life of social functions and formalities in a very restricted society which did not appeal to me”…

                then, some 13 years later, she would very suddenly decide to drop everything, move to India and devote her life to Gandhi…

                ?

                As for the meeting between Romain Rolland and Gandhi, it was not a resounding success apparently.

                “…In Gandhi’s daily contact, Rolland understands that aspects of his project offend his most cherished values. Gandhi’s asceticism, which he imposes sovereignly around him to his entourage, strikes him. Worse, by exalting sacrifice in the face of the enemy against whom one presents oneself unarmed, Gandhi exposes the masses to suffering and death without their consent. For Rolland, this conception is morally unacceptable. “To sacrifice others? Is it not through violence that they are sacrificed? And doesn’t non-violence involve thousands of sacrifices in advance? Good for the “willing”, for the “informed”. But those who were not consulted, the unconscious, the “innocent”? »

                The final blow for Rolland, author of a Life of Beethoven and Christopher, is Gandhi’s insensitivity to art and Western music. The scene takes place on the last evening, in the company of Madeleine Slade, one of Gandhi’s closest disciples.

                Rolland tells how, on the evening of December 11, 1931, Gandhi, knowing “that Beethoven had been the intermediary between Mira and me, and consequently between Mira and him”, asked him to play it on the piano. Rolland interprets the andante of the 5th symphony. When he asked Gandhi what he thought of it, he replied, “with a little laugh that was both mischievous and candid”: “It must be beautiful, since you tell me it is! »

                Rolland persists. He wants to make Gandhi feel the strength and beauty of the music he loves. He plays the scene of Gluck’s Élysées d’Orphée fields, the first orchestral piece and the flute tune. It’s a waste of time. The Mahatma will not give his opinion. Someone comes to pick him up so he can give his last speech in Switzerland…”

                lhistoire.fr/vu-deurope-le-rendez-vous-manqu%C3%A9

                Must’ve been a grave disappointment for someone who’d described Gandhi as “another Christ” and “the greatest figure of the 20th century”…

              • manbearpig says:

                I guess Gandhi did not have much time or inclination to hone his appreciation for Beethoven or western music during the three years he spent at the prestigious Inner Temple in the ‘City of London’ studying law.

  9. UKJC says:

    MBP, GBW, HRS & rueckl1b thanks for all the input on the WWI QFC. Fascinating stuff. I have an off topic question for Corbett…

    Is there a connection between the dreadful _Intercept post here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ARSvfALdU&t=4s and the BBC Producer’s Tweets regarding Douma discussed here here here, oh virtually nowhere other than this channel https://youtu.be/DTV-kQwG6f0 , this site https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/02/13/bbc-producer-says-footage-of-alleged-gas-attack-victims-in-syrias-douma-staged/ and of course https://www.rt.com/news/451538-bbc-douma-chemical-staged/ .

    I guess the very simple questions are; was there a connection between the two (Intercept & BBC Producers tweets)
    And whatever the response to the later. Has anyone of us found a direct criticism of the former?

    Thanks James

  10. Drazen says:

    Question for Corbett
    Not related to WWI specifically.

    James,
    This is not a question so much, but an observation for your comment.
    I find it intriguing that various Mouths of Sauron in the establishment media preach democracy, democracy, all hail democracy. Yet when there is a popular issue that seemingly goes against establishment desires the same or other Mouths of Sauron proclaim, “we must find a way to counter populism”. Such as the Brexit situation and the rise of nationalist parties in Europe.

    Do these people not realize their hypocrisy here?
    Democracy = Populism
    Or am I missing something?

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