Interview 1822 - Preserving our History with Neil Oliver

07/31/2023114 Comments

If history is a story, who's writing it? And who's trying to erase it? Join James and archaeologist, author and TV presenter Neil Oliver as they sail the seas of history, discuss the value of memory and physical media, and attempt a dead reckoning of where we are and where we're going.

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  1. helanda says:

    I wanna write first, but ffs. This is my last first for fun.

    I’m aging
    Like everybody else, can’t wait too hear the episode while making lasagna, matty Matheson style :):)

  2. mkey says:

    Neil does indeed speak a lot of common sense, however his accent and pronunciation really make me drop off from the flow. But that’s fine, different speakers have different styles and I have realised that I won’t be able to get information from everyone.

    I think it’s good that James does some interviews with people whom faces may be seen on TeeVee screens. Though I doubt boobtube would suggest this type of videos to the regular watchers.

  3. yojimbo says:

    Totally groovy conversation with Neil Oliver… He hasn’t been red pilled as long as you James but is a quick learner . Bravo. Great to see you guys talking together…many blessings

  4. Rexleo says:

    First of all, have to say I enjoy Mr. Oliver’s accent, I believe it is Scottish, and to me, perhaps because of my love of Star Trek and “Scottie”, it brings a folksy and real association for me. It is welcomed, compared to the ubiqudous British accent or the guttural NY accent.

    But back to the point at hand, History. Covid and 9/11 are great examples of how history works, a highly suspect event occurs, an event with innumerable questionable aspects, which then has a narrative quickly established for it and codified into the realm of acceptable thinking, then pushed down the memory hole to insure we don’t discuss it. I mean before the smoke had settle at the Twin Trade towers we had moved onto the war on Iraq. With covid, we quickly pivoted to the war in Ukraine. It was striking how the media went from covid 24/7, to Ukraine 24/7. Then they use their full control over the media, education and entertainment to solidify the desired narrative into history.

    I always thought the Library of Alexandria’s destruction was the perfect analogy to what they do today with truth/fact/information. It is a perfect analogy because they are the same forces doing it then that are doing it now, all driving us to their goal, which is our end.

    • helanda says:

      Preach mf preach

    • Rexleo says:

      To be very sure, the pendulum is going extreme to one side, because it is being PURPOSELY pushed to one side, with the GOAL of it swinging too far in the other direction. This is being DONE on purpose. I am in America, and I see what they are doing clear as day.

      Using the Weimar Republic as a guide, I see the same entities pushing transgender, immigration, debt, porn, GMOs, political corruption (Jeffery Epstein), entertainment (Wokism)…and endless other aspects of society are purposely being HIGHLIGHTED to give the impression of everything is falling apart. Thus when they bring Trump (the “Messiah”) to bring back “law and order”. We all know they love to use the Hegelian Dialectic, and we are seeing it unfold right in front of our eyes.

      CCCP never “failed” it was purposely “ended” to allow the powerful to buy up Russia for a song. We see this time and time again, nations “falling” only to be purchased up by the opportunistic oligarchs, you just keep getting richer. Ukraine, America, ripe for their machinations.

      Oh, and don’t believe the hype, there will be NO “civil war in America”, maybe you will see it unfolding on Fox and CNN, but it will be, like Covid purely theatrical event, but rest assured, just like covid, the cure for it will be pure totalitarianism.

      These demons don’t take risks, they don’t need to, everything is carefully rolled out like a good Hollywood movie would be. They use what they control 100%, the media, corporations and politicians to play out the event, as if it were real, always with an eye on the goal of the manipulation, more control.

  5. Ectorshire Wolf says:

    Excellent conversation gentlemen, thanks!

    As a Christian I know God has told us He has a timetable, and I am fully aware as each day passes we are that much closer to “the end”, but since it’s an unpublished timetable I’m not packing my bags.

    Around the 40 minute mark Neil got me thinking about EMP’s, which he addressed a few minutes later. While agreeing with what he said, I am of the opinion an EMP could possibly be a benefit to mankind. It would be very costly in many ways but after the dust settled there would be only a few options available to those still standing. If such a calamity happens I wonder if the “Birkenhead Drill” will be in practice.

    I’m looking forward to future conversations between these two. Thanks again!

  6. Rexleo says:

    We also see the danger of letting “others” control our history, they can mold it as they will, especially when we don’t know it.

    Take slavery, I listened to a bit from Bill Mayer, who in a “comedy” bit posited that “everybody owned slaves”. Paraphrasing, he was saying that most white people owned slaves back in the day…and considering the ignorance or real history and the American education system/Critical Race Theory”, you can see the goal here.

    Comedy is often how they deliver their messages, always weaving lies with the truth, irony with propaganda. How many jokes have been made about the unsubstantiated claim that women make 80% of a male salary “for the same job”. And while that was the nonsense we “debated”, all our jobs were moved to China and Mexico.

    • Rexleo says:

      Can’t stress enough how great of a conversation this is, I am rarely driven to see an idea from a different perspective, but I have here.

      I would add to the discussion that there is nothing new under the sun, our ancestors have deal with this all before, it is because our ancestor’s did not deal with the problem, we are where we are today. Oh yes, this desire to “control” is nothing new, how I wish that was just their ultimate goal, but I think we know it is FAR worse, but where we are today is the culmination of centuries of manipulation and machinations of this cabal.

      It is not the enemy’s prowess that has driven my defeatism in our future, but seeing the willingness of the masses to cling to delusions and “security”, over freedom and liberty. As it has been said, those who value security over freedom, deserve neither and will lose both. It just sucks to be on board this Titanic with so many weak human beings. Covid illustrated how so many will gladly buy the bullets for their own firing squad, if only they can avoid dealing with the truth. Of course it is more complicated than that, ego is also used to manipulate…

    • Duck says:

      Relaxeo

      The funny thing about Slavery is that most people take their view of it from things like “Uncle Toms Cabin” which was written by a woman who had zero personal knowledge of slavery and pretty much imagined everything.

      There was also a ton of so called “anti-Tom” Pro slavery fiction, which has vanished from popular memory because THAT narrative failed. In reality Slavery was unpleasant, but in general stacked up, in material comfort, surprisingly evenly in many ways with poor free peoples lives as shown by academic Agent going thru the records (see below for link)

      MOST People watching Oppenheimer are probably getting their worldview, or understanding of history, from that movie. The Holocaust Movies do the same thing- making people feel like they are experiencing a virtual experience of events created by other people.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiS-cSUKsh8

      (Just in case it needs to be said…. I think slavery is a bad thing)

      • Rexleo says:

        Indeed, I have not and will not see “Oppenheimer”, precisely because I know they are up to their tricks of rewriting history. I remember NOT seeing the Hollywood movie that seemed to suggest there were three African American women behind NASA’s efforts to 1969’s effort to reach the moon. With all do respect to African Americans, I was in the Navy and have been to Cape Canaveral numerous times, and in all those pictures of the launch operations, and there are many, I don’t remember seeing one African American women, not that they could not be or were not there, I just have not seen it, and to me seeing is believing.

        Now I would pay to see Hollywood make a movie of the Bolshevik coup in Russia in 1917, if nothing else to get tips on where we are heading here in America.

        • Duck says:

          Relaxeo
          “…Indeed, I have not and will not see “Oppenheimer”, precisely because I know they are up to their tricks of rewriting history….”

          The 2 main things that struck me were

          1) Godel was said to be scared “nazi’s” were trying to poison him…..where as I (IIRC) heard jay Dyer quote a paper that said that Godel was scared he was gonna get whacked by a conspiracy of people trying to deliberately make the population stupider

          2) Their take on the Spanish Civil war…which was shown as a fascist attack and glossed over the facts that the Communists were insanely brutal BEFORE the war started in earnest and were also totally in the pockets of the Soviets. Thomas777 was doing a talk ,over on the Pete Quinoes, show about that not long ago so it was fresh in my mind.

          “…Now I would pay to see Hollywood make a movie of the Bolshevik coup in Russia in 1917,….”

          But the people who make movies are of the same ethnicity as the people that made that Revolution. lol so I cant see it happening.

      • Tagourramt says:

        Why don’t you read a diary of a white slave and then tell us how fun it was. Just because the poor white people had a horrible life doesn’t make slavery fun.
        You engage in that debate because you don’t see the difference between skin colour and class. When I see the Victorian horror stories of the poor I think, they don’t even have compassion for their own. I don’t turn it into a victim olymipcs.
        Bill Maher is a Zionist who wants to use the holocaust card while cheering for the killing of Arabs. I don’t have no idea who thought he was left.

        • generalbottlewasher says:

          @ Tag… Can I answer that last question?

          I’ve observed ,That left right thing is a narrow spectrum for most people. I’ve meet a lot a people in the lower 48 states Most don’t know the right & left meet somewhere out of sight.
          The Ultra conservatives,at the center, surrounded by their loyalists. I M H O , the cause of so much suffering in the world.

        • Duck says:

          Tagourramt
          “….Just because the poor white people had a horrible life doesn’t make slavery fun….”

          Are you using Google to translate what I wrote?
          I said FUNNY (as in weird / humorous / odd) thing about slavery, not FUN.

          But, if you watch the video and, think about the interview here, you can draw the following points

          1) Slavery was bad, but NOT generally as horrific as the media today makes people think
          2)’Materially’ Life for slaves was not HUGELY different then poor white peoples lives
          3)Low wage workers today are often, in effect, living lives that are kinda like ‘Free Range’ slavery

          Also
          4) MOST slaves did not rebel, fight or try to escape.

          5) Most slaves do not appear to have had as much hatred of their masters as people born more then a century after those masters died feel for those masters.

          Points 4 and 5 tell us that A)Most people are easy to enslave B)Most people will not hate living their lives as slaves

          “….because you don’t see the difference between skin colour and class…..”

          Skin color is not the issue…. plenty of whites lived and died as slaves and plenty of blacks spent their time catching other blacks to sell to white slave traders on the coast or overland to muslim slave traders (who often castrated their slaves which is why you dont have blacks in Saudi Arabia the way you do in the USA) .

          • HyperSimian says:

            Duck, you’re beyond retarded. Poor whites were not whipped or lynched just for looking at a white woman. Or tortured for not meeting a cotton quota. Your sense of history and reality is so skewed its almost unbelievable but then again you’re a holocaust denier so I’m not surprised.

            • Tagourramt says:

              Please don’t fall for their trap. Never wrestle with a pig because you’ll both get dirty and the pig likes it

              You should never turn human suffering into a competition. Chattel slavery is not only about the horrors of slavery itself but what happend afterwards for example how the Irish were made white. Or holocaust survivors got reparations and their own land.

              ‘I am seeking justice for the murder of my father’
              ‘My father was murdered too, so get over it!’

            • Duck says:

              HyperSimmian

              “….Duck, you’re beyond retarded. Poor whites were not whipped or lynched just for looking at a white woman. ….”

              Generally speaking

              1)Whites AND blacks got lynched… generally for crimes.
              The last black guy who was lynched near where I live (over a century ago) raped afour year old girl and was caught in the act….. I AM GLAD he was lynched, TBH.

              You can read Mark twain writining against lynching, and even he is quite clear that whites got ‘community justice’ too.

              “….Or tortured for not meeting a cotton quota…”

              Was that actually a thing, dude?

              I wont say it NEVER happened….but I dount you can find many first hand accounts accounts of it- go watch the video I linked earlier and listen to the accounts of ACTUAL FORMER SLAVES taken (IIRC) in the 20’s and 30’s.

              As a rule I dont torture farm tools since the last time I beat my lawn mower it worked worse then before.

              “…Your sense of history and reality is so skewed its almost unbelievable…”

              Unbelievable because most people are dumb as rocks and get their history from watching Hollywood movies.

              “…you’re a holocaust denier…”
              Without looking it up can YOU PERSONALLY name 5 DEATH camps? Do you know their location? Did you ever see the Before and After memorial plaque at Auschwitz where they changed the number of deaths?

              If not your probably not someone whos opinion on the matter I should worry about

            • cu.h.j says:

              “retarded” is not a good description of ideas that are incorrect and/or wrong factually or morally.

              I think an objective analysis of evidence should never be criminalized, neither should speech.

              And I do have relatives that came to America to escape the Nazis and they did have to wear yellow stars to differentiate themselves from other citizens during that time and they did fear for their lives and they did lose all of their material wealth and came to this country poor.

              I do think that there were war crimes and acts of depravity and cruelty inflicted on people who did nothing wrong and that this is always wrong no matter who does it.

              Was it worse than what Stalin or another tyrant did? I really don’t know who killed more people but it doesn’t matter it was all bad and evil and cruel. Hitler and the Nazis were authoritarians and fascists and wanted an ethnostate and to “purify” the population of people they viewed as racially inferior. Irrespective of what economic benefits came with his rule, what was done was wrong. Was it more wrong than what Stalin did? This is what people argue about.

              I don’t know but I do think people have the right to discuss it and that it should not be criminalized to present evidence if it exists.

              Why can’t people discuss it, even if it’s offensive? It’s like “climate change” or any number of controversial issues. What I do strongly believe is that no racial or ethnic group has more value than any other and the suffering of one group worse than the suffering of others. Suffering is always terrible. Misery and pain and cruelty are undesirable and to inflict harm on innocent people is always wrong, period.

              • Duck says:

                cu.h.j
                “…Why can’t people discuss it, ….”

                Because the Holocaust story is CENTRAL to the Neo-Liberal American and Zionist world order. It justified the Post WW2 Social Engineering of the US population and the current political order.

                “…I do think that there were war crimes and acts of depravity and cruelty…”

                I 100% agree with you. The Nazi’s did do, and DOCUMENTED their real atrocities…like when they murdered a jewish community. There are records of the food truck and how many rounds they expended and after action reports.

                The ‘gassing’ and ‘death camp’ story is a creation- at first mostly by the Soviets- (which is why most of the ‘death’ camps were in Soviet occupied territory and the number of camps classed as murder centers has been steadily getting reduced since the Iron Curtain came down.

                The more ludicrous stories (like human soap and lampshades) were once ‘news’ but are now regarded by NORMAL historians as post war propaganda. I am sure the Nazis were quite CAPABLE of doing such evil but (being Germans) had they DONE them they would have kept actual records.

                BTW how are you getting on with “Siren Call of the Hungry Ghost” ? Its been a long time since I read and I ought to go back and re-read it but I’ve got way too many books to get thru right now

          • Tagourramt says:

            I REALLY didn’t make that comment so you can mansplain slavery to me.
            Get out of your mother’s basement, go to the first Jewish holocaust commemoration and tell them it wasn’t a big deal compared to ……
            I am sure you can’t even walk into a Starbucks and tell them Januari 6th wasn’t an insurrection

            • Duck says:

              Tag
              “…so you can mansplain slavery to me…..”

              Sorry, did not realize you were a silly girl and not a serious minded woman.

              “…go to the first Jewish holocaust commemoration and tell them it wasn’t a big deal compared to ………”

              So POWER to punish is the most important thing to you? More important then fact or truth. Enjoy living in the Long House.

            • cu.h.j says:

              I think slavery is an evil institution, to view another human being as an object and take away their freedom. That is how I define slavery primarily usage and lack of consent and loss of agency and/or the fruits of their labor and freedom of movement.

              Part of it is mental as well. The covid scamdemic caused damage to my psyche and for the first time I felt how it might be to be a slave and/or under a dictatorship. It took a lot to make me realize that when one lives in a state, they are not free. I’m sure others have suffered physical pain far greater than I have experienced under dictatorships and slavery but the mental harm I experienced when the economy was locked down and there were threats of penalty for leaving my home and/or traveling was profound for me.

              I felt like the last three years I have been in prison and perhaps these are in part my own mental weaknesses and shortcomings but nevertheless I feel like damage was done.

              My point is that mental bondage can have profound harmful effects. There was a poster here who committed suicide in Canada because the totalitarian dictatorship there affected him profoundly. He would rather die than be a slave even if it was in his own mind.

              Slavery is incompatible with happiness IMO, at least the type of happiness that is possible with freedom. This is written about by many people “give me liberty or give me death” for example.

              I do not want to live as a slave and I doubt that other sound minded people would desire this.

              Slavery is an old institution and many races of people were slaves at some time or another throughout history. There have been white slaves too and all kinds of races of people have been slaves. And there are still slaves. Human slavery continues and there are children who live as slaves. In fact slaves are imported into the US and there have been containers of people found being smuggled across the border.

              To me there is no moral defense of slavery.

              • Duck says:

                I was never making a moral defense of slavery
                #SlaveryIsBad 😉

                However I have to say point out regarding

                “…Slavery is incompatible with happiness IMO, at least the type of happiness that is possible with freedom. …”

                That SOME people were happy as slaves and some people were NOT happy.

                Today we live in a world where people are actually FREE to do way more things (at least regarding sex, entertainment, and gender roles) then in the past but more people are massively UNHAPPY then in the past.

                I’d say that we should define ‘freedom’ a bit better since

                A Drug Addict may be ‘free to do drugs, but still a slave to drugs.

                A Porn addict may be free to watch porn but is generally quite EASY to control politically (see “Libido Dominandi by EM Jones)

                When they roll out the UBI and digital ID and CoomPod VR MASSES of people will ‘happily’ accept it (and die) just as masses of people are Ok NOW to be force Vaxx’d but will fight you hard for their right to access E-boobies and netflix

              • cu.h.j says:

                I was speaking in general terms, not that you were making an moral argument for slavery.

                People do have some freedoms here that probably don’t exist elsewhere like China. But if I refused to pay my income tax and started a movement of people who opposed the idea of government, I’m sure I’d get a knock on the door or some other reminder that I actually don’t own the fruits of my labor, no all of them anyway. Also, if I refused to pay my property tax, my house could be seized. And what do I get for this extortion? Possibly protection from enemies that our government has antagonized in the first place.

                Americans get very little for the taxes they pay, the people who pay them. I might get social security but I also might not. So I don’t feel like I am completely free here.

                But freedom should be more rigorously defined. And some people probably do like slavery. But I wonder if they have actually thought about it. Like these weird people who are into bondage for example. If they were really not allowed to leave, I wonder if their opinion would change.

                Drugs are an interesting comparison because addiction is a form of slavery and over time the drug provides less and less. I have never wanted to rely on something external to make me whole and so find addiction intolerable.

                Anyway, I haven’t gotten around the The Hungry Ghost book yet, but will definitely read it soon.

  7. JCh129 says:

    Really enjoyed this interview!!

  8. lisab says:

    James,

    You make the most excellent point to start (post introduction) this interview!

    The origin of our story and all the stories of our histories are discussed, in full here:

    https://thejosephcommunications.co.uk/books/the-fall/

    To broaden one’s overall perspective allows for the space of the whole truth to be remembered. Everyone is accountable. Start seeing how we have all played a part in the original story which led us to our present circumstances and all others which preceded them.

    • lisab says:

      Such an important point made by Neil where he makes the distinction of being able to admit where he was wrong (or how he had gotten it wrong) while also being able to retain who he was at his core.

      We don’t like to let go of what we think is right because so many of us define ourselves by our righteousness. Letting go translates to losing one’s self. That is a mistranslation.

      Instead, letting go of what one is wrong about then opens up the space for the truth to be perceived, the truth that was always present but just not perceived due to self imposing limitations. We block ourselves from seeing the truth of matters if we think we already know all there is to know on the matter. Many of us refer to all the outside sources to back us up.

      But Neil has been relying on himself and that which he aspires toward to gauge how much truth is in the matter of any particular topic.

      Inspirational!

      • lisab says:

        And James goes on to posit the question as to who is framing the narrative(s) which we are all being led. And again, an excellent point to consider. Although most of us are looking in the wrong direction. Again, we are looking to sources outside ourselves to pinpoint who and what is responsible for our “diabolical” mess in humanity.

        In my previous post I highlight Neil’s example of how he used his intuition to re-examine what he has been told as truth. I would like to highlight Neil’s action of turning within to examine what is true, or right, or useful, or responsible for our history and how that led to our present circumstances.

        Neil was able to go through the process of letting go quite easily as he had not defined himself by what others were telling him about who he was, right, wrong, or indifferent, or about the world with which we all participate.

        The question then remains for each of us to ask ourselves, “How am I responsible for the way I choose to see the world and how it operates, what is right, and what is wrong about the whole story of my life?”

        Then the real answers will begin to be revealed.

        I’ve found this site to be most useful when I came up against myself and began to ask the overriding questions that we all must face sooner or later…Who Am I and Why Am I Here?

        https://thejosephcommunications.co.uk/

        • Steve Smith says:

          “Again, we are looking to sources outside ourselves to pinpoint who and what is responsible for our “diabolical” mess in humanity.”

          If the answers lie within ourselves then why are you continually urging people to listen to the ramblings of a guy in a trance supposedly channeling a disembodied spirit?
          A disembodied spirit who has evidently been holding out on sharing this earth shattering, life altering information for thousands of years.
          A disembodied spirit who has come along in the twenty first century to correct the misinformation that the Holy Bible teaches.

          Why should anyone be suspicious about that? 👹

          • Duck says:

            Steve Smith
            “…If the answers lie within ourselves then why are you continually urging people to listen to the ramblings of a guy in a trance supposedly channeling a disembodied spirit?…”

            It may be that such spirits are not as ‘disembodied’ as we may hope. Possession is AFAIK a gradual thing that is creeping up and blinding many people.

            But maybe its just that shilling New Age BS is just promoted because it creates minds that are a blank slate for the Ruling class to write upon.

            • lisab says:

              I’m sorry that you live a fear based life Duck. I know the world of humans can be a scary place. You do sound like a duck, and you do quack like a duck. But I know that you are much more than just a duck. And you are far greater than your little duck body.

              Spread your wings and fly little duck and see how you can soar!

              • Duck says:

                LisaB
                “…I’m sorry that you live a fear based life Duck….”

                Hey, I’m sorry that you lack the fear, or common sense, needed to avoid such an obvious trap as your advertising to us all here

                Siren Call Of The Hungry Ghost….
                a journalist tried to prove reincarnation and found some very disturbing truths. Poor guys dead now.

                https://archive.org/details/TheSirenCallofHungryGhosts/mode/2up

                “…Spread your wings and fly little duck and see how you can soar!…”

                How’d that work out for Icarus 😉

          • lisab says:

            Well, if you looked into the links I’ve provided, then you would have the answers to your questions Steve.

            You still get to decide for yourself if those communications offer any value to you. But you would have to thoroughly examine what is being written on the subject for any measure of validity on your part.

            And it’s pretty clear to me that many people over a couple thousand years became lost in translation of another’s very important message to humanity, one that is very much aligned with The Joseph Communications, but has been thoroughly distorted by you and many others prior to your current existence.

            I’m grateful to all the masters throughout all time who have come through to help us on our plight. I don’t mock any of them. I apply their wisdom and discern for myself what holds true.

            Please refrain from commenting if you have no point of reference from which to comment. Either read what I’ve offered and then state any thoughts, or, keep to your self limitations to yourself and be on your merrily way.

            You are becoming reminiscent of what is commonly referred to as a troll. Stay in your Lane please!

            • Steve Smith says:

              “But you would have to thoroughly examine what is being written on the subject for any measure of validity on your part.”

              And yet you claim that the answers lie within us all and that listening to others is our downfall.

              The disembodied entity has supposedly “inspired” four books via the guy who goes into a trance and receives information that he claims that he doesn’t even remember. He therefore relies on his cohorts to relate the information so that it can be turned into books that will save humanity if only they were harkened to.

              So if I understand what you’re saying, I must read and assimilate this information in order to access the information that I already have inside of me.
              How does that make any sense?

              I believe with my entire being that the Bible contains all the information that mankind needs to be “right with God”.
              I could include links to various translations. Here’s a good one https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/
              But I can also articulate the essential information that it contains pertaining to how a human being can be eternally justified and have perfect fellowship with the Creator of everything that exists in two or three sentences.
              Why is it that you refuse to do the same. Or are you unable to?
              Why is it that you would expect me, or anyone to subject themselves to what is in my opinion a demonic influence in order to discover the “secret“ of your religion?

              “ Please refrain from commenting”
              “keep to your self limitations to yourself and be on your merrily way”
              “Stay in your Lane please!”

              I’m reminded of the old saying, “If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen”.

              You Lisa are the one promoting a “new-age”, likely demon inspired religion which tenets and doctrines you have thus far been entirely unable to clearly articulate.
              And you expect me not to defend my faith? I would willingly die for my faith. I am certainly not going to censor myself because my challenging you causes you discomfort.

              If it distresses you to read my words, then it is your problem and one that is easily remedied by simply ignoring them.
              Though I have to note that for someone who claims to be so enlightened, it is surprising that you are so easily upset.

              I will continue to point out your gullibility and naivety and challenge you to defend your assertions whenever I see fit.
              And I will certainly continue to utilize the effective method of mockery whenever the mood strikes me.
              You have zero power or authority over what I write here or anywhere.

              And yes, in case you’re wondering, I will also continue to pray that you will someday come to a saving faith in the Jesus Christ, Yeshua, the Most High God of the universe.

              • lisab says:

                You misrepresent any claims I have purportedly made. You have what you need Steve. So go with your god and be on your merrily way. I am not upset, so you are mistaken once again. I’m merely standing up to your mockery and trolling behavior. The real question is, why do you feel the need to turn up the heat? Are you being influenced by some darker forces, perhaps you aren’t even aware of them?

                I’ve taken on more ignorant than you sir. I’m not at battle with you. But I may stand up to bullies when I feel the need to put them back in their place. You can easily ignore my posts. I have nothing to offer you, so be it.

                May you find peace with others who may not believe what you believe to be true.

                I’m working with TRUTH and ALL ATTAINABLE KNOWLEDGE. I chose to not limit myself in my search. And I offer to others what I have found useful. We have all read and heard your source. I’m offering something fresher and more modern for easier comprehension. Nobody is being set up. And you know not of any demons other than the ones you are hosting.

                Bless you and yours. All paths lead to the same end, eventually.

              • Steve Smith says:

                “I’m working with TRUTH and ALL ATTAINABLE KNOWLEDGE. I chose to not limit myself in my search. And I offer to others what I have found useful. We have all read and heard your source. I’m offering something fresher and more modern for easier comprehension. ”

                Well, for someone who is working with TRUTH and ALL ATTAINABLE KNOWLEDGE, you sure don’t seem to be able to articulate it.
                Please, by all means share some of your fresh and easily comprehensible knowledge.

                And I have serious doubts that you’ve read the Bible. Much less studied it.

                And who is the “all” that you speak of? Are you saying that everyone who reads these comments has read the Bible?

              • Duck says:

                Steve Smith

                “….You Lisa are the one promoting a “new-age”, likely demon inspired religion which tenets and doctrines you have thus far been entirely unable to clearly articulate….”

                Very true, I rather suspect that she is some ofshoot of the Theosophical types, who were at their start either Government spook’s or revolutionary Fabian types, or both.

                Have you by chance seen the work of Spencer Smith?
                I dont know too much about his theology but his 3rd Adam series is VERY on point
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc7C0ZxDWUA&list=PLYltRndgBlAu-bP_2dLU24Ag-3SkrBHTe&index=4

                His ‘rise of the divine feminine’ (3rd adam 2 IIRC) explains a lot that I’ve seen in mainline churches

              • lisab says:

                Thank you Steve for presenting me with the opportunity to apply wisdom from your book! I do not judge you for you do not know.

                If trying to force me to defend myself is your way of offering anything useful, then please reconsider going on the offensive yet again. I’m not forcing you to defend your beliefs but you seem hell bent on defending yourself against, what, anything that may pose a challenge to your beliefs?

                Why are you taking my offerings so damn personally Steve? I have not addressed my posts to you directly unless it is in reply to your aggrieved behavior. You are not being held up or forced to do anything. You are choosing to attempt to “debunk” my offerings as though you have a full and complete awareness as to what I’m actually offering.

                Others don’t seem to have a problem with how I have articulated myself. If I’m not clear enough for you then you may use my cited resource as a reference.

                But it’s becoming more and more obvious to me that one, you are in way over your head, and two, the foundation of which you stand upon is crumbling beneath your feet.
                Perhaps you should stop stomping around on the bridges that others have built. Your trolling isn’t serving anyone but your own selfish motives.

                If I have challenged you in any way Steve, then I’m glad to be of any help.

              • lisab says:

                I’m amazed at how threatened you are Duck.

                I’m not a threat to you or anyone.

                I’m simply offering something for people who are interested.

                I get it that you are not interested. And that is okay.

                Do you wish to attempt any more insults?

                Is this the manner in which you behave on a regular basis?

                And you are trying to make the world a better place, how?

                Have you been so roasted that you now have to roast others, and for what reason exactly?

                You still have no idea what my offerings are actually offering!

                You have made up your mind. Have fun with that.

                Keep on trolling me and see what you will truly be able to accomplish…

              • Steve Smith says:

                “Why are you taking my offerings so damn personally Steve?”

                What can I say? The repeated pushing of blasphemous new-age, demonic heresy just seems to bring that out in me.

                But now its bedtime. I’ll be back on the job tomorrow. 🙏😇

              • lisab says:

                The Joseph Communications are not religious nor of any spirituality organization or church.

                But you’d know that duck if you looked into it before making any comments on any affiliations.

                What’s insulting is your trolling behavior Duck. What’s insulting is you can easily comment on something that you have no awareness of. What’s insulting is that you target posts on this site only to refute what you disagree with.

                WHO CARES IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE?!

                If you want to have a civil conversation then I’m all ears. But that is not what you are doing Duck. You quack a lot but you never really have anything to say. Just quack quack quack.

                You enjoy gaslighting. You want a reaction. You enjoy arguing, because you think you are right. Go on with your righteousness all you want. It seems to be serving you quite well.

            • Duck says:

              LisaB

              “….I’m amazed at how threatened you are Duck….”

              I’m not…just offering an alternate view. While “Siren Call of the Hungry Ghost” is a NON religious look at what your suggesting Mr Smith’s ‘3rd Adam’ series is a great look at what your offering from a religious guy.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc7C0ZxDWUA&list=PLYltRndgBlAu-bP_2dLU24Ag-3SkrBHTe&index=6

              “….I’m simply offering something for people who are interested….”
              Me too. I love to share good info.

              “….Do you wish to attempt any more insults?…”

              Alternative ideas are an Insult to you????

            • Duck says:

              LisaB

              “…The Joseph Communications are not religious nor of any spirituality organization or church…..”

              Wait….so it NOT some ghost possessing a human and imparting knowledge…? LOL

              As I said, before getting into THAT kinda stuff folks should read “Siren Call of the hungry ghost” where a respected investigative journalist tried to prove such things were real and was horrified by what he found.
              https://archive.org/details/TheSirenCallofHungryGhosts/mode/2up

              “… You quack a lot but you never really have anything to say. Just quack quack quack….”

              Do not listen to me, listen to the journalist who looked into it- see his book linked above.

              Those who want a religious look at Spiritism and spirit guides can go to Youtube and see Spencer Smith’s ‘3rd Adam’ doc’s

              Those who want to know about the Inteligence angle of that kind of thing can read Prof. Spences books (Secret agent 666, ect) or “The Secret life of Houdini” by Kalush

              • lisab says:

                Silly duck once again. Journalists shouldn’t use ouiji boards nor should most anyone else.

                Yes duck, there is danger in fiddling with the unknown.

                And there are a lot of ignorant people using the negative forces.

                And those reports exist to the dangers of fiddling where those who fiddle around are completely ignorant.

                I’m not referencing fiddlers. But you have decided that my offerings are poisonous, so whatever you do, do not read The Joseph communications!

                Most of it would go way over your head anyway.

                Stick with what you know duck!

                How’s that working for ya?

              • cu.h.j says:

                Thanks for sharing this Duck. I’ll check out this book. Though I have felt like some ancestral spirits are hanging around to guide me, I do think there are possibly some “dark entities” that people can tap into/contact. I really have no physical proof of any of this, so it’s more of a belief(s) or ideas of what could be happening for some people.

                At any rate, I find stuff like this really fascinating. I remember when I was a very little kid feeling like I had been here before, like dejavu or a familiarity.

                I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the Tibetan Book of The Dead or ideas from the east.

                At any rate, I think there is a way for people to have different beliefs and interact with others in a non aggressive manner, like JC has shared.

                I’ll have to check out the book you shared.

            • Duck says:

              LisaB

              Lisa B says

              “…. shouldn’t use ouiji boards nor should most anyone else….”

              “…there is danger in fiddling with the unknown…..”

              “… people using the negative forces….”

              ALSO LisaB

              Listen to the advice of a disembodied spirit that we should TOTALLLLLLY trust.

              Again- Siren Call of the Hungry Ghost by Fisher addresses just how stupid that is.

              Third Adam series (on Youtube) by Spencer Smith addresses how stupid it is, but from a religious POV

              Prof. Spence (secret agent 666) and “the secret life of Houdini” by Kalush address the Intelligence and fraudster POV of those things.

              Hell… for examples of this Spookery being Elite driven folks can go over and listen to stuff about the CIA backed seances that got “The Council of Nine” online, or look up the CCRU or just listen to “The Farm” podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/barbara-marx-hubbard-a-strange-and-terrible-journey/id1625511894?i=1000575365322

              • Duck says:

                https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-secret-history-of-cybernetics-w-phillip/id1625511894?i=1000563066911

                Secret History of Cybernetics, The Farm podcast. ALSO related and worth a listen if you consider that engineering of religion and media and history are ALL being used as control mechanisms

              • Duck says:

                Higherside Chats….. this one has a bit on “The Council of Nine” the (Prob CIA operation) ‘channeling’ of disembodied entities.

                I think the section is about 35 or 40 min in but thats just off memory

                https://www.thehighersidechats.com/peter-levenda-sinister-forces/

                Channeling is generally either demonic, or dangerous, or a money scam or a psyop….sometimes all 4 at once. lol

              • lisab says:

                Okay duck. Your references are of more value than mine. You seem interested in the topic but you resist my particular reference. You have so many of your own references. Good job buddy!

                It’s clear to me that you do not wish to look into my references posted. And that is okay.

                You do not have to agree with me. This does not concern me.

                You are working so very hard at discrediting me and what I share without even fully knowing what I’m offering… why do you suppose this is the case?

                I know I know, you already read some books on the topic so you have all that you need to know. Perfect!

                You go Duck!

        • lisab says:

          Once again, Neil puts out there into the conversation an excellent point to contemplate, as has James on many occasions; The essential nuts and bolts of any narrative is language.

          I have found that we are all lost in translation. Every word and thought, written, or uttered, matters. And how we define each of those words as individuals matter. Then we go on to string words together for others to follow our point of view. How we perceive anything must be perceived by others, in our points of view. “This is how I see the world working for the best. Now, do as I say! Trust ME! My way is the best for all involved.”

          If we are not abundantly clear on who we are and what our role in society truly is, then we are all lost in the translation of the entire humanity experiment experience in the first place. Where do any of us go from there?

          Know thy self first. All the rest is there for the experience through your own perception of self.

          • lisab says:

            I’m so happy to have watched and really listened to this interview! Further into the discussion Neil is reminded of some ancient wisdom imparted to him that he once passed off as insignificant and disregarded, but now can see the true significance of that old, ancient, and forgotten wisdom.

            No worries though, because not all is lost. Nothing is lost. Records of all thoughts, words spoken and written, intentions and all actions are kept. All have access in as far as one’s experience allows. These records are called the Akashic.

            And there are several personalities who have attempted to impart ancient wisdom throughout all the generations. Those who wish to control the world keep those wise messages of Truth Hidden and masked. But that includes us as individuals as well as the leaders and rulers. What are we keeping from ourselves?? What have we forgotten? Why are our memories so foggy?

            Michael G. Reccia and The Band of Light) along with other beings (personalities through spiritual communications) are imparting ancient knowledge and wisdom to us through a series of eight books. They also offer a lot of free access to this knowledge. They do not profit from the sale of their books, if that helps any. Check out their website here:

            https://thejosephcommunications.co.uk/

            • Steve Smith says:

              Oh, my bad. I thought there were only four books.

              “They do not profit from the sale of their books”

              I suppose thats kinda like how John Kerry doesn’t have and never has had a private plane. And even testified to that fact in a congressional hearing.
              The fact that his wife owned one doesn’t count ya see. 😂

              I’m sure that the proceeds from the books that are pumped back into Michael G. Reccia and The Band of Light‘s organization are only used humanitarian purposes. After “expenses“ of course 🙄

              • lisab says:

                You are quite sure Steve Smith! You are correct in your assumptions! That’s what you want to hear. But why would I lie to you Steve?

                Either research it for yourself or be on your Merry way. Prove me wrong if you so insist. But you’ll have to look through the website first to find the proof you are looking to validate your well engrained beliefs. Seeing as how we both know you won’t do that, then you know not of which you speak.

                I have nothing to prove to you, or anyone else. Take what I have to offer, or leave it. But to continue commenting on something you know nothing about just seems pitiful to me. I do feel sorry for how lost you appear to be. But I’m also aware that you make your own choices and you have to live with them.
                Bless you dear one!

              • lisab says:

                All proceeds go back into printing more copies of books…but you can look that up yourself and then choose to disregard it as the truth because you already know the truth.

                I’m getting an image of you in a constant state of constipation. I don’t assume that is true about you but you seem very backed up Steve.

                Just stop unloading your shite onto me. This is NOT an unloading zone.

                Can I take it from you? Why would I Steve? Why do you expect me to? Why are you so insistent? You have nothing to stand upon but a slippery soap box.

                Careful!

            • lisab says:

              “But that the dread of something after death.
              The undiscover’d country from whose bourn
              No traveller returns, puzzles the will
              And makes us rather bear those ills we have Than fly to others that we know not of?”

              And THAT quote is the very epicenter of this conversation.

              We are supposed to remember what happens after death. And there is nothing to dread… When this is known or remembered, then “Death” does not exist nor apply. So what are we fearing? The UNKNOWN, or rather, what we have forgotten that we cannot seem to remember. Why? Well, look at all the distractions!

              Remembering what is already KNOWN is the key to unlocking all these mysteries.

              These Communications offer a way of remembrance…and, they are as old as one could possibly remember…

              https://thejosephcommunications.co.uk/

              And, a bonus story to also help us to remember what follows Death…It comes in two parts…

              https://thejosephcommunications.co.uk/soul-group-parables-iv-the-man-who-went-to-funerals-part-i/

              https://thejosephcommunications.co.uk/soul-group-parables-iv-the-man-who-went-to-funerals-part-ii/

            • lisab says:

              Thank you James and Neil for a wonderful and insightful conversation!

              Neil really is hitting so many key points for the overall quest of knowledge and truth. We do have to remember where we came from and we do have to turn to our ancestors (family) for guidance. Their story is our story. But how much of ancient civilizations do we know at this point? How much, if anything have we retained?

              We need to go all the way back to our origins to remember from where we have come. The same story has been repeated, many times over. Are you tired of living the same old story? Are you ready to become the author of your own story?

              For those who are ready for an expansion of awareness by exploring what our ancestors are reaching out to us with, then please consider looking into some more gems of wisdom that you may have disregarded once, if not many times before.

              It is all about our personal responsibilities. Are you ready to take full responsibility for yourself? That’s all one can really do!

              Here’s a great place to continue on your path of self discovery…and reveal how much more you truly are than what you once thought! Is it time to break those chains that bind you? You decide!

              https://thejosephcommunications.co.uk/about/

              • Duck says:

                LisaB

                “…Here’s a great place to continue on your path of self discovery…”

                A better place is the 3rd Adam series by Mr Smith
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc7C0ZxDWUA&list=PLYltRndgBlAu-bP_2dLU24Ag-3SkrBHTe&index=5

                Though the book “Siren call of the hungry ghost” by the highly respected investigative reporter , the late Joseph Fisher. Its up on the internet and well worth a read

              • lisab says:

                Okay Duck, you win. I’ll read your material then I’ll agree with you and then we can be friends? Oh I really hope so!

                Will that work for you duck?

              • Steve Smith says:

                This dead channeled guy Joseph sounds like he is about as specific as Lisab. 🙃

                “Joseph: ‘Things cannot continue in your world as they are. You are still killing each other; you are strangling the planet and you are ignoring your spirituality.
                There is greater urgency with us as time goes on on your level of consciousness – there is at the moment a great potential for destruction. Destruction has come to the Earth before – it came during my time but it also came long before that. Man is far older in physical form than you realise and my reason for visiting you and expending so much energy is to make sure that there is not a third time.
                These are the two choices you have:
                Do something
                …or…
                Do nothing – and the Earth will die.
                You do not have an infinite number of tomorrows in which to put things right. You have to begin now.’“

                What should we do oh great spirit guide??
                The Hokey-Pokey maybe?👯‍♀️

                “Joseph: ‘My reason for contacting the Earth plane again is a simple one: I care. My existence is within a sphere of peaceful vibration. Am I at peace? No, because I am concerned about your world, about the souls on the Earth – about you. We cannot (as part of you, as part of God) turn our backs on the situation – this is why we come back constantly to attempt to change things. My intention is to bring an argument for Light into the darkness and to give you some indication of your abilities as a child of God so that you permeate your physical reality with enough Light to sustain yourselves and to sustain the planet.’”

                Well that certainly clears things up 🙄

                https://pathtothefather.wordpress.com/2019/06/14/exposed-the-joseph-communications-warning/

              • lisab says:

                Steve, you are shooting yourself in the foot!

                Are you okay?

                Good for you though. You copied and pasted something from their website. But as usual, you take a small bit and you poo poo it because…Why? Why exactly can you not pass this up?

                Are you afraid that I might have something to offer that contradicts your beliefs? Why are you so threatened?

                You are screaming for love and attention.

                Enjoy your wife…Jennifer, who you wrote such heartfelt poems. Enjoy your life the way you see fit!

                Bless you and your self imposed limitations.

                God bless you!

              • cu.h.j says:

                Thanks for the share. I appreciate the act of good will. I also find these kinds of topics fascinating.

              • lisab says:

                And finally, to James and Neil,

                Fantastic interview! I read in the stream that this was one of the top three favorite interviews of theirs by James, and, quite frankly, I mostly concur! I think this is my favorite interview across the board, not just of James’s, but of all on this topic.

                If we disregard those ghost stories then we doom ourselves to the repetitive outcome of perpetual failure.

                Humanity continues to fall, repeatedly, over multiple millennia. Even with the highest of academia, even with the highest of minds, even with the highest of aspirations, even with the best of intentions, humanity repeatedly fails.

                And here is WHY…

                “ Aeons ago something happened …and you were there!
                Spiritually speaking, you are ‘not yourself’…

                There is so much more to you than you imagine, and for countless ages you have carried within you suppressed memories of the cataclysmic happening that resulted in the dysfunctional societies and wounded planet humankind has inherited today.

                So says Joseph, the highly evolved spirit communicator, who seeks in this book to access every aspect of those ‘submerged’ memories and reactivate them with reassuring, illuminating knowledge, recounting the events and effects of the Fall and presenting the astonishing story of your personal origins and evolution.”

                …read all about it if you so choose…

                https://thejosephcommunications.co.uk/books/the-fall/

              • Steve Smith says:

                Jeremiah 27:9
                “Therefore hearken not ye to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your sorcerers,

                Jeremiah 14:14
                “Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.”

              • cu.h.j says:

                What I’ve personally found more interesting is going back to the oldest records of religious and/or spiritual beliefs and myths and examining common threads. Not to say what is right and what is wrong, but it’s just fascinating.

                Anyway, I found something on the Emerald Tablet which is supposedly over 30K years old.

                I like some of the ideas and metaphysical philosophy from the East excluding the harmful stuff like caste. There are also some nuggets from the bible.

                But here’s a link from archive.org about the Emerald Tablet. https://archive.org/details/TheEmeraldTabletsOfThoth/page/n45/mode/2up

                I think arts of ancient Egyptian spirituality are really cool. I like the old stuff.

                Cheers

              • cu.h.j says:

                To be clear, I am not promoting any spiritual or religious path or idea or sect, but I find the topics really interesting. Apparently, The Emerald Tablet interpretation or the item itself is a possible fabrication.

                However, there are authentic texts that predate the more popular worldly religions.

                It seems that human beings seek to understand why we are here and/or where we came from and this curiosity and various explanations are shared by humanity in various texts. I think that people here are probably capable of critical discernment and the mention of ideas that are “new age” don’t pose a threat.

                I believe strongly in free speech and expression of ideas even they diverge from my own beliefs. So anyway, I hope that discussion can continue about ideas.

                One thing I consider a tell to a possible scheme however is when knowledge is only granted to certain people and one must pay to receive it. I think that if we are a creation from a cosmic intelligence, knowledge would be free to all seekers with the capacity to learn.

              • lisab says:

                And this cu.h.j……

                The Law of One

                by Ra, an humble messenger of
                The Law of One

                https://www.llresearch.org/library/the-law-of-one

        • TimmyTaes says:

          “Again, we are looking to sources outside ourselves to pinpoint who and what is responsible for our “diabolical” mess in humanity.”

          Lisab: I don’t have to look for who is responsible for the shit mess I live in further than my neighbors and local city council.

  9. ejdoyle says:

    Intro to my book Killing Freedom from about 30 years ago.

    [Following decades of research, observation, and personal experience I have come to this conclusion:

    We are born into a prison of belief systems based on the control and hidden agendas of the organized religions, various secret societies, and major global corporations. They intentionally create a “mean world’ theory using cycles of demons and redemption for profit…be it bad breath, commies, or the devil.

    My intention is to help you see the bigger picture of our life in America. I’d like to assist you in achieving autonomy and intellectual sovereignty in your life, and to not just be living your life on a longer leash, thinking you are free.]

    (From the section on Skull&Bones/The Order or simply the controllers:)

    [The Order’s Machiavellian philosophy (the end justifies the means) is based on the dialectic process of a German philosopher, Georg Hegel who taught conflict creates history, and controlled conflict creates a pre determined history or agenda.

    For a century, using tenure control, what’s been taught at the universities has passed a gauntlet creating faculty conformity. This process eliminates most independent thinkers and non team players when possible.

    The creation of the American Historical Association enabled The Order, to influence the constitution and direction of the AHA. This established an “official” history source guaranteeing The Order is never even hinted at in history and text books.

    The controllers of our lives…have understood the basic dynamics of human conditioning for centuries. It is only recently they have refined their techniques using clinical psychologists and psychiatrist’s findings, drugs, chemicals, sound, film, TV, and more.

    They cleverly use their media to rewrite history, directing future behavior and beliefs in the population’s culture and mind set. When you can predict behavior you control life and its direction, quality, and longevity. Unfortunately most Americans are like lab rats, ring a bell and you salute the flag or praise God.]

    CAUGHT IN THE DREAM (song)
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/VgucD740mQtR/

    • helanda says:

      A sidenote Mr.EJ

      A story from the least developed country in the world is so fucking old it is bothersome.

      You guys stole your country from Indians and made guns. Yeah we get it, guns are cool

      Bla bla bla

      I Iive in Norway and we kinda have the same story, but longer…

      But a story on how to gather the corbetteers in the world, and without any genocide. Wow! Spectacular!
      Catch my drift?

      That we need. We need to write that fuckin history. And that soon.

      For anybody, anywhere. It’s time to unite in real life (IRL)

      I got the meat, I got the weed.
      You got what i need??

  10. Duck says:

    Memory Resources

    THIS is about elsewhere on the net too, but is a pretty good overview of the technology of “artificial memory” that the Greeks pioneered and reached its height in a kind of occult self improvement tech in the renaissance.
    Frances Yates, Art of Memory
    https://archive.org/details/artofmemory0000fran

    An Easy start onOld and Modern memory tech with some history is Dr Metivier’s Magnetic Memory Channel on YT and website. He is somewhat weird, and the practice has helped him with his mental illness but quite pleasant to listen to
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdIwC3d4CRjrrQdaqZaNBpA
    His site
    https://www.magneticmemorymethod.com/mmm-podcast/

    Anti-net “Zettlecastern” cardfile systems…. quite a cool tech that I’m trying to get good at.
    The guy is total hipster, but his teaching is good
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5kI1l7JXGY&list=PLSofW8L-FnU9IYwmDTCnKM_IBOtO0nEqm

  11. ejdoyle says:

    Foolish comments that make no sense.
    You might have commented on what I said.
    You might have commented on my song.

    But no, this narcissistic nonsense of web know it all’s appears to be world wide. :-/ Unable to articulate anything of interest you need to push your opinions, what ever the hell they are supposed to mean????

  12. Duck says:

    An example of how history is shaped by media is the case of Matt Shepard- who is still held up as a martyr even though he was literally killed by FELLOW drug dealing bum chums and NOT by homophobes.

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53541699-the-book-of-matt

    The fact that he was a good looking fellow from a good politically connected family made the lies and myths about his murder quite useful in shaping public opinion.

  13. madhu says:

    A mind-expanding and heart-warming conversation. (And the Shakespeare quote made me think of Star Trek VI too, so it made me laugh when you mentioned that.)

  14. I like Neil Oliver. As others have noted, he’s a little slow to be red-pilled, but hey
    better late than never! 🙂

    If 9/11 and the scamdemic (arguably two of the most historical events of the past 25 years) are any indication of how history will be written for future generations, then I say live your life day-by- day to the fullest and take everything else, including history books with a grain of salt.

    For we are witnessing the fudging of history in real time, today.

  15. candm says:

    Great conversation – justifies an increase in my book-buying budget. =)
    It’s quite the challenge while homeschooling my children to instill that cynicism into their reading of the printed narratives in history. My idea of heroes has changed so much in recent years. If it hasn’t been broached recently on the Corbett Report, a discussion of “heroism” and the misappropriation of that title would be stimulating.

  16. Torus says:

    “Throughly enjoyed, I love free ranging conversation that goes into unexpected territory…”
    What a perfect close to this incredible conversation with Neil Oliver.

    I’ve been watching his monologues on Bitchute the past couple years. He asks very thoughtful rhetorical questions and encourages self-examination and self-accountability. And “historian” or not, I find his insights, well, insightful.

    Honestly, this interview makes the top three list of my Corbett favorites. Perhaps because these two gentlemen have spent time together (in real physical life) there was an extra layer of energy and openness expressed. That familiarity adds something I think.

  17. jeffreyp says:

    I’m so glad you and Neil had this incredibly important discussion. As I’m listening to your discussion in the background as I write this, I’m confident when I say, “There is no greater importance of your entire life and careers as independent journalists/historians than the discussions of society’s delusions of their history created by corrupt historians—many under threat by leaders; Presidents, Kings & Queens and other dictators owned by the war-profiteers,” I hope you realize. Consider those of today who own social media and government officials manipulating today’s history second by second, no longer century by century, with punishments so we “think correctly.”

    I’d like to beg both of you to have several hundred more “professionally-produced programs,” breaking down history-frauds over the past several thousand years:

    —Who’s been writing our history century by century (such as Rockefeller’s takeover of education & textbooks mid-1800s);
    —AI’s interpretation of history—by “who” programing AI’s definitions;
    —Who’s had the most to “gain” by controlling and even burning entire libraries over the past several “thousand” years (there are hundreds of events going back prior to the city of Rome and the centuries after the so-called fall of Rome—which did NOT fall, but was erroneously transformed);
    —And of course, who are those few in complete control over today’s history being written for tomorrow;
    —Who and why are a small group of individuals burning ancient and recently-written books, to this day, then evolving the “digital truths” to replace all of those lost history books—including what you’ve already touched upon;
    —The recently written corrupt history of 911, the pandemics, the need for mRNA compulsory vaxx programs, CBDC transformation…who’s got the most power controlling our views and what do they gain by it??

    If I were a wealthy producer, I’d purchase a studio just for this topic just for you and Neil, plus guests you choose to participate. I hope, if you can find a way, that you two will consider attempting a “much greater” collaboration, with professional producer-editors who understand the outrageous “fraud” of most history textbooks in our American schools today—to produce a several-year running program with thousands of episodes. I’m not kidding. As I continue to read and research for my own book (encyclopedia spanning 14 thousand years) of War & Economics of war at the center of all of humanity’s problems, I’m overwhelmed by how much I must rethink and rewrite (not erase the frauds—so the future will understand the deceptive practices of history textbook writing) and then add back into the record of our textbooks that which has been “cleansed” to “drive” humanity, and not for preservation of society, but what I believe is “their” openly stated agenda to completely destroy humanity.” (I always encourage everyone to please visit and study the 3 hour audio recording of the Protocols of Zionism from the 1800’s on my substack: https://jeffreyplubina.substack.com/ It does’t explain everything, but it sure as hell opens enough doors to allow for a much greater understanding and more competent research of who and why the world is how it is today). Thanks, James & Neil.

  18. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Language Arts

  19. Tagourramt says:

    Funny how even thou we think alike we stand in opposite. He really thinks 9 /11 was box cutters and I old man on dialysis in a cave.
    I will take his advice and start memorising the Quran and by all the books on colonialism.
    I’ll start with : The Wretched Of The Earth by Frantz Fanon

  20. Torus says:

    At 53:00 in the interview Neil says the wrongs that everyone feels will right themselves. It’s the natural order of things. The universe seeks equilibrium. I just said the something similar when commenting to Gavinm the other day…

    https://www.corbettreport.com/july-open-thread-2023/#comment-153315

    “Humanity will find balance I believe. The technocrats will not achieve the control they so desire. Their dystopian dreams will not come to fruition. The brilliance and goodness of humanity will shine, because we are expressions of Creation Itself; we are bursts of life-energy flowing within the great toroidal dance, always making our way back to equilibrium and harmony.”

    I must say it’s nice to hear those ideas validated. I appreciate his thoughts on remembering where we came from, where we’ve been, and that we are here because our ancestors survived and thrived. Dead reckoning, A much needed reminder.

  21. hanky says:

    I was disappointed. I prefer The approach that James usually takes, which relies on evidence and logic, logic that is firmly based on strong evidence. I like Mr. Oliver’s accent, but not his self-indulgent fantasies, when it comes to the great scheme of things. I thought some of his ramblings were trying James’ patience as much as mine, but if that was the case, James never let on, and maintained an agreeable atmosphere, always responding to him respectfully and politely. But his face looked bemused. So, I don’t really know if he had to use his skills of diplomacy, or if he genuinely thought his guest’s speeches were valuable and relevant.
    I thought it was the least valuable episode that I have seen, and I have seen them all. I felt Mr. Oliver was too mesmerized with his own visions and mental creations.
    BTW I agree with several of the analogies, such as the pendulum swings in history and culture, but this didn’t illuminate any of that for me.

    • TimmyTaes says:

      hanky: This was my favorite James Corbett Report in years. He’s the best speaker James has had on his show and a better speaker than James himself.

      James’ face didn’t look bemused. He looked like he was out of his depth.

      • HomeRemedySupply says:

        I tend to lean with Hanky on this.
        There was a lot of wasted oxygen in that 70 minutes, and on top of that I wasted some more time listening to much of Oliver’s lecture, but I was enthralled with the story about the shipwreck.

        I like stories.
        People tend to gravitate to a well-told story which attracts attention and interest.
        Witness Hollywood and the Media which completely relies upon “the telling of stories”.
        People will “buy the story”, or not, monetarily and otherwise.

        James Corbett
        How to Save the World (in One Easy Step!)
        https://www.corbettreport.com/how-to-save-the-world-in-one-easy-step/
        EXCERPT
        “Have you figured it out yet? Story is the most powerful weapon. Narrative. Ideas presented in such a way as to provoke certain thoughts or actions.”

        • TimmyTaes says:

          HRS: I agree that it is all about stories. IMO Neil Oliver is a better storyteller than James Corbett. I mean no offense to James. His talents lie in being an investigative reporter.

        • hanky says:

          I see Mr. Oliver’s charisma, or maybe see through it. We are so inundated with media like this, it is necessary to be selective, due to time and energy constraints. Conspiratainment is the first to go for me. Over-indulgence in this is a sin for real truthers. I think James would agree. To me his style is head and shoulders above this guest’s. Heavy on repeatable data and links, light on navel-gazing ‘spiritual conjectures and unknowable rationalizations of how things must balance out. I have been around the block, and I have good reason to be leery of being seduced by our own mental creations. Like cotton candy, it feels so good, but it is not a viable main course.

        • mkey says:

          This reminds me of a recent statment by Curtis Stone who, during his live shows, stated that he will keep producing less and less content because he does not want people to watch his videos and instead to do what it takes in real life to turn everything around. He doesn’t want his audience enthralled with mundane. Kind of “time to leave the nest” type of thing.

          Something in a similar vein was shared by Freeman some months back when he stated that when everything is said and done, ideallt, he expects to go completely offline and live his life locally as it was intended.

    • hanky says:

      I see Mr. Oliver’s charisma, or maybe see through it. We are so inundated with media like this, it is necessary to be selective, due to time and energy constraints. Conspiratainment is the first to go for me. Over-indulgence in this is a sin for real truthers. I think James would agree. To me his style is head and shoulders above this guest’s. Heavy on repeatable data and links, light on navel-gazing ‘spiritual conjectures and unknowable rationalizations of how things must balance out. I have been around the block, and I have good reason to be leery of being seduced by our own mental creations. Like cotton candy, it feels so good, but it is not a viable main course.

  22. HomeRemedySupply says:

    1 of 2
    Texas’ Oldest Newspaper – July 26, 2023
    Texas State Senator Mayes Middleton this week asked an organization that tells Texas history not to renew its chief historian’s contract over derogatory comments about the Alamo.
    https://archive.is/yuqAP

    Texas Observer – Essay
    It’s Time to Defend the History of All Texans
    The way we learn about our collective past is under attack.

    https://archive.is/xUJVd

    Texas Monthly
    Traditionalists Protest What Some Consider a “Woke” Takeover of the Texas State Historical Association
    Inside the arguments, lawsuit, and angry outbursts that are dividing a key authority on historical matters.

    https://archive.is/OjVvp

    I was lucky. I spent most all of my public school years in Texas schools in various towns around the state, and I was born during the age of TV westerns.
    Texas public schools required that Texas history be taught at several different grade levels. Texas history was like a religion, with often stage play events about Texas history presented by a grade level, complete with a myriad of Texas songs. In the classroom, we learned how to make soap from lard, ashes and sand. We built salt/flour miniatures of the Alamo, and drew maps of where the Native American tribes lived in Texas. We learned of the Six Flags Over Texas before the first theme park was built between Dallas and Ft Worth.

    LOOK at this… [IMAGES]
    For decades, a comic book showing Texas history in the most racist ways was given to Texas students
    Watchdog Dave Lieber reports on how ‘Texas History Movies’ cartoons were created by The Dallas Morning News and lived on for 30 years.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220325001011/https://www.dallasnews.com/news/watchdog/2021/12/17/for-decades-a-comic-book-showing-texas-history-in-the-most-racist-ways-was-given-to-texas-students/

    I well remember this comic book. Every school had at least one copy. I revisited it many times.

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      2 of 2
      I fell in love with Texas History.

      In the 1960’s, 70’s and 80’s, I made personal excursions around the state exploring old sites. This is before the time of the modern day “fix-up and clean” era. Old cabins. “Ghost towns”. A field of tall unkempt grass harbored rock walls of an old Spanish fort from the 1700’s, or an old school. A long gone, riverside sawmill that still had the wheel’s trench.
      I remember the first time I saw this Historical Marker…
      Silver Mine Pass (2 mi. West) – Named for silver mine opened near pass by Spaniards in 1700s or earlier…
      …Near the mine are remnants of a fortification made by 30 men under the leadership of James Bowie, later (1836) a hero of the siege to the Alamo. In 1831, while at work at this mine, Bowie’s men repulsed a Comanche attack in a fierce, all-day battle.
      Hero of the fight was Bowie’s slave, “Black Jim Bowie,” who risked his life by leaving the fortification to bring water to the besieged. (1968)

      IMAGE of Historical Marker https://texashistoricalmarkers.weebly.com/silver-mine-pass.html
      And Texans are known for stretching things a bit… Believe this story if ya want:
      The Billion Dollar Lost Silver Mine of the Hill Country … and eighty Indians were killed by Bowie’s crew.
      https://texashillcountry.com/billion-dollar-lost-silver-mine-hill-country/

      The details of the many stories surrounding Texas History have faded in my memory.
      But certain “Things that Inspire” stuck, and I strive for these, such as noble adventure, independent action, liberty, insouciance to authority, courage, integrity, compassion….

      • Duck says:

        HRS

        I took a Hispanic girl (and some other folks) to the scout museum one time and they had a picture of the Founding Fathers signing the Constitution (or something like that). She had zero knowledge of what I was talking about when I mentioned it to her, aged about 10 or so.

        Her mom was an immigrant, dad born here, pretty good family but the school had done little to nothing to program the ‘Americanism’ into any of the kids. Now, while I can expect an Anglo kid to at least have an interest in people that he might have some vague sense of relation to there is little desire in Hispanic folks to absorb a history that either has zero link to their families history or culture without dedicated indoctrination.

        To be honest, getting colonized by Hispanics is massively better then getting colonized by muslims, but IMO Texas in 10 to 20 years is going to be culturally and politically way more like South America then it is now. The only way the culture doesn’t shift with demographics would be a massive drive in schools and there is no political will to sustain that IMO.

        • HomeRemedySupply says:

          I understand. I have Hispanic friends and relatives. My grandkids are part Hispanic, but don’t speak the lingo. They speak Generation Z.

          Ethnically, Texas is radically different than it was in the 70’s and 80’s.
          Not that that is a bad thing, but there are too many people here.

          Through the decades, I’ve had a lot of friends who were from Mexico, Central and South America. Much of my Spanish, I learned from them.
          Immigration laws in the 70’s and 80’s were much more strict, and La Migra would sometimes raid the Hotels or different factories.

          In 1980, working the night shift as Bellman at a large 14 acre Hotel which looked like a castle, I would go down to talk to the kitchen clean-up crew. Many times they would cook me a steak or lobster (on the house) and they would tell me jokes in Spanish while I ate at the bar. Great way to learn the lingo. When we got off, as the sun was coming up, sometimes we would go to the park and drink beer together. I would give them and their friends rides around Dallas to wherever they needed to go. Most could not speak English.
          Coyote – (people smuggler) – 5 or 6 of them wanted me to take them to Houston where they had jobs lined up. We joked, and I would be their Coyote and do the trip for $125.
          One time I took a guy to a place. The guy couldn’t speak English, ‘cuz he was a wetback. He said with a grin “Watch this” (in Spanish) as we pulled up behind another car which had a wetback sitting in it. He went up to the wetback and asked for ID, pretending to be some kind of La Migra guy or something. Scared the wetback pretty good. I’m in the car laughing. The irony of it all.
          The world was more free back then.

  23. TimmyTaes says:

    Neil Oliver is one of my favorite vloggers. All of his videos are very good.

  24. TimmyTaes says:

    I agree with Neil. I read history for the stories. I pass on my stories but if they survive or not matters not a whit to me after I’m gone.
    I’m not afraid of the Far Country.
    It’s this country that scares me.

  25. TimmyTaes says:

    James Corbett: This is a great interview with Neil Oliver. Your talks about keeping analog CDs, books, and vinyl records are correct. Ray Bradbury’s “Fahrenheit 451” comes to life.
    I donated to you 100 US dollars just now. No need for a thank you or anything.
    All the best,
    TimmyTaes

  26. TimmyTaes says:

    At about the 52:00 mark, Neil talks about how we are reacting physiologically to the crap going on in society today. I agree. The last time my body felt right and my mind was at ease was March 16th, 2020.
    I hate HATE, the world I live in today.

  27. Aaron says:

    Just fantastic Guys, such a great conversation! I really got a lot of out of this, so good, food for thought and memory.. Thanks so much for all your work. I would love to here you guys speak again. Inspired me greatly. Peace out!

  28. dave67 says:

    What a very interesting discussion you two had. Enjoyed!

  29. Allen Taylor says:

    I really enjoyed this interview! First of all, my grandma was Scottish and I loved listening to Neil’s Scottish accent. Secondly, I agree about having physical books. As a home schooling family we have a lot of books. Even though we do give books away (so that we can physically fit into our house :)) we keep those that are either important for information or those fiction books that have not been adapted by people wanting them to be politically correct.
    A very recent example that we found on our shelf is of a book containing Canadian biographies (short ones meant for elementary kids) one of which is of Sir John A Macdonald. Right now, with many Canadians trying to erase him from history (which is ridiculous since he was our first PM) we need to have these stories. The last couple of sentences in the biography were a quote from supporters when he ran for re-election in 1887 “You’ll never die, John A.” and then ends with this: “They were right. Macdonald lives on forever in the history of Canada, and in the hearts of Canadians who celebrate that history”. This is definitely not what we are seeing right now in Canada.

  30. hpete says:

    Interesting but rather befuddling interview. I like Neil, his accent, and presentation, but I am not sure about the idea of history as a story. Neil says he is not a historian per se, but an archeologist. Yet he is considered a “popular historian” by many people today. Today everybody invokes this “story” approach to everything, everybody supposedly likes a story and wants to listen to stories. Sadly, most stories today are trite and banal stuff only little children would want to listen to.

    Has James considered retelling his, say WW1 documentary, as such a modern “story” with all the complexity behind it? Perhaps he should try a 5 minute WW1 version, like his 5-minute 9/11 story?

    Whatever happened to real scientific history approach when academically educated historians were sincerely seeking to discover what real history is or ought to be based on? Like a 1934 essay or research study “Sociology as a Science” by Christopher Dawson in which he masterfully analyzed different aspects of history as “science”:

    “History and sociology are, in fact, indispensable to one another. History without sociology is ‘literary’ and unscientific, while sociology without history is apt to become mere abstract theorizing.” Etc.

    Dawson’s whole approach was “scientific”, and that included “natural science” – “it is equally impossible to understand the life of man and society without the help of natural sciences.” Only through such systematic approach we can arrive at the concept of culture, and that must include concepts of morality, religion and spirituality.

    What is the essence of Neil’s shipwreck story that “women and children” ought to be saved first? Well, it implies morality. What is morality and where did it come from? Well, it was the result of Britain being “civilized” as Neil mentioned in his 2021 lecture. What did this civilization imply? Well, it was Roman civilization and especially Christianity that civilized various barbaric tribes in the Roman Empire which had a very different “barbaric” view of civilization and morality, and which did not necessarily mean that women and children would be saved first. (Many barbaric tribes held women in common, treated them as slaves, abortion and child-killing was rampant, etc.) But none of this is conveyed to modern “children” via such stories, mostly to poorly educated and irreligious modern ‘child-adults’ who know nothing about real barbaric history and the morality that Christianity and even Roman civilization brought.

    https://www.dbu.edu/mitchell/_documents/a-dawson-overview.pdf

    BTW, I don’t care about amassing tons of books, DVD’s, etc. A good library is essential, but one must be selective. Most people want simple a straightforward answers, like Chesterton’s “A Short History of England” —

    https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/20897/pg20897.txt

  31. Frode says:

    This was an interesting and enjoyable conversation. Thank you!

  32. I found the interview very interesting, but the conclusion, about his most recent book, was a sour ending. I have no interest in reading or hearing such stories. I would rather spend my time, effort, and energy on things I believe are true and valuable, like studying Torah, Tanach, and the messianic writings. Seeking and pursuing truth, not filling my mind with fiction.

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