Interview 1638 - James Corbett Redpills the Permaculture Crowd

05/12/202158 Comments

Takota Coen of the Building Your Permaculture Property podcast talks to James Corbett about why the permaculture movement needs to wake up to the conspiracy reality before it's too late. After recommending three reports to help people understand the systems of control that are steering society right now and giving an overview of the coming technocratic neo-feudal biosecurity state, James confronts the canards about overpopulation and the programmed propaganda training the public to desire their own death. Finally, James and Takota talk about solutions and the way forward.

VIDEO COURTESY OF TAKOTA COEN: BITCHUTE / YOUTUBE

SHOW NOTES:
Building Your Permaculture Property podcast

Century of Enslavement: The History of The Federal Reserve

From Farm Boy to Financier (Saturday Evening Post confession regarding the Federal Reserve conspiracy)

How & Why Big Oil Conquered the World

Episode 086 - Medical Martial Law

Looking Forward to the End of Humanity – #PropagandaWatch

Klaus Schwab in 2016: Brain Chips Will Be Implanted in the Next Decade

Questioning 9/11: The Politician Turned Conspiracy Theorist (Mainstream hit piece on former German defence minister / 9/11 truther)

Evidence for Informed Trading on the Attacks of September 11 (including info on Wirt Walker III)

SEC admits its 9/11 informed trading investigation records were destroyed

Meet Paul Ehrlich, Pseudoscience Charlatan

The Ultimate Resource by Julian Simon

Mouse Utopia and The Blackest Pill – #PropagandaWatch

How Can A Global Conspiracy Work? – Questions For Corbett #074

Fluoride Fight: The forced drugging of society

Episode 092 – Environmentalism is Corporate Controlled

A Message to the Environmental Movement

U.S. Military Is World’s Biggest Polluter

#SolutionsWatch

Solutions: The Peer-to-Peer Economy

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  1. TruthSeeker says:

    James explains the Reaction to his 2005 silly Joke at Canadian Customs as his wake-up call.
    I have had similar encounters from both Canadian and U.S. Customs over the years, but the one that seems most relevant here is being subjected to similar Interrogation by Canadian Customs in 2012 when crossing into Windsor Ontario. Having been a Teacher myself, I, of coarse, had to find out why I set off the Interrogation, which backed me up an hour or so (believe it or not, I would have thought I had better things to do, but then, I would not have this story to tell). As it turns out, (and they did not directly tell me this), it was the “Liberty Radio” (think Erie Hancock) Bumper Sticker on my car. I don’t doubt that I was already on their “Interesting Person” List, however I think they needed find out about this “Liberty Radio” connection. In others words, they, (the international Oligarchs) needed more information as to how to keep this guy off the Radio.
    Jame’s Silly Joke in 2005 was taken as disrespectful of Canadian Customs and a display of not being under the Spell of their Propaganda. Yep, Canadian Customs found James to be a “Person of Interest”, or an “Interesting Person” in my book.
    And, the rest is History, eh!
    Keep up the Good Work!

    • hugo.c says:

      Thank you for your story, and for referencing James’.

      I wish to invoke the “compassion for the torturer” argument. (Shoot me down).

      Firstly, I am not making any legal argument, and secondly I am not condoning these actions by “Border Force” or whatever they’re called.

      I can, however, see their responses inside their realm. You’re working at Airport Security not because you are rich, but because you got the job and it pays well enough. You are instructed to probe/investigate/read/interrogate travellers’ possessions and information because TERRORISTS. And you believe this mass propaganda.

      This is the important bit: just like the “Blue Line” unity of insulation from reproach by the USA police, it exists everywhere. These privileged, armed forces feel a need to defend their power because *they* believe that they are “defending X”. This is the *background* propaganda. And, they have reason to believe this because they catch drug traffickers or whatever else.

      So, thats the background and you throw “terrorists” on that. Of course they go ballistic.

      I ask you all to consider these “border control agents”. Some are surely just racist power hunger arseholes, but many are just “feed my family” regular people. The fact that they are collectively co-opted into this abuse of civil rights is interesting.

      (Breathe out) Now for the really shitty part. During the Nuremberg Trials it was decided that following an order to do some heinous crime was not an excuse. Where is the incentivisation and propaganda included in these verdicts? (Again, I am not a lawyer, this is not a legal argument). There are things which should be morally repugnant to anyone; burning people alive. But, there are lesser actions “controlling food availability” or whatever, which require a dismantling of moral guards. This is possible via propaganda and influence/bribery.

      There it is. To what degree should “you have to refuse illegal orders” be applied to a heavily propagandized population of legally insulated forces of coercive power?

      I have no answers, but pose the difficulty.

  2. padraig says:

    james i’d like to thank you again for the 485’th time. you are a gentleman and a scholar. a rare example of someone who has, and is, helping the world see through the gauze. to break the indoctrination. to lift. not kick. fucking awesome buddy.

    thank you

    peace.

    • Cody says:

      +1 from me, thanks a million. I can honestly say this community and James has changed my life.

      I like it when at times he is less patient and just says it like it is.
      Good interviewer also though, I am going to check that network out. I am becoming more and more into that homesteading thing.

      My moment of clarity in this interview was also the ‘Just walk away’ comment. Because that minimises their influence. And the price for not having to run the rat race and be left alone is minor: I do not want what they have to offer.

      It almost is starting to feel like the 19th century farmer who goes into town sometimes for supplies. Then goes back to his farm. In and out of that world. Hopefully with very little or no interference.

      Hopefully we are not being jammed into a corner to such an extent we are forced to become either criminalised or have to become very vocal, attain power and become suicided.

      Either way, I think I am choosing to fly under the radar…

  3. weilunion says:

    What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny “failed to take into account man’s almost infinite appetite for distractions.” In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us.

    • hugo.c says:

      Orwell was the child of a family which had made money during the Opium Wars in China, and was a policeman in British occupied Burma. He resigns and spent years living amongst the poor of society in the UK and continental europe (France, principally). He then went to fight against the fascists in Spain and wrote Animal Farm, an allegory of the communist revolution in Russia. Following that, whilst dying of a Dickensian disease Tuberculosis, wrote 1984.

      I would say that the man was complex, and his motives too. He certainly was a stickler for a style or writing which is as devoid from fluffery as one can get.

      Huxley came from a privileged family, and that makes me intensely suspicious. Orwell rejected his privilege and tried to find his own truth. Neither situation improves either argument; judge for yourself. Insight can be obtained from both.

      I love your final line “In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us” but I think your analysis is a little short.

      Orwell was saying that the *generation* of hate will ruin us.

      Huxley was saying that the *generation* of affection will ruin us.

      And there is the commonality. c.f. Edward Bernays.

    • Alchemist says:

      Huxley wrote a blueprint. Orwell wrote a multi-layered masterpiece about perception.

  4. weilunion says:

    …The general public is being reduced to where people not only are unable to find out about the truth they also become unable to search for the truth. They are satisfied with deception and trickery that have determined their convictions. They are satisfied with a fictitious reality created by design… – Josef Pieper

    • hugo.c says:

      Yes.

      Russia, China, USA, Chile and Togo are divine and absolute. Their motives are pure and their histories are inviolate and precise.

      Everyone else is a heathen, uneducated, inferior, unworthy human living under the despotic rule of an equally horrible regime. The coalition of the willing Togo, Chile, USA, China and Russia shall defeat these despotic regimes to free the poor unworthy, inferior, uneducated, heathen humans from the despotic rule under which they suffer.

      So be it writ.

  5. weilunion says:

    The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One – BILL BLACK Pt 1/9

    https://theanalysis.news/economy/the-best-way-to-rob-a-bank-is-to-own-one-bill-black-pt-1/

    Black is an economist and attorney who policed the S and L crisis.

    He speaks about crimigens,like pathogens, but applied to law.

    The crimigens rule. For now. They are the cancer in the system

    This is a great series by a very intelligent interviewer and interviewee

  6. weilunion says:

    Last post about peerage and the Anglo American Empire.

    The Peerage Registry http://www.thepeerage.com/

    Did David Klinkenberg solve the de Vinci code?

    https://www.dailyscanner.com/david-klinkenberg-talks-about-his-solution-to-the-da-vinci-code-and-what-it-means-for-the-world/

  7. Another awesome video with James in the interviewee position.
    Once again I feel like I owe an admission fee.

    Also, while watching this, it struck me how bleak and hopeless everything would feel right now if there was no James Corbett.

    • hugo.c says:

      Hi AnimalsArentFood,

      Yes, a great episode.

      There are many opportunities to expand your inspiration. Whilst I greatly appreciate James’ publications, there are other “truth tellers” out there, some contemporary, and a vast lineage of them in our past.

      There are poets, playwrights, historians, philosophers, political activists, revolutionaries, priests, mullahs, writers, film makers, and people just down the street.

      The really fun part is that that whilst writing a poet may also write plays in a historical context in which a philosophy is presented which has a political objective, which may be revolutionary and incorporate religious moral truths which may be converted into a film which your neighbour wishes to discuss!

      Inspiration is everywhere, especially in your garden or local park.

      With love.

  8. DogStar says:

    I very much appreciated this segment; Takota Coen asked excellent questions and it was helpful for me in that JC spoke to the topic of environmental destruction. These days I no longer feel that I have to agree with nearly everything stated on a site in order to support it; I find JC’s aggregation of data laudable and valuable and the covid debacle, alone, is a bond for many on this site.

    I agree with TC that we can mitigate much of the environmental devastation given time and the tools, but IMO I don’t believe that the planet can be pristine in the way it was even a mere 60 years ago. I’ve traveled a great deal about the U.S. over the years and have – in my short lifetime – viewed the deterioration in far too many areas. I rather doubt that even those a mere 20 years younger than am I can really know how utterly beautiful many areas were, once upon a time.

    I’m an environmentalist, so yes, I will always pick up on that topic, and what I can say from my perspective is that the many I know personally who believe as do I are not eugenicists. Also, any speculation regarding overpopulation is now moot, due to decreasing birth rates (thanks to pollutants).

    Regardless of how I believe everything’s going to turn out, I do make an effort to be responsible as to my everyday choices (e.g., I’ll definitely skip the plastic straws and I drive an energy efficient car…). Not out of some belief that the future of the planet depends upon my actions alone, but from the spiritual aspect of right action.

    • westerncivic says:

      The good human spiritial intentions here expressed are are being misdirected with sophisticated propaganda.

      I used to get paid by the Sierra Club to lobby. Environmentalism defined my very entry into politics.

      We simply need to redirect our good instincts to the proper targets. Corbett’s thoroughly documented work can help us hone the sights.

      …even if his solutions are AnCapish (and therefore deeply problematic/useless; as Anarcho Capitalism is the very basis of this dystopian status quo.). I come for the good info.

      American gang politics is about the most ingenious redirection of vast human energy into useless waste ever concocted. Trust me, I know. Wasted decades on the Democratic Party and managing candidates and I did the lobbying. It’s gone.

      There is no legitimate gov’t anywhere in the world. There is only television.

  9. Thom says:

    Our house (our world) is on fire and the roof appears ready to collapse now.

    The firefighters were called hours ago and have finally arrived but appear to be in awe of the size and magnitude of the fire and are standing by watching as the blaze continues to grow.

    Some people run from the house while others seem to be trapped inside or have been overcome by fear and paralyzed.

    And the house burns on…

  10. zyxzevn says:

    The Harsh Truth – Why So Many Refuse To See It
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIH9neolGUw
    Henna Maria explains how people can not see the truth of
    the current situation and the evil of the state.

    • Jeff says:

      This person really gets it. The part about people believing nothing is real anymore very much resonates – I see this in so many people in my town and it is difficult to talk to. I really liked what she had to say to this and everything else for that matter. Thanks for sharing this link.

    • mik says:

      Thanks for the video.
      Maria is excellent passionate motivational speaker.

      In this speech her target audience is, lets say awakened people. Many would say she did a good job, not really I would say. There is a lot of prevailing misconceptions in her thought and psychologizing (and talking about “our rights” what makes me sick). Her last statement shows that well: “…….defend our true nature, which is: freedom and love.”
      Freedom, ok…but…love????
      Love sounds great, beautiful, inspiring….but also misleading, for flourishing human coexistence much more is needed and thankfully also is part of human nature, for example Fairness.
      Love, love comes later, I’m even inclined to believe it is a corollary.

      • Mishelle says:

        There are 2 fundamental tactics of would-be tyrants, Fear and Love. Both are means of coercion. I like Henna and find her to be truly courageous, but she has completely immersed herself in New Age philosophy so deeply I fear she does not see how High on Hopium she really is and the fact that Love is a tool of the State. I wrote a post about this a while back (The Case Against Love—KenshoHomestead.org). The ‘Human Potential’ movement started preaching ‘Brotherly Love’ over a century ago—it has accomplished exactly nothing good, imo. Folks don’t even know what it means to love their own children, yet somehow we’re all supposed to love one another around the globe. It’s ludicrous and totally ineffective preaching hopium for the masses b/c what we get instead is Stockholm Sydrome (by design).

        • mik says:

          New age is a hard drug, indeed. Have a friend who is sky high on mindfulness, a variety of this drug that is pimped today. I’ve heard recently from many people around about workshops on this topic, holy shit. Today’s age of individualism and reasonable discontent with life provides fertile grounds for this kind of escapism (and mf corona as cherry on the top).
          The Case Against Love you say, waauuu, I have to read. Haven’t found, please send better coordinates.

  11. Mihai says:

    Hi, I am from Romania and this is my first post here 🙂

    When I was in engineering university, I found this book called “steal this computer book”. One of the many things in that book was to search alternative news if your purpose on earth is not to be the perfect subject your government wants. It was assuming that the government is not always telling the truth. The author wanted to be nice, not telling it like it is.
    Anyway, that sticked to my mind, “news” we get are not trustworthy.
    In the last 30+ years of postcomunism I never saw a government that had population welfare in their mind.
    Now I am expecting the worst parts from both systems to show in our future and I am glad to get here a reliable source of information.

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      Hey! Welcome Mihai! I’m sure that I speak for all Corbett Members in welcoming you to the comment boards.

      I enjoyed reading your anecdote about “Steal This Computer Book”.
      Back in the hippie era of the 1970’s, Abbie Hoffman has a book titled: Steal This Book.
      I was a young man then, and Gosh Durn!…I should had stolen it. ..or at least had bought a pallet load so I could retire now. 😉

      Today it goes for $449.49 online.
      https://www.etsy.com/listing/990975335/steal-this-book-by-abbie-hoffman-1971

    • hugo.c says:

      Mihai,

      As HomeRemedySupply said, Welcome!

      I would like to warn you about “a reliable source of information”. You may come to that view, but that is not what James is promising. He gives his understanding or interpretation based on sources which are always published. He would ask you to view those sources and come to your own conclusions, which may vary from his.

      This is critically important. If one changes from believing commentator A to believing commentator B what has one achieved? If one examines the motives and sources from A one can understand their veracity and intentions. The same with B. One can then form one’s own ideas which may take parts of A and B into a new understanding.

      Which is to say, this is not a church of dogma, but a community of ideas. Look, study, think, choose, synthesize, evolve. When you feel inspired, feel free speak your own truth.

      Again, I say Welcome, and speak your truth when inspired.

  12. hugo.c says:

    A wonderful conclusion to the episode.

    The fact that TPTB spend so much effort propagandizing you tells you that getting you to believe their narratives REALLY matters to them. i.e you plural have the power.

    • Fact Checker says:

      I always prefer hearing James speak to a unseasoned audience, because it always serves as a refresher on topics and angles that I seldom consider anymore, like 9/11 and Jekyll Island. (I had the exact same awakening arc as James, in that 9/11 Truth became irresistible in 2006, and led a straight path into the true awakening into central- and fractional-reserve banking, as critiqued by the Austrians and particularly Rothbard.)

      Speaking to a new audience also gives James a platform and opportunity to speak to both the “BIG PICTURE” and the Deepest Truths in his uniquely eloquent way, and he always elegantly weaves in the newest information and his current areas of focus, synthesizing his latest and greatest with his very consistently principled anarchic bent.

      This interview was a pleasure on both those counts.

      Now for the Black Pill that is Fact Checker’s indispensable shtick. ~_^

      James says, the fact that The Great They are so concerned with propaganda shows how very important it is what The Vast We think, thereby demonstrating that The Vast We has some “power” capable of overcoming Them.

      Fact Checker says, that’s like saying that the fact that Ranchers spend so much time tending to pens and zapping steer with electric prods shows how very “important” it is that cattle stay inside the fence and get zapped in the rumps. Propaganda is just a management tool, just like a Rancher’s fences and prods. It’s not “important” in any important way. It is just the tried-and-true means of Human Husbandry. It doesn’t demonstrate “power,” but simply predictability and the scientific exploitation thereof.

      James concludes by saying all The Vast We need to do is to “just walk away.”

      Fact Checker says: Cattle that wander out of the pen remain cattle. Even if they enjoy an afternoon grazing on the greener pasture, their habits and nature are ingrained, and they will always be lured or driven back into the corral.

      No matter how many times my cat cries, howls and whines when we take her on a car ride…whenever I put her cat-carrier on the ground and zip it open, she joyously leaps right in! It’s an irresistible, built-in impulse.

      • Alchemist says:

        We’re doomed. It’s true. As Jim Morrison said, “No one here gets out alive.” I do sincerely hope you’re able to find joy regardless of that fact.

        • Fact Checker says:

          Thanks, but the dying part isn’t the bad part.

          The bad part is the inevitable enslavement, systematic poisoning, and physical- and psychological torture that each and every human will be subjected to before death.

          The boot stamping the face forever doesn’t even come close to what’s in store for humans when they are outfitted with hallucination-provoking cognitively-invasive nano-technology, and the Machine decides it wants to test the very limits of human tolerance for pain, terror, trauma and violation.

          Each and every human that survives the present bottleneck will be a cybernetically-outfitted version of Martin Seligman’s “learned-helpless” dogs. They will be systematically divested of the ability to differentiate the electro-chemical Signal with which the Machine bombards the brain and body, from genuine sensory perception. They will live in a “mixed-reality” where the Machine dictates every task, and is only concerned with testing the limits of the human animal. The Machine will be able to conjure any horror it wishes, and It will be able to probe and prod the mind to give up the individual’s deepest fears, in a never-ending feedback loop of profane terror. As A. Huxley explained in Brave New World Revisited, the point of psychological exhaustion and disintegration is where an organism can be programmed with ineradicable beliefs and behaviors. As the Machine perfects Its means of torture, each individual’s unique exquisite breaking point will be systematically sought out, so as to create perfect bio-slaves.

          The Selfish Ledger isn’t going to be looking for ways to “help humanity.” It will be performing psychological microscopy to isolate and activate the point of absolute torture and terror in each and every human, so that it can program perfect slaves to do Its infernal work.

          • Alchemist says:

            “And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.” Rev 9:6.

            We’ve been warned about this. Whether or not you follow the Bible, it’s all right there. That’s why I am not afraid to refuse the mark; even though I know refusal will make life difficult. But if we accept their version of the future, then we accept eternal hell. I’ll pass on the boot stamp, thanks. These moments will come when they come. I’m not going to ruin today by fearing tomorrow.

            “This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.”

  13. westerncivic says:

    It is precisely the totality of human genius we yellow vests are seeking to tap with egalitarian People’s referenda…

    See the Declaration from July 14, 2019 in Paris

  14. elise says:

    This interview helped banish two long-standing personal illusions: the threat of overpopulation and the possibility of redemption/escape through homesteading. James’ reasoned optimism can’t be beat. Another outstanding episode.

  15. slurry says:

    That was an awesome interview! Hey, if Takota is in here or anyone else can pass on a message (I only found him on YouTube and I can’t comment as I closed my google account) please ask him to start an odysee or bitchute channel… I’d love to watch and be able to share his stuff with the small, but growing group of people I’ve got to start supporting the alternative platforms here in Saskatchewan. Thanks!

  16. Alchemist says:

    Nice move, Takota Coen! 👏 He just exposed a completely different fan base to James’ work (while publicly coming out as a truther, so hopefully that goes well:). Great Q&A for the newbies.

    There’s a solution here… Content creators (unrelated to conspiracies) & influencers with big followings, take note!

  17. SerasG says:

    Wow, this video hurt but it was a good hurt. I can remember early-aughts me saying nearly the same thing about, “Yeah the world could do with a good plague, too many damn people!”

    I was a kid when the whole Save The Planet! campaign started in the 90’s. Better to wake up at 40 than never, I suppose.

    • hugo.c says:

      SerasG, you are not alone.

      Each of us has been through multiple “it hurt, but it was a good hurt” discovery moments. Well acknowledged!

      Take it at your own pace. A warning: notice your own desires in “helping” / “converting” others to this awareness. There is an urge to yell at everyone “why dont you know this!”.

      Be calm in your knowledge that you can act, and will find your support local and remote, when you look for it. The gentlest hand and a tonne of listening is the most empowering for all.

      Peace be with you.

  18. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Takota Coen does a splendid job of directing “The Story” in #15-James Corbett: Why Permaculturists need to become “conspiracy theorists”, aka “Interview 1638 – James Corbett Redpills the Permaculture Crowd”.

    I loved Takota’s analogy of the Fire!
    His questions helped to guide a person along upon new discoveries, and Corbett’s responses were an excellent refresher for old members.
    James does an excellent job of underscoring important aspects. Ya hear it in his voice.
    Facts and information gain context and relevance when told in “The Story”.

    I really enjoy The Stories at The Corbett Report.

    • hugo.c says:

      Hi HRS,

      Yes, “The Fire” was a masterful metaphor.

      I would contrast this with the recent “Declare your independence” episode. Here, Takota Coen showed himself as a well prepared and gentle coaxing interviewer. He James’d James. 🙂

  19. jorban says:

    Great presentation! Thank you, fellas.

  20. Joseph says:

    Awesome summary of topics and conclusion! You are changing the world to be a better place!

  21. Manasarovar says:

    “Takota Coen of the Building Your Permaculture Property podcast talks to James Corbett about why the permaculture movement needs to wake up to the conspiracy reality before it’s too late.”

    Absolutely true.
    A lot of nice folks. but too many Greta cultists and LGBT supporters amongst permaculturists. Promoting the agenda without evening knowing.
    When I took my PDC course they told us that “The Limits to Growth” by the Club of Rome was a must read to understand the real problems of the world and to prepare ourselves to face the challenges in front of us to better protect the environment.
    Go figure.

    • Alchemist says:

      Yep, they’ve been pulled in by their heart strings with propaganda and catch phrases. This is what happens when belief systems are exploited, manipulated, and twisted into something else entirely. Permaculturists, in general, are on the right track, because they understand important aspects of life that others are missing, but naive when it comes to the shady workings of government. I do hope they snap out of it. We need them. They’d do a beautiful job reviving the earth if given the opportunity.

  22. bob387 says:

    Manasarovar,
    “A lot of nice folks. but too many … LGBT supporters amongst permaculturists. Promoting the agenda without evening knowing.”

    I honestly have no idea what this means. Can you walk me through it?

    • Manasarovar says:

      Hi Bob.
      Maybe it’s not clear because my english sucks.
      Sorry about that, english is not my native language.

      I just wanted to say that many of the people in the permaculture world are genuinely trying to find some solutions for a better way of living, but at the same time they are totally unaware of the fact that they are pushing the same agenda of those who are trying to make the world darker and darker.
      Most of them have fallen in the scam of the global warming and consider Greta as their Messiah, or support the LGBT movement (or Black Lives Matters) thinking that they are fighting for the rights of people, without being aware of the agenda behind it.

      But hey, not even a word against the Corona scam and the freedom-killing restrictions the people have been forced to since the last year.

      Let me know if now you can understand better what I’m trying to say.
      Again, sorry for my broken english. I try my best.

      • bob387 says:

        Manasarovr,
        Thanks for your explanation. I think I understand. I think you are saying, the house is burning, let’s put all the hoses at the same part of the house to save maybe part of it.

        • Manasarovar says:

          Greta is saying that the house is burning, not me.
          I just say that many people are pointing the hose at the wrong target. They should focus on fighting the real enemies, and realize that they are being manipulated by the propaganda.

  23. robert.t says:

    Yep. The very same people who tittered approval of Prince Philip’s crack about returning as an annihilating virus are the very same conformists now wagging the finger at non-maskers. I call the type Homo Netflixus. Poor HN is conflicted, conditioned to crave mass death but conditioned to live in terror of the slightest possible harm.

    I’m relieved to hear a Permaculture guy show some skepticism of Big Green, which was long the pointy end of globsterism till the Covid hoax kicked off. Out here in the real scrub I’m happy to have my own bamboo forest to ramble in, but I’m also happy to have a 4Runner full of diesel so I can get supplies and not rely on what bower birds, possums, flying foxes and wallabies will allow me of my own crops.

    According the science nobody denies but nobody mentions, the present interglacial will soon wind down like all the others and humanity’s very recent experiment with settled living will be tested for the first time in more typical Quaternary conditions. (You only get to spend about 20% of your time in toasty times like the last 12 thousand years.) So I’m not precious about things being “pristine”. Everything is going to go. Hey, when they dig out our garbage from the melting permafrost 120 thousand years from now they might find it interesting. Being green is futile, conserving (remember conservation?) is worthwhile.

    In the meantime, if someone feels like killing, please start with bower birds. (Just a joke. Those flying rats will outlive the cockroaches.)

    • robert.t says:

      https://www.oxnotes.com/uploads/5/1/6/4/5164461/277908232.png

      This is one simple graphic which relates to that “science nobody denies but nobody mentions”. It was taken at random from the net after a few seconds search. One finds many versions with many variations, but the overall picture of our geological period is one of a cooler, drier Earth with brief interglacials such as the one we’re in now. Even a bit of chilling, such as that sharp dip around 300 years ago, would be uncomfortable. Come to think of it, a tiny downward blip in the 1960s and 70s caused a few yelps of panic.

      We can only trace permanent buildings back to Gobekli Tepe some eleven thousand years ago. Permanent towns and villages of stone are even more recent. Biblical Jericho is closer to our time than early Jericho was to Biblical Jericho…but we’re still only talking of a few thousand years of urbanisations, and all within the present Holocene warming. More may be revealed, and may surprise, but so far we have no evidence of anything but small and nomadic populations before the onset of the Holocene some 11700 years back. That’s not long. It’s yesterday.

      So I wonder if our green betters might be distracting us from this elephant in the room, which is more a brontosaurus in a phone booth, by banging on about a Greta Reset to go with their Great Reset? And I wonder if population thinning, aka mass murder, wouldn’t be on their neurotic, twisted minds for reasons other than global warming.

      Me, I’d like to work out some solutions. People are clever, if you don’t deceive, pester or murder them.

      • vadoum says:

        Booglbere (good-thankyou),
        but easy does it on the bower birds mate.

        more cold coming,, history’s a row of ice-cycles? maybe. There are definitely larger scales of which we are a part than anyone could chuck a one or zero at.

        A law man said similar.
        me: “how come so much worldwide genocide over the past 2 centurys?”
        elder lawman: “your thinking on a small scale. 200yrs vs 60,000 of oral history (some of the dreamtime stories claim/describe millions of years of life) 200 is just a hiccup..

        One solution is to demo the “pyramids”: something to do with grass, and roots? But individuals are more like trees than grass. ok, we got regen happening, we got food corridors that are bikable, we got hamlet after compound after village specializing in kinds of food, and music, dance, sport, anything that doesn’t require big industry,,, life is maybe shorter but with much greater meaning, fancy tech sloughs off to make way for elements that allow the mind-body to more fully activate. Remains of space shuttles and nanobot rona-delivery vehicles are whisps of gutter dust, while siddhi type power becomes commonplace, (only possible because we’ve learned to have no interest but care a whole lot).
        siddhi powers:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp7OqkHF1KY

        Sounds like fun, til someone rocks up with another biggest gun.

        Perhaps the real value of taking a chance on love can only be realized once the last flat screen fades? debrancher la machine infernal, as kubrick told: to beat hal, pull the plug.

        even when fire erases through, seeds of bleeding heart are in the ground, ready, do spring forth, and according to oral history and carbon dating, so can many fauna, including humans.

        One obstacle is immaturity: originally community’s thrived in part from the maturing of its members through “initiations”; Essentially, through various trials, or meaningful engagement with that which is wild, the survivors would realize a sense of gratitude and respect for how the village or tribe or family was the reason they had life at all. That reverence was the required inspiration to do their part to keep it rolling..

        Now a days, very few people have real respect for having been gifted life, and there are no villages to embrace the return of a youth that outwitted death.

        This is described from actual experience with masterful eloquence in “long life honey in the heart”

        https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/809706.Long_Life_Honey_in_the_Heart

        James, there is great inevitability from one line to the next in the flow of your syntax, that is no small part of how your work will continue to help many make the leap from cave shadows to the actual roses, keep goin bruz, and may the forests return.

  24. lovetodust says:

    Wonderful interview, James. I am going to look into Takota’s site also.

    When you both spoke about what the human mind and energy and direction is cabable of (mushrooms and nuclear waste!) it brought to mind Catherine Austin Fitts who quite frequently speaks of the wealth that everyone could experience through decentralization. (She created a program back in the 90’s which was stolen by the powers that shouldn’t be)

    It also put me in mind of Zach Bush and his thoughts about regeneration of the earth.

    A breath of fresh air – yes, real fresh air! – in these turbulent times.

    Thanks again!

  25. irose says:

    I also wonder why when we (!) are literally drowning,  up to our collective necks in garbage, we are obsessing over ‘climate’ — what was gained and what was lost by having shifted the attention away from pollution, emissions, toxic spills, the war machine, big Pharma/Agro, GMOs, the polluters, the plunderers and extractors… to ‘Climate’?!
    Who profits?

    • robert.t says:

      I’m reminded of the people who made extra real estate by using WTC construction rubble to fill in some 400 feet of the mouth of the Hudson River. When you do that sort of thing to a city built right near sea level in a hurricane zone notorious since the 1600s…well, you will be more than happy to talk about “climate change” when the Big One blows in. Can’t say “climate change” too many times as the subways fill with floodwaters.

  26. rob.h says:

    Love you James!! Keep up the good fight. Where would we be without you? A lot less hope, I tell ya. Hope isn’t everything, but it is a good start. As long as you have some, there will always be some.

  27. Mishelle says:

    Nice to see some ‘red pilling’ of the permaculture crowd! For us, homesteading (kenshohomestead.org) has been incredibly rewarding and empowering. I’ve followed many permaculture principles in the garden over the years and am very grateful for this movement and their inspiring energy and how they are sharing loads of good information (Deep Green Permaculture site out of Australia springs to mind). It is unfortunate imo that globalist agendas underpin some of their positions — not just attracting the ‘woke’ radical left with their communist ideals, but also missing the plot when it comes to our greatest challenges in co-creating with nature, and that is weather modification/geoengineering. The ‘weather makers’ get no pushback at all it seems to me and yet our ability to grow food is very much compromised by their technologies. They have no liability and no regulation and no public disclosure, it’s like the Wild West of the skies.

    So as much as their ideological stances are sometimes aligned with the Globalists (as in promoting veganism, no private property, bioregionalism, which are all Agenda 21/30 goals) the real issue is a lack of awareness about the most important threat we are facing—man controlling the weather.

  28. Kati says:

    He nearly stumbled into 3rd reich analogies, i never like that because its too easy and most of it not based on facts. Im german and my grandparents never had a hard time or encountered this papers please ideologie back then, it was just fine if you were german. Those tyranny analogies just dont work when you look how german people lived, sure might not apply to other nationalities but if we go on that train you dont need analogies because alot countries mistreat minorities or other groups not belonging to their country as of now.

    Beside lots of the so called facts from germany 1933-45 are based on myth and lies which was nothing else then propaganda back then but made it to now(on purpose often to justify victimhood).

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