Interview 1351 – Derrick Broze on Crypto-Anarchy and Holistic Self-Assessment

03/12/201831 Comments

Today James welcomes back Derrick Broze of TheConsciousResistance.com for a wide-ranging conversation on the pros and cons of cryptocurrency and its potential to fund independent journalism. We also go in-depth into Derrick’s new (free) Holistic Self-Assessment and the importance of better understanding and improving ourselves before we change the world.

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  1. whothehellareyouanyway ( User Karma: 1 ) says:

    On a side note, crypto-currency possesses all the attributes of a pyramid scheme for those who intend a return on their investment. Once the bottom falls out, the top comes crashing down.Yay capitalism! Nothing new really. Just funneling fiat money from one source into another with out the possibility of the Fed’s involvement, although in the game none the less.

  2. whothehellareyouanyway ( User Karma: 1 ) says:

    In regards to the inevitable flock towards “speculation”; “wash, rinse, repeat” as opportunity arises. Observations from a historical perspective. There is a good chance crypto/digital currency will reveal it’s true intentions post spin cycle. I, for one but probably not the only, am quite curious to see how crypto/digital currency maintains it’s (better nature) as the prevailing force.

  3. whothehellareyouanyway ( User Karma: 1 ) says:

    Thank you for this video discussion between the two of you. It helped to understand the practical application for digital/crypto currency, however I must agree that the process for implementing this method of currency transaction can be a bit off-putting during the process of establishing an “account”, somewhat confusing. And a personal concern of mine would be that should something go wrong, in an unmentionable number of ways, there would seem to be no support/accountability, in reversing a payment transaction gone wrong. Or in the event of theft, for example.
    How well is a ‘wallet’ really protected?

    1. HomeRemedySupply ( User Karma: 34 ) says:

      Back in late February 2017, James Corbett gave away free to any Corbetteer requesting it, 0.01 Bitcoin (which at the moment I am now typing is worth around $81.)
      https://coinmarketcap.com/
      At the time of the give-away, it was worth close to $10 or $11.
      The give-away occurred during this episode Who Coined the Term “Useless Eaters”? – Questions For Corbett https://www.corbettreport.com/who-coined-the-term-useless-eaters-questions-for-corbett-034/
      If you read the comment section, a lot of folks participated in that opportunity.

      Here is the YouTube video queued to where James talks about Bitcoin. Around the 21 minute mark is the “give-away”.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NuLWCHvkc8&feature=youtu.be&t=16m32s

      Like Corbett repeatedly points out, just start by trying a small amount of cryptocurrency. Something that you can afford to lose.
      I keep my wallet at my exchange(s). However, my ex-wife who is almost 70, bought a nano flash drive wallet, but she put a lot of dough into crypto. I am poor, plus I am a risk taker, but I don’t have much to lose with my crypto.

      The original intent of Bitcoin and many cryptocurrencies was to have a decentralized method of exchange by using a token. With all the hype last December in the rapid rise in value of Bitcoin, it’s original purpose as an “exchange medium” got polluted by speculation.
      Some companies take Bitcoin (e.g. Overstock.com ). When many companies start taking “decentralized” crypto, then we will probably see a revival of the original purpose.

      Unfortunately, the government is often trying to regulate or monitor some of these “exchanges”, such as Coinbase. The IRS is now watching for speculators on Coinbase. And also, unfortunately, corporations are trying to hijack the decentralized token game.

  4. Octium ( User Karma: 6 ) says:

    I do think as part of the dumbing down process people have been conditioned into thinking in terms of ORs rather that ANDs.

    In other words, a truth has to be either a OR b, but never a AND b!

    Once you get people to think like that it is really easy to fool them. You only need to convince them that something is “a” and they will never even think about the “b” case.

    I guess this applies to crypto too.

    1. john.o ( User Karma: 1 ) says:

      This is all true and not true. Most of us have long known that knives and guns, and for that matter knitting needles and nuclear energy, can be used to help us, threaten us or kill us. What I note is that all these are still used for those purposes, but OVER TIME, their power to threaten tyranny is either mostly displaced and rendered ineffective against it (the knife, and now the personal gun too, for example) by the power of the tyrant.

      All of them (except maybe knitting needles, and I am not ready to declare even those 100% benign) are used every day to enforce tyranny.

      I certainly encourage everyone to use whatever weapon gains advantage at the moment, but to think that crypto is going to do anything other than provide another “New World” of freedom, which rapidly then grows into just another colony in the Empire, seems naive to me.

      “Crypto” so far is always “digital,” and electronic, and depends on the powers of the digital and energy tyrants everywhere, not to mention the tyrannies of “The Market” itself, which seem to be ignored here in some kind of fervor, but to that extent, so is history.

      Good luck, though. I invest only in human flesh and blood, and since slaves and the markets (same thing so far in history) are prohibitively expensive these days, that means mostly my own.

      Unfortunately, in the world of “subjective value” there is wide variance between the market value of my flesh and blood and its value to me.

      Neither crypto nor wishful thinking will change that.

    2. manbearpig ( User Karma: 21 ) says:

      Yes. A very insightful Italian friend explained that to me once when I wasn’t listening carefully enough. He said this “or” state of mind instead of “and” was institutionalized some time after parminedes and before or by plato. Can’t quite remember…he said this was the moment when man set out on the path of his destruction.

  5. VoltaicDude ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Broze and Corbett – always good!

    Nice that you bring emphasis to the complex reality of alt-currencies and Bitcoin-hype as described in a recent Corbett video Derrick:
    1) Yes, Blockchain is truly revolutionary
    2) Yes, Blockchain is Tulip-mania 2.0
    3) Yes, crypto-currency is a nail in the coffin of bankster tyrants
    4) Yes, digital currency is a tool of totalitarian tyrants

    All these is true at the same time, but as James says: “The conversation is stuck on stupid” so when simplistic narratives reign, it’s important to deconstruct those lies.

    You guys are trailblazing for the future.

    James, your Uber analogy is also important:
    ”Well, ‘dear mayor, I’d like to propose [!]’…no, you just do it…and people use it…and then they have to go and start banning it…and it’s unbannable because people are using it too much.

    It’s a good and valid example.

    I guess it’s the other side of the kind of example made of Ross Ulbricht (Silk Road), who competed with bigger and badder monopolists. But he also made a huge mark and in that way has made an important difference in raising consciousness.

    As just another nameless number (as Dr. Zhivago’s brother might describe me), it is disconcerting that the vast majority of individuals that rise up from the sheeple masses (the ranks from which most of us originate) will be picked off without note. Unfortunately we end up being the examples that the average sheeple takes to heart. I can’t help but regret that.

    More power to you two. I hope lots of people tune into your new book Derrick and find it helpful.

    Regarding persona, I really like this:
    Alan Watts – Energy From The Universe
    Danny Lee
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR0l1hCn05M

      1. john.o ( User Karma: 1 ) says:

        VD, I thought you would never ask.

        First, thanks for your open flowing delightful prose and willingness to filet it all out. Indeed I believe we might share some related lineages.

        As it happens, circumstances take me to that Tourist Monument to Bygone Days, the Haight Ashbury, frequently. The first time I ever went there I bused in for the April 15 March Against the War in 1967 and spent the night in the basement of grace Cathedral and trekked out to the Haight with libertarians (not many then, but I know for a fact they were there) beatniks, anarchists, anarcho-syndicalists, Communists, the Trotskyite Socialist Workers Party, some bizarre Maoist group I can’t recall, and hippies, Beatles fans, teenyboppers, Christians, neo-Buddhists and Hindus, New Agers, Psychedelicists, FBI and other spook infiltrators, random psychotics, sociopaths and creeps, and a lot of people who just didn’t want themselves or their loved ones to have to go kill and die for a whole lot less than zero.

        I took home a shopping bag full of pamphlets and posters and flyers and monographs. Muscle-bound workers with hammers pounding on steel adorned the great clarity of the Anarcho-Syndicalist Party’s tracts. Nice little charts showed exactly how everything would work. (“Anarcho-syndicalism” is Chomsky’s official allegiance to this day, if I am not mistaken.) I do not recall the “anarchist” tracts’ graphics, I do recall learning about Bakunin and Kropotkin and was surprised to learn Tolstoy was linked, etc. etc…and I do recall reading in them, and in some of my followup reading some of the arguments I read here. I did not get anything close to the Austrian School economics there. For that I had a very good libertarian teacher, who argued along lines very similar to those of the Mises Institute.

        These same debates have been going on for some time. If that isn’t repeating history, I don’t know what is.

          1. john.o ( User Karma: 1 ) says:

            Thanks, HRS! But I need my blood ozoned and my brain drained of heavy metals. I can’t trust memory anymore.

            It was actually 1966.

            Those fucking free radicals!

          1. VoltaicDude ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

            john.o

            Not too long ago I had one of the best (and shortest) exchanges with an unlikely old friend whom I would describe as an obsessively religious person – our long friendship I think being proof of both our good intentions.

            Something political came up in passing in our conversation (as it almost always does, although virtually never from me initiating, at least not anymore for a long time now) and he said, “It doesn’t matter the system, it’s always the people. Any system could work if people weren’t corrupt and wouldn’t corrupt it.”

            Not sure, but that seems almost undeniably, directly, observably true.

      2. VoltaicDude ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

        Timely john.o! – just got off the lobotomy-tube which was running that story.

        But what exactly is your point? I don’t mean to be rude, butt, wtf are you doing here (ba-rump-pump)!

        Butt seriously, we might actually have similar political origins, you and I (two peas in a pod as it were), but I’m here because I found holes in those original dogmas.

        I have also, I think wisely, not thrown the baby out with the bathwater, but the bathwater was definitely funky (and not that I’m categorically opposed to funky either – bad funky/good funky).

        As somebody weary of statist solutions that almost invariably become corrupted, I think real individuals do have legitimate claims to try and break free from the Kafkaesque bureaucracy actually designed to oppress us in the name of keeping us safe.

        As somebody weary of “new orders” that, I think, sometimes overstep their advisable reach, at least theoretically, and often indulge in the equivalent of “externalization” with an oversimplification of how things might actually work, and with a lacking sensibility about the old Santayana dictum on repeating history, I think ignoring the realpolitik of any situation is naïve.

        Maybe this last bit on repeating history might seem like a non-sequitor, but I mean that there are certain types of governing patterns that we are not always conscious of, and if we ignore those realities we will fall prey to them repeatedly even as we scramble to escape their hold over us.

        The French sociologist Pierre Bourdieu is good on this – the inadvertent reproduction of deep culture.

        Hippy-to-Wall-Street-broker may be a useful stereotype to evoke here.

        But also, Corbett’s been kicking around here for a while. Maybe I intermittently miss this point too, but in balance to the quote I included in my comment above, Corbett has also often alluded to the “baby,” so there is definitely common ground on this, as well as still a lot to sort out.

        I guess that’s the fun of being here.

        Personally, I wouldn’t discount the Uber-crash example you provide – it’s relevant.

        It’s also a complex example in that it mixes at least two pertinent subjects:
        – Uber (as an open market issue)
        – And, smart cars (as a Big Brother issue)

        1. john.o ( User Karma: 1 ) says:

          (cont.) I see almost all these movements as based on philosophies that find a devil, and then drive him out with a pitchfork. Sometimes the devil is “private property” and “capitalism” or “corporations,” sometimes it is “government” and “collectivism” and “socialism.”

          I see such characterizations as confused and simplistic for all kinds of reasons. Partly, as Corbett makes clear in almost every report, separating government from business (and wealthy private property owners) is not easy. So is separating government from family. That really has only been tried here and there for a a few hundred years, kind of, and so far it seems to revert.

          Things can be both-and, not just either-or, as James Corbett reminds us. Here is where I think he could take some of his own advice. In fact, if I am correct, all these things go together as part of human nature. “Collectivism” is rooted in the reality of human biology and family structures. We are all born individuals and also members of some kind of family social unit. Trying to get rid of all collectivist or individualist tendencies is like trying to get rid of greed or love in a society, it’s been tried and they always come back. The devil always returns.

          What is “the answer?” I don’t claim to know. Thinking in terms of balancing collective needs (like not getting run over by a robot test) against individual initiative and rethinking private property might be good places to start. Picking a devil, “government,” lumping in every local Sheriff and mayor with Clinton and Trump, trying to save the world from one half of human nature, and ending up with no government but “voluntary slave contracts” for miners, and “privately owned rivers,” as suggested by James’ beloved Mises Insitute, is not.

          Hippy to Wall Street Broker or Fascist Politician was common. Anarchist to currency trader and Private Property war Lord seems equally likely in my book.

    1. wingsuitfreak ( User Karma: 95 ) says:

      Who cares if we are picked off and never remembered? Live free as you want and who cares about the rest. JimBob from fluorida

      1. VoltaicDude ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

        Firstly dude, let me say: respect and admiration to you! – I mean, that’s if “wingsuit” actually means anything – and that doesn’t have to mean you’re literally an actual platform jumper, as it’s the spirit that counts!

        But dude, you missed my whole point – like totally off target – ouch!

        I didn’t mean to indulge in self-hero worship – although true self-love (which transcends the need for adolescent hero-worshipping of any sort) is obviously one of the most important things in life.

        The free life was my go to mantra as a youngster. I’m actually one of those die-hard admirers of the hippy generation, and looked back onto that when I was growing up as a very good role model, and something that helped keep me from becoming a good little Nazi.

        Always being a pretty critical thinker too (there is no oxymoronic confusion here, even Richard Feynman was a beat/hippy of sorts), I also never lost track that a lot of the “scene” was an exercise in posing, bogus and worst of all, infiltrated.

        AND SO THAT’S THE POINT – TAAA RAAA!

        When people, anybody, gets picked off, that’s COINTELPRO/organized crime, dude.

        It’s best to be awake to that – then you’ll recognize it when you run into it.

        Too often we shun and dismiss (as weird or suspicious) people in the throes of those crimes (perhaps it’s an overriding and subconscious instinct as it happens at surprising social junctions).

        We miss the opportunity (even if we can’t save them, I would have to say sadly), to hear about what they have seen/know.

        They often have quite a lot of intelligence about infiltrators for instance – like even names of officials and infiltrators into good organizations, for instance 911 Truth orgs, and shit like that.

        They are often targeted in ways that it would be good to have on record.

        A big area here is medical services – a really nice way to hit somebody these days (right now I might actually just be counting my days, a hole I might not be able to climb out of).

        That’s what I was talking about, dude. Surely you’re not vapidly OK with that, right? (I didn’t mean to call you Shirley.) Surely you realize those crimes ought to be on record, right?

        Well, mostly they aren’t – and that’s domestic, forget foreign (dime a dozen – not that it’s not important to those individuals on record too).

        1. wingsuitfreak ( User Karma: 95 ) says:

          No problem. Not sure if I got the whole gist of your comment, but I do (or did, I’ve been out of the sport for a bit, but am coming back soon) fly a wingsuit.
          As far as people getting killed for knowing too much, that’s just life. At least as far as I’m concerned. People focus too much on death. What does it matter? You WILL die. The important question to ask is Will you ever actually live? At least to me, it is.
          Personally, I don’t worry about dying. Not just because I’ll be turning 58 this June either. How the heck did I make it this long? I’m not smart enough to think about it at the same time as I’m living. I always did suck at that multi-tasking thing. In fact, if all goes even close to plan, I will be placing myself in just such a position that you talk of fairly soon. I’m looking at next month, to be exact. Early May at the latest. Not for any nefarious secrets (which I don’t have anyway), but as part of a business plan. Yeah, I ain’t normal. Take care, JimBob

          1. VoltaicDude ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

            Ah, but you have missed the point again wingsuitfreak.

            Perhaps it’s hard to follow why the conversation is not necessarily about you or me specifically, but that’s actually why it’s worthwhile having this conversation in a public forum like this.

            It’s certainly not about dying per se, although I suppose worrying about that over everything else is certainly not living free.

            There are of course some people stuck in very hostile and psychologically damaging situations who vacillate between being petrified of death (and so acquiesce to certain types of harsh and demeaning confinement) and being reckless with their own lives; but again, that’s not part of the original point.

            The original point was not about dying, it was about murder.

            What are your feelings about that?

            1. wingsuitfreak ( User Karma: 95 ) says:

              I was responding to that scenario. How is death by murder any different from any other way we die? And as I wrote above, I am putting myself in just such a position shortly. If we spend our time worrying about what might happen, we will never get anywhere.

              By the way, loved the story on your old acquaintance speaking of corruption corrupting any system. I recently came to the same conclusion after reading “Atlas Shrugged” (one of those books I never got around to reading; though I made up for it by reading Anthem and Fountainhead immediately afterwards). One of the few (and minor) disagreements I had with her ending was they were forming a new republic. It seemed to me that going back to what had already failed wasn’t very rational. I then started thinking along the lines of intent, and I only came down more firmly on the side of being my own master.
              Sorry it took so long for me to respond, my internet has been down for a few days. Cheers, Jim from fluorida

  6. Octium ( User Karma: 6 ) says:

    So True.

    Even the word “Fluoride” is deceptive when used the way it is. Fluoride being an ion, means that it is going to form compounds with other elements to create a whole different range of completely different chemicals all labeled as “Fluoride” each one having different effects.

  7. HomeRemedySupply ( User Karma: 34 ) says:

    Fluoride’s Toxicity

    I would like to mention that many people, including Fluoride Activists, often underestimate the potential toxicity of Fluoride. I, too, once downplayed its potential toxicity.
    However, the more one studies the issue and the research, the more a person understands how insidious this toxic substance is. It can be a slow poison which wrecks the body’s health system in any number of ways.

    I encourage people to visit F.A.N.
    Fluoride Action Network also known as FluorideAlert.Org
    http://fluoridealert.org/
    There is a plethora of information on that website including some wonderful videos.

    Type “Fluoride” into The Corbett Report‘s “Search Bar” and one will see many past episodes where Fluoride is discussed.

  8. astraeaisabella ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    YES! Let’s USE cryptos, and while I am about it I want to mention my favorite at present FLASH Is designed for the enormous numbers of people such as the Indians and Africans who have no banking facilities or any hope of having a bank. It is super fast and super to use, costing only a penny to transit funds! It also seems to be insome wasy like Monero – so I suppose that means it is very private.

    Once Indians and Africans start to get into cryptos this is likely to be a favorite along with Ethereum I guess?

    Thank you both for this important discussion; posted far and wide and again and again.

    I just love you James Corbett.

  9. HomeRemedySupply ( User Karma: 34 ) says:

    We can shape the conversation.

    …We help to shape the course of these types of events. If your reaction to a story like this is to is just to shrug and go “Oh, the courts are rigged and nothing is going to happen.” Then, yea, nothing will happen.
    But if people bring attention to this. And make this an issue. And put this in front of people’s face.
    And make this the BIG ISSUE EVERYONE NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME instead of school shootings or whatever…
    …We can shape the conversation.
    – James Corbett

  10. weilunion ( User Karma: 1 ) says:

    Readers and guest might wish to look at Ecuador, the first country in the world to actually adopt digital currency, bitcoin excluded.

    The idea was to have the Central Bank of Ecuador run the scheme, but the Consulta or referendum handed the whole toy to the private banks.

    https://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12340

    Many believe Ecuador will be the first country to phase out dollars (with the help of the US, for Ecuador is dollarized), just like Modi is trying to do with India’s money, in favor of digital currency.

    We know that if this happens, we will be devaluated at least 30% as the vehicle will be one to steal

    1. HomeRemedySupply ( User Karma: 34 ) says:

      At this point, as far as I can tell: Hashgraph sucks.
      Other Corbett members had warned me.
      I was hoping that the Hashgraph guys might release something “open source” and “decentralized”.

      Is this like a new era “Microsoft” corporation?

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