Interview 1320 – Marwa Osman Reports on the Saudi Purge

11/09/201737 Comments

The Lebanese Prime Minister has “resigned” on Saudi tv. Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman has rounded up a dozen other princes in the House of Saud in a startling move that threatens to upset the kingdom. Reports that King Salman will step aside for the crown prince abound. What on earth is happening? Joining us to help sort through the rubble of this incredible week is Marwa Osman, a political analyst and commentator in Beirut.

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  1. Pablo de Boer says:

    Shakeup In Saudi Arabia, Hariri Resignation, And Threats Of War Spell Possible Chaos In Middle East
    https://www.activistpost.com/2017/11/shakeup-in-saudi-arabia-hariri-resignation-and-threats-of-war-spell-possible-chaos-in-middle-east.html

  2. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Oh! I am so glad that James interviewed Marwa Osman!!
    Extremely important information from someone who is familiar with the situation.

    I feel like this Saudi purge could be a precursor for what Corbett talks about in Episode 320 – Echoes of WWI: China, the US, and the Next “Great” War https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-320-echoes-of-wwi-china-the-us-and-the-next-great-war/

    I have been making comments about Saudi Arabia on that thread, the last comment coincided with the upload of this “Interview 1320 – Marwa Osman Reports on the Saudi Purge”.
    https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-320-echoes-of-wwi-china-the-us-and-the-next-great-war/#comment-45241

  3. HomeRemedySupply says:

    BACKGROUND on Saudi Arabia Royals
    http://911blogger.com/news/2016-05-31/game-thrones-recent-saudi-coup

    In the early 20th century, Ibn Saud, the founder of Saudi Arabia, took wives from the many tribal factions and also formed an alliance with the Islamic ultra-conservative Sunni sect known as Wahhabism. This provided Ibn Saud with a more unified, stable control of the region. He fathered many children, including 45 sons, some of whom later took the throne as part of the Royal Family’s “House of Saud”.
    Here is the rub. Many of the high ranking government positions are given to members of the Royal Family. There are a lot of “power plays” in vying for these positions, because holding them helps to ensure power for a particular faction of the family tree. Another internal Saudi contender of the power struggle is the Wahhabism religious faction.
    (Note: The word “clan”, such as the “Sudairi clan”, is often used. “Clan” refers to each of the 22 or 24 wives of the founder of Saudi Arabia, Ibn Saud. Ibn Saud died in 1953. The Kings of Saudi Arabia have been a son from one of the different wives or “clans” of Ibn Saud.)
    History of Ibn Saud and Wahhabism influence (5 minutes)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0kFmlI8hg

  4. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Unpaid debts in Saudi Arabia.
    About 18 months ago, I remember running across some reports of people who were working in Saudi Arabia. One unemployed engineer could not exit the country because he owed money, but he needed a job in another country to pay the debt.
    “Can I get a Final Exit if I have unpaid loan / credit card debt?”
    http://lifeinsaudiarabia.net/blog/2015/08/12/can-i-get-final-exit-if-i-have-unpaid/
    “How to exit Saudi Arabia.”
    http://lifeinsaudiarabia.net/blog/2014/04/06/procedure-of-final-exit-from-saudi/

  5. VoiceOfArabi says:

    Well done Marwa… You make Arabs proud…

  6. bbg says:

    To me this is a modern day example of applying the “law of fratricide” of the Old Ottoman days. They are literally clearing away competition, purging.

    “Ottoman succession had been governed by the “law of fratricide” drawn up by Mehmed II in the middle of the 15th century. Under the terms of this remarkable piece of legislation, whichever member of the ruling dynasty succeeded in seizing the throne on the death of the old sultan was not merely permitted, but enjoined, to murder all his brothers (together with any inconvenient uncles and cousins) in order to reduce the risk of subsequent rebellion and civil war. Although it was not invariably applied, Mehmed’s law resulted in the deaths of at least 80 members of the House of Osman over a period of 150 years. These victims included all 19 siblings of Sultan Mehmed III—some of whom were still infants at the breast, but all of whom were strangled with silk handkerchiefs immediately after their brother’s accession in 1595.”

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-ottoman-empires-life-or-death-race-164064882/

    • herrqlys says:

      No, I disagree. I think that as a subjugated part of the Ottoman Empire, and a remote one at that, there would be no love for Osman traditions, no matter how quaint.

      There never were any vilayets (formal Ottoman adminstrative regions) in the Arabian subcontinent. Ottoman rule did eventually extend well into Arabia, with a fairly long, broad strip of territory along the Red Sea from Aqaba and almost to Aden, with a ahort, narrow strip almost down to Qatar on the Persian Gulf coast. There was a loose suzereignity, only, over the interior.

      Ottoman authority was maintained by controlling Arabia through a quilt of tribal rulers, effectively enforced by imperial army garrisons in key centres. That yoke was occasionally contested. The tenuous Ottoman rule left little to survive into modern times, after the end of the first world war, when the Ottoman empire was broken up and boundaries redrawn at Versailles in 1919. Native tribal laws and customs of succession would continue to prevail.

  7. UKJC says:

    Subtitled interview from Syriana Analysis covering recent events here https://youtu.be/NNg5nLMG6FM -haven’t listened to (read) the whole but interesting so far.

  8. == James Corbett vs William Ramsey ==

    What’s the deal with this? If I recall correctly, it’s briefly mentioned early in this interview then not mentioned again. I added a question in the comments and now think it’s time to bring it here for answers and/or a resolution.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFrRiMTCZyA&lc=z23zj3dqtue4xzgyx04t1aokglthinlkgcrfochcja22bk0h00410.1510272649824417

    • Corbett says:

      I don’t know who William Ramsey is and if I’ve had any contact with him whatsoever I certainly don’t remember it.

      • Interesting. I was also surprised to hear about this. A nothing burger? Seems stupid to mention it (allegedly Corbett was annoyed that William Ramsey re-published Corbett’s work on the death of David Rockefeller without attribution or something to that effect, listen to the interview above). William Ramsey has done very good work (so far as I know).

        On our woke/truther/non-partisan wavelength without going woo as many do, other folks in the William Ramsey and (very recommended) American Freedom Radio circles include Ed Opperman, Pearse Redmond (Porkin’s Policy), Chuck Ochelli, Jack Blood, Rachel L. McIntosh, and John Barbour. Also, Tom Secker, Tim Kelly, and Joseph Atwill may also be in wider overlapping related circles, among countless others.

        Each of these folks has their own personality, character, and flaws (like all of us) but I’ve found them to be extremely solid, despite a very few perspectives and/or blind spots I may not agree with. If anyone has other stories to challenge, deny, or support my views I’d be grateful to hear them. I think these folks do great work. (Two of them were assholes to me, but they still do great work.)

        I don’t mean to cause shit, rather to find clarity and resolution – especially before it grows legs. (ie. I don’t know who psyop.news is on YouTube.)

  9. == BitChute Will Not Save You (Yet?) ==

    I have a big bone to pick with anyone pushing BitChute (and other alternative site solutions, like Steemit, GAB, etc).

    I don’t like the BitChute interface much nor the Disqus forum that has utterly shitty search capabilities – but that’s not my biggest beef. I download everything from YouTube well before I watch and archive it. Maybe I’m building an archive for the landfill or some greater purpose, but that’s moot. I have to use a download addon. So too with BitChute.

    BitChute’s great claim to fame is that it is decentralized. BULLSHIT! Not only is the site centralized, the torrent magnets don’t fully add the torrent info, seed the torrent, much less download the torrent and there is no simplistic download button. Popular videos are the only working exceptions to this giant flaw/misrepresentation. This could be very easily fixed.

    I could also bitch about BitChute’s alpha-numeric nomenclature naming of the torrented video, without even a title, date, author, much less a “BitChute” prefix, but that’s a stupid absent file-naming feature I can tediously manually deal with – if I even had any BitChute torrents that actually fricken worked!

    Steemit claims to be a solution, but it’s just as centralized, monopolized, and controlled as anything else. One big investor or hostile takeover and that shit gets shut down. Free today, censored tomorrow.

    We need to stop pretending these are novel solutions when they are tightly controlled mini-monopolies.

    I’m mad as hell and I have to keep taking it because I don’t know what else to do, other than DEMAND CORBETT REPORT ON THIS ! ! !

    • I wouldn’t have to rant here, if like most software and app developers, if BitChute had any kind of developers forum (even on the annoying as fuck Disqus) for suggestions, praises, features, bugs, glitches, etc. BitChute could figure out a way to go open source if it really wanted to help mankind.

      Man I wish I could code. I’d make a decentralized fusion “site/network” featuring currency(ies), forum/reddit/voat, wiki/archive, tweet/gab/message, and audio/video/torrents.

    • rayvahey says:

      Hello Jason, I’m sorry to have made you angry.

      If you would like to download the magnet links without downloading a dedicated WebTorrent client then you can use the Brave web browser. Brave supports magnet links from installation and it will give you a link in the bottom right of the screen to save the file.

      If you do choose to use a dedicated client then I suggest this one https://webtorrent.io/desktop/
      We’ve tested both of these methods with popular and unpopular content and haven’t been able to reproduce the issue you described here. If you are still having problems and would like to help me troubleshoot then please em ail me at ray@bitchute.com and we can do some back and forth to get to the bottom of this.

      With regards to decentralization. We’re working towards the goal, I can tell you some of what we have planned.

      For a long time I’ve wanted to store all video meta data inside the blockchain. I do think for people who want to*, it would be good to have a record of all torrented media.

      1. It holds us accountable, if we remove a video you can point to this record and know we cannot remove it.
      2. It is a decentralized database of torrents, if then another person comes along and wants to draw information from this chain they are free to do so.

      *Some people prefer not to be in an immutable blockchain, we should respect that and allow them to opt-out.

      The speed of and costs of blockchains has been a roadblock to this, for example etherium currently has a maximum transaction rate of 15 per second. While this may seem quite high it doesn’t seem very future proof.

      Other models such as steem take a different approach, they enlist a set of 22 miners who have a right to mine the blockchain. While this seems to work for them, I wasn’t keen to try and get something like this running as it seems very difficult to ensure the miners are uncorrupted.

      There is more recently a BTC side chain approach that will go live in 2018, this will allow upto 2k transactions a second with the possibility to increase in the future. This is the model we plan to use.

      Please consider that decentralization for censorship resistance is only one part of the problem. Youtube is currently over 15% of the total bandwidth in north America daily. The cost and the infrastructure is huge. Fortunately we have a model in the form of BitTorrent ~5% of all bandwidth, previously >30% that is proven to scale to these sorts of demands.

      Torrent Naming – I think this is a good suggestion and something we can improve
      Forum – Good idea, long overdue. I’ll make sure we get something up

      If you would like to help, coding is not the only way. Perhaps you could be a moderator on the new forum when it’s ready or any number of things, email me and we’ll sort something out of you are interested.

      Ray

  10. HomeRemedySupply says:

    James, check the link to “New World Next Week”. Right now the link goes to an older NWNW.
    Gosh guy! You have been a really busy guy! I can barely keep up.

  11. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Interesting…
    Currently, Trump is in the Asia region.

    Washington Post Nov 9, 2017
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/9/china-energy-invest-83b-west-virginia-shale-gas/
    QUOTE
    China Energy, the world’s leading power company, announced Thursday it plans to spend more than $83 billion on shale gas and chemical projects in West Virginia, a deal that represents a massive foreign investment in American energy.

    A memorandum of understanding between the company and American officials was signed as President Trump meets with his Chinese counterpart. The agreement is part of a broader package of deals signed between the two nations totaling well over $200 billion.

    The investment is expected to stretch over two decades. The $87 billion will be spent on power generation efforts, chemical manufacturing facilities and liquefied natural gas storage projects….

  12. manbearpig says:

    Hezbollah is the people.

    May Allah keep the people and Marwan Osman safe.

  13. herrqlys says:

    I, too, was impressed with Marwan. Her delineating the event timeline was illuminating and provided a key to understanding the “purge” as well as reporting on some of its tactics. Fuller details about the “why” will no doubt be far more complex, especially to Western observers.

    I was waiting for more detail about Saad Hariri’s investments in Saudi Arabia, as I had read elsewhere that he had become a large player by virtue of the Saudi part of his dual citizenship. Marwan’s explanation of his tight personal connection with prince Aziz bin Fahd (killed in the shootout during attempt to arrest him) rendered that other info moot. Anyway, somebody has something of significant import on Hariri.

    It would be interesting to know if the princes killed and arrested so far have any common linkage with, or patronage of, the Muslim Brotherhood (The Society of the Muslim Brothers). In 2014, the Saudis and the UAE labeled MB as a terrorist group.

    And things like this:
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170920-saudi-university-to-sack-all-suspected-brotherhood-linked-academics/

    Qatar has supported MB Syrian proxies in Homs, Hama, Idlib, and Aleppo. Turkey also has MB proxies in Syria, although president Recep Erdoğan has denied their military involvement. This, though, is one common thread with Qatar, and why Turkey has supported the Gulf state with a token troop deployment during the GCC imbroglio. Qatar is also one of the biggest foreign investors in Turkey.

    Complicating diplomacy is that both states host huge US/NATO airbases in the region: Incirlik, Turkey and Al Udeid at Doha, Qatar.

    The issue of the Muslim Brotherhood is more complicated than that, though, and there are tentacles both big and small throught the Islamic world.

    Additional information about the Muslim Brotherhood factor inside Saudi Arabia itself could make the shape of the geopolitics clearer, and might be a major driver in the current Saudi events.

    • manbearpig says:

      can’t quite remember but, though it is largely a gatekeeping piece, doesn’t Adam Curtis’ “The Power of Nightmares” provide some insight about the Muslim Brotherhood and maybe offer some hints about their role in Saudi Arabia…? Maybe not…sort of rings a bell though…wish I had time to check but…

  14. manbearpig says:

    “and everybody goes back to the Ritz Carlton but as detainees…”

    Sophia unveiled, becomes the first artificial honeypot… A female robot traps men in Saudi Arabia… a sort of poetic irony? vengeance? a symbol or coded message?

    will the simulation of a female human trap Man?

  15. vikingraider says:

    Not sure about Marwa Osman after her bizarre actions on the Richie Allen show. What was all that about?

    • manbearpig says:

      Would you care to specify which appearence on the Richie Allen show or perhaps a link? Or at least specify what exactly you find abjectionable?

    • herrqlys says:

      I always enjoy Richie Allen. I hadn’t seen this video (Oct 13, 2016) before but I’m glad I finally did because it was very informative, even now, as a retrospective. Very passionate, too.

      I’ll save the poster the trouble of locating the link to that Richie Allen-Marwa Osman-Jamila Assi video (Notice: it starts with an advertising segment):

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtVri-qDvWA

      That only leaves vikingraider to share what they consider “bizarre actions”, because I’m very curious now.

      I also include a further link to a publication that Marwa Osman contributes to (ergo the advertising mentioned above):

      https://crescent.icit-digital.org/

      This is also an opportunity for me to apologize to Marwa for slovenly attention to detail in misspelling her name in a prior post.

      • manbearpig says:

        Funny, ’cause I read VikingRaider’s comment during a 45-minute lunch break yesterday, so I immediately typed “marwan osman richie allen” and got this:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-fuuZPVDRs

        I watched as carefully as I could to find something “abjectionable” yet the video only confirmed my impression of Marwa Osman as being truly awesome.

        but then the search engine shows me the Jamila Assi Marwa Osman Richie Allen episode so I quickly skipped around trying to find something wierd but then had to return to my alternative reality as an English teacher (yes I teach words I invent as well such as “abjectionable”; in fact I’m seeding an entirely new English lexicon on fertile French territory).

        So, I was truly intrigued as to what the commenter above could possibly be referring to.

        But I guess we can just thank “them” for inciting us to discover Ms. Osman’s other interviews…

        ?

        • manbearpig says:

          Oh! Richie Allen/Marwa Osman interview link in my post just above is from March 1st, 2017.

          uh, the link that’s coming up soon that is, after a little loitering in the moderation queue…

        • herrqlys says:

          Well I’m truly baffled, because some 15 or more hours ago when I searched YouTube – which I already had open – a Richie Allen Marwa Osman search only returned the video link I posted above.

          Now, from both a Google search and a new YouTube search the results are much different. The interview on Yemen (Mar 1, 2017) is the first result in both cases. In fact the screen layout for YouTube is a whole lot different now than it was initially.

          Strange things afoot with algorithms? Or should I cut down on the amount of tea I drink?

  16. manbearpig says:

    Ok… better late than never… I finally actually listened to this interview…

    what you’ve been saying all along…

    kushner counseling mad would-be saudi king to provoking lebanon through forced hariri resignation to start war to destroy hezbollah after having already destroyed yemen, contributed to massive destruction in syria, starting feuds with qatar…

    now bin salman has pushed hariri to france to buy time for aramco deal to see what israel will offer in exchange for continued saudi “alliance” for hezbollah and eventually iran destruction..

    but saudi people not pleased…

    and lebanese people not pleased…will hezbollah be baited into war (contrary to what marwa osman says?)

    will israel betray bin salman to unleash mayhem in saudi arabia through cousins’ vengeance, or would this be too favorable to hezbollah?

    what will russia and china finally say about it all?

    and France playing predictable zionist game…?

    were you saying that china might enter war with usa over such an incident… gotta check that out!

    anyhow… I’ll keep running to try to catch up…

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