The Poetry of F.R. Scott - FLNWO #36

06/29/20169 Comments

Francis Reginald Scott was a celebrated Canadian lawyer, constitutional expert, translator and poet. And he was also the father of Peter Dale Scott. And the man who advised Pierre Elliott Trudeau to invoke the War Measures Act in 1970. Join us for this exploration of the poetry, life and fascinating career of F.R. Scott with the world's foremost researcher on deep politics, Peter Dale Scott.

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F.R. Scott at SGWU, 1969

F. R. Scott : Biography

Selection of Poems by F.R. Scott

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  1. James,

    Very interesting episode, thank you. It was much too short for all of the lines of inquiry you broached.

  2. flyingdutchman33 says:

    Coincidentally I watched the whole Rambo series very recently. At the end of Rambo 3 the following text appears:

    “This film is dedicated to the gallant people of Afghanistan”

    Which is is very, very ironical given what has happened there since, wouldn’t you agree?

  3. VoltaicDude says:

    Kudos especially for salvaging the pod – great job!

    The poetry was enticing. The subjects were fertile ground. Even with the losses to the ether of Skype it’s a lot to chew on!

    Just Scott’s brief comments on Occupy provide a lot to consider. Below are a few snippets of his commentary that especially caught my attention.

    (Reacting to extracted passages like this can come off as very negative critique – please keep in mind that is contrary to my aim. I wish to highlight recurrent structures/problems with political action and organization – it’s especially revealing to do that in contrast to such a formidable figure as P.D. Scott.)

    P.D.S.: “…as I looked at ‘Occupy’…early stages…saying something important that had to be said…but later on…whoever turned up at the park…those kind of people will never be the significant alternative that will change America…[They needed] to reach people that have jobs, that are working, but yet are ready at a critical moment to put their bodies on the line.”

    REACTION: I was a “whoever” aware that Occupy was only potentially a beginning. We needed millions on the streets. I often expressed this, but it seemed mostly to deaf ears.

    The millions of office workers caged in the skyscrapers surrounding the park would sometimes visit for lunch, but were not “critically” engaged.

    At times Occupy felt very open and welcoming – a good vibe – but Occupy was also weird. For me there was an ominous sense of hidden structure – where did all this come from? Also, there was heavy infiltration and sabotage beyond the obvious heavy police presence.

    The Police directed homeless people suffering with mental health issues and histories of disturbing the peace to camp out at Occupy to precipitate conflict. Reactions were uncoordinated; the appearance of cliques and competing “fiefdoms” arose. How many and which players were provocateurs? How much was just naturally arising interpersonal conflict? Either way, it illustrated fundamental issues that remained barriers to greater development of the movement.

    P.D.S.: Such a movement has “to impose a discipline of non-violence…I was never arrested”

    REACTION: But even MLK and Gandhi were arrested (lol). Also, “imposing non-violence” – hmmm, there could be an enduring problem somewhere in that construct – no?

    P.D.S.: “…there had never been anything like the Vietnam anti-war movement before…”

    REACTION: And as Scott goes on to point out the anti-war movement originating with the Vietnam War was effective. He observes that the huge protests against the Iraq War were not successful.

    Scott makes no mention about the small showing against the invasion of Libya, which not surprisingly were not effective at averting that disaster.

    Nor does he mention the substantial push-back from popular opinion regarding the various gearings-up to invade Syria – which were a part of the equation of avoiding all-out- war with Syria, at least so far.

    All this reminds me of what’s happened recently with Anonymous. You’ve been vindicated on everything you ever said about it James.

    At the same time it serves a very useful purpose! It requires that we analyze any Anonymous message according to what it says – not the “trusted” label, if that be the case.

    The Humanity Party® presents The Way To World Peace “Imagine”

    Anonymous Operation Expose Orlando

    Anonymous Emergency Message

    Anonymous The Humanity Party Hacked

  4. nosoapradio says:

    A hymn to restraint, diplomacy and the understatement – Part 1:

    We Are Everything!

    Perhaps the most revealing and intriguing work on the Corbett record. Brilliantly constructed as usual. deep state driven by deep psychology… ego and alter ego… witting and unwitting proponents of the warring deep state itself and the new world order… revelation of the method?

    Voltaic Dude said “…but Occupy was also weird. For me there was an ominous sense of hidden structure – where did all this come from?…”

    I wonder to what extent the anti-war movement is profoundly analagous to the occupy movement… with the likes of Chomsky and the IPS among their ranks…

    The Institute for Policy Studies offshoot of the Tavistock institute: “…This is the legacy of the Warburgs and the CIA. Their principal agency, the Institute for Policy Studies, was funded by James Paul Warburg; its co-founder was Marcus Raskin, protege of McGeorge Bundy, president of the Ford Foundation. Bundy had Raskin appointed to the post of President Kennedy’s personal representative on the National Security Council, and in 1963 funded Students for Democratic Society, through which the CIA operated the drug culture…”

    “…Even as the IPS opposes the trinity of capitalism, big corporations, and globalization, it professes an unquestioning faith in the righteousness of the United Nations. Evidence of this faith can be discerned in the think tank’s “New Internationalism” project. Introduced in 1996 and directed by IPS fellow Phyllis Bennis, this project is concerned with blueprinting a foreign policy attuned to the edicts of the UN, rather than concerns of U.S. national interest. The IPS proposes this new internationalism to be nothing less than a “defense of the United Nations against U.S. domination,” a theme echoed in Bennis’s 2000 book, Calling the Shots: How Washington Dominates Today’s UN…The IPS is a member of OneWorld Network, an umbrella organization of more than 1,500 leftwing groups that, according to the OneWorld website, seek “to promote sustainable development, social justice, and human rights….””

  5. nosoapradio says:

    A hymn to restraint, diplomacy and the understatement – Part 2

    candid questions met with candid answers… diplomacy can go a long way…

    I wonder what Douglas Valentine, the man who’s painted an ambiguous picture of PD Scott’s self-professed muse, would have to say about this piece?

    “Through the last forty years Dan has been the principal inspiration in my personal life.”

    To what extent is PD Scott’s frankness studied?

    “By the Ellsberg Precept I mean the revelation that the timely disclosure of suppressed truth can bring about needed social change.”

    To what extent is his own analysis coloured by…consensual bias?

    “In particular, in the case of climate reporting, he suggested to me that we find people inside energy companies to expose the origins of climate denialism.”

    This program would merit many, many hours of patient research and meticulous analysis…

    Unfortunately, I’m fairly destitute in all three domains.

    Devotion to unity, peace, doublespeak et l’ange avant-guardien

    Gotta go up my donations to this site…

  6. nosoapradio says:

    Well, just listened to the above link again; Nice complement to this FLNWO episode.

  7. bgree says:

    Rambo3, aye??? I think that’s the one I fell asleep to years ago. Woke up in time to see Rambo killing Ruskins. Very well. I’ll try it again. No promises.

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