The CIA Preps Their Next JFK Psyop

08/30/201757 Comments

We all know that the last of the JFK assassination records are due to be declassified in October. And we even know what the government says it’s hiding from us. But do you know the story that the CIA is trying to plant in the public consciousness about what is going to be “revealed” in these documents?

SHOW NOTES:
JFK

JFK Assassination Files: Oliver Stone Testifies Before Congress on Government Records (1992)

JFK Records Act

Assassination Records Review Board

Bamford’s 2001 report on Operation Northwoods

25 year disclosure mandate

National Archives reveals JFK declassification plans

Countdown to 2017

What the government is still hiding about the JFK assassination

How the CIA Came to Doubt the Official Story of JFK’s Murder

The assassination of President John F Kennedy: the finger points to the KGB

Formation of the Warren Commission

Episode 287 – Meet Lee Harvey Oswald, Sheep-Dipped Patsy

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  1. mkey says:

    Lies, damned lies and declassified CIA documents. This is so ridiculous on so many levels one has to be amazed. They must be laughing their butts off.

  2. wingsuitfreak says:

    I started laughing when I saw that one unreadable document. Reminded me when I used to scan old microfiche records. Yech! I’ve often wondered (just idle curiosity, not active) why they ever really released the Northwoods papers. It’s so easy to bury paperwork in government; yet they didn’t.

    • fire says:

      Yeah, really. It made me wonder how many tens-of-thousands of times they must have ran those documents through a Xerox in pre-Photoshop times to generate that kind of dcument degradation. It’s pure bullshit.

      • wingsuitfreak says:

        It’s hilarious to me that people expect an honest answer from an agency whose very job is to lie. It’s one of the reasons I never read them. That, and grad school ended my passion for that type of research. While it is true that who controls the past, controls the future; history is a perspective on the past. It doesn’t even require ill will for it to become a pile of government. Even though I graduated in 97, I bet I haven’t read a dozen serious works of history since then. It’s amazing how much wind an academic can put in between book covers.

  3. janiece.t says:

    When you talked about NARA it reminded me of an email I read from Fred Burton to ‘Saint John’, Sam Hunt’s son, I think.

    He reached out to ask about a plane crash on the Potomac & whether Saint John had ever tried to recover the items. Burton offered to help, but dropped this randomly:

    “Have you FOIA’ed the FBI and CIA files on your Father? There should be
    two files. One other interesting nugget. Texas DPS and the Texas
    Rangers have files on the JFK shooting, however, I don’t think anyone has
    ever looked at them? It may shed new nuggets.”

    Here’s the email link:

    https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/emailid/373821

    I found Burton starting one email with “After I captured Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the first World Trade
    Center bombing, our govt came after me, so I quit the intelligence
    business and moved to Austin, Texas” & “What most people don’t realize is
    that our govt is capable of anything” worth the read on its own :).

    I found it interesting that he reached out to offer help with a plane crash & casually mentioned the JFK files. I forgot I had been meaning to go back & dig into the files he mentioned in Texas more until watching this video.

    Burton is an interesting one. I do plan to go back & dig more into that but I’ve been trying to extract info on his time at DSS. Just wanted to share this though.

  4. Alain.Graulus says:

    What a coincidence, i watched yesterday Oliver Stone’s JFK again (with all the extra’s). Without knowing this news.

  5. nosoapradio says:

    random midnight ramblings:

    Dunno anything about the JFK assassination except for what I learn here at the Corbett Report, most notably about Lee Harvey Oswald.

    Haven’t even watched Stone’s movie.

    Looked up what William Pepper had to say about it and he and his interviewer evoked Mary Pinchot Meyer.

    Dunno if there’s anything to dig up in that garden but the following link sure was an interesting read from tabloidal and sociological perspectives:

    http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmeyerM.htm

    It seems one could speak about a classic Modus Operandi when listening to Pepper speak about Sirhan Sirhan and James Earl Ray that resembles Mary Pinchot Meyer and JFK’s murders… but I’d have to really look closer to be sure…

    I really appreciated the explanation of ’embedding’, a phenomenon that I believe I’ve noticed before but didn’t know the word for…

    Very astute observations about colourig the whole thing ruskie red in anticipation…

    public perception management is a 24/7 job…

    crazy thing is, for my entourage, Stone’s just making movies and the Warren commission report is pure gospel.

    I believe that’s what Chomsky says as well… or was it “Who Cares?”

    1963 was also the year the Warburgs created the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington DC… that Chomsky helped out with…a Marxist think tank…when timothy Leary had everyone on LSD…

    • wingsuitfreak says:

      While reading that I felt I was stuck in some strange mixture of GoodFellows, Harrison Bergeron (sp?), and Monty Python without the humor. All stuck in a scene in a trailer park. I could only make it through about 90% of it. After that, the constant repeating, with changes, turned it all into mush.

      • nosoapradio says:

        brain in a protochaotic state -barely fallen out of bed but won’t have time to spend on the site today – urgent and long translation marathon in view…owe you curtesy of a proto response…

        With the constant censoring and rewriting of history I always hope that unexpected evidence for the crimes will be in the association of events and people – associations “they’ve” forgotten to doctor up…

        It’s intriguing to see who travelled in what circles – The Warburgs, with the Dulles, with the Meyers, the Grahams and the Kennedys, the prominent artists, thinkers, journalists of international renown and gatekeepers,… to see who was ostensibly communist, or macarthyist, a trendsetter, in what Universities, clubs, fraternities, think tanks…

        Women can be a revealing connection to what often appears to be a male-dominated puzzle

        wish I actually took more time to look into that – the year of 1963 – Monroe, Huxley, Kennedy, IPS, vietnam, Jackie and LBJ, laurel canyon, banking,technology and international relations…

        1963…A Wrinkle in Time…

        guess what, I’m late…

      • nosoapradio says:

        gosh, I forgot Daniel Ellsberg…Germaine…Landsdale and the French Connection…

        and of course the civil rights movement…

        I don’t remember GoodFellows or Harrison Bergeron but I believe I understand the stifling mood you’re trying to paint…

        • wingsuitfreak says:

          Harrison Bergeron was a movie based on a screenplay by Kurt Vonnegut. It is an intentionally cheesy looking 1950s styled America where everyone wears this device on their head to make them average. A C grade is optimal. Brandon Fraser (I know) plays the hero who takes his off. My favorite character is played by the Eugene Levy, who plays the president, who is selected by lottery. He is absolutely fantastically insane! It is an amazing, and often over-looked, movie that would do well in the NWO Film series. Goodfellows was a pretty accurate portrayal of the NY mob. DeNiro and Pechi (my favorite lunatic in the movie) were amazing. History Buffs (a youboob channel) has a nice review of it. I would recommend both whole-heartedly.

          • nosoapradio says:

            This is just way too cruel! Lunch break, started watching Harrison Bergeron on YT a few minutes ago…

            reminds me how much I loved Breakfast of Champions and Cat’s Cradle (another 1963 event…)

            and sorta reminds me of this video and the expression on Don Pettit’s face at 9 minutes 57 seconds:

            http://truthstreammedia.com/2017/08/03/two-hilarious-things-nasa-ever-said/ (start in the middle)

            and now I’ve gotta stop!! (to devote my time to furthering and diversifying my “career” and learning all about the French National Assembly… info I probably won’t retain anyway…

            can’t believe I never read the book or heard about the movie…I can be so scattered…

            anyhow

            thanks

          • nosoapradio says:

            “Harrison…any particular openings you’d like to explore?”

            Priceless! Hilarious! Funnygut lives up to his name!

            …ok…just 5 more minutes…should be working…

            talk about a guilty pleasure…

            • wingsuitfreak says:

              Yes, Kurt was an amazing man. This was never a book, but a screenplay written by him. Suppressed immediately, but never entirely. I only learned of it by chance from a friend who loved these types of movies. He was such an amazing man. Did you know he never wrote drafts? When he finished a book, it was finished the first time. Not that the trash can wasn’t filled during the writing process. Every word had to be perfect. Having written (for myself only as a rule) myself, I view the first draft more as an exploration of an idea, with the cementing of it to follow in the editing. His mind must have been so amazingly clear. I loved Levy’s role: “Nuke ’em”. Now I need to go watch it again. Ten years ago is ten years ago too long.

              • nosoapradio says:

                Just finished

                Harrison Bergeron…A requiem for the suicided…

                A wrinkle in time

                Harrison Bergeron

                James Corbett

                Canadians are extraordinary…

                Malgré le Troudu Troudeau…

          • HomeRemedySupply says:

            Goodfellows
            Jump Into The Fire gives the flavor of the movie.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6RtVjMDHzE&feature=youtu.be

            …and listen to that bass!

            In a 1968 interview John Lennon said of Harry Nilsson, “everything influences everything, Nilsson’s my favorite group.” McCartney mirrored the statement. In the same interview, the two confirm Nilsson is both their “favorite artist” and “favorite American group”. Later that day, when a journalist wondered what they thought about American music, Lennon replied, “Nilsson! Nilsson for president.

      • nosoapradio says:

        Oh! And Operant Conditioning! BF Skinner in “63:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Obv5nC1aI

        haven’t had time to listen myself so…

    • Mark44 says:

      Yes Chomsky’s “Who cares” (about 9/11 today)?
      My response: “Who cares about Chomsky?”

  6. PeaceFroggs says:

    Like 9/11, we’ll probably never know “exactly” who did it, however we do know why they did it, and that’s what’s most important isn’t it?

    We know 9/11 was used as a pretext to attack Iraq in 2003, just like we also know that immediately after the JFK assassination LBJ ramped up the Vietnam war, when JFK was seeking rapprochement with the Soviet Union, and therefore more than likely putting an end to the cold war.

    Problem – Reaction – Solution

    • john.o says:

      There may have been, I believe there were, somewhat DIFFERENT WHYS operating as motives for different parties coming from different perspectives, even at the upper levels of the operation. Historically, assassinations are often worked out as deals.

      And there is the question of what goals the parties may originally have wanted to accomplish, versus the benefits they were willing to accept after the operation.

      I believe the following different motives were involved, some shared by some parties, some not, some even at odds:

      1. Continue war spending in Vietnam, Oil in Vietnam, Opium in Vietnam
      2. Re-invade Cuba
      3. Keep alive MacArthur’s WWII Far East fascist spy, drug and stolen treasure war machine (in which Bush, Oswald and an interesting gent named Charles Willoughby all had roles)
      4. Desire for a full scale nuclear war with the USSR and China (no shit) by several prominent and very real high-ranking military officers and members of the JCOS.
      5. Weapons $ in general, the General dynamics contract
      6. Revenge and control or destruction of Roosevelt’s soft lefty banking-industrial-class New Deal apparatus by more overtly fascist right wing arch-enemies inside the same banking-industrial-class (Prescott Bush, Dupont, many others. This is one operation all the way to 911 and the present.)
      7. Relief for the Mafia, and other crime networks, feeling their markets shrink and their control over Unions slipping under the rather naïve Kennedys
      8. Honest to God Militant Southern White Racist revenge
      9. To test what they could get away with on TV. (How did they do? After 50 years of overwhelming evidence that they lied, and 30 years seeing it with our own eyes, the lies are still taught in school as history.)

      Not everybody got what they wanted. But they all got enough to keep the open secrets secret. And there are always those who play at the very VERY top, and whoever else wins or loses, they win, if you can call losing your soul and gaining the whole world, winning.

      • wingsuitfreak says:

        Isn’t it amazing how incredulous the Russians were that our “republic” could still stand after that abomination? Reminds me of when Jefferson wrote Adams about how the theft of the presidency by Adams’ son showed how it would still stand. Or even Nixon.

      • john.o says:

        I forgot two more:

        10. FBI & Hoover hatred and fear of Bobby; revenge.

        11. LBJ revenge, desire to become President and fear of the Bobby Baker scandal and getting dumped as VP in 64.

      • mkey says:

        I don’t think any of these idiots ever really wanted to commit to nuclear warfare. Maybe a completely insane general or two.

        Oliver Stone claims that at the time JFK became president there was a huge disparity between US and USSR armaments, making the “race” a matter of colloquialism and propaganda. I don’t know if there is anything concrete to support JKF’s intent to demilitarize the West-East stance. It sounds like that “he wanted to take on the bankers” malarkey.

        • wingsuitfreak says:

          Uh, speaking as someone who spent time in the army, I disagree. In fact, while I was in there was this whole concept of limited nuclear war being promoted. Those morons actually believed that if we nuked someone, they would play all nice and just nuke us back a little bit. There are a lot of bulletheads leading the way in the military. Look at mixmaster. All he can think of is a frontal assault military solution. Hardly a master of war. Never forget that in a bureaucracy, it isn’t cream that’s floating on the top of that milkshake. Smart people generally get out because the sheer insanity and stupidity of those above them make the idea of staying intolerable.

          • mkey says:

            I don’t doubt there’s a lot of insanity brewing in the military circles, but there’s also a lot of stupidity, politics and careerism. I think (a pure conjecture) these generals don’t start wars that often, but they do get brought into a messy situation to take one for the team. Sometimes they get the chance to be on the forefront of a stellar victory.

            I’m not saying they don’t want to use nukes because of goodness of their heart. Were the US the only nuclear power we would probably had more opportunity to see the bomb used throughout history, but the only times it was used was back then when the US was the only nuclear power.

            • wingsuitfreak says:

              Generals are all for wars. They love the idea of others dying so they can grab the glory. The top levels seem to only see war as the only answer. These are the types that make it to the top. Smart people get out. Just as in every government bureaucratic system. One of the reasons a standing army is the greatest threat to liberty is because they are always headed by idiots. If you knew just how idiotic they were, you probably wouldn’t sleep as good as you do now. When you watch mixmaster on tv; remember he only thinks of the direct military option. For someone in his position, that thought should be on the back burner. But it isn’t in his. Bulletheads run the army. They have a one-track mind and it’s always set on stupid.

              Things haven’t changed much since Montcalm grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory over Wolfe which gave canada to england. One of the dumbest battles the world has ever seen.

            • john.o says:

              First, while there is debate over the meaning and scope of NSAM 263, there is no debate over the unofficial back-channel negotiations JKK/RFK were carrying out with the Soviets over Cuba and there was a very good reason they had to go back-channel. They had now been betrayed by the CIA’s assassinations in the Congo and Vietnam and the Bay of Pigs Lies, and had been openly goaded into a near nuclear showdown over Cuba by those “crazy generals.”

              One need not depend on any “the Kennedy’s were white Knights” theories. They were in political danger and increasingly, I believe, they knew they sensed they were in physical danger too.

              This is not anything like the spurious “Kennedy was killed because he took on Fed Reserve” claim.

              I can tell you from personal experience that it was a common opinion when I was living in Southern California in the 60s, that Roosevelt and Truman were themselves communists who had betrayed us by not pressing the nuclear advantage and simply conquering the known world when we had the chance, after Nagasaki but before the Soviet nuclear program. The idea that the Korean and Vietnamese wars were winnable if the politicians just had the guts to nuke the gooks was very common and went right up to the upper brass.

              I don’t have time at the moment, but this actually relates to Corbett’s puzzlement at how a link to “None Dare Call it Conspiracy” is looped into the assassination mix.

              • wingsuitfreak says:

                I remember reading a fairly convincing story that the Russians got the nuclear bomb straight out of the white house. I believe it came through the state department. I wish I could remember more of it, but I had forgotten it completely until I just read your comment.

      • PeaceFroggs says:

        john.o,

        I agree with you, assassinations are last resort type of things, therefore there is usually a computation of many different goals that will more than likely be achieved after the fact before they agree to carrying out.

        My point is, looking at the big picture, the main, primary goal of JFK’s assassination was to escalate the Vietnam War. All the other goals you enumerated were just a bonus.

        I know there is also esoteric historical significance to these types of events. The date Sept 11th 2001, wasn’t picked randomly out of a hat, and the date and location of JFK’s assassination were more than likely chosen for a reason.

        Did anyone catch the name of the Hurricane that is currently reeking havoc in Houston? It’s named “Harvey”, as in Lee “Harvey” Oswald?! Maybe something, maybe nothing. My belief is that it’s probably “something”.

        • john.o says:

          I more or less agree with you, and so does David Lifton, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrzrmSw7EJk but my perspective is beginning to shift. Increasingly I see Vietnam, Cuba etc. as tactical contingencies in a much longer overarching plan for #s 3&6.

          6. Revenge and control or destruction of Roosevelt’s soft lefty banking-industrial-class New Deal apparatus by more overtly fascist right wing arch-enemies inside the same banking-industrial-class (Prescott Bush, Dupont, many others. This is one operation all the way to 911 and the present.)
          3. Keep alive MacArthur’s WWII Far East fascist spy, drug and stolen treasure war machine (in which Bush, Oswald and an interesting gent named Charles Willoughby all had roles)

          In other words, I am beginning to believe that regardless of what Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, Nixon, Ford or whomever could be talked into, in SE Asia or anywhere, getting Cheney, Rumsfeld and a very solid Rockefeller/Rothschild contingent into the bureaucracy in key places, for complete control and internationalization of the Roosevelt Fed Control Machine, and finalizing the Mockingbird stranglehold on the media, were the real long term goals. And it basically required a violent power play to test boundaries, and feel “secure” long term in its victories.

          We are living in that long term now.

        • john.o says:

          Oh, and re namephreakisms in the intelligence community:

          “I have lost control of the government,” said Jimmy Carter, reportedly, as he cancelled his plans to push back at Reagan in a major initiative,and instead scooted off to Camp David to recover from almost getting killed.

          His would be assassins? Lone ranger Raymond Lee Harvey
          and his side-kick Osvaldo.

          (Actually they were the patsy distractions, think Sirhan Sirhan, but the real hit never materialized, by mistake or by plan.)
          https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2007/7/4/353992/-
          http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/author/marrs/carter.shtml
          http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/1979-u-s-president-jimmy-carter-assassination-attempt-cia-to-carter-play-ball-or-well-kill-you-like-we-did-jfk-2525942.html

          Do the spooks have a sense of humor? Yes, and a way of sending messages that everybody can read and understand implicitly, but nobody can talk about explicitly.

          Or perhaps the universe is scripted in a college film class in some other dimension.

          • PeaceFroggs says:

            john.o,

            Yep, I believe the Nazi’s were never really defeated after the war, they just relocated to the US (Operation Paper-clip).

            Now, I’m no Nazi, and I’m certainly not a communist either. During the cold war, both sides represented totalitarianism in one form or another. So whatever side someone may have been on, they were on the wrong side.

            That said, if there was ever a good side to the Nazi/Neocons, it’s that the Nixon shock of 1971, is probably what eventually led to the downfall of communism some 20 years later.

            Which is why, I believe they had to assassinate JFK. They just couldn’t wait any longer. They must have come to the conclusion that they had to escalated the Vietnam war ASAP, which Nixon would have obviously green lighted the very first day after his inauguration, had he won in 1960.

            They could not afford to wait another 5 years had JFK won reelection in 1964, which he would have done easily given his popularity in 1963.

            In my honest opinion, JFK wasn’t suppose to win against Nixon in 1960. The Kennedy brothers, thanks to their Chicago mob connections and Hollywood connections, managed to pull off an upset victory over Nixon.

            The JFK Presidency, pretty much through a monkey wrench into the whole Nazi/Neocon military industrial complex plans to defeat the communists, especially when it came to Vietnam in the late 50’s early 60’s.

            Even the Iranian hostage crisis in the late 70’s seemed to have been orchestrated by these spooks, or at the very least manipulated in such a way to help Reagan/Bush defeat Carter in 1980 (October surprise).

            So yeah, after all the spilled blood and carnage over the years, they finally managed to defeat the ideology of communism, great right? Sure, but now the world is left with a USA that is the sole superpower. A super power hellbent on warring with any nation that poses a threat to their dollar hegemony.

            • PeaceFroggs says:

              What the world needs today in my honest opinion, is a new Bretton Woods Agreement a la v2.0

            • john.o says:

              Totally agree. Kennedy was not supposed to win. One additional and now hard to understand factor: TELEVISION.

              TV was new. Not everybody had one and most places had only 1-3 channels operating about 12 hours a day. Some of my own relatives called it a passing fad when I was a toddler. By 1960 it had transformed the national psyche and the Kennedy administration was not just an effect of that but an essential element of the image of the new “TV world” itself. My source is my own earliest memories.

              It was a even (a little) like the internet. It opened a floodgate of initiatives and creative endeavors and amazing things like the live Oswald snuff film, then was systematically locked down over time.

              They are still locking it down with those JFK documentaries that show how the head either didn’t snap back or did so in a display of some physical anomaly that smells a lot like a steel building collapsed from a jet fuel fire.

              Or a bunch of hostages conveniently released on inauguration day.

            • john.o says:

              One more note on Nixon v. Kennedy. You are probably right, Nixon would have escalated Vietnam more easily and probably would even have provided air cover for the Bay of Pigs, but then one never quite knows. Nixon was using others for his own non-ideological megalomanic project. Eventually some of these same players brought had to bring down Nixon too, especially after he threatened to expose “The Bay of Pigs thing”. Bad move.

              Nixon was almost the last President to make the mistake of believing he was actually in charge of something. After that you really had to be a fool not to get the point, though Reagan I think suffered the same delusion.

              They tried to kill him too but that was not for his nationalist ideology. He was just in the way.

  7. ddave says:

    In the process of pondering/wondering/contemplating/imagining/exploring/researching/delving/considering/evaluating/reconciling or however else we interpret patterns and events that have occurred in the past, happening now and what we imagine may take place in the future, can we ever take our eyes/thoughts/mind off the information presented by John Coleman below? Do we not know the framework of the “power” and the court surrounding that power that tries to maintain/influence the status quo every second of every day and in every possible way? Should we not, for completeness/continuity/coherence relate to these action to that power structure keeping them in the human consciousness 24/7?

    https://archive.org/stream/HowVeniceTookOverEnglandandOth
    erArticlesEIRPalmerstonsZoo/Oligarchy%20-%20Venetian%20Black%20Nobility%20Excerpt%20of%20%27300%27_djvu.txt

    “Three hundred men, all of whom know one another, direct the economic
    destiny of Europe and choose their successors from among themselves.”
    –Walter Rathenau, 1909, founder of the mammoth German General Electric
    Corporation

    The Committee of 300 is a product of the British East India Company’s
    Council of 300. The East India Company was chartered by the British royal
    family in 1600. It made vast fortunes in the opium drug trade with China
    and became the largest company on earth in its time. Today, through many
    powerful alliances, the Committee of 300 rules the world and is the driving
    force behind the criminal agenda to create a “New World Order”, under a
    “Totalitarian Global Government”. There is no need to use “they” or “the
    enemy” except as shorthand. We know who “they”, the enemy, is. The
    Committee of 300 with its “aristocracy”, its ownership of the U.S. Federal
    Reserve banking system, insurance companies, giant corporations,
    foundations, communications networks, presided over by a hierarchy of
    conspirators — this is the enemy. Secret societies exist by deception. Each
    is a hierarchy with an inner circle at the top, who deceives those below with
    lies, such as claiming a noble agenda; thus, duping them into following a
    web of compartmentalized complicity. The inner circle of the Committee of
    300 is the Order of the Garter, headed by Queen Elizabeth Windsor II. It is
    interesting to note that the Windsor’s changed their name from the
    Germanic Saxe-Coburg-Gotha during WWI, because of anti-German
    sentiment.

  8. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Oliver Stone at Writers Guild Awards 2017
    (3 minutes)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY6yuHF3dG0

    I again toast the writers who try to inform, who try to send a message.

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      Personal ANECDOTE during the time when Oliver Stone was filming JFK in Dallas. My truck/van used in a JFK Jack Ruby movie.
      https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1281-new-world-next-week-with-james-evan-pilato/#comment-39943

    • wingsuitfreak says:

      While I’ve never really kept up with the JFK assassination, or his brother’s, I do remember seeing the Library (only from the outside) and another video interview from the police officer whose story contradicted the official story. He spoke out and was then promptly killed in the line of duty. He spoke of the spent casings being so neatly arranged. The CIA has always had a heavy hand. It’s one of their trademarks.
      I remember when the CIA agents who had kidnapped the Muslim man in italy were tried. While it only received 20 minutes (or was it seconds?) of airtime on CBS, and none on any other american “news” station, it did get a lot of coverage in germany and italy. These agents were as James Bond as the Muppets. But why do they need to be stealthy when they control all the news outlets? Plus, working for the state makes them untouchable.

  9. john.o says:

    Easy to follow links to the docs hosted on blackvault.com at the site of the stalwart (and sly) Mary Ferrell Foundation:

    http://www.maryferrell.org/pages/2017_Document_Releases.html

    “How the CIA Came to Doubt the Official Story of JFK’s Murder by Philip Shenon and Larry J. Sabato…provides a charitable interpretation of how the CIA “failed to pursue clues” about Oswald’s contacts with Cubans and Soviets. It is based primarily on a 27-page memo prepared for Richard Helms for his Congressional testimony.”

    Truly the MFF has moved mountains. Respected by every major assassination researcher I can think of. Consider supporting!

    (direct to blackvault here: http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/withheld-jfk-assassination-documents/#)

    • john.o says:

      WhoWhatWhy (with its own interesting relationship to the 911 28-pages Saudis-did-it maneuver, and a conspicuously selective treatment of the conspiracy landscape) on an un-redacted redaction of Rockefeller Commission doc: https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/08/15/cia-hid-rockefeller-committee/

      Gems:

      “It was the bungled attempts to kill Castro that prompted the…Church and Pike Committees…to reveal the existence of the program in 1975 and to request documents like [this one, outlining the direct approval from CIA Dir Plans BISSEL for use of diplomatic pouches to supply weapons to kill Trujillo in the Dominican Republic].”

      “But according to historian John Prados, Ford’s deputy, Richard CHENEY, personally edited materials, including the summary provided to the Rockefeller Commission that was based on a CIA history of the Guatemala coup, commissioned in 1967….” – report

      and :

      “But assassination can seldom be employed with a clear conscience. Persons who are morally squeamish should not attempt it.” — CIA Training Manual, 1952

      • wingsuitfreak says:

        Moral squeamishness. Yes, many think they are beyond that until their own morality is tested. It may take years for it to bubble up, but by then it is too late for the deed has been done. Those that don’t have this quality are generally low-level psychopaths who aren’t capable of the mental organization required to be a successful assassin. A violent life-style has a habit of returning in the form of self-destructive behavior patterns.

  10. VoltaicDude says:

    I agree, it could be that blaming the Soviets (or, interestingly, and specifically relevant to my point here, “the Ruskies” as you say), might be a safe way to blame a technically non-existent entity with minimal splash, but that follows a very logical path which Mockingbird is fully adept at evading.

    The public at large is not necessarily susceptible to logic.

    All State Department lies about Iran (pretty much everything one hears in the “news”) should logically lead our attention back to President Mosaddeqh – that pretty much never happens.

    Same with Iraq – all mention should logically lead back to a perspective on General Qasim – again, never happens.

    Qasim is why the CIA hired a young Saddam Hussein to be their assassin – incompetent as he may have been at the task, he later proved quite useful at terrorizing the Iraqi people for decades.

    Later on, when Saddam Hussein became too big for his breaches, I mean britches, the US cut him down for “his role” in 911! – a pretty illogical (and obviously mendacious on the State Department’s side) conclusion – but it flew!

    I believe that it was also never specifically, technically claimed in the literal sense of those words, but it was a meme that for instance Fox News manipulated consummately to the extent that most of their viewers “somehow” actually believed Iraq was involved with the events of 911.

    These birds are smart and very suave in their deviousness.

    When the State Department releases “analysis” that the Soviets may have been or were culpable in JFKs assassination, it will probably be another small bit of “history” that contributes to the average citizens gullibility regarding the warmongering bankster-military-industrial agenda, and the absurd public funding of the American terrorist network – all cloaked in “free-trade,” “national security,” and “responsibility-to-protect lingo.

  11. GSBE says:

    finger pointing to the KGB (?) … brings to mind that at one point the Kennedy’s were getting along with Khrushchev quite well — ‘Anatoly F. Dobrynin’s Meeting With Robert F. Kennedy’ – Khrushchev’s Description:

    The climax came after five or six days, when our ambassador to Washington, Anatoly Dobrynin, reported that the President’s brother, Robert Kennedy, had come to see him on an unofficial visit. Dobrynin’s report went something like this:

    “Robert Kennedy looked exhausted. One could see from his eyes that he had not slept for days. He himself said that he had not been home for six days and nights. ‘The President is in a grave situation,’ Robert Kennedy said, ‘and does not know how to get out of it. We are under very severe stress. In fact we are under pressure from our military to use force against Cuba. Probably at this very moment the President is sitting down to write a message to Chairman Khrushchev. We want to ask you, Mr. Dobrynin, to pass President Kennedy’s message to Chairman Khrushchev through unofficial channels. President Kennedy implores Chairman Khrushchev to accept his offer and to take into consideration the peculiarities of the American system. Even though the President himself is very much against starting a war over Cuba, an irreversible chain of events could occur against his will. That is why the President is appealing directly to Chairman Khrushchev for his help in liquidating this conflict. If the situation continues much longer, the President is not sure that the military will not overthrow him and seize power. The American army could get out of control.” – http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//nsa/cuba_mis_cri/moment.htm

  12. nosoapradio says:

    well this is fun

    anyone know David Livingston? Transhumanism, The HIstory of a Dangerous Idea…?

    or is it embedding?

    the bankers

    divide and conquer

    fighting the commies in Nam

    and in Cuba

    while starting the ‘new left’ through the IPS

    in D.C.

    the black panthers

    students for a democratic society

    the Weather Underground

    and

    breaking Tim Leary out of prison…?

    https://books.google.fr/books?id=FQSLCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA192&lpg=PA192&dq=IPS+DEMOCRATIC+STUDENTS+WEATHER&source=bl&ots=IrowDQj_sc&sig=LDvYRWTlEJqjQy9-uepZVkls2jA&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid6IHC6f_VAhWFVRoKHZgiAxoQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=IPS%20DEMOCRATIC%20STUDENTS%20WEATHER&f=false

    certainly silliness…

    using the civil rights movement for control purposes… ?

  13. HomeRemedySupply says:

    One thing astounds me.
    I can’t believe that the Russia Ploy has gotten so much milage.

    You would think that the general public would get pretty tired of hearing all this stuff about Russia.

    Maybe the world is devolving into a more stupider state of “Ignoramus Maximus”.

    Yes, now we can -er with more.

    • nosoapradio says:

      Maybe the Russia Ploy gets so much mileage because people HOPE IT’S TRUE!

      Perhaps because people want, and have wanted since Mary Pinchot Meyer was young and factory workers were exploited,

      and then since the IPS consecrated the New Left

      and since Putin has become a sort of 007 diplomatic superhero

      to be governed in a communistic, “everyone’s equal” and even all the same sex, world…

      people wanna believe the corrupt American State, uncle Sam himself, has been hacked

      and that the Russians have always, since even before JFK, been trying to save the good citizens from American orgy-style unsustainable consumption and rapacious beheavior towards the world…

      divide and conquer through our self-disgust and guilt and need to venerate

      we wanna saved from ourselves by James Bond…

      now I’m late…

      • nosoapradio says:

        so, the warburgs with the secret services finance pro-communist movements to create confusion, and cult fascinations with collectivism within USA

        lee harvey oswald, mary meyer and jfk with Russian proclivities

        but need the threat of communism to attack and destroy foreign countries for control of their resources and maintenance of the drug trade…

        merde! don’t have time to finish this idea…

    • wingsuitfreak says:

      I think the mileage is out of the fake left side of things. By constantly reinforcing the idea, the weaker minds of that side come to believe it. The fake right already has their mind set against it, not due to logic, but because of their hatred of the left. Or then again, it could be the CIA is just out of touch. While everyone tends to believe the myth that the powers that be are smarter than the rest, I’ve never thought that to be the case. Once you take out all the fluffy, descriptive words their spin doctors use to make them sound all-powerful, they are left looking quite inept.
      By the way, when you recently posted the links to the articles concerning the weapons being used against the mind; it reminded me that the cases of the face-eating zombies (in which the toxicology reports came up negative for drugs) that we occasionally hear of, could actually be victims of such weapons. Remember, in almost every zombie movie the government is behind it.

  14. MultiVitamin says:

    A must read for JFK researchers is “Murder in Dealey Plaza: What We Know Now that We Didn’t Know Then” by James H. Fetzer published Aug. 2000. He goes into great detail from eye witness testimony, Zapruder film modifications, medical forensic investigations into the National archives, etc.. You can only come to the conclusion that Oswald was the “patsy” and 3 letter government agencies, including the Secret Service, were behind the assassination.

    Fetzer has a few others regarding JFK, but the most recent one is “JFK Who How and Why” published this year (2017). I’ve purchased it but haven’t read it yet. Looking forward to it, however.

    MV

  15. MultiVitamin says:

    Oswald was in the doorway of the Texas School Book Depository. I’ve watched this a few times and it’s pretty compelling evidence.
    https://youtu.be/QWcLMdLdP1k

    Fetzer’s Blogspot link on the article discussing the video.
    http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2017/02/appendix-oswald-was-in-doorway-during.html

    MV

  16. wingsuitfreak says:

    Off topic, but thought you might like to know what military weapons your local police have collected. Just off Activist Post. My county has about 50 M-16s and 9 12 GA. They are lightly armed. Plus, they are a bunch of idiots, so they are facing better armed good-old boys who live by don’t start none, won’t be none. Anyway, here’s the link:

    https://bridge.caspio.net/dp.asp?utm_source=Activist+Post+Subscribers&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=13a9fe0cd7-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_b0c7fb76bd-13a9fe0cd7-388180989&appSession=0L028D67G56FBPL3YBYMRWF5Y7PD21D6N971L96YQ88Z52S3K1BB1SU70Z25H063LE95ZW08T9LJC5UK0G64F4EKV6R0R50IX5YTC3166669557Z9NC8B5DDQ357WUJX&cbSearchAgain=true

  17. NoMeatNoDairyNoProblem says:

    Smells exactly like the 28 pages bullsh!t.
    Attempting to quell the public’s strong suspicion of conspiracy with the revelation of a manufactured conspiracy that supports current CIA/Pentagon agendas and makes the CIA look like the good guys.

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