James Ellroy's "American Tabloid" - FLNWO #40

11/21/201628 Comments

This month on Film, Literature and the New World Order, James is joined by Prof CJ of the Dangerous History podcast to explore James Ellroy’s “American Tabloid.” What do you get when you have a novel with fictional FBI/CIA/Mafia/Anti-Castro Cuban stooges embroiled in a years-long mess that ends up with the assassination of the president? A more plausible scenario than 99% of the documentaries and books out there on the subject, that’s what. Find out more in this edition of FLNWO.


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Dangerous History Podcast Ep. 0117: Operation Underworld

Author James Ellroy on The Tavis Smiley Show 13 Oct 09

Watergate: 'Aviator' Connection?

James Ellroy's American Tabloid: Conspiracy Theory and Chaos Theory

Last month’s episode and comments: Being There

Next month: "And Then There Were None" by Eric Frank Russell

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  1. nosoapradio says:

    Ellroy mixes fact and fiction to denounce fiction in fact?

    5 parts, 5 years, 100 chapters, perhpas metric numerology could eek still more from this work?

    Holding up the magnetic tabloid stars,
    glittering out of elitest blue
    are the red stripes,
    the long bloody traces of wars, shadowy sacrifices
    and the common man’s blood
    that fertilized the wealth and power
    of Uncle Sam’s celluloid dream.

    Once there were Kennedys

    And then there were none…

    See you there!
    (having read the work this time!)

    • nosoapradio says:

      “By the Ellsberg Precept I mean the revelation that the timely disclosure of suppressed truth can bring about needed social change.”
      -Peter Dale Scott

      “…In 2008, Daily Variety reported that HBO, along with Tom Hanks’s production company, Playtone, were developing American Tabloid and The Cold Six Thousand for either a mini-series or ongoing series…”


  2. sjbecker999 says:

    The Rolling Stones got it right back in 1968 when they wrote Sympathy For The Devil,
    “I shouted out,
    Who killed the Kennedys?
    When after all
    It was you and me.”

  3. VoiceOfArabi says:

    What hit me the most in this episode is the word “compartmentalize”

    I have heard it before many times, but this is the first time that I managed to link it to all the trouble we have in the world.

    There is a good article on this topic that I suggest everyone reads on this link http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanblair/2012/06/26/5-steps-of-compartmentalization/#28c2c3654b2b

    “Psychology defines compartmentalization as a defense mechanism, or a coping strategy, which doesn’t impart a very good connotation. Put simply, it’s how our minds deal with conflicting internal standpoints simultaneously. Some examples would be: a doctor who is religious, but has to separate her belief system from her practice at a women’s health clinic; a man who leaves his office at 6pm, and refuses to think about work for the rest of the evening, so he can enjoy his time with his family or, at its extreme, soldiers who need to file away the trauma of horrific events in their minds, so they can continue operating in battle.”

    This is obviously one of the key “weapons” the “powers that shouldn’t be” is using very effectively, and explains how majority of people are sleep walking into their own enslavement.

    We, at Corbertt, should really focus on this topic, and to bringing it to light, and to find ways of exposing it and “fixing” it or having solutions to look beyond it, and allow others to look behind the curtains.

    I think the big change over the last 100 years is… “Psychology”. They have studied us, and now know exactly how to control us.

    • nosoapradio says:

      Very interesting VoiceOfArabi. As it can be induced on the micro-psychological level it can be enacted on the macro-societal level… hence… events like 9/11…?

  4. Nevertheless says:

    I don’t buy the organized crime narrative because it stands alone as major crime.

    This IS about Zionism, Federal Reserve, CIA, MIC…crime give me a break.

    What is naive is the idea that history started with America, and the idea that Americans are somehow worse than anyone else, “started on the Mayflower”.

    Such evil is far more long lived than America’s short existence.

    Iraq, 9/11, Afghanistan, Russia, Kiev…nothing to do with the freaking mafia, but all have aspects of Zionism, globalism…

    I remember watching the Oliver Stone movie about JFK, his focus on the mafia, and while I don’t know the truth, I DO KNOW, if it were the truth, it would NOT COME OUT OF HOLLYWOOD, period.

  5. Nevertheless says:

    Today Washington is run by Zionism, that is indisputable. The think tanks, the lobbyists, AIPAC by far the most powerful lobby, the media, Wall Street, The Federal Reserve, Hollywood/entertainment…the point is, this control did not happen overnight. We are not in the Middle East, or at odds with Russia because Americans don’t like these groups, but because war mongering Zionists don’t.

    Every-time you peal away the layers of the onion, you find Zionism.

    Even with Kennedy, the strong connection with Federal Reserve policy (Executive Order-11110) and JFK’s policy with Israel regarding its nuclear weapons, is profound, yet often never discussed in the MSM, and not here either it seems…why?

    • nosoapradio says:

      Much of what you wrote resonates with me (I realize that I also mean your comment about the Newsbud roundtable discussion) but why do you say Israel is at odds with Russia and couldn’t the mafia play an on the ground role for the Zionists for example the role the Corsicans played in the French connection (shortly after the Kennedy assassination)?

      • VoiceOfArabi says:

        Hello Nevertheless and nosoapradio,

        I am really puzzled why so many people keep pointing the finger at Zionism or Israel.

        Unless i am very much mistaken, Zionism as movement emerged around late 1880, and Israel was not created until 1940’s.

        Our trouble with “The Powers that Shouldn’t be” started much more before that. (eg. India was enslaved 400 years before that. They were “forcefully” selling drugs to China during the opium wars, etc)

        I don’t doubt that both Zionism and Israel are tools that been used to achieve tasks here and there, but they are just the symptoms, and not the real problem. What we are doing here is just like blaming a gun or a knife for someones murder.

        but I suppose this is part of the issue i started on my post above… it is “compartmentalize” in action.. it has the power to satisfy and to blind us at the same time.

        MSM job is “not” just to misinform us.. their real job is to stop us seeing the BIG PICTURE.

        • VoltaicDude says:

          I often wonder the same thing VoiceOfArabi. $4Billion+ and a continual folding-in of the ever-more privatized Mil-Ind-Complex between inter-national (U.S./Israeli) Mil-Ind corporations.

          Blaming “Israel” and Zionism is a bit like thinking that the commanding officer of Guantanamo is the big bad meany that independently defies Obama on closing the facility, and that that is not part of some more centralized, deep state, shadow government, corporatist policy. Or maybe like missing the point that the Third Reich was financed into being by the same banksters that spun-out Israel.

          Economic warfare is a reality that should not be underestimated in its malicious effect and import and likewise serves as an example of how neither should “diplomatic warfare” be similarly underestimated.

          It’s easier to structure such “diplomatic warfare’ when you’ve factionalized your own assets into “independent nations.”

          At the small-picture level a “legitimizing” logic spontaneously emerges from the altered international playing field.

          But still it’s all just the deep state machinations of Empire, which includes all the usual intrigue and infighting that goes along with court-life.

          What absolutely surprises me every time is that so many people can hear this sort of explanation of things and immediately revert to weird anti-Jewish rhetoric, just as so many people also revert to weird anti-Islamic rhetoric at the drop of a hat (of course much of that is also constructively led by provocateurs).

          That’s part of what keeps the-powers-that-shouldn’t-be in business. They exploit this social failing to the hilt and squelch intelligent consideration.

          Think of the historical ramifications here, branching-out monstrously in every direction. Onlookers that don’t question the very substrate we employ even just rhetorically become locked into a vortex that in the moment of a panic makes pawns of them.

      • Nevertheless says:

        I commented below.

        It is not to say Zionists/Jews were not solely responsible, but to leave them out of the conversation all together is ridiculous. Was it not a Jew who killed Lee Harvey Oswald. The fact that Jews and Zionism is left out of so much conspiracy often points to controlled dissent…Give people a believable lie…But just like ISIS, the EU, The color Revolutions, Central Banking, Wall Street, Hollywood, Washington, and even Marxism, Communism, Capitalism…Jews are extremely involved, yet only presented in the most flattering light, no matter what that points to their true power, because like the US Liberty, when you can get away with such destruction (who was the force behind the Iraq war but neo-con and neo liberal Zionists), and never be questioned, means they have real control.

  6. pierre_lefeuvre says:

    Very disappointed from this episode, You and your interlocutor seems to be afraid of digging for the truth. JFK was threatening israhell from developing the nuclear option. Further more JFK was preparing to use Silver to back the $$$, anathema to Rothschild and the central banks.
    Please revisit the murder of JFK in a more critical view.

    • Nevertheless says:

      THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      It just shocks me how people with such obvious motives and a track history, going back centuries of active involvement in world history.

      I mean even Lincoln was most likely assassinated by Central banking Zionist interests.We know they were active in WW1, with the Jewish boycott, slavery, usury, Wall Street…I mean Kagan, Krystal, Pearl…all monsters of war in Washington ALL ZIONISTS…”but they would never do anything untoward”.

      The reality is, what we don’t know about these people is worse than what we do, and what we do know is they have had their hands in so much evil, including 9/11, the Iraq war, the Syria war, and the aggression towards Russia.

      And as I said before, Israel coincidentally is the center for businesses that do cyber security and spying, they are the ones teaching American police how to be tyrannical bullies…

      It is difficult to write about this because there is so much to write about, that is why I am always against when they is at least not a mention of Zionist/Jewish influence in such events as JFK’s murder.

      • VoiceOfArabi says:

        Hi Nevertheless…

        ABRAHAM LINCOLN assassination (1865)

        First Zionist Congress & Basel Program (1897)

        At least do some research to gain some respect…. That’s just lazy…

        To give you the benefit of the doubt.. I think you are mixing Jews with Zionism.

        Not all Jews are Zionist.

        • Nevertheless says:

          Zionist is 2000 years old…

          And the fight to develop central banking was around for quite some time.

          Don’t patronize me, I never said all Jews were Zionists, Jews are often the scapegoat of Zionists. Zionists are atheist Jews who bring down all Judaism and western civilization with them. Jews do benefit form their relationship to some degree, but pay in the long run, but not as much as the Middle East.

          • VoiceOfArabi says:

            Hi Nevertheless…

            When you say “Zionists are atheist Jews”…

            It shows your lack of knowledge.

            Atheist is = a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

            Jewish as Religion = “respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods”

            So, as you can see the two terms contradict.

            and Just for your information. There are more Zionist who belong to Christianity and other religions than Jews.

            So, my point is, stop dividing us based on religion or race, and keep focusing on who is trying to enslave us. Israel (and Zionists world wide) are just a tool used to enslave us. they could have been Muslims or Buddhist, and still be executing for the US of A.

  7. Nevertheless says:

    Seriously disappointed in the comments here. The disconnect between the power of Israel/Jews over America and the west is shocking. How anyone could wonder why to point to Israel, is exactly why the finger needs to be pointed at Israel. It may not be all about Israel, but the fact that they are totally left out of the conversation is exactly why they need to be brought in.

    The whole Rothschild thing news to you all, Central Banking, Hollywood, K-Street, AIPAC, Hollywood/Media…I know many would rather just point to random events that are unique to themselves, and think such collusion and conspiracies are too far fetched to be true…but that shows an incredible ignorance of history.

    History paints the Zionists/Jews in a most favorable light, when in reality they were very active in slavery and war mongering, as well as usury and with total control over US media and entertainment…and you wonder WHY question Zionism, I question how you could not.

    You point to the MIC, as if the MIC and Zionism are mutually exclusive.

    I would also point to the reality that the internet is threatening the globalist/zionist propaganda, and coincidentally Israel is the focal point of many of the worst spying and internet controlling companies…Israel is training US police, I mean, what piece are you missing?

    The name George Soros, Heim Saban, Sheldon Adleson, and so many more, meaningless to you? Ignorance is not bliss.

    • VoiceOfArabi says:

      Hi Nevertheless,

      I am sure you mean well, but your statement and action is helping the other side….

      According to you.. “yeah, let us burn the Jews, and when we finish, let us burn the Muslims, and the Roman Church and after that, let us kill the gays, and the bisexuals and the blacks, and finally, let us kill anyone using their left hand!!”

      That divide and conquer talk only helps the Powers that shouldn’t be, so I can only assume you are paid by them…

      I think there is a group of people that is currently hijacking the world, but they have no religious, colour or any other affiliation apart from their objective, which seems to be, rule the whole planet.

      • Nevertheless says:

        You are dishonest and likely hasbara…I never said anything about “burning” anyone, but the fact that is where you go, instead of addressing the points I made, means you are a manipulator and a liar.

        I am not here to “mean well” I am here to discuss the truth and your “Voice Of Arabia”, moniker denotes typical Zionist deception.

        So hear is a question for you, if I am being paid, who would be paying me? As for you, we know Hasbara filth slither through the internet, George Soros does indeed pay them/you, so who would pay me?

        And divide and conquer, that’s rich, you mean like open border, where Zionists like the “Gang of 8” US senators are all APIAC stooges, pushing for open borders in America, the same immigrants who beat up Trump supporters carrying signs that say “Stop the Hate”…George Soros and his ilk, Zionists. It the Muslims fighting the Christians, Russia vs America, but I don’t see Israel anywhere in there. How about Hollywood making movie after movie about slavery, hyping up racial hate, but leaving out how Jews were very active in the slave trade…is that your divide and conquer?

        Honestly, your a waste of time, if you want to argue facts, go right ahead, but character assignation is indeed the preview of the Zionists, and is exactly what American politics is all about, now in Europe and the Middle East…


        • VoiceOfArabi says:

          hahahahah… Hi again Nevertheless, (your post above made me laugh. You are very passionate about this topic, and it is always good to be passionate (not necessarily smart, but good).

          Just to clarify few things….

          I am VoiceOfArabi, and I am proud to be that. My points of view are all the things i have learnt through life.

          I am not a “hasbara” and i did not know what it meant until i googled it. So, it is PR dept for Israel.. of course they need PR Dept for all the ethnic cleansing and killing they are doing to the Arabs. (but thank you for teaching me the term hasbara)

          again, I still think you mean well, but you have not “seen” the full picture yet. You have figured out the game, but you are confusing who is pulling the strings.

          Try to view some of Bill Cooper’s work for extra angles.

  8. Sambuca says:

    I would say that everyone is some form of gatekeeper, in that one tries to protect and disseminate their own philosophy and world view.
    I always say that the best “movie” on the JFK assassination isn’t even about it! While it is partially tongue and in cheek, is also isn’t. The movie Thirteen Days, with Kevin Costner is great. You get a look into JFK’s mindset, in that he is surrounded by a bunch of total lunatics! There are quite a few “WTF” moments for him, esp the nuke that we tested and the DEFCON being upped without consulting him. Particularly interesting is the scene where McGeorge Bundy tries to play go-between with the Kennedys(Costner playing Kenny O’Donnell) and the Joint Chiefs. After all, it was Bundy, NOT JFK who cancelled the air cover during the Bay of Pigs.
    I’m currently watching a fascinating course by (Jesuit!?) Daniel Sheehan. It is primarily a course on the 30 to 50 families running the US, since the Civil War. I started on Lecture 3, but after 2 lectures decided to download it and stick it on a USB drive so I can watch it on the big screen. There is a lot of focus om JFK as that is the intersection of a lot of things. I haven’t finished it, but it is a pretty coherent attempt to explain everything from the robber barons down to today. I skipped the first 2 lectures, but whenever I’m done, I’ll go back and watch the whole thing. It’s highly recommended and I’m not looking for anyone to say “that’s wrong, watch this or read this instead.”
    Rather, it is a great explanation of Worldview Global Politics. It isn’t without a bias, here or there, but overall it is really convincing.

  9. VoiceOfArabi says:

    Hi James,

    Would you consider the movie Now You See Me (2013) for FLNWO future discussion.

    I have a new policy. whenever i see a movie that is popular and doesn’t make sense.. then I am intrigued..

    When I google this movie.. I got..


    Question: Is it a recruitment film??

  10. In my little hermit bipolar life I tend to alternate between alt-news-media and pop-media. I love both. I used to read a LOT but now am consumed by the internet. I loved reading Dumas, Hesse, Flemming, Herbert, Brautigan, Douglas Coupland, Calvino, Neal Stephenson, etc etc etc, just to list a few consistent faves. I’m thrilled to see some represented here. I have two proposals/requests.

    This may be more difficult to critique:
    I loved swashbuckler movies and their classic novels which were often better than their movie adaptations – but I loved comparing them. Ivanhoe, Cyrano, Romeo & J, Quixote, Scaramouche, to Barry Lyndon. I wonder if you or any members have any recommendations in this vein and/or could find a way to apply your brilliant geopolitical analysis on anything related. Alexander Dumas from Cristo to Black Tulip to the Musketeers seems to be the most intelligent but popular classic/romantic/adventure/swashbuckler novelist that I can recall with deeper understanding of Euro-politics with very accessible stories. (Also, FYI, Stanley Kubrick’s Napoleon script is easily found to download read, and/or comment on.)

    This will be easy to critique:
    Between Bladerunner and Firefly there was my FAVOURITE television show:

    // // // MAX HEADROOM // // //

    I was a teenager in LOVE with this show that was way ahead of it’s times, not just the “20 minutes in the future”. Everything from Network 23 (an Illuminati number) to Blank Reg (an illegal citizen without a number) to Blipverts (hyper-compressed advertising that made some people explode) to Max (a trans-human artificial intelligence escaped into the net) and on and on and on. First it was a movie, then a television series, and there were ad campaigns and music videos, etc. Sadly the TV show is only in standard definition and most episodes are/were on YouTube and torrented. I must confess that when I watch it now the acting is a bit stiffer than I remember and the humour is far more campy than I now prefer, but in those days there just wasn’t very much good sci-fi, much less dedicated channels and a YouTube full of it. Max Headroom was sooo far ahead of its time but it’s cautionary tales are still relevant, almost like “1984”, but way too overlooked. Fellow Canadian Matt Frewer plays Edison Carter and Max Headroom who’s based on a brain scan of Edison – who is a truth telling investigative reporter – not unlike our own hero, James Corbett. Please INVESTIGATE!!!

  11. bcrsmith says:

    I’d love to see a book like this written about OKC and 9/11. Who would be more qualified to do it than James?

  12. fiftyquint says:

    Before either one of you begin writing an historical fiction on 9/11, I will stress for the third time here at Corbett Report, that you read the already published series by Rebekah Roth. For the life of me, I cannot understand your continued ignoring of this remarkable work and what it has exposed through documentation and FOIA data.

  13. tluca says:

    For anyone who needs a ling to JFK to 9/11, It’s all a rich man’s trick.

  14. JadeEyes says:

    I FINALLY read this book. I cut my Ellroy teeth on “LA Confidential” a year ago, and thanks to you, JC, I read this one. All I can say is this: Even in the realm of fiction, I have TONs yet to learn about human nature and personal motivation. I felt like a hot shower after each chapter. A very good book, no matter how unpleasant and/or shocking. Gratitude to you.

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