Interview 1280 – James Corbett on Taking the 9/11 Red Pill

06/09/201766 Comments

via 911FreeFall.com: Host Andy Steele is joined by independent journalist James Corbett and by AE911Truth CEO Richard Gage, AIA, to discuss 9/11’s impact on American society and the road forward for the truth movement. They also talk about their upcoming presentations at the Red Pill Expo in Bozeman, MT, on June 23rd and 24th.

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  1. doublek321 says:

    Great episode! I want to bring up one point for public discussion though (and, ideally, hear a response from Richard Gage):

    If “regular office fires” can cause a 47 story steel-framed high rise build to collapse into dust in 7 seconds, wouldn’t that cause a complete “rethink” of the idea of building a high-rise building in the first place? And wouldn’t the fire codes have changed to not allow people to live/work above a certain floor (or more specifically “height”)? Certainly the building of the Freedom Tower wouldn’t make any sense!

    It seems to me like it could potentially be a really effective approach to get a group of protesters together to demand these changes. The beauty of this is that you can include people who completely believe the official story. It would just be a group of concerned citizens demanding a “sane rethink”.

  2. doublek321 says:

    Also, Richard, I have a question about the front page of “ae911Truth.org”. I’m wondering why the “Explosive Evidence” video isn’t on the front page (ideally front and center).

    People always accuse “9/11 truthers” of being “tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists”. If I post your website URL online, it seems to me like it would be most effective for people who click it to immediately see a video of people qualified to discuss the subject (architects and engineers) questioning the official story. After that, ideally they’ll click on other links at the site (and hopefully donate and pass along the link).

    Note that I realize I can just post a YouTube link to your videos but that would mean putting the video (and comments) in YouTube’s hands. Plus it seems like it would be better for people to already be on your site (where they can click other links). Maybe that would cost more money to have more users and display a long video? If so, maybe a compromise would be to post a YouTube embedded video to allow users to watch the video at your site while not costing you guys extra money?

    Thoughts?

  3. jennerclay says:

    Richard Gage blew his “disinfo” cover when
    he refused to even DISCUSS Judy Wood’s
    hypothesis with attendees at one of his
    conferences. Given that Wood has more
    credentials (Ph.D. in mechanical engineering,)
    then Gage, he should have at least been
    willing to have a discussion about the pros
    and cons of each of of their respective
    theories. But, as far as I know, he has refused
    to debate the issue with her. Very suspicious
    in my book!

    • sullivan889 says:

      In my book also. To think that 56 years after dropping the atom bomb on innocent women,children and old people, the City of London has not developed advanced weaponry is somewhat ludicrous. My only comparison would be that Chem-trails are just crop dusters. To dismiss Judy Woods on the face and fail to recognize an alternative theory could exist makes me question Mr. Gage’s reasoning.

      Money talks and Bull Shit Walks.

      The people with the money do NOT want even a minuscule of the truth in the discussion.

      To think that 9/11 was not a message to the leadership of the powers who shouldn’t be would be somewhat of a misconception. If you only had ONE intelligent Scientist in your country you could ascertain what took place on 9/11. This was a message for the entire world. Ask Japan!

      Like all the other False Flags; Spanish American War, WW I, WW II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraqi Freedom, the list goes on and on, two time Congressional Medal of Honor recipient, General Smedley Butler stated, “War is a Racket”. He gave us the warning. Unfortunately no one paid attention.

      I recently visited Arlington Cemetery. For their sacrifice we must somehow find the courage to stop their insanity.

      I don’t believe, “The Donald” was ever the answer. I hope and pray that the Red Pill Expo might help us find the way.

      Good Luck,

      TheLeosman

    • 4TLeser says:

      I think it is a bit unfair to accuse Richard Gage of being “disinfo” .

      As far as I understand Richard’s headed organization questions the NIST report and the omission of Building #7 in respect to design and engineering aspects; it is a no-brainer to see the obvious hiding and ignoring of facts and realistic circumstances.

      Forces as Judy Wood describes may very well be part of the in advance prepared instant demolition and I understand Richard not extending him self any further as he already done.

      As a “Truther” it is not recommended to cover the whole plethora of what is wrong by over extending into related topics. This overwhelms and cuts short any awaking interest.

      Less is better. It is more important to help raise awareness of one selfs basic character makeup and the willingness to open ones mind.

      It must also be understood that most professionals are members of not only professional associations and other organization, “Service clubs”, masonic and related lodges and are bound to adhere as I personally observed among those being associated to them.

      The network of evil can go deep into many areas in our society and prevent openness, honesty and truth. Deceit is rampant in a closed system and if some topics untouched the compromise we all have to live under.

      • john k says:

        I agree with you, 4T. Gage is staying within his area of expertise. There is more than enough evidence to support the controlled demolition theory of wtc7.

        Even though Gage is not willing to accept Wood’s theory, it doesn’t mean that elements of Wood’s proposal didn’t happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if several “mass experiments” were being done simultaneously. In fact, that would be expected, since the whole site was going to be demolished, with all evidence removed.

        What happened to WTC6? Was that done by explosives? Fire? HAARP? Falling debris?

        Is it possible that BOTH Gage and Wood are correct, and that neither has the role of providing “disinfo”, (dispite neither accepting the other’s claims)?

        Gage has too much perspiration to be disinfo.

        • HomeRemedySupply says:

          I like the phrasing… Gage has too much perspiration to be disinfo.

        • herrqlys says:

          john k – you make a really good point here about the significance of WTC7:
          “I wouldn’t be surprised if several “mass experiments” were being done simultaneously. In fact, that would be expected, since the whole site was going to be demolished, with all evidence removed.”

          I’ve never watched any Rosie O’Donnell, so I don’t have a dog in that fight, but this article links her ennumeration of the types of records that were destroyed in the WTC7 building collapse:

          http://www.wnd.com/2007/03/40684/

          The title of the article is misleading, as Enron is only one of many subjects for which legal investigative documents were destroyed. And this fact adds to my list of the large number of objectives coalesced in the planning for 9/11.

          I just recently added the storage, in the one (or both) of the WTC basements, of the missing gold originally pledged to underwrite the Government of China’s 1913 gold loan bond issue. The gold supporting this bond issue, bonds that have not yet been cancelled, has a really incredible history. It is possible that part of China’s current gold accumulation is related to discharging these bonds, in the process of being fully legally accepted into the international financial system.

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      jennerclay,
      I have been involved with 9/11 Truth strongly since 2005 following it daily. I well remember when Judy Wood came on the scene. The history and backstory gives a person keen insight on what is really going on. And yes, I also have looked strongly into what she has to say, her “evidence”, etc.

      Hijackers of the 9/11 Movement.
      If you want to get an overview tidbit of the hijacking history of Judy Wood (and Fetzer and the CIA agent Morgan Reynolds), give this a read.
      http://911blogger.com/news/2008-11-16/my-really-really-bad-judy-wood-experience

      There is much more ugly stuff. Much, much more. It will be up to you to really look into it.

      Read about the fabrications that Judy Wood presents. (Richard Gage’s Ae911truth website)
      http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/505-ae911truth-faq-6-whats-your-assessment-of-the-directed-energy-weapon-dew-hypothesis.html

      And there is much more data on Judy Wood’s charade available on the internet if you are interested in getting the real scoop.
      Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qYm1AnUKi8

      You can search “Judy Wood” at 911blogger and also at Ae911truth.org.

      Jeremy Rys debunks Judy Woods big time. Judy Woods has been one of the more destructive forces for the 9/11 Movement in credible presentations to new public.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg8WFmAJQhg
      http://911blogger.com/news/2016-09-02/what-real-911-investigation-would-reveal

      Dr Steven Jones was directly affected by the Judy Wood/Fetzer/Morgan Reynolds hijacking. He has some excellent scientific papers which debunk her work.

      Richard Gage is not “disinfo”.
      I remember when he came on the scene and helped him recruit when he had less than 400 architects & engineers signed up.
      The Judy Wood thing has been thoroughly and scientifically addressed, repeatedly.

      There is nothing to be suspicious about…
      …except for the fact that there continues to be promotion of Judy Wood on the internet.
      This is what the Government Troll boiler room probably looks like… (90 seconds) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EufH0T196bY

    • dobsy says:

      Dr Wood raises many good questions but seems to reach far out conclusions that exclude other conclusions that are supported by peer reviewed papers published in the Open Chemical Physics Journal and more plausible scenarios based on known processes, like controlled demolitions. You are right though that her ideas should be considered but not allowed to obfuscate.

      • herrqlys says:

        Yes, I find that Judy Wood’s dissertations are obfuscational, and also find this to be intentional. Just enough good sense to get some rational traction, but discrediting other valuable points by omission. Sneaky science warfare.

  4. VoltaicDude says:

    The world will be increasingly grateful to everyone leading on 911 Truth – my own deep felt thanks to all of you.

    The Red Pill Expo is a great development. I hope it be available afterwards to everyone online – Mockingbird is mudding a lot of the work available and solid info sources that bring lots of investigative perspectives together is essential. I don’t believe any governmental body will be doing that in earnest.

    It seems people like Tom Keane and Christine Todd Whitman were probably not directly involved with the incidents leading to 911, but they went along with the ridiculous official story and covered for it afterwards. It seems almost impossible that all of us could be aware of the facts as we’re discussing them, but people like the Clinton’s and Obama and Biden could somehow still be in the dark about these facts. However each of these people might excuse their lying about this, being an accessory after the fact does not usually motivate people to suddenly want to have the whole truth come out.

    Probably people here are already aware of this doc, but I think it bears mentioning again:
    The New American Century – Top Documentary Films
    http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com/new-american-century/

    “Iraq II was because of 911” – that’s their lie. 911 was a “densely” motivated, very sophisticated action. It was designed with quite a few motivations in mind. More accurately: 911 was because of Iraq II – a war pre-planned well before 911 (just as Iraq I had been pre-planned before H.W.’s administration finally came about, an earlier version of that administration having been aborted when the Lennon/Reagan hits failed to complete properly).

    In Feb 2001 Cheney claimed “executive privilege” to protect the secrecy of his meeting with Enron’s CEO Ken Lay. Meanwhile the Patriot Act, establishing the total violation of the average citizen’s privacy was being penned. 911 was also because of the Patriot Act, as well as the legal cases against Enron which were being led from offices in Building 7.

    Then there’s the Pentagon, and the offices from which the audit on Defense expenditures was being conducted. 911 was because of the audit.

    Obviously the list goes on, but I know I’m preaching to the choir.

    As far as activism goes, my own experience is that the climate is only getting hotter (ha ha). I hope you’re all being extra careful about Bozeman and everything else. Remember, “They” never sleep. As we get closer to some critical mass they will respond with more decisive “tricks” against us – a euphemism if there ever was one. I’m an old materialist, but figuratively “shape-shifters” is a very accurate term.

    Another thing to remember is that “they” will generally not call attention to the areas they’re working on if possible. For instance, who remembers that Donald Rumsfeld started his association with the executive office heading the Office of Economic Opportunity in Nixon’s administration?

    Finally, I also like this video:
    Ed Asner Talks About 9/11 Truth
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27ZoPexYsbs

    • herrqlys says:

      Your well reasoned thoughts registered better with me the second time around. Perhaps that’s because I’m more into a 9/11 mood today. There are so many topics to consider these days – do we have enough emotional shades to deal with them all?

      Speaking of Ken Lay. He sure seemed in tight with Dick “tricks” Cheney. It crossed my mind, given all the perfidy in those days, that he didn’t ‘die’ as we were told. Maybe he didn’t even ‘die’ at all, but was merely given an opportunity at another life, one hiding in luxury along with his secrets.

  5. khalil.shalash says:

    I don’t think Monckton is a good invitation, but whatever.

  6. taoss says:

    I always find it interesting to hear when a person woke up to the idea that the official story about 9-11 is not true and what happened to cause their awakening.

    Since the early 1980’s, before anyone had home computers, I spent a lot of my time reading conspiracy books that were considered “underground publications”. These were books like “Behold A Pale Horse” by William Cooper (published in 1991), and others along those lines. I had already learned that all my high school history courses taught inaccurate information and I thanked my lucky stars that I had found those classes too boring to pay much attention, thus I did not “benefit” from the programming. After graduation I began my own studies in history which I found much more interesting as well as outrageously filled with corruption and fraud.

    So, on the day of 9-11-2001, as we all watched our computer screens in horror, I asked a structural engineer colleague friend to take a break with me. As we waited for the elevator to arrive, I whispered to him, “I have an awful feeling that we had something to do with this.” He replied, “So do I but let’s not talk about this in front of others, at least for now.” When I saw other co-workers mulling speechlessly around the courtyard as though they were in a trance, waiting for the dust to settle seemed like a good idea to me too.

    The DVD “In Plane Sight” was the first video I watched on the 9-11 conspiracy and I passed it along to some of my colleagues at work when it came out in 2008. It was this movie that started me on a direct path of searching for more on 9-11 and passing it along to everyone I knew. Back then most of my friends, family and colleagues thought I was crazy for even entertaining the notion that our government would lie to us or have anything to do with something as awful as this event. Thankfully, most all of them now have opened their minds.

    The Red Pill Expo sounds like it will be excellent, and I’m glad James Corbett is one of the speakers.

  7. herrqlys says:

    The continual, disjointed events of terror, war, and fake news – stemming largely from justifications started by 9/11 – are tactics of dissimulation. By doing only a piecemeal analysis of the singular events, without linking to any others, the MSM’s role is to create a sense of confusion in the public consciousness, while reinforcing the official narrative of explanation.

    Counteracting this propaganda demands an ability to see through the lies, then connecting the dots and perceiving the patterns, which then can reveal the deceit.

    The grooming of racism and other divisions in the population, and providing temptations for greed and moral apathy are part of the tactics to prevent the truth, the first casualty of war, from being discoverd.

    The intensified attempts to control the internet, and the competing narratives being spawned there, are now being blatantly pursued to continue the withholding of information that would enable that discovery.

  8. PeaceFroggs says:

    (Sept 11th 2001 – 2017 = 16 years) Has it been 16 years already?
    Man, time flies.

    I highly doubt that this conference or future conferences will bring about subpoenas, arrest warrants, trials and/or convictions. However I do believe having these types of conferences every so often is of great importance nonetheless, because they help give young people that weren’t here 16+/- years ago, a glimpse into understanding the world in which they live.

    Also, important to remember that many “Truthers” have already past away and moved on, yet their work lives on thanks to the Internet. People like Bill Cooper, Eustace Mullins, Gary Webb etc…

    The Internet is helping keep these types of memories alive, something the MSM could control by memory hole, our collective consciousness by simply diverting our attention by giving us more bread and circuses.

    As far as it is important to reflect on the past and keep these truths alive, I believe that it is just as important, maybe even more so, to live in the present, because so much of what is happening today is a direct result of what happened that day 16 years ago.

    Lastly, we not only need to stay vigilant and skeptical of the MSM, but also of “truther” media, because I believe some are nefarious Pied Pipers. Trump being a perfect example of such a person, usurping a movement in order to sheep dip its followers.

  9. nosoapradio says:

    What stuck with me was this tragic notion that those who’ve not yet taken a moment to look the monster in the eyes by now, 16 years later,

    never will…

    as if they’ve received an ambient homeopathic dose of doubt laced with stigmatization from the media and social circles

    and are now profoundly, irreparably vaccinated against entertaining any “alternative” version of the event, the leucocytes and macrophage of their psyche violently rejecting and obliterating any notion

    suggesting that Big Daddy could possibly ever murder his own children for some more cynical personal gain…

    They’ve been vaccinated against doubt like those poor Kenyan women who’d received Tetanus shots are now vaccinated against pregnancy…

    • Mark44 says:

      What stuck with me was this tragic notion that those who’ve not yet taken a moment to look the monster in the eyes by now, 16 years later,

      never will…

      as if they’ve received an ambient homeopathic dose of doubt laced with stigmatization from the media and social circles

      I confess I came very late to the 9/11 party as well.
      We all have our own personal reasons for this.

      Unfortunately I couldn’t ever convince my dad about the 9/11 truth before he passed away last summer.

      My older brother is extremely intelligent. He reads voraciously.
      Devouring hundreds of books a year.

      Somehow 9/11 came up in a brief conversation a few months ago after he scoffed at me for not believing the lone JFK assassin story. Soon after he scoffed at me for not believing the Osama-19-hijacker story.

      I asked him if he had read books or done research into 9/11.
      He said he had. A few minutes later I decided to test whether he was telling the truth or not, for I suspected he hadn’t.

      I asked him how many towers came down on 9/11?
      When he said “Two”, that was all I needed to hear.

      Needless to say I have my work cut out for me. 🙁

      • nosoapradio says:

        Well Mark44,

        I sure can relate. No fun losing your Dad. No fun coming to terms with 9/11. And no fun being scoffed at.

        My dad died two years ago on the spring equinox right during the solar eclipse… I thought that was really classy…

        he used to, in his early career as an economist, travel around the country lecturing on the Federal Reserve…

        My true regret has been that I never managed to have a real discussion with him about the Creature from Jekyll Island… I made some tentative attempts but despite his admirable intelligence, humanism and characteristic curiosity, he rejected out of hand that the Federal Reserve was anything but Federal…

        Some truly lovable people have a voracious need to maintain their consensual view of the world.

        Others are less voraciously hermetic.

        Also, as you may already know, people are sensitive to the kind of emotion and energy that accompany the message.

        I don’t know if this is your case, but, at first, before I’d fully accepted the horror and terrifying implications of 9/11 (Despite outer appearences, I think I needed years before I could speak about it truly calmly), I would inadvertently impart to people my horror and grief when describing the incident. This made it virtually impossible to communicate effectively on the subject. I may have looked poised, I may even have been smiling, but my horror was palpable.

        My brother-in-law is a NYC cop who truly has ‘no patience’ for”outlandish conspiracy theories” and my sister informed me that if I persisted in trying to broach the subject with her personally by email, she would cease interacting with me at all.

        Forget about exploring the subject with voraciously unreceptive people. They probably can’t handle it, which is understandable.

        Crazy how smoking gun WTC7 is still unknown to the majority though…

        Sometimes even more fascinating than the event, are people’s reactions to the event…

        • herrqlys says:

          It’s actually quite scary how deeply the psychological coverup ministrations have been placed in some people’s minds. On the flip side, though, once you’ve glimpsed through the layers of deception, you never revert back to being part of the sheeple flock.

      • PeaceFroggs says:

        Mark44,

        Sometimes knowledge can be used against us.

        I tend to believe that the people that were behind the Sept 11th attacks have been able to use 9/11 truth as a sort of recruiting tool in the middle east. This allowed them to recruit even more “terrorists” (brainwashed patsies), and expand into Libya and Syria, and keep the war on terror ongoing, thereby fomenting hatred of Muslims here in the West.

        Pretty sure those ISIS idiots know 911 was an inside job, and were told: “see, this proves America is Satan, they attacked themselves in order to attack Muslims, how devilish is that!”

        ….Not realizing that their own governments were in on it too, and are the ones actually supporting and funding them!

        So now, these brainwashed idiots have been thought to attack the West, when in fact it was us, the West, that exposed elements within our own governments as the real culprits behind 9/11. See how twisted this has become?

        So maybe your Dad and brother are right after all, ignorance is bliss.

        By the way, I was watching CNN the other day, and they were showing a documentary about the JFK assassination, and in on clip they were interviewing people in NYC after the Warren report and one lady knew it was the CIA all along, this was in late 60’s.

    • wingsuitfreak says:

      Yes. I remember realizing part of the truth many years ago. While I tried to “convert” others, I am a poor evangelical. Today, I think more of Plato’s analogy of a cave. Now that I am outside the cave, I am far less concerned about those inside of it. After all, they refuse to hear anything I say anyway. Instead, I am enjoying the scenery and am preparing the foundations of my own existence in the “light”.
      While it may be important to try and show others the way, I don’t feel it is my responsibility at all. I do appreciate those (like Mr. Corbett) who are able to do so, but it is not my skill set or desire. That’s the wonderful thing about anarchy; there is nothing that I must absolutely do which I do not want to do. Within reason, of course. I really enjoy reading these comments. Especially after having read those infamous comments one constantly finds in the YouBoob comment sections! Those will turn anyone into a eugenicist!

      • HomeRemedySupply says:

        Ha…that last line.

      • herrqlys says:

        You write well, and your cave analogy is apt. Yes, there is satisfaction in marching to your own drumbeat.

        I’m probably a lone wolf because I tend to look askance at “what everyone else believes”, although maybe skeptic or cynical better describes me. A thing I’m not is a “show me the money” type, which can cause some personal angst in a consumer society.

        Regarding the comment sections on YouTube, I agree, but you can find gold nuggets from time to time. Some people simply haven’t yet found an appropriate forum to voice their insight.

  10. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Andy Steele references Corbett’s “Only 9/11 Truth Can Smash The 9/11 Lies”
    link – https://www.corbettreport.com/only-911-truth-can-smash-the-911-lies/

    911blogger references this episode with short CLASSIC VIDEOs
    http://911blogger.com/news/2017-06-10/911-free-fall-6817-james-corbett-and-richard-gage-aia

  11. doublek321 says:

    The high-rise building in London (Grenfell Tower) that went up in flames yesterday has now burned for over 12 hours and still hasn’t collapsed:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-14/it-just-went-fire-engulfs-london-apartment-block-least-6-dead

  12. herrqlys says:

    9/11 has become a parody.

    Despite the horror and human misery in the London Grenfell Tower inferno (at least six dead and more than 64 injured, 20 of them critically), a lot of very wry wit was on display in the comments section to that ZeroHedge article:

    Poster 1: “Expect it to give the jihadis ideas though when they realise that one fire killed more people than all the terror attacks in the UK this year.”
    Poster 2: “Hold thy horses, we may have had witnessed just the 1st terror strike of this kind 🙂 maybe they figure it out already and enacted it.”
    Poster 3: “Did they find a passport?”
    Poster 4: “They found a dual passport. That’s why you haven’t heard anything about it.”

  13. HomeRemedySupply says:

    June 13, 2017 (circulated in different publications)
    AP FACT CHECK: Fire, Not Demolition, Brought Down WTC Towers
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/06/13/us/ap-us-fact-check-wtc-collapse.html?_r=0
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/us/article/AP-FACT-CHECK-Fire-not-demolition-brought-down-11217220.php
    EXCERPT
    …Those who have shared conspiracy theories for years of controlled demolition insist that fires from the crashed planes couldn’t have caused the damage that led to the collapse of the towers and the third building, 7 World Trade Center, where debris landed and burned.

    But The National Institute of Standards and Technology, a government agency, found the fires were intense and widespread enough to cause the buildings’ collapse. It stands behind those findings.

    This story is part of an ongoing Associated Press effort to fact-check claims in suspected false news stories.

  14. HomeRemedySupply says:

    9/11 Free Fall Website
    June 18th – It seems that the website is gone.
    ?
    http://911freefall.com/
    “wildbill” pointed this out…
    http://911blogger.com/news/2017-06-10/911-free-fall-6817-james-corbett-and-richard-gage-aia

  15. HomeRemedySupply says:

    June 17, 2017
    On another note, it seems Jim Marrs (who lives in North Texas) is having some recent, grave body-health issues.
    Prayers or positive vibes are appreciated.

  16. mkey says:

    Once again I’d like to reiterate that there exists a video showing a giant tear in WTC7 caused by the collapsing WTC1. I’d like to link you to it, but attempts to find it on youtube haven’t been fruitful, if it’s even there any longer.

    To make a long story short, while WTC1 was going down, the upper part of the building fell at an angle and really tore up WTC7. From most shots you just see a lot of dust and smoke, from this one shot one could really get a great view of the event. I’m not an expert in architecture, but to my uneducated eye that gash seemed like something that was well beyond repair.

    The following video hints at this, but doesn’t feature the money shot I’m looking for.

    On 9/11, WTC1 Hit WTC7, Seriously Damaging the South Side
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK9MmoVaO5U

    The points I’m making are:

    1. out of all WTC buildings that fell that day, WTC7 probably had the best excuse to do so

    2. I don’t know how much time does one need to setup a “pull” of a building, but if we consider WTC7 was brought down intentionally be the fire department as to bring it down in a controlled fashion, then all of the WTC7 controversy is nothing but direct result of astroturfing and misdirection.

    Many people claim WTC7 is the stellar example, something completely breaking the narrative, however it may be nothing but a red herring, put there to cause confusion and spread misinformation.

    • herrqlys says:

      You make an interesting point, but that doesn’t explain why WTC7 was already rigged so that someone could “pull it”. A controlled demolition, especially for a building of this size, would take at least weeks or months to set up.

      Debris from WTC1 hitting WTC7 might just as easily be an unintended consequence.

      Larry Silverstein, who gave the pull order, is up to his eyeballs in retroactively suspicious activity involving the whole World Trade Center issue.

      • mkey says:

        Exactly why I find important to understand how long does it take to setup a “pull” and what does that move exactly consist of, especially if considering preexisting massive structural damage.

        I find that anything said by Silverstein is completely poisoned and can’t be used to follow through to a logical conclusion. If anything lands that guy in prison (here’s hoping) I don’t think it’s going to be over anything he said. That guy is a viper in guise of a snake.

        • HomeRemedySupply says:

          Larry Silverstein – The “lost” video where he specifically states “WTC 7 was a controlled demolition”

          Listen to Tony Szamboti and read the comments.
          http://911blogger.com/news/2014-12-02/tony-szamboti-nists-911-sins-omission
          There is a lot of information regarding this…other 911blogger threads…email back-n-forths… and people who worked on trying to get a copy of the Episode (which History’s Business – History Channel will not release).

          Geoffrey Wawro once worked with “History’s Business”. He now lives in North Texas. I contacted him in December 2014 to see if he or anyone he knew had a collection of videos. He responded: I’m afraid that I do not know…..too bad, as I agreee they were very interesting shows!
          (Many times home audiences would make a VHS copy of certain shows.)

          • mkey says:

            Well, I see that as further furthering of my point. More roundabouts, more loopholes, more wild goose chases. Again, in my eyes that man is a snake and clinging to anything he said is a step in the wrong direction if you ask me. I highly doubt a guy in that position would splurge anything on this elaborate scheme.

            Also, I have no trouble accepting that WTC7 was brought down in a controlled fashion, just in case my previous posts left such an erroneous impression. To that effect, if Silverstein did say that, he was saying the truth. Which naturally should be shocking. But, why obfuscate a truth? Simply put, to add more layers to the onion.

      • herrqlys says:

        But let me engage in some self-critique.

        There doesn’t appear to be any comment from NYFD sources that Silverstein’s instruction to them to “pull it” was considered a strange request. It is possible that every large building in downtown Manhattan, or in any other dense metropolis, is designed for controlled demolition in the event of a catastrophe. The collateral damage from an uncontrolled structural failure could be enormous to both lives and property. The underwriters would also have astronomical insurance liabilities.

        I also reference Dimitri Khazelov’s stating that when he was with the Soviet Union’s military nuclear intelligence section in the 1980s, they were aware that mini-nuke devices had been installed in the World Trade Center buildings for precisely such situations. This knowledge also supports his contention that it was a sub-basement mini-nuke detonation that removed a building’s core structural resistance, allowing free-fall of the subsequent floor-by-floor detonations of the exterior steel frame. The aircraft impacts were necessary to provide a public explanation, but also to create venting for the nuclear force wave.

        So, if the WTC buildings, in particular, had already been prepared in some ways for an emergency demolition, then the NY Fire Department, at some level, could be expected to have been given prior knowledge of these plans, and even be a party to their execution.

        Curiouser and curiouser! There’s no use trying, one can’t believe impossible things.

        • HomeRemedySupply says:

          Would this count?
          Graham McQueen’s research showing more than 100 Fire Fighters and Emergency personnel in documented statements reporting explosives.

          Those Canadians are pretty dang good at research. (grin)

        • mkey says:

          Well, I’ll have to keep my disbelief hat on on that subject. I’m not saying I don’t find the mininuke scenario possible, but it’s pretty far fetched and if we ever get a confirmation on that it would be very surprising, to me at least. IMO mininukes in this context are on the same sphere of existence with directed energy weapons and even possibly with “aliens dunnit” point of view.

          I tend to follow the old maxima “the most simple solution is the one that is most probable.”

          Pretty much the same goes for the possibility of having a building preemptively fitted with a demolition apparatus. Even if logically it does makes some sense, in effect every building will get torn down, sooner or later.

          I’m picturing a scenario in which them evil terrorists rush for THE red button to initiate detonation, that would probably be a lot easier to execute than the whole airplane adventure. Another picture in my imaging processor: fit the building with a giant screen with a timer on it telling you exactly when will the building be going down. With a complimentary “T-minus” countdown for the final hour in a sexy foxy lady voiceover.

          Of course, what logically does not follow is the fact one would have to maintain such demolition devices and keep them in check at all times.

          Following my previous line of thought: had a mininuke been used to bring WTC7 down, how long would setting up such device take? I simply have to assume liabilities stemming from the time needed to prepare such a maneuver would be nothing when compared to liabilities of having a mininuke built from day 1. You said it yourself, it’s all about liabilities. Where’s an insurance seller when you need one?

          • herrqlys says:

            I think the separation and control of the required detonation phases to a nuclear device are well known. The USAF often flew, and possibly still flies, aircraft armed with nuclear weapons. The aircrews and the groundcrews before them wouldn’t willingly handle them if this was not the case.

            Khazelov’s explanation of how this could be effected referred to WTC7 being connected by tunnels to the other WTC buildings, and that this was relevant to the arming. I’d have to revisit the YouTube videos of his explanation to detail the exact nuance.

            • mkey says:

              I have to concede that these nuclear weapon can be (obviously) constructed very safely, but I’d still like to see a related risk assessment for such a scenario.

            • mkey says:

              As far as underground nuclear explosions go, I have two considerations.

              1. even if I risk comparing apples and oranges, I’d expect more destruction from an underground nuclear explosion. Something violent like this

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPwSN9gUG5c

              I realize there are many variables to consider: strength of the device, type of soil, depth etc.

              2. wasn’t the height of the rubble pile along the lines of what one could expect when bringing such a building down? My understanding of this is a bit dated, but if one would open up a hole below the building, part of the remaining rubble would surely fill it.

              • herrqlys says:

                The mini-nuke charge envisioned is one proportional to the damage desired, given the the blast radius for a detonation from a calculated point below ground level. We’re not talking about Hiroshima or Bikini Atoll type atmospheric detonations. These would have been small underground nuclear explosions, suggested in the 150 kiloton range.

                The WTC buildings were built upon solid bedrock granite, so the nuclear blast core would eventually morph into a deformed cavity as the blast wave sought to exit along the path of least resistance: upwards through the concrete foundation structure.

                Some of the pulverized debris from the lower structures would indeed disappear into the cavity, but in relation to the sheer amount of material being demolished from the building above, this would be negligible.

              • herrqlys says:

                Rather than me trying to create a shorthand explanation, point by point, perhaps it’s better if you just start with this comprehensive explanation (good graphic representations, supported by the video record):

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUnjbCxhXh4

              • herrqlys says:

                I will make one final point about your post – the video link.

                That Amchitka underground detonation used a 5 megaton device (5,000,000 tons TNT equivalent) and for the WTC buildings it would have been 150 kiloton devices (150,000 tons TNT equivalent). Therefore the Amchitka detonation involved over 33x the explosive power.

                The subsurface composition would also be relevant. The Amchitka blast seemed to be moving/shaking a lot of earth post-detonation, whereas the WTC blasts would come up through bedrock, the concrete foundation, and then be channelled up the building structure.

              • mkey says:

                I really don’t have the time to review a 5 hour long video for the time being, to be honest. I did watch a short video about what Khazelov is talking about so I do get the gist of it, but his explanation sounds too convenient for my receptors.

                While there is a large difference between the video I posted above on underground nuclear explosion, a significant part of it is the depth of the “ground zero.” Also, a 50 meter hole is a 50 meter hole. It ought to significantly impact the crash site.

              • mkey says:

                On your previous link

                http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch01_en.html

                it is concluded that the rubble pile for WTC7 was 4 stories high while rule of the thumb (as far as I know) is one third of the building, so it should be about 15 floors. That’s a notable difference.

                If this was done with a nuke, was it not one of the most heinous crimes against humanity, I’d find it pretty damn spectacular. And since I don’t believe things until I see them with my own eyes I hope we’ll get a rerun. Could there be more poetical justice but to verify this on the freedom tower with all the globalist scum safely locked in? This subscriber thinks not.

              • mkey says:

                This is one gut wrenching video. Blair would have sold it a lot better, though.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PA3LCyjVVg

          • herrqlys says:

            I don’t want to revisit the mini-nuke scenario in detail here, as Dimitri Khazelov’s work (on YouTube) covers so many aspects, along with that of a nuclear scientist who explains other things about the observable facts:
            http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch01_en.html
            There are others.

            I will restate that the residues in the dust from the WTC buildings, and on nearby buildings and vehicles, clearly have the chemical isotopes and in the appropriate ratios to represent a nuclear detonation fingerprint.

            • herrqlys says:

              Heh. This post caught the milk run, whereas the others arrived fairly quickly via TGV. Darn those links that trigger moderation impediment.

        • wingsuitfreak says:

          I vaguely remember watching a video once about this whistle blower from the CIA. She stated that she had been imprisoned right after 9/11 for some time and that she worked as a liaison in the UN with Iraq. The Iraqis were willing to buy anything we wanted to sell them to keep from going to war with us. I give you all this info in case it triggers someone’s memory.
          She stated that the CIA worked nights for about four months to rig the buildings up completely. It was a very long video, but it has been a long time since I’ve seen it, and I have heard nothing about it since then. My guess is that it was removed, but that is just a guess. Just adding my two cents worth. Though, thanks to the Fed it’s not worth very much at all anymore!

  17. Aron says:

    I encourage anyone who has a desire to get closer to the truth about 9/11 to do your own research and look in as many corners of the web and publications you can get your hands on. Many commentators here have offered links to various websites and Youtube videos. Please, go to them and see what you find. Once you parse through the information you will start to uncover what is disinformation, who uses ad hominin attacks as an argument for their position, and what evidence stands up all by itself.

    Here are two additional links to many videos and articles providing evidence on what happened on 9/11. I encourage you to look here as well and compare with other information you find.

    http://www.checktheevidence.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=1&Itemid=60

    http://www.richplanet.net/rp_genre.php?ref=76&part=1&gen=2

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