Will Genetically Modified Humans Be Patented? - Questions For Corbett #064

07/15/202033 Comments

Will the genetically modified humans of our dystopian future be patented by corporations? Join James for this week's Question For Corbett where he explores the very real legal precedents for what many would dismiss as science fiction fantasy.

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  1. MagicBullet says:

    Seems there are 2 related issues here, 1. Whether a company could have the right to patent a biologic substance, and 2. Will that company use that patent benevolently or malevolently.

    The problem is that once the patented cat is let out of the patent box, a money-driven company will be motivated to maximize profits and racketeer their products, like seeds with terminator sequences that can only be good for profits.

    I suppose there will be a Covid vaccine that will need boosters, new variants for new strains and new boosters, new Covid types, ad nauseam. It will be just like having to update to a new Windows system every few years. Oh, could Windows be similar to vaccines somehow?

    • mik says:

      Interesting analogy with windouz updates.
      There are updates with patches for flawed previous patches and also all combinations imaginable.

      With time windouz became over patched, slow… re-installation is needed. Or new version.

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      I have a real problem with any kind of patent.

      Most of my adult life, I have been involved in starting and owning a business. However, I fully oppose patents.

      In my opinion, patents only serve the elite few and pollute the free market forces.
      A lot of Wall Street hype and inflated corporate share prices are the result of patents. And Wall Street is where the real money is made. A corporations profitability has very little to do with it.

      “Integrity” of a company’s ethical values is no longer a metric.

      Patents have been a driver for career oriented endeavors. Universities focus on them. Biology and Chemistry majors strive to enter a field and company which is developing patents.

      Look at all the weird bio-foods which are being touted.
      The bio-technology field is going gang busters with their patented processes for making strange, unnatural foods, such as meatless meats.
      Want a high paying job? Be a biology-engineering major who works for one of these companies.

      Please Stop The Ride Rise of the BioEconomy

      Money and Power are what patents reap.
      Patent Law is not designed with the motivation of the true welfare the human race. There is no morality nor ethics involved with patents.
      Human lives are the main casualties of patents.
      I spit on patents.

  2. I Shot Santa says:

    The government already owns the minds of most people. And the mind is what makes us human. Owning our bodies outright isn’t much of a stretch. And while the courts may make their legal action, what does it mean if you don’t accept it?

  3. firehorse says:

    how much of you needs to be modified before they own you? how much before your offspring are infringing upon their patent?

  4. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Tuesday and Wednesday – July 14th and 15th, 2020
    Recent financial headlines…

    “Stocks jump on hopes for coronavirus vaccine, upbeat Goldman Sachs earnings”
    (A pile of indexes rose with this headline and others like it (Dow, S&P, Russell, Nasdaq) This has been an often repeated Wall Street chant…stocks climb in vaccine hopes)

    “U.S. Stocks Set To Open Higher On Vaccine Hopes”

    “5 Stock Gainers Wednesday: Moderna, VBI Vaccines”

    “Moderna stock surges 17% on coronavirus vaccine trial news”

    “U.S. stocks rose on Wednesday with the S&P 500 hovering near its highest level in more than four months following promising early data for a potential COVID-19 vaccine and a strong quarterly showing by Goldman Sachs…
    …“A vaccine or treatment for COVID-19 remains the best hope for the economy,”
    said Adam Phillips, director of portfolio strategy at EP Wealth Advisors in Torrance, California.”

    – Reuters

    Moderna, Inc. (MRNA) (on the Nasdaq)
    On 2/24/2020, Moderna stock price was about $18.60 per share.
    Currently, on July 15th, it is about $82.00 per share.

    • I Shot Santa says:

      Chartists used to crack me up with their technical analysis of stock price trends. Double dip, bottomed out. All garbage. Three things move stock prices. First is the criminality of the fed and treasury department artificially supporting it. Second are the fundamentals. This is the long term gain. True investing. Third is news. For short term gain. Bubbles do as well, so I guess there’s four. Bubbles being too many fools begging to lose their money.

      • HomeRemedySupply says:

        You speak from experience, I know.
        You told me some of the old stories.

        What is kind of funny recently with the lockdown, retail investors (average folks) are using their unemployment money to buy and sell stocks.
        The Robinhood Ap has an odd following.
        People were even buying stocks of companies which were slated for bankruptcy. Of course, they lost all their money when the company goes under.
        There are some funny stories out there…one guy was begging a judge to refund the 10,000 shares that he bought after the announcement of the company’s plan to file for bankruptcy.

        • I Shot Santa says:

          I know you’ve heard of the phrase “a fool and his money are soon parted”, but I always wondered how they got their money to start with!
          Once I became a closer, I only dealt with entrepreneurs. My clients came out of a book of 100,000 entrepreneurs with 10-99 employees. Smart people with a lot of money who could make a decision. But that doesn’t mean everyone with money is smart. Some of the dumbest people I’ve ever met were multimillionaires. The world is one strange place!

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      July 15, 2020
      “Just The News” authored by Daniel Payne

      Moderna COVID-19 vaccine induced adverse reactions in ‘more than half’ of trial participants
      One-fifth of participants in one test group reported ‘one or more severe adverse events.’

      (Dr. Fauci video embedded)

      A highly anticipated clinical trial for a potential COVID-19 vaccine managed in part by the American drug company Moderna has resulted is some adverse effects in more than half of the trial’s participants, with one test group reporting “severe” symptoms…

      … “Solicited adverse events that occurred in more than half the participants included fatigue, chills, headache, myalgia, and pain at the injection site,” the report states. Fever, joint pain and nausea were also reported.

      Side effects grew more common with more (and larger) injections, the scientists write: “Systemic adverse events were more common after the second vaccination, particularly with the highest dose, and three participants (21%) in the 250-μg dose group reported one or more severe adverse events.”

      Notably, every participant in the two larger-dose groups reported adverse reactions after their second injections. One study participant in the smallest-dose group, meanwhile, was removed due to having developed hives after the first round of injections.

      The scientists said that due to the ongoing status of the project, they are not yet “able to assess the durability of the immune responses” generated by the vaccine, but that they intend to follow participants “for 1 year after the second vaccination” and examine regular blood samples to monitor the vaccine’s effects….

  5. Fact Checker says:

    I highly recommend this article by Whitney Webb, which sheds light on DARPA’s very real plans to turn humanity into “bio-reactors” through injected genetic “therapy”:


    Yes, DARPA has been funding Moderna from its inception. The whole thing is a military operation, and the Herd is the unwitting enemy, which will be weaponized against itself by endless genetic modifications via Trojan Horse “vaccines,” starting with this so-called “mRNA vaccine’ for which the bolognavirus is merely a flimsy pretext.
    Once they’re in our bodies, it doesn’t matter if we’ll be juridically construed as “property” of some corporation or government agency. That’s just a legalistic nicety that will only concern the mad scientist class, in their internecine squabbles over the spoils of gutted humanity.
    Once they’re in our bodies, we will be enslaved, abject mutants.

    • MagicBullet says:

      Very good link! This may relate to my recent comment on the “curious Covid reinfection of Cheri Hegi” where I noted her husband had worked for DARPA:

    • misfit says:

      What disturbs me is clearly the vaccine technology really isn’t about enhancing our health and making us Super Immune Humans. They want to kill off most of the population.
      So, it’s all marketing.
      Current vaccines are one shot fits all -obese adults get same dose as infants & children.
      The RNA or cDNA or whatever will be targeted. You’ll get the shot of their choice for how long they may deem you beneficial or not.
      I repeat the mantra often…I do not consent, I do not consent…
      I’ll remain hopeful until they come for me I guess.

      • I Shot Santa says:

        Hope implies doubt. They will fail. True, many will die; but liberty will win. I can’t explain my certainty, I only know it to be true.

    • I Shot Santa says:

      They don’t even need to inject people in order to control their thoughts. I have found pitifully few people who can be bothered to think for themselves about the corona cold. We’re a completely passive population. And has been an ongoing process for at least 30 years. I remember in college, in the early 90, during a class on southern history, and we were covering the trail of tears, a strange change coming about. This was in conjunction with the hyper PC, feminazi period. I noted that blood is what ultimately makes the land yours. Not only would this opinion have been acceptable during my youth, it was certainly in line with the native population of the time it occurred. One only has to read to know this. Natives were constantly practicing it against each other. But I was completely baffled by the response I got. I was told in horrified terms that the Cherokee would have been killed had they fought. Since I had just gotten back from war, I couldn’t comprehend such a mindset. And it has only worsened. Today, all I hear from people is how our military makes resistance futile. A completely ridiculous, and cowardly, defeatist attitude. Even if the military was unified in such a venture, it wouldn’t have a chance against a determined population as large as ours. But the vast majority have already been defeated. And most of those by refusing to recognize the ridiculous nature of the plandemic. Automatons with no curiosity, imagination, logic, or backbone. They have proven they will think as they’re told. Those are the walking dead.
      So I figure any vaccine is bound to operate as a killing mechanism. DARPA may hope it helps with tracking, but given their nature and military occupation, a massive culling is most likely. This as much from incompetent, and incomplete, thinking. Nothing ever goes as planned. Especially something as intricate as messing with our genetic structure.
      On another note, Wally World is now making masks mandatory to enter their stores. As they dominate the small town I go to once a month; this is a big deal here. Guess I no longer shop there. I refuse to wear one. Another line I’ve drawn.
      While I have no doubt liberty will win; I also have no doubt the price will be unimaginable. It’s as if the majority insist on becoming casualties. And I’ve run out of pity for them.

      • Octium says:

        Their souls died a long time ago (As in ceased to exist)…we are just waiting for their bodies to catch up.

      • katiyi says:

        I absolutely agree with you. It is the silent majority, the authoritarian followers, who will be the mastermind of our collective enslavement.

        We are coming back full circle to de la Boetie. Although, as I am reading the book, I find that he seems to be overly optimistic about the human race.
        Is there anyone here who would like to debate his ideas with me? That would be fun.

        • I Shot Santa says:

          I’ve only read the introduction so far. I typically read about a dozen books at a time, and it hasn’t made it back into my rotation yet. I did notice that he abandoned those views after he got some skin in the game. In many ways, my views have reverted back to my younger years. Albeit, I have become much harder, and far less charitable in my views on others. How do you like it so far?

  6. Alchemist says:

    I’m not worried about patents. If we can get our basic needs met without help, think independently, and exercise free will, then we are free.

    I am worried that they are about to permanently alter the human species and hardly anyone cares.

    • MagicBullet says:

      Yes, patenting a light bulb may have helped us, the misuse of bio patents is onerous.

      • Alchemist says:

        That’s true, but at the end of the day patents are just words on a document. Once all or most humans have altered genes, there’s no going back. There are no pockets big enough to turn back time.

        • Alchemist says:

          I’m worried about how they will edit us. Look at epicyte corn, for example. If they can do that with gene editing, what else can they do?

          • MagicBullet says:

            I tried to read about epicyte, the corn has a gene that produces the antibody, is that correct? I don’t think you can ingest an antibody (or DNA) very well, especially if it is cooked it probably wont be active. If you harvest the corn and extract the antibody it can be made into another delivery system like IV or intranasal I suppose. Do you have further info on how the corn infertility is supposed to work?

            • Alchemist says:

              It’s been a while since I looked into this, but it’s my understanding that they inserted a sperm killing gene into corn. Was it an expirament to see what would happen if ingested? Maybe GMO corn isn’t entirely to blame for low sperm counts, there are many toxic chemicals in our environment, but the counts are dangerously low. Thanks to certain scientific “advancements”, we are on the brink of extinction.

              Interesting documentary:

              The Disappearing Male (45m)

              • MagicBullet says:

                Counts may indeed be low some places, but the world population is said to increase to 10 or 11bil then stay stable-I guess there are lots of opinions)-and Mr. Bill doesn’t like that many it’s clear. Since few men can seed many women compared to women seeding men, low egg counts would be more ominous.

              • Alchemist says:

                If they can do it to corn, they can do it to us. And I’m guessing injection would be more effective than ingestion. A woman’s body will kill sperm if she carries the epicyte gene.

  7. sninvegas says:

    Fiction is the first glimpse to an eventual reality. Hanna on Prime is all about genetically modified humans, raised and trained, to do the bidding of its owners. Unfortunately, not an unrealistic probability.

  8. misfit says:

    What disturbs me is clearly the vaccine technology really isn’t about enhancing our health and making us Super Immune Humans. They want to kill off most of the population.
    So, it’s all marketing for the shots that will be used to control us. They must have hit the bonzai bonanza on how this will work through our DNA
    Current vaccines are one shot fits all -obese adults get same dose as infants & children.
    The RNA or cDNA or whatever will be targeted. You’ll get the shot of their choice for how long they may deem you beneficial or not.
    I repeat the mantra often…I do not consent, I do not consent…
    I’ll remain hopeful until they come for me I guess.

  9. lwc says:

    Might not Portia’s “pound of flesh” defense be applicable here? The corporations may use their “property” as long as doing so does not infringe upon the property of others. Just a thought.

  10. starfire says:

    As I commented on another podcast on a similar subject, Michael Crichton wrote about this back in 2006 in his book “Next”. Although fiction there are different stories dealing with patented modified human tissues. Definitely worth the read!

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