Welcome to the Driverless Future!

08/22/201757 Comments

We all know where this is heading, right? So what will you do when they take the steering wheel away?

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Episode 274 – Crashes of Convenience: Michael Hastings

Was Michael Hastings’ Car Hacked? Richard Clarke Says It’s Possible

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  1. PeaceFroggs says:

    How to take away peoples ability to steer?

    Problem – Reaction – Solution = Terrorists using cars/vans to plow into people!

    People may start reacting by demanding driver-less cars in order to stop these kinds of terrorist attacks, when in fact more than likely some of these so called attacks were probably remote controlled by nefarious black ops type people, and the Muslims merely patsies!?

    Honestly though, to many people love to drive. So I predict a day when taxi’s and/or public transportation may become driver-less, but your every day driver will not give up the wheel so easily.

    • scpat says:

      Think ‘boiling frogs’…
      How most of our freedoms are taken.

      • PeaceFroggs says:

        Yep! Slow and steady, easy does it.

        Governments and insurance companies will probably try to scheme up ways for people to save on insurance as a social engineering mechanism to help “motivate” them towards purchasing driver-less vehicles.

        However the technology itself won’t come cheap, and will probably offset any savings early on, so I presume only the rich and famous will be able to afford these luxury vehicles at first, and then the MSM will make it “trendy” for the mass as the cost goes down.

        I also believe businesses like taxi’s, limo services and bus transportation will lead the way, given these companies will save on average some $50 000+ per year/ per driver on salary alone, but for the average Joe, I think we’re a long way off from buying into this.

        On a side note…I remember not that long ago standard cars and trucks were the norm, and fun to drive. Nowadays they’re hard to come by, seems like every car and truck on the road these days are automatics 🙁

        On happy note, I think the average Joe/Jane is gonna push back on this.
        We love to drive!

        I can see how this technology would be pretty cool for older folks in their 80’s+ still independent and living in their home.

        • scpat says:

          I hope people push back on a mandatory driverless car, if there ever is such a thing. But I think it will eventually come down to the advancement of technology. The market for autonomous cars may eventually get choked out, and the car manufactures would then only produce the driverless cars when it becomes affordable for them to do so. And how is it becoming affordable for them to do so? Subsidies from government. For example, this Breitbart article from early 2016, “Obama Wants $4 Billion to Subsidize Silicon Valley Driverless Cars”, where it details the subsidization of companies in the Silicon Valley, specifically (CIA) Google, Government Shill Elon Musk’s Tesla, BMW, and other huge corporations.

          “Fox [sic] also released a statement that details President Obama’s request for the 2017 budget to steer about $400 million in each of the next 10 years to ‘“test pilot programs to test connected vehicle systems in designated corridors throughout the country, and work with industry leaders to ensure a common multi-state framework for connected and autonomous vehicles.”’ These code words mean big subsidies flowing to Silicon Valley.”

          I see the inevitable future of self-driving cars as a double edged sword, though. On the one hand, as “awake” people, we understand what the evil rulers of this world will use this for, namely, to strip away our freedom of movement, and freedoms in general. But on the other hand this technology may have positive uses, especially in the trucking and transportation industry.

          http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/16/obama-wants-4-billion-to-subsidize-silicon-valley-driverless-cars/

          • wingsuitfreak says:

            The most powerful weapon in any pushing back is a boycott. While there may be political agendas involved, this doesn’t mean they don’t want to profit off them. If people could grasp the power of boycotts, we wouldn’t have half the problems we do today.

  2. HomeRemedySupply says:

    I gotta say that, more and more, I detest all this “new” electronic supposed convenience. I don’t think it actually is a “convenience”.

    In 1976, I owned a 1951 Chevy. I finally got rid of it, because I was duped into thinking that I was out of style.
    But it was simple!!
    Under the hood, the engine area was largely vacant with no complicated computer systems. The engine was the size of a small suitcase. The car ran great. No issues.

    2009 – The U.S. “Cash for Clunkers”, Car Allowance Rebate System (CARS).
    Supposedly, this was to help poor Americans and the environment. I don’t buy that.

    Tesla and electric cars.
    I feel that people’s bodies are being exposed to too much electronically induced radiation as it is. In my opinion, driving for hours on end in an electric vehicle can’t be healthy.

    The new washing machines are a digital nightmare. I like the old “turn the knob, hearing the clicker, washing machine. Now there is the Samsung touchscreen refrigerator for your grocery list.
    Doorbells (like “Ring”)… You ring a doorbell and it connects to a person’s Smartphone (via subscription) with a fisheye video and interactive voice. The doorbell records motion of outdoor activity. And I think to myself: “Yes, just more data for NSA or whomever”. It amazes me how many people now have these.

    I remember turning the clicker knob for channels on the TV.
    I miss that.

    The marketing hype purports that all this new electronic stuff helps to improve our lives, making things more convenient.
    I feel like this new electronic stuff makes life over-complicated, more costly and more stressful.
    I feel like it ends up hijacking my life in many ways, taking away my volitional control.

    I’m moving towards “more simple” and having better control of my sphere of influence.

    • wingsuitfreak says:

      The cash for clunkers program was to give China the scrap metal from the cars being traded in. This actually harmed poorer folk who can’t afford new cars as it drove the prices up even further out of their reach. Me? I bicycle, bicycle, I want to ride my bicycle!

    • MultiVitamin says:

      HRS – I completely understand.

      For home, I’ve always enjoyed “low tech” and better yet “no tech”. Most things now become disposable after too short a time and I always felt the need to keep things low/no tech to be able to fix them myself vs having to pay $$$ someone else to repair. But now that I’ve taken the “red pill”, I’m glad I never fell into the trap of always buying the latest and greatest. I don’t WANT to have anything connected to the Internet (other than my work and personal computers), I don’t want ANY InternetOfThings, especially this self-driving car concept. All this technology simply makes us MORE dependent on the criminals in charge and less of a human with free choice, free will, free thought, etc…

      MultiVitamin

      • HomeRemedySupply says:

        MultiVitamin says: …All this technology simply makes us MORE dependent on the criminals in charge….

        In many ways, I think it is deliberate. I think the intention behind many of these “innovations” is to have people become reliant upon them. Reliant people are easier to manipulate.

        Often “innovations” which offer independence and self-reliance get suppressed.

        • mkey says:

          I think this falls into the category of “product placement” – they create a product and they want you keep using/upgrading/replacing it. If you are not even aware that you need some type of product, they’ll make sure to make you see that you do.

          Wast majority of everything that we use falls into the category of something we could easily do without.

  3. Pablo de Boer says:

    First the kakistocracy will control your car, but in the near future they will control your brains.

    Scientists use magnetic fields to remotely stimulate brain — and control body movements
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170816134658.htm

      • Pablo de Boer says:

        The next step in the research is to use magneto-thermal stimulation to activate — and silence — multiple regions of the brain at the same time in mice…..

        Here you can download a pdf of the research
        https://elifesciences.org/articles/27069

        • Pablo de Boer says:

          Funded by your governments with your tax…

          The research published in eLife was funded by the National Institute of Mental Health and the Human Frontier Science Program.

          The Human Frontier Science Program
          Members

          The members of the HFSPO, the so-called Management Supporting Parties (MSPs) are the contributing countries and the European Union, which contributes on behalf of the non-G7 EU members.

          The current MSPs are Australia, Canada, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Norway, New Zealand, Singapore, Switzerland the United Kingdom, the United States of America and the European Union.
          http://www.hfsp.org/about-us

          The National Institute of Mental Health

          The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) is the lead federal agency for research on mental disorders. NIMH is one of the 27 Institutes and Centers that make up the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the largest biomedical research agency in the world. NIH is part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

          https://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/index.shtml

        • wingsuitfreak says:

          But they’ve already been controlling the minds of sheep for eons! 🙂

  4. madmovond says:

    For me, it always boils back down to the moral dilemma question: Who dies?

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/driverless-cars-will-face-moral-dilemmas/

    That question is entirely unanswerable. There can only exist subjective opinion from various sides of the argument. Just like vaccines, the carmakers will undoubetldy get politicians to rule that autonomous cars are “unavoidably unsafe” and in return get protected from litigation when anyone gets run over. Consumers sign a waiver and then safely fall asleep behind the wheel. Oh, goodie.

    • scpat says:

      THIS is where we are heading. As PeaceFroggs noted, the problem-reaction-solution of car-ramming terorr attacks will be implemented as a justification for removing autonomous vehicles. That seems likely to be part of it, but I think it will mostly come down to data, data, data. We are in the age of data and experts, where decisions are made not from our brains and logic, but from data. Of course car accidents kill and injure a lot of people on a daily basis, so I can easily see how this will all be justified when politicians want to enact some legisislation to remove our driver-controlled vehicles.

      • dfx says:

        For the time being, at least, car accidents still kill more people than terrorist attacks (by orders of magnitude).

        Until recently, lightning strikes were responsible for more deaths worldwide than terrorists – that might have changed in the last few years. I’d like to see them outlaw static electricity..

  5. scpat says:

    It seems odd that all of a sudden (within the last year or so) these car rammings are happening increasingly often in such a short period of time. These are happening all across the world as well. This smells.

    Just as I was thinking about this trend several days ago, I come across this USA Today article, “Barcelona attack latest in disturbing terror vehicle trend”, that notes the same thing. The article essentially blames ISIS for propagandizing this method of killing and inspiring “lone wolves” that may not even be directly connected to ISIS. So there’s one (if not, THE official) narrative they are spinning.

    “Rita Katz, executive director of the SITE Intelligence Group, said the Islamic State has been heavily promoting the use of trucks in recent years. The group even dedicated a three-page feature in the November edition of its online magazine explaining the right way to carry out such an attack, including a picture of a U-Haul truck, a list of suggested targets and tips on what kind of truck to use.”

    The article goes on to raise concerns of the accessibility to this information on the “clear web”, not just in the “deep web.” (We must censor the internet to stop “extremism”, right??). But it gets worse….

    “But Gartenstein-Ross said the anonymity of social media and easy access to encryption software has made it easier for people to have regular conversations with terrorism groups without raising suspicions from law enforcement.”

    They don’t miss an opportunity to demonize encryption software as well. Man, USA Today got a lot done in this article.
    1. Propagate ISIS boogeyman
    2. Blame the free and open internet
    3. Blame encryption

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/08/17/barcelona-attack-terror-vehicle-trend/577470001/

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      scpat says:
      It seems odd that all of a sudden (within the last year or so) these car rammings are happening increasingly often in such a short period of time. These are happening all across the world as well. This smells.

      Man! You said it.

      • n2abstract says:

        Funny I was just thinking the same thing! Cars can be such deadly weapons, maybe we should pass laws to restrict, better yet, abolish their use… I won’t be too surprised if that were to happen.

  6. The Last American Vagabond says:

    I am completely with you James, whether or not these incidents were planned or simply took place (and I certainly feel that they were orchestrated based on the many discrepancies I’ve seen, in particular, the guy who filmed the dodge and his background) they will no doubt be used to create the type of control mechanism that has been put in place everywhere else. I think this will also be used to further incite violence and division that will lead to calls of martial law.

  7. Airean says:

    Let’s not kid ourselves – private-use vehicles won’t exist soon enough anyway. No one is selling us on future use private cars that could have been designed efficiently decades ago. And the “tiny house” designs are now touting a “stackable” feature. They’ve come a long way from the ingenious cute little dollhouse type designs and of late the tiny house videos show an impressive use of hydraulics and machinery. In fact the designs take manufactured housing into machinery concepts. Just a year or two ago the designs seemed quite organic. As for cars, there is a reason new efficient design all went out the window. There is no future for them obviously. No use for us either probably, no efforts put into schooling us on living differently – just that we are too many. What happened to teaching us conservation or even outlawing plastic grocery bags, for example? No interest in those efforts or animal conservation etc. all the money goes for global warming travel and meetings. Cars are done for. So are the small houses shown by the lake concepts – unless stackable. It’s also a curious thing they are designed for near instant set-up. Most of the expensive features are given over to set-up and take-down mechanics. The videos used to focus on where the tiny toilet was hidden away. Now it’s all about instant set-up Where are these design goals coming from?

  8. dfx says:

    If they can’t ram with cars anymore, they’ll start using other vehicles. Think of how effective a semi would be. For small-scale ramming, a motorcycle could do the job. Or they’ll switch away from ramming and come up with other novel ways to decimate crowds. You just can’t protect the populous from deranged psychos bent on destruction – not with all the tech in the world. The solution is to breed fewer psychos, but states seem to only be able to figure out how to breed more of them.

    As a motorcyclist, AI cars scare the crap out of me. It’s hard enough trying to anticipate what a normal, cozy distracted driver might do from moment to moment, but I have no idea how a computer-driven car will behave in traffic around me. Car drivers may not know this, but we bikers are looking for a clear spot in the road without cars next to us that can veer into us and knock us into oblivion. That’s why we will speed up to get in front of you – we have a better chance of being noticed, and whatever crazy moves you make behind us are your own business. We like space. I wonder if AI cars know this about us?

    I love to drive, particularly when I’m not stuck in heavy traffic. And I love, love, love to ride my motorcycle. I wonder if they’re planning to take the handlebars away from us, too? For some reason, the phrase “from my cold dead hands” jumps to mind..

    Take care, folks!

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      … “from my cold dead hands” jumps to mind.

    • black sheep says:

      Hear hear!!!
      Exactly.
      I was going to write almost the same thing

      And good luck making a bike rider less.

      I wonder how long it will be before vehicles older than say 5 years will be outlawed.
      There are a lot of vintage cars trucks and bikes that people will always love and drive.

    • mkey says:

      Firstly, lets keep in mind that all of these rammings I have followed upon showed the same traits: blurry video recordings which would be put shame by cheapest Chinese phones, lack of blood, running “authority” figures, no (appropriate) CCTV footage, a bunch of people oddly standing around and a varying number of victims coming from different outlets. The only thing standing as a testament to those crimes is the word coming from those who lie to us on daily basis.

      Secondly, I don’t know about your area, but in my general area motorcycle drivers are out of their freaking minds. They show no compunction on driving any way they see fit – passing by in turns and rushing through pedestrian crossings while cars are stopped to let the peds get over the road. They drive too fast and are hard to keep track of, by the time I hear one of them coming behind me and I look in my back mirror he’s already passed me over on whichever side. Something which I generally don’t have a problem with, but it’s problematic if I need to open my car door or do a turn.

      • wingsuitfreak says:

        There was a video, which I had posted the link to but forgot where and also don’t remember the title, by HiImpactFlix that dealt with the recent riots. In it, he pointed out that the person filming the car ramming had worked for the CIA in Africa overthrowing governments. He also noted slight differences in the car’s paint job. Also noting the medias lack of coverage of these details. He’s a bit loud for my taste, but he raised some good points. After all, if the CIA is behind the rammings, Antifa, and the White Supremacists, just how surprised are we supposed to be when we find out they happen so regularly? And that these questions aren’t covered by the press.
        I think Antifa is brilliant. Not the idiots you see, but those who came up with the idea of using them and those that fund them. From that little psychopath (and I mean that one medically, I know I often ridicule the use of the word, but not always) that was interviewed by Chris Tucker on Fox, on down, they are idiots. But above that level is a whole nudder crew at the wheel. Jim, who is hilariously ignorant about all these events in a city a long ways off from him and that he can’t directly change anyway so he works on the things he can change instead.

        • mkey says:

          I’ve seen that CIA man being discussed elsewhere already. Ole Dammegard analyzed some similar events https://vimeo.com/user60088028
          It’s always the same deal.

          • wingsuitfreak says:

            Oh man. I look at that video link and think, not another! I have so many in my list. But, yes; another. Thanks. Must be nice to have the press as your marketing team.

          • wingsuitfreak says:

            On a personal note, I add this link to the Activist Post. I say personal because after I escaped the Army, I began to get a lot of offers of work in that field. The last was to a KKK group in Ohio (I think it was Ohio). That would have upset the girl I was dating at the time since her skin was of a decidedly tan nature. Then an old Sgt Major I used to serve under came to my campus and we “ran” into each other. After he determined I didn’t want anything to do with the Army anymore, I never received another offer. And no, I wasn’t a super soldier, just competent. Which is rare enough in the Army. Anyway, here’s the link, which is hardly groundbreaking:

            http://www.activistpost.com/2017/08/warning-the-race-war-is-being-engineered.html?utm_source=Activist+Post+Subscribers&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ac5affcdf6-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_b0c7fb76bd-ac5affcdf6-388180989

          • wingsuitfreak says:

            Had to watch the video on YouBoob as my vimeo copy wouldn’t buffer right. That was an odd interview. As are all of these incidents. Though I haven’t checked into the veracity of this one or the one I recommended either. On the whole, I find them of too little interest to go that far in-depth. While I know that sounds apathetic, and to an extent it is, I have enough on my plate without being involved in every incident around the world. Plus, I spend most of my video time watching some sort of documentary. Yes, I’m a nerd. Thanks, Jim

            • mkey says:

              We shouldn’t be spending too much time on these, anyway. I haven’t invested much time in any of these events between the Paris event and now the Barcelona one. Curve balls abound and time better not be wasted.

              If it does turn out these were, against all odds, real and real people died due to some deranged people actions, worst case scenario is: I took deaths of these people I don’t know lightly. I did much worse things in my life. It’s not called apathy, but keeping the eye on the ball.

  9. Airean says:

    Let’s not kid ourselves – private-use vehicles won’t exist soon enough anyway. No one is selling us on future use private cars that could have been designed efficiently decades ago. And the “tiny house” designs are now touting a “stackable” feature. They’ve come a long way from the ingenious cute little dollhouse type designs and of late the tiny house videos show an impressive use of hydraulics and machinery. In fact the designs take manufactured housing into machinery concepts. Just a year or two ago the designs seemed quite organic. As for cars, there is a reason new efficient design all went out the window. There is no future for them obviously. No use for us either probably, no efforts put into schooling us on living differently – just that we are too many. What happened to teaching us conservation or even outlawing plastic grocery bags, for example? No interest in those efforts or animal conservation etc. all the money goes for global warming travel and meetings. Cars are done for. So are the tiny houses shown by the lake concepts – unless stackable. It’s also a curious thing they are designed for near instant set-up. Most of the expensive features are given over to set-up and take-down mechanics. The videos used to focus on where the tiny toilet was hidden away. Now it’s all about instant set-up Where are these design goals coming from?

  10. Camille says:

    Here is something about how Tesla cars are learning. I found the entire presentation pretty interesting.

    Dr. Colin Parris, Digital Twin presentation at the 2017 Naval Future Force S&T Expo
    Published on Jul 22, 2017
    https://youtu.be/XM4DlLjsL0g?t=25m3s

    • nosoapradio says:

      Only watched the part about cars. Eminently pertinent.

      Tesla cars learn from the humans, the sensors, the Fleet and the simulations…

      No more driving into children, dogs… or crowds…

  11. steph.c says:

    This is my first time posting anything anywhere, mostly because I don’t feel like I have enough experience or expertise in other areas covered, or I’d rather just read what other people have to say.

    But am an absolute expert on this topic. And I can’t hold this one in.

    Being born and raised in Southern California (Los Angeles County and Orange County) and teaching college/university here, I get to converse with a couple hundred new people every year. Inevitably, we end up talking about driving.

    From what I’ve experienced and learned, this issue boils down to the average consumer experience, and it is, unfortunately, a triple-layered quandary:

    1. The vast majority of people have exceptionally negative experiences associated with driving (reinforced on a DAILY basis) – ranging from elevated stress levels/depression/anxiety and moderate financial loss all the way up to devastating injuries and complete financial ruin. It’s becoming more of a helter-skelter ballet of machines by the day because of the ever-increasing population densities in LA/OC areas. Additionally, differing and potentially deadly “opinions” about the correct way to drive and even the refusal to accept the basic physical properties of objects in motion (momentum, velocity, etc.) are being demonstrated by growing numbers of people here, so nobody is really on the same page during any given vehicular melee.

    2. Many people here are forced to drive long distances because they cannot afford to live near enough to their jobs. Compound this problem with #1 above. And don’t get me started on public transportation in LA/OC counties. Just don’t. I’ve spent a lot of time in the DC/Arlington, VA area and in Boston, MA. I know what public transportation should be.

    3. On top of #1 and #2, people seem to have a simultaneous lack of awareness of (or maybe just unwillingness to acknowledge the heinous intentions behind) the beefy hands of our corporate government pushing the driverless car campaign. The vast majority of people I talk with – students, friends, and family – do not know who Michael Hastings was or understand the ramifications of having CPUs in a vehicle, even though they’ve been in our cars since the 1978 Lincoln Versailles! Only my computer-nerd acquaintances understand this issue. They like to say in Master-Yoda voice, “CPU has it? Hacked it can be.”

    #1: Daily personal distress caused by driving + #2: The need to drive long distances to keep a job + #3: A massive lack of awareness about negative consequences of driverless cars = RIP traditional driving

    Almost all of the people I know are in favor driverless vehicles. I can’t speak for those who live in different parts of the planet, but there’s a good possibility that they can identify with some of the driving problems we deal with in Southern California.

    I have to admit, sometimes when I get home from a particularly harrowing multiple-freeway commute, I momentarily ache for a driverless car. But then I snap out of it when I remember that driverless cars (as we’ve already seen) can efficiently facilitate the neutralization of individuals who pose a threat to the – as the two Jameses put it – “powers that shouldn’t be.” And, to me, that’s way more terrifying than the 20-something checking her Facebook page, slurping on a blue Starbucks concoction, and applying mascara while driving at a high rate of speed in the lane next to me.

    https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/onh00/onh2p11.htm

    https://project.wnyc.org/commute-times-us/embed.html#8.00/33.814/-118.236

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/12/26/SCIENCE-HORIZONSNEWLNTechnology-Today-On-board-computers-vital-to-autos-operation-Training-of-dealers-and-mechanics-big-problem/3907441262800/

    One last thing: Imagine the anti-hacking, Cloud-based programs that consumers would have to purchase for their driverless vehicles….

    I don’t even like having Norton burrowed into my laptop, let alone my car.

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      Good post “steph.c”.

    • wingsuitfreak says:

      I now live in a small, podunk, town in Northern Florida. I know of people who, just for fun as country boys tend to do, will hack into their friends cars and drive it around the parking lot. While they are just having fun, I have managed to meet many people who have the skills and are of a criminal mindset. Between car theft rings and the government, the CPU is a bad idea in this case.
      As an added note, I was watching a video by HighImpactFLX the other day about the car ramming incident recently. He noted the person doing the video (happened to be in the right place and the right time) was a CIA agent who had been involved in coups in Africa. Yet, no one mentioned it. He also noted discrepancies in the car (one had a slightly different paint job apparently). I wonder if all of this had something to do with Trump taking his time on his speech, and the later tone of it. No idea myself. Jim, still out-running the face-eating zombies of Florida!

  12. HomeRemedySupply says:

    I was upset today. Growling.

    I saw parts of this clip at Press For Truth.
    (Just watch a brief bit, don’t spend much time on the video.)
    (10 seconds) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIAcA6nMwYY&feature=youtu.be&t=7m50s

    There is a crowd of about 3,000 protesters in Vancouver.
    Personally, I think both the Left and the Right are silly with shallow issues; like 5th Graders arguing about what the color of jello in the cafeteria should be.

    Here is what burned me…
    How come these 3,000 protesters are not up in arms about the 9/11 Cover-up?! …and what followed… the meaningless wars in the middle-east with millions of lives ruined, while our liberties have been siphoned away!

    3,000 people easily show up to make a statement, but…
    Where’s the substance?

    All this reminds me of those TV Reality shows, where ya see soap-opera drama and controversy over mundane topics.
    Someone on the Right says something to rile people on the Left who say something to rile people on the Right who then work harder to piss off and argue with the opposing views…on and on.
    Screw all that crap.

    Rarely have I seen (if ever) 3,000 people gather to call attention to things that really matter, like the 9/11 Cover-up or the Oklahoma City Bombing.

    Anyway, the quantity of shallowness rubbed me wrong today.

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      It seems like an issue such as the 9/11 Cover-up would be a uniting force. Something which should bring out thousands of protesters.

      • wingsuitfreak says:

        I sort of stand with George Carlin on protesting. I admit I may be wrong, but for me the personal communications with others has always be my style anyway. I’ve become a more introverted person as I’ve gotten older, mostly because I don’t really like most people. So for me, the thought of being in a large group of people, being part of some collective force, sends shivers up my spine. I also think, that despite the way the media hypes up all this crap, that people are even more dissatisfied with government than they ever have been. This right/left mania might be more of a last desperate hurrah on the parts of some, and being encouraged by the frightened powers that be.

        • HomeRemedySupply says:

          Jim,
          For a decade I had been a hardcore 9/11 Truth Activist on a local level, spending countless hours and somewhere over 25k-30k of personal money (and I am poor).

          The advantage of street actions is visibility in the real world.
          It is a nice form of marketing.

          What ground my ass was “How come 3,000-5,000 protesters aren’t bringing up 9/11?”
          Their ability to evaluate importances is out-to-lunch.

          A tactic our local 9/11 Group often would use (mostly thanks to Joe, the Founder), would be to ride on the coattails of another protest group, such as the Peace Movement events or Occupy Dallas or JFK or Monsanto marches.
          It was very effective.

          • wingsuitfreak says:

            Congrats on your hard work, but I guess I’ve always just been adverse to protests. Again, differing personalities, beliefs, etc., all make a difference. For much of my time after I got out of the military, it would not have been a good idea to have me in a situation where lots of people were angry and active. Had just a couple of anger issues in those days!
            On the plus side, there probably are a lot of people who are involved in solutions which don’t involve protesting, but instead focus on making government irrelevant. I have been involved in non-violent movements, such as just sowing certain seeds for fun and profit (mostly fun and personal use, even though it may have spread over several miles) and many other things that are best not mentioned. I think that the groups farming in Detroit, the growing open-source seed networks (all over Florida. Every week you can go to any library I’ve been to and get organic seeds for free), people feeding the homeless despite stinkin’ badges, all sorts of efforts done by individuals and groups which help spark that revolutionary spirit of true independence and compassion we so desperately need. Oh well, now getting ready to go write in the most boring language of all; engineering. Yech! Throw in a little lawyer-speak to complete the nausea! Jim, who, when chased by zombies, always runs with lawyers so that he only has to run faster than the lawyer. Helping the world by helping myself! 🙂

            • HomeRemedySupply says:

              I agree across the boards.
              Anyone can do something to better conditions.

              Personally, I believe protests are like yelling at a wall as far as being effective.
              However, they can have certain edges in the marketing department.
              ~Visibility is one.
              ~It is inexpensive.
              ~When our group would ride on the coattails of another themed protest group, we could hand out DVDs and literature to that audience.

              • wingsuitfreak says:

                Unfortunately, between paid provocateurs and media focus, visibility has made many protests seem like a fool’s gathering. That 10% in every group is made to seem like the totality. Unless it’s a protest the state wants to happen. Then everyone is well-spoken and highly intelligent. Or at least they appear that way. But, you are definitely right; they do present yet another opportunity to get people aware of the why things are wrong. Though at this point, one has to wonder just what rock they’ve been hiding under if they haven’t figured that one out yet. I mean really, do we want such unaware people on OUR side? I would rather have ten people who are intelligent and well-informed than a thousand ignorant morons on my side. Unless I wanted to do something stupid like rush an armed opposition. Only then would I take the stupid people, and that would be me being a saboteur of the other side! 🙂

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      And on that note…
      NEWSBUD VIDEO
      4 minutes
      First Annual 9/11 Activist Summit – “Titans of Truth” All Star Panel
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENlQh_sWgGw

    • scpat says:

      HRS,

      I watched several minutes of the video. A lot of double standards and blatant hypocrites. The irony is almost unbelievable. You have a crowd of people showing up to stand against these white supremacists where the supposed goal is to STOP HATE, and here they are hating on the Press For Truth people, violently, because they don’t share the same viewpoints as them.

      What I saw was a “mob mentality” coming out in the people surrounding them and chanting “racists go home”. These people claim to be against the spread of hate, by themselves spreading more hate. Just downright hypocritical. Those leftist “counter-protestors” are one side of an authoritarian coin, the other side being the far-right authoritarian white supremacists they came to protest against.

      As we’ve seen in the past with the 2016 election, companies that artificially create protestors and mobs are used in these situations. There is a company called “Crowds on Demand” that was posting adds to recruit and pay people to protest in Charlotte, NC one week prior to the Charlottesville protest and car ramming, although the company denied involvement in the events.

      As far as people not gathering like this to protest 9/11 coverup, I think there are a couple things going on. First of all, the MSM has created a social environment where it is unpopular and not publically acceptable to talk about other versions of the event than the mainstream official narrative. They’ve done this with the “conspiracy theorist” pigeonholing of anyone that tries to speak out. In the news, its “acceptable” to talk about equality, hate speech, and political correctness, so gatherings like this one are “cool” and socially justifiable to go to. Secondly, artificial crowd recruiting companies probably don’t make crowds for 9/11 truth and any other relevant issues.

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/why-was-crowd-hire-company-recruiting-25-hour-political-activists-charlotte-last-wee

  13. HomeRemedySupply says:

    – Remote Controlled Car Crash Murder? …”probably” (in my opinion)… –
    Would a corrupt oil multi-millionaire murder another corrupt oil multi-millionaire to gain more wealth and to keep from going to prison?

    Aubrey McClendon was an internationally famous, influential and very rich oil man in Oklahoma City.
    2016- He was indicted by a Grand Jury for manipulating prices and land purchases, but less than 24 hours later he had “a fiery accident” in his modern computerized vehicle. LOOK at the car!
    (3 minutes) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL7309tce8s

    Official Police Announcement on FACEBOOK
    https://www.facebook.com/okcpd/videos/vb.65444419168/10153987261814169/?type=2&theater
    If you read the Facebook comments, you will notice that many of his close associates do not think this was a suicide.

    NBC “No Evidence of Suicide in Death of Indicted Oil Man”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aubrey-mcclendon-no-evidence-suicide-death-indicted-oil-man-n588181

    I remember the day this “accident” occurred and followed the news stories. At the time, there was little or no evidence of any braking tread marks. Just high speed into the concrete. And this crash resulted in a fire which pretty much toasted things crispy.

    A millionaire could easily hire someone to hack into Aubrey’s car.

    Would someone else want Aubrey dead? (After all, dead men can’t “make a deal with the Prosecutor’s office”, dead men can’ talk.)
    Who knows?…maybe this ex-partner, Tom Ward … (Anchor talks about him being a co-conspirator in the video)
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/oil-prices-rise-not-us-203908039.html#

  14. nosoapradio says:

    Well actually, Barcelona’s not the latest “drive-into-people” attack.

    Marseille is. At least I believe it is at the moment I’m typing this.

    Following which I also thought how strange it was that there had been so many attacks of this sort veering from Islamic terrorists to the psychotic and finally the ordinary distracted human being…

    humans are the fallible enemy…apparently…

    And to answer Steph.C;

    I also have the opportunity to poll lots of people on this issue in France and I confirm

    the vast majority are for driverless cars

    to my astonishment.

    The advent of cars steered humans into a new sort of industrial commuting society that horse-owners of the time must have looked upon with great suspicion.

    and now they’re taking away the steering wheel, herding us into a new remote-controlled paradigm…

    and I’ve seen an increasing number of electric hoverboards and monocycles whizzing around…probably well-adapted to trafficless smart cities…

    I’ll quote Jesse Schelle on the gaming of society but in reference to driverless cars:

    “But I do know this stuff is coming. Man! It’s gotta come! What’s gonna stop it?”

  15. HomeRemedySupply says:

    Jim Marrs Wake
    For folks in the North Texas area who would like to attend Jim’s wake it will be starting about 5 pm on September 1st. 
    If you cannot make it, offer up a toast with Dos Equis (XX) to him at that time.
    For details, get with Joe of “North Texans for 9/11 Truth” Meetup Group.

    • wingsuitfreak says:

      I remember his symbols video (probably one of several, but this one stuck into my mind though I don’t remember the title). He had a picture of the NYSE building and the demon sacrifices there. While it is true it could be some sort of luciferian occult reference, it is also equally possible that the sacrifices meant the people who worked there. It is one of the most dog-eat-dog businesses you can get into. I was small-time, and it was brutal on my level. Whenever someone left, everybody lined up to get that person’s accounts. Most just demonized the previous broker, which works pretty well; but I always cast a sympathetic tone that implied they just weren’t quite able to cut it. Neither is wrong, it just depended on how you wanted to cast yourself. All the rest of the symbolism, is pretty creepy. It always seemed to me to be that stupid self-fulfilling prophecy stuff being promoted. Scary however you look at it. He was something else. Always good to have someone who looks deeper into the pit than others. There truly are monsters down there and they will eat you alive.

  16. cmad says:

    Hello Corbett Report, Ive just come across this advert

    https://steemit.com/technology/@aek081969/5-future-trucks-and-buses-you-must-see

    Especially like the smiling “drivers” and the elevated bus that would obviously need to be part of a fully automated public and domestic transport grid. Also see Wallmart have scratched the backs of the haulage industry with a huge investment, wonder what the return is on that….?

    Peace, love and honour.

  17. On the up side… less carjacking by impoverished desperate thugs.

    On the down side… more carjacking by malevolent totalitarian thugs.

  18. mkey says:

    My personal stance on transpiration system as we deploy and use them: they’re terrible.

    There’s way way way too much being invested into transportation of goods which can be produced locally, mostly thanks to those dastardly trading agreements.

    There’s not enough being invested into security: roads are not maintained, there are no security features (such as railings in problematic turns,) many of the personal vehicles and public transpiration vehicles are very unsafe for use. The entire system is rigged to turn a blind eye and keep the insurance and oil tax money flowing. Also, lets not forget the lack of skill among the driving populace, that one alone sends shivers down my spine.

    Cars seem to have a tendency to isolate people, why else would there be so many people driving on their own? I’ll fully agree that being alone is a lot better than being lousily accompanied, but still there is something in the daily commute which seems to make people want to revert back into themselves. Also, road rage. I understand rage induced by fools whom seem to be completely unaware of the fact they have both theirs and your life at the fingertips, but that much rage isn’t exactly good for your teeth.

    I honestly think that a well managed and constructed public transportation system, which doesn’t have to be prohibitively expensive for sparsely populated areas, would provide for a safer and cheaper alternative. Along that it would provide for a lot more room for cyclists, which is important in areas where roads are narrow, such as they are usually in most of Europe. Here we have so ridiculously narrow roads one can’t safely pass by a pedestrian with traffic coming for the other direction.

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