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Then after 9-11, and I'm a Republican, George Bush immediately,

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publicly proclaims that he knows who did it. Within a day.

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He's on national TV saying, we're going to get Usama bin Laden.

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All the networks are saying this. And I'm thinking to myself,

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well, how do they know this?

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I'm the vice chairman of the Defense Committee. This information wasn't transferred.

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How do they know what I didn't know?

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And then they magically find a passport on the ground up in New York that magically

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fell out of an airplane when there's nothing but rubble around.

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I said, wait a minute, this whole thing's a scam.

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You're listening to The Corbett Report.

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Welcome, friends. This is James Corbett of CorbettReport.com,

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coming to you in September of 2025.

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And as we approach the 24th anniversary of the events of September 11th, 2001,

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I have a very special guest lined up for you today, specifically Congressman

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Kurt Weldon, who you might know, or maybe not, represented Pennsylvania in Congress

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for nearly 20 years. He's a graduate of Westchester University.

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He also earned a degree in fire protection and served as a firefighter,

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fire chief, and first volunteer administrator of the Delaware County Fire Academy.

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He's testified in the federal courts and before Congress as an expert witness on fire issues.

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He also served as vice chairman of both the Armed Services and the Homeland Security Committee.

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And he will be a headline speaker at the Turning the Tide 9-11 Justice in 2025

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conference in Washington, D.C.

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That's going to be taking place from September 10th to September 12th,

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helping to gain momentum for potentially a new investigation into the events of 9-11.

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And the link to purchase tickets for that event will be available in the show

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notes for today's conversation at CorbettReport.com but let's bring him on the

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program Congressman Weldon, thank you very much for taking the time to talk with us today,

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James, it's great to be with you and I want to start by applauding you and thanking

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you for your diligence and hard work.

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In bringing out the truth to the American people the families,

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the firefighters and the world about what happened before, during and after

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9-11 I appreciate that very much.

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And for people of a certain vintage in the 9-11 truth movement like myself,

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I'm sure they'll remember your impassioned speech on the House floor in defense

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of Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer and the way that he was being railroaded

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at the time in the cover up of the Able Danger program. Mr.

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Speaker, this is not some third-rate burglary cover-up. This is not some Watergate incident.

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This is an attempt to prevent the American people from knowing the facts about

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how we could have prevented 9-11. And people are covering it up today.

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And they're ruining the career of a military officer to do it.

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And we can't let it stand.

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But there are, I'm sure, people in the audience who don't remember those events,

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let alone your other connections to 9-11.

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In your own words, why don't you tell us not just about the Able Danger story,

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but your experience of 9-11 and why you are motivated about seeking 9-11 justice.

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Well, James, I'm a teacher by profession, educator at all levels,

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from public school, middle school to college and university.

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And then I worked for a large insurance company, the largest in North America,

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where I was responsible for risk management, training all of their professionals

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worldwide, and basically buildings and fire protection, loss control.

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While doing that professionally, I grew up in a fire service family,

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the youngest of nine, and became a volunteer firefighter when I was 16 and worked

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my way up and became chief of the fire department,

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state fire instructor, went back to school after I got my degree in education

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and got a second degree in fire protection.

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And when I went to Congress, there was no one focusing on the firefighters in

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America, so I organized the fire caucus.

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That caucus became and still is the largest in the Congress with 370 members

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of the House and the Senate.

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I was and still the leader, the founder.

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People like Joe Biden, Al Gore, John McCain were all my co-chairs.

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They did whatever I asked them to do.

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I traveled to all 50 states. I went to every disaster within days of the disaster

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happening, whether it was a hurricane, a flood or a tornado.

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And I reported back to the Congress on what we should be doing to assist these local responders.

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In that regard, I was on the scene at 93 World Trade Center attack the day after

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it happened, at the invitation of the New York Fire Commissioner Howard Safer.

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I spent the day there with he and DEA and FBI.

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I went through the parking garage that had been bombed at the base of the Trade

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Center, and I met a young fire officer who was rising up in the ranks named Ray Downey.

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Ray would become one of my closest friends. This jacket I wear today was presented

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to me by Ray Downey and the Fire Department of New York.

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On 9-11, he was the chief of all rescue.

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So he was the leader of the 343 firefighters, including himself,

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that died in that disastrous attack.

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I felt responsible for Ray's death, and I felt responsible because at the same

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time I was representing all the firefighters in the country,

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I was rising up in seniority on the Armed Services Committee,

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which oversees the entire defense budget for America.

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I was the vice chairman of the full committee with 60 members of the both parties,

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and I was the chairman of the Oversight Committee for All Research Funding,

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which at that time was about $180 billion a year.

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So my job was to oversee the funding for all of our labs, for all of our,

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we have 100 laboratories, including DARPA and laboratories that do work for

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the intelligence community, black programs. I was funding them.

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And so I had access to those programs if I wanted to get access because I had

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the highest security clearances.

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And in the late 90s, I did a hearing in 1997 on what I called asymmetric threats.

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And I said the threats of the 21st century will not be what they are today.

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And that hearing, which you can get from the congressional record,

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focused on four key areas.

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It focused on drones and the use of drones. Back then, no one was using drones.

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Today, everyone uses drones.

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The second was cyber. And that's where I got into the issues involving the intelligence

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of our services and the lack of fusion. The third was EMP.

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I wrote the EMP legislation, and I created the EMP commission.

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My staffer was the director.

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EMP is basically what's causing problems today, which leads to the fourth,

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which is directed energy.

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The U.S. and other countries are now using directed energy weapons,

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not just to take apart material things, but to affect the human brain.

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And the biggest concern I have for the future generations, and they're not aware of this right now,

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is there is work going on in America and around the world on the use of wave

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patterns to penetrate the brains of human beings to control their minds, their actions.

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Without their having any ability to stop that from occurring.

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That hearing took place in 1997, and as a result of that hearing,

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I looked at what the services were doing in standing up information-dominant centers.

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The Navy, Air Force, Army all had their own. The Army's program happened to

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be at Fort Belvoir, which is 15 minutes from the Capitol.

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So I would go down there, and I would look at what they were doing.

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I didn't get ready to enter the program. I didn't need to be,

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but I saw the process they were using and the fact that they were using new

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tools. Two of them were Starlight and Spires.

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They were software tools developed by one of our labs to do link analysis and

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data fusion of massive amounts of data.

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And what they were doing down at Fort Belvoir was not just taking military data,

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but they were using open source data.

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And I said, boy, this is really innovative. So I tested it a couple of times.

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And in 1999, November the 4th, at the suggestion of Clinton's Deputy Defense

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Secretary, John Hamry, he said to me, Congressman, you want to build a fusion

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center for intelligence? I said, yes.

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He said, I support you, but you've got to convince the FBI and the CIA,

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the two big behemoths, to allow us to use their data.

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There are 33 classified systems of the federal agencies, but the big ones are FBI and CIA.

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So on November the 4th of 1999, in my office, I had Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamry.

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I had the Deputy Director of the FBI and the Deputy Director of the CIA and

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I handed them a proposal to create a fusion center we called it NOAA National

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Operation Analysis Hub policy maker and war fighters tool to deal with emerging

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transnational terrorist threats.

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Henry said, we need it. I'll manage it. I said, I'll get it funded.

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I'm the vice chairman of the committee chairman of Oversight.

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The FBI said, we'll support it. And the CIA said, we don't want it.

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And we're not supporting it.

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Now, why did they say that is still the unknown question.

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Did they not want other agencies to know what was at that time being planned

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so other agencies could have access to information that they were going to be

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bringing forth in a classified manner?

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That question is yet to be answered. At the conference you alluded to,

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I will have one of five intelligence officers have now come public with me.

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It's not just me saying this.

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The Able Danger team and the program at the Army was called Able Danger.

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It was started by the Chief of the General Staff, Hugh Shelton,

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personally, and he tasked the head of our Special Operations Forces,

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General Schumacher, to run the program.

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The program was housed at the Army's LEWA facility, which is what I visited,

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and it was called Able Danger. I have a book ready to be published on it.

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The purpose of Able Danger, established by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs

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of Staff, with about 20 professionals pulled from various agencies,

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Army, Navy, Air Force, different intelligence, all intelligence leaders,

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was to create this program, this capability,

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to deal with Al-Qaeda.

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On 9-11, I got five frantic phone calls on my cell phone.

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The Capitol's under attack. The Trade Center had already been hit. I watched it on TV.

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These frantic phone calls, individually, were from those five Army Intel officers.

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Or not Army, they were from the Army Center. They said, we've got to see you

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right away, Mr. Chairman. I said,

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we're under attack. We've got to see you right away. It's about this.

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I brought them to my office in the Rayburn building on Capitol Hill,

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and they rolled out the charts.

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I have the charts. I can show you the charts. At some point in time,

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I'll get you copies. They're massive.

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They had identified every cell of Al-Qaeda worldwide by name and face.

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Every cell. Hundreds and hundreds of them.

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Two years prior to 9-11.

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One year prior to 9-11, they identified five key cells of Al-Qaeda.

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In the hot spots where we had terrorist attacks occur. One was in Nairobi,

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Kenya. One was in New York City.

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In the New York City cell, they identified names of Al Qaeda associated with

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that cell, including Muhammad Adda.

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Now when I saw that on 9-11, and they came to me separately,

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not together, I said, this is outrageous.

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Did you transfer this information to the Justice Department?

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And they said, we tried three times. We were blocked.

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I have the name of the person in justice that was contacted who set the briefings up.

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Give that name right now. Who is that? I can't give it to you right now, but I have it.

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It's Tony Schaefer's high school friend. If you have Tony Schaefer on your show,

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Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer, who will be at the program with me on September

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11th. It was his high school friend.

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And she will verify that she was in Department of Justice.

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Tony contacted her to brief her three times. They canceled that briefing.

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The briefing never occurred. The transmission of the information was never provided

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to the Justice Department.

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When 9-11 happened, I immediately got a call from the state fire marshal from

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New York saying, Congressman, can you come to New York? I said,

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there's no way to get there now.

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The Amtrak shut down. I said, I'll be on the first train when they start running.

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I was on the first Amtrak train in the Central Station. in New York,

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the fire department picked me up and took me down to ground zero.

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I was at ground zero at the headquarters of the fire department of New York

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while they were cleaning up the site.

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What really bothers me now is I never really in my mind even began to imagine

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that what I was looking at was nowhere near what would be the results of two towers collapsing.

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It just was not real. As I look back now, I can see that wasn't the case.

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And I'm walking around the perimeter of the two towers because we're looking

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for bodies. We're looking for 3,000 people.

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And I'm helping Ray Downey's kids look for a son. Two of Ray Downey's sons are

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firefighters in New York.

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One today, Joe Downey, has his father's job. That's why I wear this jacket.

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Joe Downey's the chief of all rescue in New York City Fire Department.

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The other is also an officer, a battalion chief in New York City Fire Department.

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I felt responsible that I allowed the CIA bureaucracy for whatever reason to back me down.

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Then after 9-11, and I'm a Republican, George Bush immediately publicly proclaims

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that he knows who did it within a day.

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He's on national TV saying, we're going to get Usama bin Laden.

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All the networks are saying this. And I'm thinking to myself,

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well, how do they know this?

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I'm the vice chairman of the Defense Committee. This information wasn't transferred.

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How do they know what I didn't know?

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And then they magically find a passport on the ground up in New York that magically

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fell out of an airplane when there's nothing but rubble around?

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I said, wait a minute, this whole thing's a scam.

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So. Okay, you've already raised several points that I need to get clarification on.

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For example, you raised the point that the CIA blocking the creation of the

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NOAA Fusion Center. 100%. Sorry?

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I'll take a polygraph. Yes, excellent. Okay, well, so you have said that why

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was the CIA opposing that?

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That's the mystery that needs to be solved, but you have also said,

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quote, two of the hijackers that were on one of the planes in New York were working for the CIA.

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They were on the CIA payroll, end quote. You are referring to Khalid Al-Maidar and Nawaf al-Hazmi?

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I don't remember the names, but I was told by one of the, I have a written letter

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that I have in my files, in my archives.

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I have the largest archives in House history from a senior FBI official who

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worked with one of my CIA friends who trusted me, who, by the way,

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died mysteriously of fast-moving stomach cancer four years ago after he was

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threatened by a guy that was one of three people in consideration to be the CIA director.

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This man in New York is a multimillionaire, called my friend and said,

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why are you helping Kurt Weldon?

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And John Quirk said, because Kurt Weldon's an American patriot.

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John Quirk died months later of fast-moving stomach cancer.

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That's our country. Can you confirm that technology exists to give someone fast-moving cancer?

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Is that something that the U.S. government does to its enemies?

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Absolutely. And I have a second staffer. My staffer co-wrote the book with me

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called Countdown to Terror, which I talked to you about.

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Dr. Peter Pry worked for the CIA for 10 years. He was their top analyst on Soviet and Russia.

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I brought him on my committee because I was working all the Russian issues.

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I was the co-chairman of the Duma Congress with Steny Hoyer,

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and I was co-chairman of the RADA Congress with Marcy Kaptur.

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Peter worked for me. He was a brilliant analyst. He wrote 10 books about EMP.

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When I couldn't get the response, and when 9-11 happened, I said,

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Peter, we're getting information now that they're about to use Iran for another terrorist event.

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I don't think it's the Iranian people, Peter. I think it's being done by intel

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and Peter agreed with me because we knew then how bin Laden was placed in Iran.

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He was placed there by intel. What people don't realize is, when Iran was our

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ally and the Shah was in power, our intel people trained the Iranian intel.

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People like Brennan and Clapper trained Iranian intel.

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When the Ayatollahs took over, they didn't change their intel agency.

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They didn't fire all the intel leaders.

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They stayed in place in the IRG.

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We controlled the IRG.

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It didn't matter who ran Iran.

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And what I found out through 10 silver bullets, and I'll be happy to go through

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them, is that after 9-11, after George Bush stands up on a podium at 9-11,

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and I'm a Republican, and puts his hand up in the air and says,

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we're going to come and get you.

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Bin Laden wasn't in Iran. I mean, he wasn't in Afghanistan.

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He had been deliberately placed in Iran, in Baluchistan.

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He was allowed to roam in Balochistan while we sent tens of thousands of American

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kids to die in Afghanistan, allegedly looking for the guy that did 9-11. I say allegedly.

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2,500, 2,500 of those soldiers came home in body bags.

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It's important to clarify what you're saying here, because there are two possible readings of that.

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One is that you're upset that the young men and women were sent overseas to

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die in Afghanistan in the pursuit of this fictional terrorist boogeyman when

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they should have been sent to Iran to die in pursuit of a fictional terrorist boogeyman.

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Or are you saying that the fictional terrorist boogeyman asset,

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whatever Osama bin Laden really was, was placed in Balochistan as a chess piece

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in a much larger geopolitical chess game that involves an incredibly sensitive

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region of the globe that just happens to be lusted after for its IP pipeline access,

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as well as the port of Gwadar connecting a logistical corridor there between

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China's Xinjiang and its route out to Africa?

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I'll let you pursue that, but what I'll tell you, I can take a polygraph on,

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and we'll do so publicly, and we'll state it here.

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After 9-11, after Bush made his famous speech, I too thought that's where this

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group was, in Afghanistan.

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So what did I do? On my own, as the vice chairman of the Defense Committee, I didn't go to the CIA.

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I didn't trust them. I went to friends that I knew that worked for Intel,

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and there was a group in Washington called the Cockroaches.

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They're all people that work for Intel agencies. They're all ex-military,

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but they wanted the truth to come out.

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And they would feed me raw data that wasn't being given to me as the vice chairman

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of the Defense Committee.

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And what bothered me was I would get reporters like Bill Gertz from the Washington

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Times, a great defense writer, come up to me and he asked me a question about defense.

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And I would say, Bill, that's crazy. Where'd you get it from?

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He said, well, it's anonymous source, Congressman. I can't tell you who gave me that.

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So I'd get back to the agency. I'd say, wait a minute.

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You people gave him that information. I'm on the committee. I'm the vice chairman of the committee.

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You're going to give it to a reporter who comes to me with anonymous source

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and I have to respond to that?

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I want the answer. What I did, I formed my own intel team.

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I had 20 intel professionals. They didn't get any pay.

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They met with me for breakfast once a week in the capital member's dining room privately.

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And I said to them, I want you to feed me raw data.

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Now, while this was going on, I took a delegation of three members of Congress

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to Europe because the king of Afghanistan, Zahir Shah, was living in exile with his family.

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I didn't want if we're sending troops into Afghanistan I didn't want the damage

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done to our troops that they did to the Russian troops who had not been accepted in Afghanistan.

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So since the king was in exile I went over and I met with the king I have the

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photographs of me meeting in the home with two members of congress two or three I forget which,

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meeting with King Zahir Shah to convince him to go back to Kabul and convene

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a lawyer Jorga which is basically a meeting of all the 1,000 tribal leaders. The king agreed.

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Went back to Afghanistan and convened a lawyer, Jorga. I was doing what I thought

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was the right thing for our troops to protect them.

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While that's happening, my intel team said to me, Mr. Chairman,

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we've got some startling information here. What is it?

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Well, we have information that Bin Laden's been sighted in a town called Ladez.

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We don't know where that is.

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We think it's not in Afghanistan.

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I went up to the bookstore on Pennsylvania Avenue and bought a map. I still have the map.

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I looked all over Afghanistan. I could not find the D's. I looked in Pakistan.

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It wasn't there. I found the D's.

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It's 10 kilometers inside the border of Pakistan in Iran, in Balochistan, in Iran.

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So I go to a classified briefing for the full armed services committee.

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60 members. I'm the chairman because the chairman wasn't there that day.

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I'm the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee as vice chairman.

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And I asked the question of the CIA.

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I have information that Osama bin Laden has been cited in a town called Ladiz

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and this is their response.

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Mr. Chairman, we've had similar reports. We can either confirm or deny them.

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I went through the roof. Here we are sending American kids over to Afghanistan

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and my own CIA won't tell me that's impossible.

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Three months later, my friends in Intel come back to me and say we have information

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that Bin Laden's being treated at a medical hospital outside of Tehran.

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I go back to the classified briefing, and I ask the same question.

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And I get the exact same answer from the CIA.

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We've had similar reports. We can either confirm or deny them.

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Then I get a question from the most prominent Democrat in the House,

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Jack Murtha, former Marine, chairman of Defense Appropriations.

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He brings Ron Klink to me. Ron Klink's still alive. Jack Murtha's dead.

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Ron will verify what I'm going to tell you.

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Jack said, you've got to go see Kurt. Kurt will investigate what you have,

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Ron. It was something about Iran.

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So Ron Klink comes into my office with a tall gentleman who I still have all

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his contact information.

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And Ron said, Kurt, Jack sent me here. We'd like you to meet with this guy and

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see what he has about Iran.

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I said, OK. The guy comes into my office.

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He was a knock for the CIA. You know what a knock is? Non-official cover.

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That's right. He worked for our CIA in the Middle East.

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And the guy went to Ron Klink, who went to Murta, to say, I want you to help me, Mr.

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Vice Chairman, to get into Iran. I said, why do you want to go to Iran?

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He said, that's where bin Laden is. I said, how do you know that bin Laden's in Iran?

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He said, the people I worked with in that part of the world have told me they know he's there.

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There's a $25 million reward for his arrest and capture. If you help me get

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to Tehran, I'll leave my ID at the hotel and I will go down.

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I'll bring him back dead or alive.

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That's the third source. Then I get a request. It's really amazing.

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I get a request from the Interior Department.

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The Interior Department's top bird

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expert wants to come in and bring the nation's number one falconer in.

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They spotted Bin Laden's birds, didn't they?

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That's right. The number one falconer in the world is a Maine citizen. His name is Alan Perot.

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Alan Perot comes to my office with two falcons on his shoulders, beautiful birds.

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And I said, now I'm on the Migratory Bird Commission overseeing all the refugees.

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So I figured that's why he wanted to see me.

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I had no idea what he was going to talk about. I thought it was about the birds.

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And he says to me, Congressman, I want you to help me go to Tehran because I

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can take America to where bin Laden is. I said, how do you know that?

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My falconers are seeing bin Laden's birds flying in Iran.

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I will tag his birds, and I will take America to exactly where bin Laden is.

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Alan Perot wanted me to be involved in a movie called Feathered Cocaine,

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which only was produced.

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But what they did to my family, they ruined my daughter's life,

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and my son died several years later.

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I said, I'm not going to get involved in a movie. I kept out of it.

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I got a call from two people, Michael Scheuer.

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Michael Scheuer was career CIA.

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Michael was the director of the Bin Laden Task Force. Michael called me at my

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home and said, Congressman Weldon, do you remember me? I said, yes.

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He said, Congressman, what this man is telling me, I think is true,

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because as the CIA Task Force director, I was supposed to have been given every

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piece of information, and he's given me stuff that I never saw.

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We want you involved as we do this movie. I said, Michael, I'm not getting involved. But thank you.

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Three months later, General McInerney calls me. Tom McInerney at my home.

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Same question. Congressman, we're working with a falconer. We'd like you to

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be invited. General, I respect you.

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I'm not going to have my family destroyed by scumbags.

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Scumbags. Now, look, I always respected the agency, and I still do.

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I have friends that work in the agency. There are some good people there,

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but there are scumbags there that have made millions, millions off the backs

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and lives of American young people and people around the world.

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Look, this is the point, though. This is the fundamental institutional point.

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People talk about the CIA, for example, as if it is a monolithic institution

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rather than a series of firewalls around these various groups that are working

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sometimes right next to each other, but in complete secrecy in terms of what

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they're doing. They don't even know what their neighbor is doing.

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This is the point. It is these little firewalled enclaves. And if,

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for example, they want an excuse to go into Iran, they can create the terrorist

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boogeyman excuse to go into Iran.

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That is the point. And I think we run the risk of losing sight if we keep following

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this Osama bin Laden thread as if that was the important part of this.

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No, 9-11 was a much bigger operation than that.

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And I don't disagree with you, but let me go back to why I feel the way I feel,

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because it doesn't end there.

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I eventually, as the U.S., the 9-11 Commission was a total fraud and a total cover-up.

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Zelikow was picked because he was Rice's friend. So Rice put Zelikow in to run

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the commission, and the Democrats put Jamie Gurelick on the commission.

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They ran the commission.

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Jamie Gurelick was the lawyer who, when worked for Bill Clinton in the Pentagon,

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wrote the firewall memo that said you can't transfer military intelligence to

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civilian law enforcement. They ran the commission.

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Some of the commissioners are friends of mine. And they told me.

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They knew they were being denied the facts and details about the 9-11 commission.

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What I did, because I did a lot of work in the Middle East, I did work for all

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the GCC countries and I traveled to Israel there's no country that can say they

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don't know Kurt Weldon and respected me all of them.

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Two of the royal family members of two royal families, one in Kuwait and one

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in Saudi Arabia, verified to me in person that they knew that bin Laden was in Iran.

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They knew that bin Laden was in the ultimate.

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Was I met with a guy who had been a knock for agency for 50 years.

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He's not a U.S. citizen. He lives abroad.

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In fact, he lives in the Middle East.

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He's in his close to 80 now. Very still, very alert.

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I've been with him probably 25 times. When he first approached me through one

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of the people he handled, I said, I don't want to work for any agency, so don't even ask me.

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And he said, no, you have a lot of contacts and people respect you around the world.

00:28:45.858 --> 00:28:49.038
You've been to 104 countries and they all respect, because you weren't out putting

00:28:49.038 --> 00:28:51.858
your hand out for money or trying to cause problems.

00:28:51.958 --> 00:28:56.158
I said, well, if it helps the country, I'll talk to you. So we've become friends.

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He said to me in a meeting in Bahrain on one of my trips six years ago he calls

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me my dear he said my dear you were correct he said bin Laden was in Iran after

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9-11 I said why would you say that,

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he said because I was in the room,

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acting on behalf of US interests to give the US plausible liability when the

00:29:21.218 --> 00:29:26.378
deal was cut to place bin Laden in Balochistan I was in the room.

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Five years ago, we killed Soleimani.

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I text my friend. Was that the guy?

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Within five seconds, he texts back, yes. The deal was not cut with the Iranian government.

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It was not cut with Ahmadinejad.

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It was cut with the head of the IRG, Soleimani. And that's why we killed Soleimani.

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Because Soleimani was the guy that broke the deal to allow bin Laden to be placed

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in Iran without the knowledge of the Iranian government.

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The Birdman went up to the U.N. many times, and he actually got George Stephanopoulos

00:30:09.729 --> 00:30:11.449
to ask the question of Ahmadinejad.

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George Stephanopoulos used to work on the House floor as a lackey for Dick Edport.

00:30:16.249 --> 00:30:18.969
I know George Stephanopoulos when he was a lackey on the House floor.

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And he got George Stephanopoulos, the TV guy, to ask the question of Ahmadinejad, jokingly.

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Mr. Leader, you know, there are people over here saying that you're harboring bin Laden.

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And Ahmadinejad said, no way would we ever harbor that man in our country. He went back to Tehran.

00:30:35.609 --> 00:30:42.369
He did his research. And he found out he was in Iran. And he was placed there by the IRG.

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That's when they kicked him over to Pakistan.

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Now, the full dimension of what you're talking about, the bigger picture,

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I don't know that. I can tell you this.

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The book that I published about Iran in 2005 was because I feared our intelligence

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agency was going to use Iran for another attack.

00:31:00.409 --> 00:31:04.589
I wrote this book with Peter Pry. This book, and you see the front cover,

00:31:05.049 --> 00:31:09.529
and it says right on the front cover, top secret information being ignored by

00:31:09.529 --> 00:31:11.289
the CIA. I took them on publicly.

00:31:11.729 --> 00:31:17.409
This book was endorsed by Jim Woolsey, former CIA director, with a three-page letter.

00:31:17.809 --> 00:31:22.569
This book was endorsed by Jack Caravelli, Al Gore's CIA advisor.

00:31:22.829 --> 00:31:27.529
They both endorsed the book in 2005. One year later, the deep state took me

00:31:27.529 --> 00:31:32.029
out of office because I was going to become the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee.

00:31:32.189 --> 00:31:36.029
And they knew they couldn't control me and they knew that all 60 members of

00:31:36.029 --> 00:31:37.449
the committee would do whatever I wanted.

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In addition to my book being published, there's a huge Iranian diaspora in the U.S.

00:31:44.369 --> 00:31:47.309
A million Iranians primarily living in Southern California.

00:31:47.609 --> 00:31:49.969
When I wrote my book, they invited me out to speak.

00:31:50.349 --> 00:31:53.729
They gave me an award out there from the Engineers Society and I spoke.

00:31:53.929 --> 00:31:59.049
I did live TV interviews to the TV networks broadcasting into Iran. I did five shows.

00:31:59.629 --> 00:32:04.169
I offered to debate the Ayatollah personally in Tehran I offered to go there

00:32:04.169 --> 00:32:11.729
on the show the Iranians took my book on their own published my book in Farsi there it is.

00:32:13.276 --> 00:32:18.236
Countdown to Terror in Farsi, it became a very popular book in Iran because

00:32:18.236 --> 00:32:21.676
it says the Iranian people are not the enemy of America.

00:32:22.376 --> 00:32:26.976
Well, this is the point. I mean, yeah, what you talk about in Countdown to Terror

00:32:26.976 --> 00:32:30.996
is, of course, going to appeal to the elements in Iranian society that are against

00:32:30.996 --> 00:32:32.936
the theocratic regime, of course.

00:32:33.136 --> 00:32:36.836
In the same way, Ahmed Chalabi appealed to a certain segment of Iraq,

00:32:36.956 --> 00:32:39.756
but it's a neocon wet dream to get the U.S.

00:32:40.056 --> 00:32:44.496
Military into another part of the globe. That's what that kind of intel is about.

00:32:44.656 --> 00:32:48.676
And in Countdown to Terror, there's no differentiation between the Iranian government

00:32:48.676 --> 00:32:50.916
and the IRG. You weren't making those kinds of distinctions.

00:32:50.936 --> 00:32:51.916
We didn't know that at the time.

00:32:52.296 --> 00:32:57.256
Well, exactly. So in a sense, you were being played by information that was

00:32:57.256 --> 00:32:59.236
being precluded from you. Everybody in Congress is being played.

00:32:59.356 --> 00:33:00.496
I mean, that's nothing new. Exactly.

00:33:00.796 --> 00:33:03.356
Exactly. That's the whole point of these intelligence operations.

00:33:03.456 --> 00:33:04.856
I was there for 20 years. I never played a game they played.

00:33:04.976 --> 00:33:07.496
I couldn't trust the CIA. I told you that at the beginning of the interview.

00:33:07.756 --> 00:33:11.556
I could not trust the CIA. I know. I formed my own team. I had my own intel

00:33:11.556 --> 00:33:13.716
coming to me. Because I couldn't trust the CIA.

00:33:14.656 --> 00:33:20.896
Because they lied all the time. Did you see the WikiLeaks report with the former

00:33:20.896 --> 00:33:23.816
head of the CIA, Mike Pompeo? Did you see it? Yeah.

00:33:25.416 --> 00:33:28.496
What's the cadet motto at West Point? You will not lie, cheat,

00:33:28.516 --> 00:33:29.876
or steal, or tolerate those who do.

00:33:31.096 --> 00:33:34.036
I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole.

00:33:36.256 --> 00:33:39.436
We had entire training courses.

00:33:42.336 --> 00:33:45.336
That's our director of the CIA. It's got to stop.

00:33:45.956 --> 00:33:51.596
And until that stops, it's going to continue. Peter Pry died of fast-moving

00:33:51.596 --> 00:33:56.836
stomach cancer about nine months apart from John Quirk,

00:33:57.036 --> 00:34:01.376
who had been threatened by a former international CIA leader who's a scumbag

00:34:01.376 --> 00:34:03.256
making a ton of money based in New York.

00:34:04.616 --> 00:34:07.396
I'm sick of them. And I don't care. All they can do now is kill me.

00:34:07.596 --> 00:34:12.576
And you know what I've said on 10 podcasts? I'll surround CIA headquarters with 600 firetrucks.

00:34:12.836 --> 00:34:18.236
Let those jackasses explain to the American people why 600 firetrucks are surrounding

00:34:18.236 --> 00:34:20.256
CIA headquarters. Because it's out of control.

00:34:20.956 --> 00:34:24.456
I did that when I wanted to give interoperable communications for firefighters.

00:34:24.676 --> 00:34:28.316
I surrounded the Capitol building with 300 firetrucks. And I put ladders up

00:34:28.316 --> 00:34:29.556
against the Capitol itself.

00:34:29.816 --> 00:34:32.556
The firefighters know. They're no longer stupid.

00:34:33.056 --> 00:34:36.796
And they're tired of being pleased. Excellent to hear, because we do need more

00:34:36.796 --> 00:34:41.056
people who know about what's really going on here. But the question is, what do they know?

00:34:41.216 --> 00:34:43.456
Who killed those firefighters on 9-11?

00:34:44.216 --> 00:34:49.996
I don't know that. I don't know. In the end, I don't know who actually I have.

00:34:50.156 --> 00:34:52.656
I mean, the dark secrets and where this will end up.

00:34:53.236 --> 00:34:55.276
I think it involved another country, obviously.

00:34:56.176 --> 00:35:01.496
And you have to think of who would have the ultimate incentive to want to create

00:35:01.496 --> 00:35:06.456
the most outrage in America to justify sending tens of hundreds of thousands

00:35:06.456 --> 00:35:09.416
of American kids to war, primarily in the Middle East.

00:35:10.336 --> 00:35:13.516
Or any rocket scientist could figure that maybe every

00:35:13.516 --> 00:35:17.136
ordinary person could figure that out i don't want to go there until i have

00:35:17.136 --> 00:35:21.736
factual proof i don't have factual proof today what i can talk about i have

00:35:21.736 --> 00:35:26.596
factual proof of and i will take a polygraph everything that i know about and

00:35:26.596 --> 00:35:31.756
i have not just myself the able danger team five of them are now talking publicly.

00:35:32.756 --> 00:35:34.696
That's to kill five people one was

00:35:34.696 --> 00:35:38.676
air force intelligence one was naval intelligence an Naval Academy grad.

00:35:39.016 --> 00:35:41.536
One was Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer, Army Intelligence.

00:35:42.296 --> 00:35:45.876
They're all now willing to tell the truth because they care about this country.

00:35:47.304 --> 00:35:51.844
Congressman Weldon, did Building 7 kill itself? No, it was brought down through

00:35:51.844 --> 00:35:52.784
controlled demolition.

00:35:53.564 --> 00:35:58.204
I mean, anyone, first of all, there's a tape of Donald Trump being interviewed

00:35:58.204 --> 00:36:01.884
on September the 11th by a New York station.

00:36:02.144 --> 00:36:05.984
You can see him standing there and the microphone in his face and the reporter

00:36:05.984 --> 00:36:09.804
says, Mr. Trump, you're one of our premier developers.

00:36:10.044 --> 00:36:13.284
Did you see Building 7? That wasn't hit by a plane.

00:36:13.964 --> 00:36:16.444
Donald Trump said, that was controlled demolition.

00:36:17.304 --> 00:36:22.044
On 9-11, Donald Trump said Building 7 was controlled demolition.

00:36:22.644 --> 00:36:27.744
The key thing that people have to listen to, because back in January,

00:36:27.984 --> 00:36:30.984
I kept quiet for 18 years for obvious reasons.

00:36:31.804 --> 00:36:34.804
They took my family apart. What do you do?

00:36:35.264 --> 00:36:39.964
I couldn't trust them. It was both parties. I grew up next to Joe Biden.

00:36:40.364 --> 00:36:44.844
He grew up in Plamont, Delaware. I grew up in Marcus Hook. I've known Biden for 40 years.

00:36:44.844 --> 00:36:50.284
When my son died, Joe Biden drove from Washington and spent three hours standing

00:36:50.284 --> 00:36:55.804
in line at the funeral because his daughter, Ashley, was my son's classmate at Archmere Academy.

00:36:56.304 --> 00:36:58.104
I know. But Joe wasn't in control.

00:36:58.764 --> 00:37:00.344
Obama wasn't in control.

00:37:01.244 --> 00:37:07.844
Bush 43 was not in control. And the Clintons were scumbags. Is Donald Trump in control?

00:37:09.304 --> 00:37:14.104
Well, at least he's willing to stand up and take, when he took away the security

00:37:14.104 --> 00:37:18.704
clearances for the 51 that I know, that's when I said I'll talk.

00:37:19.104 --> 00:37:22.484
No one else had that kind of guts. No one.

00:37:23.773 --> 00:37:28.833
No one had the guts to stand up and take away the clearances of John Brennan

00:37:28.833 --> 00:37:34.233
and Clapper and Bolton and all the rest of them that I knew he did.

00:37:34.653 --> 00:37:38.033
I don't never met Trump. I don't know the man. Don't never met him.

00:37:38.693 --> 00:37:42.433
All I know is I don't know who else is going to take on this system.

00:37:43.293 --> 00:37:45.693
I can complain all I want and go around screaming and yelling,

00:37:45.813 --> 00:37:47.733
give me money, give me money. That's not going to solve the problem.

00:37:48.393 --> 00:37:49.673
You have to have a leader that has guts.

00:37:50.393 --> 00:37:56.473
And I've never met Trump, but he had the guts to say, I'm taking away the security

00:37:56.473 --> 00:37:57.993
clearances. I said, well, then I'll talk.

00:37:58.193 --> 00:38:03.113
And so in April, I did the first podcast with Tucker. I've done 10.

00:38:03.433 --> 00:38:08.893
We've got 20 million views. And I'm not going to stop. Now, my goal is I have

00:38:08.893 --> 00:38:10.053
an agenda for the firefighters.

00:38:10.733 --> 00:38:15.693
It's not the 9-11 agenda. The reason I went to 9-11 is I came out with a fire

00:38:15.693 --> 00:38:18.673
EMS 290 plan because they're hurting right now.

00:38:19.233 --> 00:38:23.013
They're my people. There are 2 million of them in 55,000 stations,

00:38:23.533 --> 00:38:27.453
30,000 departments, paid and volunteered. They're not being listened to.

00:38:28.273 --> 00:38:32.593
That's my goal. And what I said to the 9-11 groups that are out there,

00:38:32.813 --> 00:38:36.193
I said, you know, you have a good message, but nobody's paying attention to you.

00:38:36.553 --> 00:38:41.493
You've got to relate to the people who everyone in every town respects in every poll in America.

00:38:41.593 --> 00:38:46.113
I was the keynote speaker at the California Fire Chiefs a year ago. And I told them this.

00:38:46.893 --> 00:38:50.413
700 fire chiefs from California. I said, stop sucking up the politicians.

00:38:51.233 --> 00:38:55.613
I said, the popularity of both political parties is no higher than 45%.

00:38:55.613 --> 00:38:59.113
I said, police are around 50%, and I support the police.

00:38:59.553 --> 00:39:03.673
The military is around 50%, and I support the military. In every poll,

00:39:04.013 --> 00:39:08.013
in every state, firefighters and EMS are 98% supported.

00:39:09.621 --> 00:39:14.061
Tell the story through the eyes of the firefighter. And I would say this is very important.

00:39:14.101 --> 00:39:18.741
If you really want your viewers to get the ultimate story, there's a film that

00:39:18.741 --> 00:39:25.181
came out that I wasn't aware of until last year that you need to get to do them for free.

00:39:25.341 --> 00:39:27.761
It's an hour and a half long and it wasn't done by Hollywood.

00:39:27.981 --> 00:39:28.981
You can't trust Hollywood.

00:39:29.321 --> 00:39:32.521
They're a bunch of losers. This film was done by firefighters.

00:39:34.121 --> 00:39:41.041
It's called Bravo 7 2020. I will provide it through you or directly if they contact me.

00:39:41.261 --> 00:39:44.101
I've sent out tens of thousands of Bravo 7.

00:39:44.541 --> 00:39:47.641
Bravo 7 specifically goes through Building 7.

00:39:48.881 --> 00:39:53.921
And it explains what happened. Two things I want to mention to you.

00:39:54.881 --> 00:39:59.301
The government touts the NIST report of Bravo 7.

00:39:59.741 --> 00:40:02.881
The NIST report. Like they're the almighty agency.

00:40:03.021 --> 00:40:09.001
Now look, I'm a big supporter of technology. I was a head of fire and EMS at my insurance company.

00:40:09.881 --> 00:40:12.981
My first term in Congress, I go to Washington.

00:40:13.121 --> 00:40:18.041
I'm assigned to the Longworth building, two doors from Speaker Wright's office suite.

00:40:18.841 --> 00:40:21.081
Seven o'clock at night, his office catches on fire.

00:40:22.041 --> 00:40:25.241
I do what any firefighter would do. I have my staff call the alarm in.

00:40:25.421 --> 00:40:27.421
I go up, kick the door open, got down on my hands and knees,

00:40:27.521 --> 00:40:29.161
crawled in to make sure the staff was out.

00:40:30.241 --> 00:40:36.221
The building, to make a long story short, the extinguishers weren't charged.

00:40:36.661 --> 00:40:40.241
There was no hose in the hose station. There was no sprinklers,

00:40:40.361 --> 00:40:42.981
no alarm system, no automatic recall of elevators.

00:40:43.681 --> 00:40:48.181
No alarm system. Let me guess. The building completely collapsed in on its own footprint, right?

00:40:49.061 --> 00:40:54.061
Yeah. Well, that could be. But NIST, this agency that claims they're the ultimate,

00:40:54.361 --> 00:41:01.301
allowed 535 members of Congress to work in six buildings that would be in violation

00:41:01.301 --> 00:41:03.661
of every building and fire code in the world.

00:41:04.341 --> 00:41:09.361
The life safety code is the NFPA standard for buildings like that, seven stories high.

00:41:09.561 --> 00:41:13.741
This building was in total violation where every member of Congress worked,

00:41:13.981 --> 00:41:16.461
where blind people went, where handicapped people went.

00:41:16.581 --> 00:41:19.941
So NIST is a bunch of garbage. They have no credibility.

00:41:21.321 --> 00:41:25.441
I wrote the next day, the Speaker's Chief of Staff called me.

00:41:25.861 --> 00:41:30.221
I was a freshman Republican, and he said, the Speaker will do whatever you want, Congressman.

00:41:30.561 --> 00:41:34.581
I said, I want a special commission to retrofit these buildings.

00:41:35.221 --> 00:41:37.821
Go back and check the records of the Congress. The next day,

00:41:37.881 --> 00:41:41.461
I offered a privileged resolution. It passed the House with the Speaker's support.

00:41:41.901 --> 00:41:46.001
A four-member commission was named. I was on it. We retrofitted every building

00:41:46.001 --> 00:41:48.821
on Capitol Hill with sprinklers, detectors, and alarms.

00:41:48.961 --> 00:41:52.861
That wasn't done because of NIST. It was done in spite of NIST.

00:41:53.441 --> 00:41:55.021
NIST has no credibility.

00:41:55.621 --> 00:41:59.881
And for anyone to say NIST is the answer for Building 7 is garbage.

00:42:01.349 --> 00:42:07.969
The second point I want to make about this whole issue is the film I talked to you about, Bravo 7.

00:42:09.009 --> 00:42:15.289
In there, you'll hear a one audio segment that they tried to hide from the people.

00:42:15.529 --> 00:42:19.969
And the New York Times went to court and were able to get it released under a FOIA.

00:42:20.629 --> 00:42:24.889
It's the audio communication of Battalion Chief Orio Palmer.

00:42:25.389 --> 00:42:29.529
As he takes his group of firefighters, fully equipped with 40 pounds of gear

00:42:29.529 --> 00:42:34.649
each, They go into one of the elevators in the building, the tower.

00:42:34.969 --> 00:42:37.649
They go up to the 40th floor. He gets the elevator working.

00:42:38.169 --> 00:42:42.289
Right after the plane hits, they get off the elevator at the 40th floor,

00:42:42.349 --> 00:42:44.089
and then you hear him talk in the film.

00:42:44.889 --> 00:42:49.769
And you hear Battalion Chief Palmer say, we're on the 40th floor,

00:42:49.909 --> 00:42:51.629
and we're going up. Everything's okay.

00:42:53.289 --> 00:42:57.649
We're on the 50th floor. Knock it down with three lines is, I think, what they get to, right?

00:42:58.769 --> 00:43:01.509
They get up, they climb up to the 78th floor.

00:43:02.469 --> 00:43:06.089
They come out of the stair tower. And you hear him as plain as day say,

00:43:06.089 --> 00:43:08.889
we're on the 78th floor, the floor of impact.

00:43:09.149 --> 00:43:11.449
We've got two fires and we can handle them.

00:43:12.469 --> 00:43:16.449
We've got two, I'm sorry, the pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it

00:43:16.449 --> 00:43:18.569
down with two lines. Let me know that.

00:43:19.029 --> 00:43:22.129
78th floor, and it's number 1045, call one. Ah!

00:43:23.152 --> 00:43:28.252
And the building collapses one minute later. Anyone who believes the story of

00:43:28.252 --> 00:43:32.892
our government has accepted the biggest conspiracy theory in the history of mankind.

00:43:33.232 --> 00:43:37.232
Well, Congressman Weldon, the most infuriating part of all of that is that I

00:43:37.232 --> 00:43:40.352
heard those clips when they were first released nearly two decades ago,

00:43:40.532 --> 00:43:44.312
and it is gobstopping to me that there are Americans out there who haven't heard

00:43:44.312 --> 00:43:46.612
that yet. That is insane.

00:43:47.292 --> 00:43:51.932
And that's why my message when I met with the fire, the 9-11 groups was,

00:43:51.932 --> 00:43:54.472
I said, look, my goal is the firefighters. That's my life.

00:43:55.112 --> 00:44:01.752
You need to get, you know, the government has, if you listen to the tape by

00:44:01.752 --> 00:44:06.772
the former CIA director, they have whole courses on how to lie, on how to manipulate.

00:44:07.212 --> 00:44:10.992
They train their agency people, and the media is totally, the media won't let

00:44:10.992 --> 00:44:13.852
me come on. I used to be on the media all the time. I was on CNN.

00:44:14.012 --> 00:44:17.052
I was on, I mean, that's why Tucker Carlson took me, because he knew me.

00:44:17.592 --> 00:44:20.812
And Tucker was appalled when I finally got to interact. They don't want to,

00:44:20.992 --> 00:44:22.432
I'll tell you who interviewed me.

00:44:23.072 --> 00:44:26.972
Dennis Kucinich, a big supporter of mine, Democrat, asked me to meet with Seymour

00:44:26.972 --> 00:44:31.032
Hersh six years ago, five years ago. So I said, I don't want any more stories, Dennis.

00:44:31.132 --> 00:44:35.172
He said, will you meet with him? I met with Seymour Hersh in a hotel in Washington,

00:44:35.332 --> 00:44:37.812
just he and I. And I showed him what I have and talked to him about everything.

00:44:38.312 --> 00:44:40.272
And he said to me, you have one hell of a story, Congressman.

00:44:41.072 --> 00:44:43.172
And he said, but, you know, I can't take what you're saying.

00:44:43.272 --> 00:44:45.252
I said, I'm not asking you. You have no permission to publish anything.

00:44:45.432 --> 00:44:46.512
We met four months later.

00:44:47.172 --> 00:44:50.292
And he said to me, Congressman, I verified every fact in detail. you gave me.

00:44:50.792 --> 00:44:53.732
He said, everything you said is true. Brennan and Clapper wanted you out.

00:44:53.892 --> 00:44:57.032
They went to Mueller, asked Mueller to do a favor, disrupt your election.

00:44:57.512 --> 00:45:00.952
Three weeks before the election, Mueller sends Sklamburg to raid your daughter's house.

00:45:01.032 --> 00:45:04.272
Sklamburg was the same lawyer that cut the plea bargain for Sandy Berger when

00:45:04.272 --> 00:45:06.112
he stole the documents out of the archives, remember?

00:45:06.792 --> 00:45:10.712
When he stole the five documents and destroyed them, he committed 11 felonies.

00:45:11.052 --> 00:45:13.992
Sklamburg cut it down to one misdemeanor. That's the guy that sent agents to

00:45:13.992 --> 00:45:16.632
my daughter's house. They never talked to my daughter, ever.

00:45:17.592 --> 00:45:21.332
Never talked to her. No charge. Charges, right? Ultimately, no charges.

00:45:22.272 --> 00:45:27.932
Charges? They never talked to her! They never questioned her! Nothing!

00:45:30.696 --> 00:45:33.316
But it's worse. Let me tell you the story that you're really going to love.

00:45:33.796 --> 00:45:34.956
You're going to love this story.

00:45:35.356 --> 00:45:39.776
The same day they raided my daughter's house, they raided a lawyer in my county,

00:45:39.956 --> 00:45:41.476
a Democrat named John Gallagher.

00:45:42.356 --> 00:45:45.996
So agents went to his office in Philadelphia. They shut down Market Street.

00:45:46.196 --> 00:45:47.456
They had helicopters overhead.

00:45:47.696 --> 00:45:50.756
They had dogs. You know, it was a typical raid from Washington.

00:45:51.636 --> 00:45:56.816
The idiots never bothered to check that on the day that John Gallagher's law

00:45:56.816 --> 00:46:00.596
office was raided, because he was a friend of mine, He had been working for

00:46:00.596 --> 00:46:03.676
FBI counterintelligence against Russia for two years.

00:46:04.276 --> 00:46:09.996
So the counterintelligence agents handling John went to his office on that morning and said, Mr.

00:46:10.096 --> 00:46:13.256
Gallagher, we don't know what's going on, but there's people coming up from

00:46:13.256 --> 00:46:17.336
Washington, and don't say anything because you're working for us on sensitive matters.

00:46:17.576 --> 00:46:21.036
So he had two sets of agents in the same office at the same time.

00:46:21.156 --> 00:46:22.156
Now I have all this on tape.

00:46:23.196 --> 00:46:26.776
And the counterintelligence people are saying, John, don't answer anything.

00:46:26.776 --> 00:46:31.436
The FBI from Washington sent by the scumbags don't know why they're being sent.

00:46:31.596 --> 00:46:36.196
So the first question they ask, well, Mr. Gallagher, isn't it true that you're

00:46:36.196 --> 00:46:37.456
related to Congressman Kurt Weldon?

00:46:37.976 --> 00:46:39.656
And John starts laughing at them.

00:46:40.336 --> 00:46:43.436
He said, you're from the FBI. You come all the way from D.C.

00:46:43.476 --> 00:46:47.916
And the first question you ask me is, am I related to Kurt Weldon because his

00:46:47.916 --> 00:46:51.376
wife's maiden name is Gallagher? And you have bothered to check that?

00:46:52.496 --> 00:46:56.216
I know who told them that information. I know the person.

00:46:56.996 --> 00:47:01.216
And I know the person that told the FBI that lie. Now, it gets better.

00:47:01.536 --> 00:47:04.916
So John said, look, what do you hear? They apologized to John.

00:47:05.096 --> 00:47:08.396
And by the way, the agency gave John contracts after that to keep him quiet.

00:47:08.736 --> 00:47:12.976
But John said, what do you really want? They wanted two files.

00:47:13.256 --> 00:47:16.436
One file was about some Moldovan company that John's client said,

00:47:16.696 --> 00:47:19.616
because John represented a lot of Russians in Philadelphia and Ukrainians.

00:47:19.796 --> 00:47:20.916
But this is what they really wanted.

00:47:22.379 --> 00:47:28.259
The Philadelphia population northeast is heavily made up of Ukrainians and Russians,

00:47:28.539 --> 00:47:31.239
just the way it is, like Chicago is a lot of Ukrainians.

00:47:31.699 --> 00:47:35.859
So a lot of them drive taxi cabs in Philly. They use John for their legal practice.

00:47:36.019 --> 00:47:39.799
So John had lawyers that spoke Russian and Ukrainian that he represented.

00:47:40.459 --> 00:47:44.919
We had a 20-year-old boy in the Russian Far East named Alexander Koshin.

00:47:45.659 --> 00:47:52.119
He was in a car that was hit broadside by a drunken State Department employee named Douglas Kent.

00:47:54.799 --> 00:48:00.339
Drunk in a personal car, which is against protocol. He caused the 20-year-old boy to be quadriplegic.

00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.039
The family of the 20-year-old boy lived in Philly. They called Mr.

00:48:05.139 --> 00:48:08.079
Gallagher and said, will you help us? We don't want any money.

00:48:08.359 --> 00:48:10.519
We just want to get our son rehabbed.

00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:15.719
John took the case pro bono. He got the Bar Association involved.

00:48:16.359 --> 00:48:21.579
John did all the research. I have the file in my archives. John has the original file.

00:48:22.379 --> 00:48:28.939
Douglas Kent, when he hit that kid, wasn't just a senior State Department employee in Vladivostok.

00:48:29.059 --> 00:48:32.579
He was our top CIA operative in the Russian Far East.

00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:39.039
And when Douglas Kent was hired by the CIA, Douglas Kent was the vice chairman

00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:40.819
of the American Nazi Party.

00:48:41.279 --> 00:48:45.759
And in the file, John has a photograph of Douglas Kent in a Nazi uniform.

00:48:45.979 --> 00:48:47.919
And I have that photo in my file also.

00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:53.839
That's what the CIA wanted. The fact that they hired the former chairman of

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the American Nazi Party to work as an operative for them overseas.

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It's all there. It's all a record.

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Congressman Weldon, this conversation has taken a lot of turns,

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and I would still like to talk to you about the Cox Committee.

00:49:11.136 --> 00:49:14.016
I'd like to talk to you about North Korea and nuclear proliferation,

00:49:14.296 --> 00:49:16.756
etc. But I think we'll leave those topics for another time.

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Let's turn our attention back to the Turning the Tide conference.

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When is it taking place? Where? What are you going to be speaking about?

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What do you hope to accomplish with this?

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Again, my involvement with the 9-11 folks came about because I kept quiet since

00:49:33.856 --> 00:49:36.096
2006 when they ended my career.

00:49:36.596 --> 00:49:42.816
And I didn't speak out. I decided to speak out actually last fall when Trump

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won, and he took away the clearances.

00:49:44.996 --> 00:49:49.536
And I called all the 9-11 groups together on a phone conversation.

00:49:49.536 --> 00:49:50.956
And I said, look, I want to help you.

00:49:51.176 --> 00:49:55.556
My goal was to help the firefighters. I have an agenda called Fire EMS 290.

00:49:56.096 --> 00:50:00.696
Which has eight task forces to help them and I have the funding for that lined

00:50:00.696 --> 00:50:05.056
up and I said and I understand your concern and I want to help you with this

00:50:05.056 --> 00:50:07.236
but you can't allow the media,

00:50:07.796 --> 00:50:13.776
and the agency to portray you as being you know conspiracy theorists or wackos

00:50:13.776 --> 00:50:18.976
or I said that's what they've done you've got to get a base of people that are

00:50:18.976 --> 00:50:22.296
the bedrock of the communities in America I said that's the firefighters.

00:50:23.636 --> 00:50:27.476
Remember I said 343 firefighters were slaughtered at 9-11.

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I'm a firefighter. I'm wearing the shirt of the firefighter.

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I was there at both times. They're not going to bullshit me.

00:50:34.736 --> 00:50:36.756
If you let the firefighters know,

00:50:37.576 --> 00:50:42.056
that they have been used and abused by bureaucracy, they will rise up.

00:50:42.956 --> 00:50:45.676
It's just like what happened out in California with the wildland fires.

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You know, it was a total nightmare.

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They cut the budget of the fire department by 20%. What did the mayor of L.A.

00:50:51.216 --> 00:50:53.376
Do? She fired the fire chief, and it was a female.

00:50:55.147 --> 00:50:59.547
So firefighters now understand. And so my goal has been to rally the firefighters.

00:50:59.547 --> 00:51:03.627
And I've said to them, we have to get Trump to support this agenda.

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One of the task forces separate from this is the 9-11 Commission, which I proposed.

00:51:09.767 --> 00:51:12.607
They produced this document, at my suggestion.

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I've given out hundreds of these in Washington. This document calls for President

00:51:18.087 --> 00:51:22.527
Trump to name a new, not a new, there has never been a 9-11 commission.

00:51:22.767 --> 00:51:24.407
That was a 9-11 piece of crap.

00:51:24.787 --> 00:51:28.027
A presidential 9-11 commission made up of people with integrity.

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I don't want some has-beens who work for the agencies. I want people,

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I want firefighters. I want engineers.

00:51:35.207 --> 00:51:39.587
I want people like you who ask tough questions. I want people who know about

00:51:39.587 --> 00:51:43.027
the systems that control airplanes remotely that I know we have.

00:51:43.267 --> 00:51:46.447
I want people who know about thermite and know about explosives.

00:51:46.447 --> 00:51:51.327
I want those people involved in doing the investigation. The facts are all there.

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But until we get a presidential commission, we're not going to get the answers.

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And so this meeting, and I did my best to get bipartisan support.

00:52:01.367 --> 00:52:05.067
I've met with Ron Johnson now five times. Ron's going to show up and speak.

00:52:05.627 --> 00:52:09.107
He's a Senate Oversight Chairman, very strong man of integrity.

00:52:09.407 --> 00:52:11.267
He supports the firefighters nationwide.

00:52:11.987 --> 00:52:15.267
Dennis Kucinich is going to come. I met with Dennis just recently.

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He will be speaking. I'll be introducing him on the 11th.

00:52:18.927 --> 00:52:22.627
Tony Schaefer, Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer is coming. We've got people from

00:52:22.627 --> 00:52:28.447
intelligence, from the agency. I understand that one of the former CIA operatives is coming.

00:52:28.707 --> 00:52:34.887
We've got family members. so we're broadening the base of the message that you've

00:52:34.887 --> 00:52:38.307
been talking about for how many years? 20 years? How many years have you been doing this?

00:52:43.255 --> 00:52:48.455
Almost 20. Sorry, it's almost 20. Well, we need you to keep that up,

00:52:48.535 --> 00:52:49.975
but we need to give you the base.

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And I can tell you, it's resonating.

00:52:52.535 --> 00:52:57.875
After I did Tucker's show, I mean, I got overwhelmed. I couldn't even respond to people. I feel bad.

00:52:58.475 --> 00:53:03.315
Ask people to get a copy of the film for free, either through you or through me.

00:53:03.795 --> 00:53:07.715
Bravo 7, produced by firefighters. That will open their eyes,

00:53:07.755 --> 00:53:13.235
and they will see the lies. They will see this country right now is not being

00:53:13.235 --> 00:53:14.375
run by elected officials.

00:53:14.975 --> 00:53:19.855
It's being run by anonymous people who think like Pompeo said,

00:53:20.095 --> 00:53:21.975
we lied, we cheated, and we stole.

00:53:23.095 --> 00:53:27.115
That's not what we voted for. If I said that running for office, I wouldn't get elected.

00:53:27.855 --> 00:53:31.515
Here's the CIA director laughing about it. Oh, yeah, that's what we did when

00:53:31.515 --> 00:53:35.655
I was CIA director. And he was CIA director under which president again?

00:53:36.615 --> 00:53:40.575
Oh, right, President Trump. He was senator under Trump and State Department.

00:53:41.055 --> 00:53:45.675
But look, I say this to you. Trump, the people around Trump, he doesn't know.

00:53:46.215 --> 00:53:51.075
And this is the problem. I told Trump's people in 2016.

00:53:52.055 --> 00:53:56.395
He doesn't know the deep state. If he wins, which I thought he would back then

00:53:56.395 --> 00:53:57.455
because Hillary's a scumbag.

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If he wins, they will dismantle his ability to understand the deep state. What did they do?

00:54:03.395 --> 00:54:05.095
They took out Mike Flynn in the fall.

00:54:05.895 --> 00:54:10.475
I know Mike Flynn. by taking out Mike Flynn Trump had no one,

00:54:10.995 --> 00:54:14.815
that could give him any idea of how the deep state operates so he was like a

00:54:14.815 --> 00:54:19.515
baby in the woods for four years so he was a baby in the woods being manipulated

00:54:19.515 --> 00:54:23.075
by a bunch of people who think they're in control laughing at him working with

00:54:23.075 --> 00:54:27.195
people like Schumer and Nancy Pelosi who are both scumbags I worked with them,

00:54:28.215 --> 00:54:33.295
Nancy Pelosi made tons of hundreds of millions of dollars off of her job.

00:54:34.830 --> 00:54:38.650
And Trump, so for the first four years, didn't know what he didn't know when he got taken.

00:54:38.990 --> 00:54:43.330
Now he at least understood. But there's still people around Trump that he doesn't

00:54:43.330 --> 00:54:46.630
really fully know and doesn't fully vet it. And I've tried to help him with that as well.

00:54:46.870 --> 00:54:49.550
I had a meeting with the department. It gives Trump an easy out for anything

00:54:49.550 --> 00:54:52.770
that goes wrong and any other shenanigans that go on under him.

00:54:52.890 --> 00:54:57.310
I have zero trust or faith in the presidency at all, period.

00:54:57.310 --> 00:55:01.810
But I do hope that at the very least, we can raise awareness amongst the public

00:55:01.810 --> 00:55:05.270
who can bring the real pressure that can actually make a difference here.

00:55:05.410 --> 00:55:08.990
We are trying to rewrite the history books, and that is not going to be done

00:55:08.990 --> 00:55:13.590
by a president. That is going to be done by people getting to the heart of the matter.

00:55:13.810 --> 00:55:16.710
You're absolutely right. And here's what Cy Hurst said to me when I met four

00:55:16.710 --> 00:55:19.550
months after we met the first time. He said, Congressman – now,

00:55:19.630 --> 00:55:21.610
you knew Cy Hurst. He wrote the Pentagon Papers.

00:55:22.050 --> 00:55:26.910
He's a very respected investigative reporter by everybody. He said to me,

00:55:27.230 --> 00:55:32.510
no producer, no publisher will tell your story.

00:55:33.550 --> 00:55:38.250
Listen to me again. Cy Hirsch, the most respected investigative reporter in

00:55:38.250 --> 00:55:42.870
the country, says to me, no reporter, no publisher will tell your story.

00:55:43.010 --> 00:55:45.670
Even though I verified everything, they will not tell your story.

00:55:47.270 --> 00:55:52.770
That's the problem. I can't manipulate the media to tell the story.

00:55:53.250 --> 00:55:58.410
All I can do is my part as you're doing. And that's why I've now done podcasts

00:55:58.410 --> 00:56:00.830
and will continue until they try to end it.

00:56:01.290 --> 00:56:05.110
And even members of Congress, I can't tell you members that are afraid.

00:56:05.330 --> 00:56:07.590
I talk to members. They know what's going on, but they're afraid.

00:56:09.488 --> 00:56:12.028
Well, Congressman Weldon, you

00:56:12.028 --> 00:56:15.568
know, and I know that people have been assassinated for less than this.

00:56:15.708 --> 00:56:19.948
So I know that it is not nothing that you are out there saying this sort of

00:56:19.948 --> 00:56:25.108
stuff and bringing attention to it and talking at something like this Turning the Tide conference.

00:56:25.108 --> 00:56:30.808
So I, this is, I am cautiously excited to see what comes of this,

00:56:30.908 --> 00:56:34.328
because as you say, once we start connecting with the people,

00:56:34.548 --> 00:56:39.288
the people who do not know this basic information, have not heard the recordings,

00:56:39.408 --> 00:56:41.828
for example, of the firefighters in the building, etc.

00:56:42.248 --> 00:56:47.188
Once this information is more widely spread, I think we both know it will have an effect.

00:56:47.328 --> 00:56:51.388
So let's continue working towards that. And I hope that we get the chance to

00:56:51.388 --> 00:56:56.668
talk in more detail about this. I hope so too. I have the largest oral history

00:56:56.668 --> 00:56:58.148
in the history of the House.

00:56:58.348 --> 00:57:01.408
It was done by the past president of the National Association of Oral Historians.

00:57:01.788 --> 00:57:03.888
So we have 100 hours of digitized interviews.

00:57:05.128 --> 00:57:07.968
All digitized, annotated, indexed. Never been released.

00:57:08.408 --> 00:57:11.608
I have multiple copies of the hard drive. Each of my kids have one.

00:57:11.888 --> 00:57:15.028
Others have them. So they can't destroy it. It's recorded.

00:57:15.948 --> 00:57:18.988
These are with agents. They're with operatives.

00:57:19.288 --> 00:57:22.748
They're with Democrat and Republican members. And I would say to my friends

00:57:22.748 --> 00:57:30.668
listening who are the scumbags, I've documented everything about you on interviews, your names,

00:57:31.028 --> 00:57:36.788
what role you played, what ties you had, and what lies you did to this country

00:57:36.788 --> 00:57:39.208
and to the people. So they can take me out.

00:57:39.408 --> 00:57:41.868
They can't destroy all of that documentation.

00:57:42.308 --> 00:57:47.808
And my best friends today are people in, I'm with three federal judges in Washington.

00:57:48.428 --> 00:57:51.248
Judge Sullivan was the chief counsel for the Pentagon.

00:57:52.688 --> 00:57:57.288
I'm in his office. I don't pay any rent. They invited me to come there 10 years

00:57:57.288 --> 00:57:58.348
ago. That's where I have all my meetings.

00:57:58.568 --> 00:58:03.408
They know, they know in the deep state that I'm just not some guy out there on my own.

00:58:03.848 --> 00:58:07.148
They know I'm telling the truth. I don't have any money coming in.

00:58:07.448 --> 00:58:12.188
These scumbags that leave the agency and make all this money make me sick to

00:58:12.188 --> 00:58:14.348
my stomach. They don't care about the country.

00:58:15.108 --> 00:58:18.008
They don't care about, they're not doing what they're doing for the good of mankind.

00:58:18.808 --> 00:58:21.288
They're not doing what they're doing to help people. They're doing it because

00:58:21.288 --> 00:58:24.548
they want to get more money for themselves. They're scumbags.

00:58:26.168 --> 00:58:27.488
We've got to expose the scumbags.

00:58:29.548 --> 00:58:34.748
Exactly right. Well, let's continue operating in that spirit and going forward

00:58:34.748 --> 00:58:37.788
in that direction. But I think we'll leave this conversation here for today.

00:58:37.908 --> 00:58:41.028
I hope we get the chance to talk again in the future. Congressman Kurt Weldon,

00:58:41.108 --> 00:58:41.948
thank you for your time today.

00:58:42.468 --> 00:58:44.388
Thank you. Thank you.