WEBVTT 00:00:21.089 --> 00:00:21.169 We'll be right back. 00:00:23.922 --> 00:00:27.242 Welcome to The Last American Vagabond. Joining me today is James Corbett to 00:00:27.242 --> 00:00:31.202 discuss a topic that's been really pressing on my mind, something that I've 00:00:31.202 --> 00:00:33.342 been, you know, sensing for a long time. 00:00:33.442 --> 00:00:36.422 I think a lot of us have been sensing, but in this recent administration has 00:00:36.422 --> 00:00:40.482 become something that I just can't ignore that feels like pretty much the extension 00:00:40.482 --> 00:00:43.522 of the great reset that we saw initiated during Biden's administration. 00:00:43.822 --> 00:00:47.542 And it's been overlapping in my coverage with things like the network state 00:00:47.542 --> 00:00:51.282 agenda, with, you know, Trump's new Board of Peace conversation. 00:00:51.282 --> 00:00:54.222 And recently there's been a discussion that's overlapped with 00:00:54.222 --> 00:00:57.422 the Strait of Hormuz and the Iran foreign policy point and 00:00:57.422 --> 00:01:00.422 an interesting argument has been put out about 00:01:00.422 --> 00:01:03.562 whether or not this is essentially that great reset 00:01:03.562 --> 00:01:06.582 and I wanted to bring James on to discuss this interesting 00:01:06.582 --> 00:01:09.502 kind of intertwining of events and and you know kind of break down 00:01:09.502 --> 00:01:12.502 where we think this is going and discuss whether this might 00:01:12.502 --> 00:01:16.382 actually be the great reset how are you today James I am 00:01:16.382 --> 00:01:19.302 doing fine or should i say ohio because i am us christian son 00:01:19.302 --> 00:01:22.382 how are you doing oh okay japanese 00:01:22.382 --> 00:01:26.602 that's what was that how are 00:01:26.602 --> 00:01:29.502 you james i'm all right it's a 00:01:29.502 --> 00:01:34.002 it is seriously though i wanted to you know this thing it's it weighs on me 00:01:34.002 --> 00:01:37.602 this topic is it's heavy you know more than i mean say it was sort of like the 00:01:37.602 --> 00:01:40.402 technocratic idea because i actually should have included that like that to 00:01:40.402 --> 00:01:44.502 me is a huge part of this like kind of multi-faceted agenda and hoping you're 00:01:44.502 --> 00:01:47.082 you know your work is always so. 00:01:47.302 --> 00:01:50.462 You know, basically just help guide this in a way that might make it more sense 00:01:50.462 --> 00:01:51.662 for myself or other people. 00:01:51.842 --> 00:01:56.022 And, you know, so first, let's just start with the idea of this concept, right? 00:01:56.162 --> 00:02:00.842 So first, just not to get into like the Iran conversation itself, 00:02:01.042 --> 00:02:06.002 but ultimately, we saw this ceasefire conversation, which amounted to last point 00:02:06.002 --> 00:02:09.502 here, Donald Trump initiating or at least claiming to, point we could get into 00:02:09.502 --> 00:02:13.302 if you'd like to, it kind of feels like another bluster, but a blockade of the Strait of Hormuz. 00:02:14.163 --> 00:02:17.203 And this started an interesting conversation because it kind of seemed like 00:02:17.203 --> 00:02:18.163 it didn't make sense, right? 00:02:18.243 --> 00:02:23.863 This idea that, well, you're stopped blockading a blockade to reopen the strait. 00:02:24.003 --> 00:02:27.463 Like it didn't make much sense. And this argument came out of people arguing 00:02:27.463 --> 00:02:28.783 that this is a masterclass. 00:02:28.923 --> 00:02:31.683 That's a term that's been used all day today. And the idea that this is sort 00:02:31.683 --> 00:02:34.943 of an engineered plan by Donald Trump to essentially play the fool, 00:02:35.123 --> 00:02:40.203 which I have a hard time wrapping my mind around, to engineer this change. 00:02:40.203 --> 00:02:46.143 Now, what they're really focusing on is the global energy flow and oil and, you know, 00:02:46.223 --> 00:02:50.703 kind of circumventing to the United States and that through that sort of reengineering 00:02:50.703 --> 00:02:55.303 the way the global energy system works and almost in a way arguing that sort of like the U.S. 00:02:55.443 --> 00:02:59.143 Debt could be like turned and inverted to be their greatest asset and all these 00:02:59.143 --> 00:03:02.083 different arguments. And so I was wondering in my mind right then, 00:03:02.203 --> 00:03:05.763 is this sort of just a, an effort to just give Trump a pass to make it seem 00:03:05.763 --> 00:03:08.163 like his bumbling efforts are really just a secret plan? 00:03:08.383 --> 00:03:11.843 Or was this really like the plan? Like was, is this, because to me, 00:03:11.943 --> 00:03:15.503 I do see how this can connect with the great reset, with the technocratic agenda, 00:03:15.723 --> 00:03:17.963 with the greater North America, greater Israel. 00:03:18.203 --> 00:03:20.663 So, you know, I just, that's, I want to get in with you. What do you think about 00:03:20.663 --> 00:03:21.723 this and where do you think this is going? 00:03:22.256 --> 00:03:26.216 OK, there are several layers to examine here, but the first layer that we should 00:03:26.216 --> 00:03:29.276 probably get out of the way right away is the idea that Trump is personally 00:03:29.276 --> 00:03:32.096 making any decisions or strategizing anything himself. 00:03:32.456 --> 00:03:35.556 Of course, as we know, like every president throughout history, 00:03:35.556 --> 00:03:40.556 he is just a product of what his advisors and handlers and people who are feeding 00:03:40.556 --> 00:03:43.976 him information tell him to say essentially at various points. 00:03:43.976 --> 00:03:48.256 So let's not make the mistake of assigning any agency to Trump himself. 00:03:48.496 --> 00:03:51.596 But having said that, is there a greater strategy going on? Well, 00:03:51.736 --> 00:03:53.676 again, as I say, there are layers to looking at this. 00:03:53.896 --> 00:03:59.736 So the first order layer of looking at this move to blockade the strait that 00:03:59.736 --> 00:04:03.776 they want to open, it does make sense in a certain capacity. 00:04:03.996 --> 00:04:07.456 For example, I think the narrative that they are putting out there right now 00:04:07.456 --> 00:04:12.796 is that either all traffic goes through the strait or no traffic goes through 00:04:12.796 --> 00:04:16.596 the strait. We're not going to let Iran determine which traffic goes through 00:04:16.596 --> 00:04:17.716 the strait and put up their toll. 00:04:17.956 --> 00:04:22.016 So unless you open it up completely, we're going to close it down completely. 00:04:22.016 --> 00:04:26.156 And that does make sense from that perspective. If the if the goal is to pressure 00:04:26.156 --> 00:04:28.176 Iran into opening the strait, 00:04:28.796 --> 00:04:34.516 then we we apply pressure on them by taking away their toll incentive for traffic 00:04:34.516 --> 00:04:37.256 passing through the strait. That doesn't make a certain degree of sense. 00:04:37.376 --> 00:04:40.456 Right. That was their intention or their benefit. Right. Exactly. 00:04:41.256 --> 00:04:45.136 So that's the narrative that's put out there anyway. There are several things 00:04:45.136 --> 00:04:46.496 to interrogate about that narrative. 00:04:46.636 --> 00:04:49.856 One of which, as I'm sure you're aware, Kit Knightley has been writing about 00:04:49.856 --> 00:04:53.476 it off Guardian, is the entire question of this straight drama and, 00:04:53.918 --> 00:04:56.838 Is the strait closed? How was it closed? 00:04:57.038 --> 00:05:00.118 And in what way? And are there mines involved? 00:05:00.318 --> 00:05:03.998 But both sides said there weren't mines involved. But the anonymous press report 00:05:03.998 --> 00:05:06.018 said that the strait has been mined. 00:05:06.118 --> 00:05:09.658 But then Iran said that, yes, it's been mined, but we can't find the mines. 00:05:09.878 --> 00:05:12.338 But clearly that was the mine. I said they said that. 00:05:13.998 --> 00:05:19.738 Whatever. Anyway, people can keep up with that sort of back and forth and what that even means. 00:05:19.918 --> 00:05:24.078 So I think there is some degree of theater taking place around this issue in general. 00:05:24.938 --> 00:05:30.018 But yes, there is sort of the broader question of the larger... 00:05:30.566 --> 00:05:35.006 Picture of this. And there's, as usual, there's the 2D picture and the 3D picture. 00:05:35.146 --> 00:05:37.846 The 2D picture is the one that probably makes sense to most people. 00:05:38.006 --> 00:05:41.746 These are individual sovereign nation states that are warring against each other 00:05:41.746 --> 00:05:44.806 on the geopolitical chessboard for different squares of the chessboard. 00:05:44.946 --> 00:05:49.966 And in that regard, maybe this is, we'll call it a Trump master plan. 00:05:50.106 --> 00:05:52.766 But again, we know that Trump is not making any decisions himself. 00:05:52.946 --> 00:05:59.546 But the US side of this deep state is making the concerted move to actually 00:05:59.546 --> 00:06:05.046 generate the energy crisis by which they will be able to consolidate more of 00:06:05.046 --> 00:06:07.706 the energy market in American hands. 00:06:08.006 --> 00:06:11.586 And so the argument is essentially so they're closing down the strait. 00:06:11.846 --> 00:06:18.406 They have just taken over Venezuela. They are boarding slash bombing slash otherwise 00:06:18.406 --> 00:06:21.566 disrupting Russian tankers going into various locations. 00:06:22.226 --> 00:06:26.846 Meanwhile, of course, the Ukrainian proxies are targeting Russian oil infrastructure. 00:06:27.986 --> 00:06:34.746 Qatar has been their gas processing facilities have been damaged as a result 00:06:34.746 --> 00:06:36.906 of the retaliatory strikes from Iran, 00:06:36.906 --> 00:06:41.646 which presumably America could have calculated would have occurred as a result 00:06:41.646 --> 00:06:42.986 of this that are going on, 00:06:43.146 --> 00:06:45.626 perhaps even prompted that retaliation. 00:06:45.826 --> 00:06:51.106 So what we have is this energy crisis. And, oh, wait, who turns out to be now 00:06:51.106 --> 00:06:55.586 the biggest exporter of oil and gas in the world? Well, now it's the United States. 00:06:55.806 --> 00:06:58.286 Wow. You know, convenient, isn't it? And that's. 00:06:58.518 --> 00:07:02.818 If they bring in Venezuelan oil and other oil that they're tapping into this. 00:07:03.258 --> 00:07:09.138 And then we start to understand, for example, the strategic value utility of, 00:07:09.278 --> 00:07:13.958 say, Greenland in affecting an Atlantic or a northern blockade, 00:07:13.958 --> 00:07:18.418 which could be enforced in a future energy crisis or energy war. 00:07:18.418 --> 00:07:23.618 And the pressure is now going on to, of course, all of the U.S. 00:07:24.118 --> 00:07:28.218 Vassal states and allies like Japan, which is currently dependent for something 00:07:28.218 --> 00:07:32.138 like three quarters of its oil imports for oil coming through the Strait of Hormuz. 00:07:32.398 --> 00:07:36.278 Well, the calculus changes and, well, we have to buy American oil now, 00:07:36.538 --> 00:07:37.818 something along those lines. 00:07:37.818 --> 00:07:43.578 But also, I think ultimately, this is about pressuring China and Chinese oil 00:07:43.578 --> 00:07:48.598 and gas supplies are obviously there's been a lot of cooperation with Iran and 00:07:48.598 --> 00:07:51.998 Russia and other axis of resistance nations. 00:07:51.998 --> 00:07:58.098 But if China is pressured sufficiently, perhaps they will be maneuvered into 00:07:58.098 --> 00:08:04.278 something like a pre-World War II, pre-Pearl Harbor type strategy that the U.S. 00:08:04.338 --> 00:08:08.798 Applied against Imperial Japan, enacting an oil blockade, an embargo against 00:08:08.798 --> 00:08:10.858 Japan in the 1930s, which was... 00:08:11.031 --> 00:08:14.691 What was really the precipitory event towards the Pearl Harbor strike, 00:08:14.911 --> 00:08:17.791 which we know they were goaded specifically into that strike. 00:08:18.611 --> 00:08:23.491 A lot to say about that. But are we being positioned into some sort of World 00:08:23.491 --> 00:08:29.091 War three participant precipitory event that would be precipitated by China 00:08:29.091 --> 00:08:33.211 being cornered into some sort of energy situation where they they are getting 00:08:33.211 --> 00:08:34.631 starved from all of their allies? 00:08:35.151 --> 00:08:38.851 Now, that that, of course, brings in the three dimensional layer that we should 00:08:38.851 --> 00:08:41.231 be looking at into all of this, which is so OK. 00:08:41.411 --> 00:08:45.891 So if this is not simply nation states acting in their own sovereign best interests, 00:08:46.131 --> 00:08:49.991 what is the larger game plan and what is happening at a larger scale? 00:08:50.171 --> 00:08:53.551 And as people know, I have been examining this, for example, 00:08:53.691 --> 00:08:56.971 in my recent I did a recent podcast on the real end game in Iran, 00:08:56.971 --> 00:09:02.291 talking about how this is engineering us towards a new multipolar system, 00:09:02.611 --> 00:09:05.611 exactly like those brick saviors have been talking about for years, 00:09:05.911 --> 00:09:09.671 specifically predicated on a new international monetary order, 00:09:09.671 --> 00:09:14.751 because what we are looking at is the death pangs of the petrodollar system. 00:09:15.291 --> 00:09:19.991 I won't belabor it for your audience, who I'm sure have some inkling of a clue 00:09:19.991 --> 00:09:23.591 about what this is, but if they don't, they can go and look at my previous work on the subject. 00:09:23.811 --> 00:09:27.871 But long story short, in the 1970s during the energy crisis, 00:09:28.071 --> 00:09:32.611 right after Nixon closed the gold window in 1971, stopped the U.S. 00:09:32.671 --> 00:09:34.411 Dollars being convertible into gold. 00:09:35.291 --> 00:09:39.971 Suddenly, the entire international monetary order, which was at that time based 00:09:39.971 --> 00:09:43.271 on at least the idea, if not the reality, of the U.S. 00:09:43.371 --> 00:09:45.991 Dollar being convertible to gold at $35 an ounce. 00:09:46.231 --> 00:09:50.491 Okay, the international monetary order has a solid commodity gold backing. 00:09:50.791 --> 00:09:55.411 Suddenly, that backing doesn't exist. What can we use to backstop the U.S. 00:09:55.451 --> 00:09:58.331 Dollar? Why would anyone hold U.S. dollars in particular? 00:09:58.791 --> 00:10:02.191 Well, Kissinger, of course, was scrambling behind the scenes to create, 00:10:02.866 --> 00:10:06.586 at the behest of his Rockefeller deep state handlers, the petrodollar system, 00:10:06.806 --> 00:10:10.906 by which Saudi Arabia in particular, and of course, all of the countries that 00:10:10.906 --> 00:10:16.066 associate with Saudi Arabia would denominate their oil purchases and selling 00:10:16.066 --> 00:10:18.546 in U.S. dollars, and that those U.S. 00:10:18.646 --> 00:10:21.206 Dollars specifically would be recycled back through the U.S. 00:10:21.286 --> 00:10:22.546 Banking system into U.S. 00:10:22.626 --> 00:10:27.686 Treasuries as part of a security guarantee package that was going on. 00:10:27.886 --> 00:10:33.886 As I have pointed out recently, That system is is has been strained for a number 00:10:33.886 --> 00:10:39.746 of years and pressured by the creation of a potential petroyuan oil purchases 00:10:39.746 --> 00:10:41.866 being denominated in yuan specifically 00:10:41.866 --> 00:10:45.766 and and settled in local currencies rather than through the U.S. 00:10:45.866 --> 00:10:48.866 Dollar has put some degree of pressure on the dollar. 00:10:48.866 --> 00:10:53.286 But now we're starting to see even potentially greater pressure on the dollar, 00:10:53.486 --> 00:10:55.426 especially if Iran is able to, say. 00:10:56.546 --> 00:11:00.566 To put a toll on the strait so that only, for example, you know, 00:11:01.366 --> 00:11:04.086 yuan-denominated oil could pass through the strait, which was a story that was 00:11:04.086 --> 00:11:05.486 at least floated a few weeks ago. 00:11:06.006 --> 00:11:09.746 That would put even greater pressure on the dollar or at least the petrodollar. 00:11:10.106 --> 00:11:13.286 And the question is, so what system comes along to take its place? 00:11:13.446 --> 00:11:16.646 And wouldn't you know it, the BRICS nations have already been working on this 00:11:16.646 --> 00:11:23.306 for years. They have their alternative SWIFT, the CIPS, the cross-border interbank 00:11:23.306 --> 00:11:27.766 payment system that China has been assiduously working on for years. 00:11:27.966 --> 00:11:34.366 They have the BRICS pay system, which will settle international payments in 00:11:34.366 --> 00:11:36.486 local currencies amongst the BRICS nations. 00:11:36.486 --> 00:11:42.626 We see the RBI, the Reserve Bank of India, floating this idea that there should 00:11:42.626 --> 00:11:45.626 be an interoperable BRICS CBDC 00:11:45.626 --> 00:11:51.186 as a settlement currency, as a wholesale currency for BRICS nations, etc. 00:11:51.486 --> 00:11:56.646 So we're seeing the creation of this alternative infrastructure for an entirely new payment system. 00:11:57.042 --> 00:12:00.222 And it is important to understand that these concepts go together. 00:12:00.402 --> 00:12:04.602 A monetary order and a geopolitical order generally go together. 00:12:04.782 --> 00:12:09.862 It is no coincidence that the era of Pax Americana was defined by the U.S. 00:12:09.982 --> 00:12:11.482 Dollar as the world reserve currency. 00:12:11.662 --> 00:12:16.562 And if we start to see that breaking apart, well, then we start to see the possibility 00:12:16.562 --> 00:12:21.562 of a new geopolitical order forming based on some form of multipolarity. 00:12:22.642 --> 00:12:27.202 Now, this blockade of the strait and all of this, actually, I mean, 00:12:27.362 --> 00:12:31.062 it creates potentially a different scenario by which U.S. 00:12:31.422 --> 00:12:39.742 Hegemony can be maintained further by essentially undermining that new monetary 00:12:39.742 --> 00:12:42.582 order, the petroyuan or whatever was coming along to take the place. 00:12:42.582 --> 00:12:46.502 If suddenly most of the world is dependent on the U.S. 00:12:46.642 --> 00:12:50.182 Once again for oil, which would obviously be denominated in dollars. 00:12:50.522 --> 00:12:54.602 Again, there would be the incentive for states around the world to have and 00:12:54.602 --> 00:12:56.962 to hold dollars as the reserve currency. 00:12:57.162 --> 00:13:02.182 So it could be like what exactly what Brzezinski was talking about in the late 00:13:02.182 --> 00:13:04.442 20th century with his grand chessboard book. 00:13:04.562 --> 00:13:08.082 We need to find a way to extend unipolar U.S. 00:13:08.402 --> 00:13:11.162 Hegemonic dominance of the world into the 21st century to 00:13:11.162 --> 00:13:13.842 make it the new american century how do we do 00:13:13.842 --> 00:13:16.862 that well here we are at the doorstep of potentially 00:13:16.862 --> 00:13:20.382 another operation to do that and the perfect trump representation 00:13:20.382 --> 00:13:23.242 of that idea just belligerently muscle and 00:13:23.242 --> 00:13:27.662 weapons and just force it in apparently because my thought is that okay so you 00:13:27.662 --> 00:13:31.862 if that's the reality which makes sense you're essentially just by for the sheer 00:13:31.862 --> 00:13:36.302 muscle and military power just forcing this and how in the world that can be 00:13:36.302 --> 00:13:40.482 you know anything other than momentary you know So something's going to shift. 00:13:40.622 --> 00:13:43.382 And so that's interesting because clearly that makes sense. And that would mean 00:13:43.382 --> 00:13:46.522 to me that it's a means to an end, right? So right now they're scrambling to 00:13:46.522 --> 00:13:48.062 try to find a way to keep that going. 00:13:48.242 --> 00:13:51.282 Before we get more on that, hypothetically in the BRICS side of it. 00:13:51.785 --> 00:13:54.785 Is there a world in which you can see this actually? Because the way I felt 00:13:54.785 --> 00:13:58.045 that kind of going for a minute is more like, for example, during the COVID-19 00:13:58.045 --> 00:14:03.085 time frame and other examples, we did see kind of an insight to where even adversarial 00:14:03.085 --> 00:14:05.265 nations can work together when it comes to a larger agenda. 00:14:05.485 --> 00:14:09.565 So do you see a world in which this could be engineered for the BRICS shift 00:14:09.565 --> 00:14:12.985 and that Trump's energy and efforts or assault, whether he even knows it or 00:14:12.985 --> 00:14:16.205 not, are actually driving that into reality? Yes. 00:14:16.445 --> 00:14:21.065 And that is precisely because there is an interesting paradox, the paradox of power. 00:14:21.225 --> 00:14:23.765 I'm going to coin that term. It's probably been used before. 00:14:23.885 --> 00:14:29.305 But I think that the true strength and power of the unquestioned unipolar U.S. 00:14:29.385 --> 00:14:38.005 Hegemon of the Pax Americana era was not defined by the actual use of American 00:14:38.005 --> 00:14:43.885 military might around the world. It was about the implied threat of the possibility of that might. 00:14:44.065 --> 00:14:49.385 But interestingly enough, the more you actually use that actual military advantage, 00:14:49.745 --> 00:14:54.105 the less power you actually have on the geopolitical scale. 00:14:54.105 --> 00:15:02.525 And I mean that because what is the message that certainly in Japan and presumably Canada, 00:15:02.805 --> 00:15:08.765 Greenland, all of the erstwhile American allies are receiving right now is you 00:15:08.765 --> 00:15:12.425 are absolutely going to be kicked to the curb and then kicked while you are 00:15:12.425 --> 00:15:19.065 down and curb stomped if for any reason America decides it is in their interest to do so. 00:15:19.765 --> 00:15:23.045 And look, we can and we will do it and we are doing it. 00:15:23.205 --> 00:15:28.165 And now, you know, Trump is lecturing Japan about you're not committing enough to straight security. 00:15:28.285 --> 00:15:32.125 Therefore, you know, I'm not sure we want to protect Japan anymore. All of this. 00:15:32.485 --> 00:15:36.105 Every single player at the table understands that America is. 00:15:36.585 --> 00:15:40.245 Yes, absolutely. It has the biggest military in the history of the world. 00:15:40.645 --> 00:15:45.205 And there's no question that it could defeat any individual military that it 00:15:45.205 --> 00:15:46.485 chooses to take on at this time. 00:15:47.185 --> 00:15:50.805 But could it defeat all of the militaries of all of the world, 00:15:50.965 --> 00:15:54.145 committing all of the world's resources towards undermining the U.S. empire? 00:15:54.305 --> 00:15:57.745 Well, maybe not. And I think that's more and more the calculus that we're seeing. 00:15:57.865 --> 00:16:01.605 And of course, that's the one that's being floated by World Economic Forum Davos 00:16:01.605 --> 00:16:05.965 man, darling Mark Carney, Prime Minister of Canada, with his great sterling speech. 00:16:05.965 --> 00:16:11.065 We have to forge this new post-American world order and we have to stand up 00:16:11.065 --> 00:16:13.745 to the American empire. And yes, I mean, it's understandable. 00:16:14.225 --> 00:16:19.285 Of course, most of I don't I'll just inform you for any Americans in your crowd 00:16:19.285 --> 00:16:20.265 who might not understand this. 00:16:20.525 --> 00:16:24.105 Yeah, a lot of the world hates and resents American power at this point because 00:16:24.105 --> 00:16:29.585 that power is being wielded and used as an obvious and blatant stick to beat people over the head. 00:16:29.785 --> 00:16:34.145 Most people don't like that. So the more America actually uses its military 00:16:34.145 --> 00:16:38.045 power, like in blockading the Strait of Hormuz in order to open the Strait of 00:16:38.045 --> 00:16:44.045 Hormuz, people start to realize, oh, we thought we thought Iran were the kind of the bad guys in this. 00:16:44.145 --> 00:16:48.305 And Iran is the reason that we're you know, we're not able to get oil over here in Japan. Oh, no. 00:16:48.725 --> 00:16:53.065 Now it's the U.S. So now we hate the U.S. So there's an interesting paradox 00:16:53.065 --> 00:16:57.705 that goes on there. And yes, in sort of the short term immediate interests, 00:16:57.925 --> 00:17:00.625 no doubt this will work towards the benefit of the U.S. 00:17:00.765 --> 00:17:05.185 In that system, in that 2D system. But the longer term implication of this is 00:17:05.185 --> 00:17:08.765 that every player at the table is going to find ways of protecting themselves 00:17:08.765 --> 00:17:12.585 and distancing themselves and even aggressing against the U.S. 00:17:12.725 --> 00:17:17.745 Because we can't deal with this, you know, 800 pound gorilla basically beating 00:17:17.745 --> 00:17:19.645 its chest and getting its way whenever it wants. 00:17:20.088 --> 00:17:22.988 Yeah. You know, one of the things I think that is, is the biggest hindrance 00:17:22.988 --> 00:17:25.428 of like, even like the so-called experts in our military. 00:17:25.808 --> 00:17:28.648 You know, I mean, anything in our, in our system today where the experts on 00:17:28.648 --> 00:17:31.108 Iran seem to be experts on state department lies about Iran, 00:17:31.228 --> 00:17:35.988 you know, is that I see it sort of like the British military mindset to like the American rebel, 00:17:36.148 --> 00:17:37.648 you know, like the idea of just 00:17:37.648 --> 00:17:41.108 marching straight on and fighting versus running from the sides and tack, 00:17:41.268 --> 00:17:44.028 you know, so there's a shift in dynamics here. And I think, or I guess tactics. 00:17:44.328 --> 00:17:46.948 And I think that that's the way, like you're saying the military might, 00:17:46.948 --> 00:17:50.048 I would agree with that if it was basically just militaries marching and fighting 00:17:50.048 --> 00:17:53.088 each other, whereas that's not, you know, even the US is, you know, 00:17:53.128 --> 00:17:55.108 fifth generation warfare kind of direction. 00:17:55.308 --> 00:17:58.788 And so I think with Iran or Hamas and Israel, I think we can see a difference 00:17:58.788 --> 00:18:01.968 there that maybe, you know, yeah, maybe they can wipe out their military, 00:18:02.148 --> 00:18:04.248 wipe out their, you know, take control of the airspace to a degree, 00:18:04.448 --> 00:18:06.728 Navy, but are they, have they won? 00:18:07.088 --> 00:18:10.388 Is Iran effectively able to, you know, hold off and not lose in the same way? 00:18:10.468 --> 00:18:12.048 It's a different calculus, I think today. 00:18:12.248 --> 00:18:15.128 You know, I think that's what people are starting to see, but I think that back 00:18:15.128 --> 00:18:18.588 to the point of just the a military force to try to make this happen. 00:18:18.788 --> 00:18:23.128 Same kind of point as I think that's the US government not knowing how else to achieve their ends. 00:18:23.328 --> 00:18:27.328 It's just this military force. And I think to your point about the blockade 00:18:27.328 --> 00:18:31.628 to the blockade, how I get your point to the logic, but I think it comes back 00:18:31.628 --> 00:18:36.148 to the point of this wanting to be like, if the blockade is something they wanted to accomplish. 00:18:36.428 --> 00:18:39.328 And I think this is important in this point is like from like the lie about 00:18:39.328 --> 00:18:42.288 whether it was open, I'm going to keep talking about that from day one. 00:18:42.428 --> 00:18:44.908 I think we need to see that it was always open. It was very clear. 00:18:45.068 --> 00:18:47.248 I mean, you can see the traffic, general traffic was always going through. 00:18:47.388 --> 00:18:48.428 So it wasn't really closed. 00:18:48.548 --> 00:18:53.648 It was restricted, right? And so why did they, I compare this to the beginning of the Ukraine war. 00:18:54.408 --> 00:18:58.928 We had every news platform across the board saying tanks are rolling into Kiev. 00:18:59.128 --> 00:19:01.788 That didn't actually happen that first day, right? So the point was that it 00:19:01.788 --> 00:19:04.708 was a bunch of narrative of the way they thought they were going to respond. 00:19:04.828 --> 00:19:07.948 And it's the same thing. I believe this was sort of the plan. I think it was. 00:19:08.620 --> 00:19:12.240 Probably met in yahoo this is my opinion convincing trump 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:15.080 against our intelligence to go at this because he was he was 00:19:15.080 --> 00:19:17.840 convinced he would be his legacy he would take over ron the world would 00:19:17.840 --> 00:19:20.520 support him because they just clucked down the shut down the strait and the 00:19:20.520 --> 00:19:23.740 world would stand behind you because it would hinder the global economy but 00:19:23.740 --> 00:19:27.300 they didn't do that and yet the narrative was it was shut then we are floating 00:19:27.300 --> 00:19:30.940 mines and all this stuff and my my research shows that wasn't true at all not 00:19:30.940 --> 00:19:33.880 that they haven't or wouldn't but that they didn't this time and because they 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:37.200 didn't want to fall into that trap and so now the idea of them blockading it 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:41.660 in in response to them as sort of not doing that is actually making that the case. 00:19:42.080 --> 00:19:45.260 But the question is whether that's gonna be effective. But so if they do that, 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.400 the only way that works out in their benefit in my mind is that it's ultimately 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:53.080 them creating the blockage because to do it in response, I guess you could argue 00:19:53.080 --> 00:19:56.740 that would get them in control of the way that works, but what's happening? 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.500 Prices are going up, gas prices are going up, everyone's suffering. 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.480 And so I guess what I'm getting to is that from the perspective of like the 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:06.640 Americans who are at least in some ways claiming this is what they want, 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.980 none of this aligns with what's actually benefiting americans or basically it 00:20:10.980 --> 00:20:12.080 aligns with the oligarch. 00:20:12.760 --> 00:20:15.680 Great reset globalist perspective you know 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.480 and i think that's what comes back to it's like how would that be their calculus 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:23.380 if the argument is america first or any of that right no no even even if you 00:20:23.380 --> 00:20:27.260 do believe that 2d narrative and you believe that it's this is trump and he's 00:20:27.260 --> 00:20:31.220 acting in the interests of america etc it still doesn't even make sense from 00:20:31.220 --> 00:20:32.960 that perspective if only because, 00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:36.920 as has been pointed out endlessly in the American conversation about this, 00:20:37.380 --> 00:20:40.860 is, but the midterm, the midterm selections are coming up, guys, 00:20:41.040 --> 00:20:45.400 and it's going to be a wipeout for the GOP, and oh my god, and if that, 00:20:45.520 --> 00:20:47.180 so even if that is your calculus, 00:20:47.660 --> 00:20:52.820 yeah, okay, maybe this is part of some grand strategy to project U.S., 00:20:52.820 --> 00:20:57.880 you know, unipolar hegemon another 50 years down the road, but that system that. 00:20:58.429 --> 00:21:01.909 That maybe they are weaving into place right now is something that will take 00:21:01.909 --> 00:21:07.229 months, if not years, to start to come together and to form new supply routes 00:21:07.229 --> 00:21:08.609 and all of these sorts of things. 00:21:09.029 --> 00:21:15.409 And, you know, in the meantime, selectorial defeat for the Republicans and Trump 00:21:15.409 --> 00:21:17.129 and MAGA are going to be rejected, etc. 00:21:17.369 --> 00:21:21.209 So even from that perspective, it makes no sense. Not that obviously, 00:21:21.269 --> 00:21:25.109 I hope I don't have to say this for your audience, not that I believe in any of that kind of garbage. 00:21:25.329 --> 00:21:28.569 Yeah, right, right. Then they know this. But, you know, but but the same point 00:21:28.569 --> 00:21:32.309 is that, you know, I mean, it just at the end of the day, this seems counterintuitive, 00:21:32.609 --> 00:21:35.629 you know, and so that's why I keep coming back to this idea. 00:21:35.869 --> 00:21:39.629 Like, I just hope it's clear for people because we don't even need to really get into this idea. 00:21:39.769 --> 00:21:43.369 But unless you wanted to touch on it, that I think part of this from the MAGA 00:21:43.369 --> 00:21:48.249 or rather just not MAGA, but just team sport politics Republicans who are grasping 00:21:48.249 --> 00:21:50.329 at this like a life raft in the middle of the ocean because it's like, 00:21:50.449 --> 00:21:53.849 OK, I can claim that Trump wasn't failing or that he was, you know, 00:21:53.989 --> 00:21:56.649 he double crossed us and everything, but he's going to succeed in this way. 00:21:56.649 --> 00:22:00.009 It just feels like, fine, I'll take that as the last-ditch effort to make it 00:22:00.009 --> 00:22:00.869 feel like he didn't fail. 00:22:02.084 --> 00:22:05.164 And that makes sense to me. But from Trump's perspective, I can't help but see 00:22:05.164 --> 00:22:09.844 this as, or again, to your point, the US government or the agenda perspective, 00:22:10.084 --> 00:22:12.704 that this is part of a larger plan. 00:22:12.704 --> 00:22:15.424 And I don't want that to be taken as sort of giving Trump a pass, 00:22:15.524 --> 00:22:17.564 because I agree with you, one that I don't think he's truly, 00:22:17.904 --> 00:22:21.164 you know, either way, he's responsible for his actions, and he's done plenty 00:22:21.164 --> 00:22:24.664 of stuff that I think is, you know, crimes, but counter to American interest. 00:22:24.904 --> 00:22:28.644 So where do we see this sort of like overlapping with that hypothetically, 00:22:28.644 --> 00:22:30.724 if this was the great reset, 00:22:31.064 --> 00:22:34.844 the larger plan in your mind, how do you see this interconnecting with the point 00:22:34.844 --> 00:22:38.784 that, you know, the technocratic part of this, like the actual global shift, 00:22:38.924 --> 00:22:42.224 the globalist part of this, because, well, first, isn't that a globalist idea? 00:22:42.424 --> 00:22:45.004 What we're discussing is what he's controlling. That's globalism, right? 00:22:45.684 --> 00:22:50.064 Well, I think the only question on the table is which form of global order? 00:22:50.744 --> 00:22:53.884 The question of global order is not on the table. It's, you know, 00:22:54.004 --> 00:22:56.604 there is a global order and we are going to steward over it. 00:22:56.684 --> 00:22:59.024 The only question is who is we? People need to do that, though. 00:22:59.244 --> 00:22:59.804 That's important. Right. 00:23:00.904 --> 00:23:03.884 But that's the fundamental level of this analysis. 00:23:04.084 --> 00:23:09.524 So I guess the question is, I mean, are there people at this table who are vying 00:23:09.524 --> 00:23:14.324 for their nation state to become the leader of that table of global world order? 00:23:14.484 --> 00:23:16.784 Yes, certainly there are. Yeah. 00:23:16.875 --> 00:23:21.755 But whichever way the crisis plays out, it plays into the hands of these these 00:23:21.755 --> 00:23:24.215 oligarchs who claim to be running the world. 00:23:24.395 --> 00:23:28.275 It doesn't play into the hands of you or me or anyone at our level. Exactly. 00:23:29.395 --> 00:23:32.215 That's actually a really important point that I don't think people think about 00:23:32.215 --> 00:23:35.895 enough is that let's just even say this is somehow in the interest of like the 00:23:35.895 --> 00:23:37.895 American preeminence or whatever we're talking about. 00:23:38.155 --> 00:23:41.495 Or, you know, it's how in the world does that work for the average American? 00:23:41.655 --> 00:23:44.395 You're talking about the American oligarchy and you know what years. 00:23:45.155 --> 00:23:48.355 This is an important point to underline. And let me underline it by pointing 00:23:48.355 --> 00:23:49.775 people to my most recent editorial. 00:23:49.995 --> 00:23:57.235 It's called WTF happened in 1971. And it points to chart after chart after chart after chart, 00:23:57.435 --> 00:24:02.635 showing all of these economic and societal displacements and dislocations that 00:24:02.635 --> 00:24:04.995 took place centering around 1971. 00:24:04.995 --> 00:24:07.375 And it's it's everything. 00:24:07.575 --> 00:24:13.415 It's not just, for example, productivity versus GDP or the medium salary versus productivity. 00:24:14.015 --> 00:24:17.955 It's also and of course, inflation, et cetera, currency crashes. 00:24:18.195 --> 00:24:21.915 But it's also societal things like the mean age of parents at birth, 00:24:22.115 --> 00:24:26.835 which keeps rising up and up and up, leading to the demographic crunch that we're seeing today. 00:24:27.255 --> 00:24:31.635 So all of these dislocations took place around 1971. Why is that? 00:24:31.795 --> 00:24:35.835 Because that was precisely that moment where Nixon closed the gold window and 00:24:35.835 --> 00:24:38.795 started to see the formation of the new petrodollar system. 00:24:38.935 --> 00:24:44.315 The monetary order predicates what life is like for the average human being 00:24:44.315 --> 00:24:47.395 just trying to scrape by and put food on their family's table. 00:24:47.575 --> 00:24:52.255 That is the reality of this. And you can sign your identity over to, 00:24:52.275 --> 00:24:56.455 you know, whatever, whichever team on the field that you think is going to win the big sport. 00:24:56.555 --> 00:25:00.215 But that doesn't mean anything for you other than you get to feel good. 00:25:00.615 --> 00:25:05.695 Meanwhile, society and the economy is collapsing around around outside. 00:25:06.075 --> 00:25:09.675 And, yay, I won. Yay, America's winning. 00:25:10.435 --> 00:25:14.155 I don't know where about where you are, but I'm assuming gas prices and other 00:25:14.155 --> 00:25:16.055 such things are going up there as well. 00:25:16.355 --> 00:25:20.635 Is that what winning looks like? because, I don't know, that's not how I would. 00:25:21.134 --> 00:25:23.894 How i would define that yeah well exactly i mean 00:25:23.894 --> 00:25:26.654 and this is what's so confounding and this is why i really want to stress 00:25:26.654 --> 00:25:29.694 to people who you know it's easy to fall into this trap of 00:25:29.694 --> 00:25:32.314 what partisans like what the mainstream wants you 00:25:32.314 --> 00:25:35.034 to view as a republican and democrat right it's just it's so 00:25:35.034 --> 00:25:37.854 easy to just go for the the stereotypes i don't believe 00:25:37.854 --> 00:25:40.534 that's even the majority of people anymore i think it's got it's gotten further and 00:25:40.534 --> 00:25:43.274 further disconnected but you know it's that that i think 00:25:43.274 --> 00:25:46.174 that it's easy to represent them as you know the people that would support 00:25:46.174 --> 00:25:49.194 this blindly because trump's winning but i believe most 00:25:49.194 --> 00:25:52.054 people the honest people that wanted to make america great again 00:25:52.054 --> 00:25:55.054 whether we disagree on what that might look like that genuinely 00:25:55.054 --> 00:25:58.194 wanted what they were promised right and they are being double-crossed 00:25:58.194 --> 00:26:01.074 right now you can't deny that like that's why i think and i 00:26:01.074 --> 00:26:04.014 know you're honest enough to see this that they're we've seen this change like 00:26:04.014 --> 00:26:06.954 we were calling this but i think all of us back in like ima in like january about 00:26:06.954 --> 00:26:09.834 this you know people in the conservative party who were just not seeing 00:26:09.834 --> 00:26:12.554 it calling these things out now it's being like this weird waterfall of 00:26:12.554 --> 00:26:15.254 change of conversation i mean even alex jones going this 00:26:15.254 --> 00:26:18.054 is the great reset it's like where were you three months ago we were screaming 00:26:18.054 --> 00:26:20.834 about this but but my point though is i think honest people in 00:26:20.834 --> 00:26:23.554 this movement have been trying to get attention for just saying this is 00:26:23.554 --> 00:26:26.634 not what we voted for it's not what we want and so majority of 00:26:26.634 --> 00:26:29.494 americans i think aren't falling for this don't want this 00:26:29.494 --> 00:26:33.054 but it's easy to take that bait at the end of the game to be like well this 00:26:33.054 --> 00:26:36.674 is going to win it's going to be benefiting you people are trapped in that partisan 00:26:36.674 --> 00:26:40.094 mindset still even if they're seeing through the larger political game i think 00:26:40.094 --> 00:26:43.894 and so this is like let me put it this way i think this is like a last ditch 00:26:43.894 --> 00:26:47.774 effort of the dying two-party illusion to try to get people to reinvest in it. 00:26:47.969 --> 00:26:53.309 And I think that this leads to this big change that you've talked about a lot, 00:26:53.409 --> 00:26:54.389 that we've all talked about a lot. 00:26:54.469 --> 00:26:56.769 And whether we think it's the Great Reset or this is part of it, 00:26:56.889 --> 00:27:00.749 I think it's self-evident at this point that there is a reorganization of society underway. 00:27:01.189 --> 00:27:04.229 And you've got the technocrats lined up around Donald Trump. 00:27:04.349 --> 00:27:06.069 You've got other global elements happening. 00:27:06.409 --> 00:27:10.029 So where do we see this going with this part of it, with the oil, 00:27:10.169 --> 00:27:13.469 with Iran, with the global dynamic? I mean, and I want I'd like to get in with 00:27:13.469 --> 00:27:16.229 you to the very clear point of the technocratic side of it. 00:27:16.549 --> 00:27:18.809 You know, the network state agenda. You and I haven't really talked about that 00:27:18.809 --> 00:27:23.049 a lot. And, you know, Curtis Yarvin philosophy and Marc Andreessen and, you know, all of this. 00:27:23.129 --> 00:27:26.069 Like, do you see first, do you see these things in any way connecting? 00:27:26.409 --> 00:27:28.389 And then let's talk about the technocratic side of it. 00:27:28.989 --> 00:27:34.549 Yes. Well, on your point about this change in public perception and is it enough? 00:27:34.549 --> 00:27:38.989 The real question is, if people continue to think that this is about some sort 00:27:38.989 --> 00:27:45.349 of political argument between two parties that and however, however you position 00:27:45.349 --> 00:27:48.149 yourself in that matrix, you are going to lose. 00:27:48.369 --> 00:27:50.909 Whoever you vote for, government wins is the way to put it. Right. 00:27:50.909 --> 00:27:56.309 So as long as people continue to frame this in terms of midterm selections or 00:27:56.309 --> 00:28:00.349 the next presidential race in 2028 or whatever, you know, 00:28:00.669 --> 00:28:05.829 stupid political paradigm people try to put this in, to that extent, people are losing. 00:28:05.829 --> 00:28:10.629 Until we realize it is us, as in the vast majority of humanity and presumably 00:28:10.629 --> 00:28:15.389 everyone I interact with on a daily basis, I imagine everyone you interact with on a daily basis, 00:28:15.529 --> 00:28:21.569 has no connection to these great power politics machinations taking place at 00:28:21.569 --> 00:28:22.569 the geopolitical level. 00:28:22.809 --> 00:28:26.409 No, that isn't my reality. My reality is in my community with people that I 00:28:26.409 --> 00:28:32.349 know in the real world and how we are living and the standard of living is increasing or decreasing. 00:28:32.549 --> 00:28:37.509 Oh, it looks like it's decreasing. That is the level at which we should be assessing these events. 00:28:37.849 --> 00:28:45.789 So to the extent that we have been mind-gamed into playing this political game and supporting teams. 00:28:46.493 --> 00:28:49.593 If that happens, and if people start talking again about the, 00:28:49.593 --> 00:28:53.673 you know, the midterm selections or something, as if that's the goal of what's 00:28:53.673 --> 00:28:55.273 going on here, then we lose. 00:28:55.433 --> 00:29:00.333 The only way to win this is the mass realization that it is us versus them. 00:29:00.913 --> 00:29:06.693 Hey, not to borrow the Occupy slogan, but 99%, well, let's make it 99.999%, 00:29:06.693 --> 00:29:08.053 and you might be closer to the truth. 00:29:08.193 --> 00:29:11.513 But yes, it is certainly not in our interest what is going on. 00:29:11.513 --> 00:29:16.393 So the question is, does this tie into the larger question of the Great Reset 00:29:16.393 --> 00:29:17.933 or whatever you want to call it? 00:29:18.133 --> 00:29:22.553 And as I was talking about at the time when the Great Reset was being pimped 00:29:22.553 --> 00:29:25.633 by the WEF under Schwab, remember him? 00:29:27.013 --> 00:29:31.933 As I was saying at that time, Great Reset was really just a different label 00:29:31.933 --> 00:29:35.933 on a very old idea, the New World Order idea, whatever label it goes under, 00:29:36.113 --> 00:29:38.553 which is essentially an oligarchic system. Right. 00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:43.160 If there's any difference in the 21st century, it has that technocratic twist 00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:46.260 because we are starting to see the culmination of all these technologies that 00:29:46.260 --> 00:29:50.340 make the scientific dictatorship that Bertrand Russell and others were warning 00:29:50.340 --> 00:29:55.740 about or salivating about back in the mid 20th century. It is coming into view. 00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:00.000 So that is, I guess, the twist on any of this. 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.400 And so the question really is, 00:30:03.740 --> 00:30:09.380 are there vested interests in the technopoly, 00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:16.740 the big tech oligarchs, having their say in the direction of this new monetary 00:30:16.740 --> 00:30:19.420 order slash world geopolitical realignment? 00:30:19.420 --> 00:30:21.820 And I would say that all signs point to yes. 00:30:21.980 --> 00:30:25.060 I mean, I know you've been talking about it for years. Whitney Webb has been 00:30:25.060 --> 00:30:26.060 documenting it for years. 00:30:26.220 --> 00:30:29.720 Derek Brose, myself, others have been talking about, for example, 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:34.540 Peter Thiel's influence on Trump 2.0 through obviously through Vance, 00:30:34.780 --> 00:30:40.220 most obviously, but through many other tentacles of the Palantir deep state as well. 00:30:40.760 --> 00:30:46.600 That's one way in which this agenda is being forwarded for a something larger 00:30:46.600 --> 00:30:49.640 than the idea of U.S. national sovereignty, state interests. 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:55.440 And of course, Peter Thiel hides under the umbrella of, oh, I'm a I'm a libertarian, etc. 00:30:55.560 --> 00:30:58.220 But we know what that means in the Peter Thiel formulation. 00:30:58.800 --> 00:31:05.720 He means it in the sense that he wants essentially his big tech oligarchical 00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.500 system in which he's going to be the techno king, 00:31:08.540 --> 00:31:14.760 as his favored court jester slash philosopher, Curtis Yarvin might call it. 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:17.420 And so for people who don't know about the technocratic dark state, 00:31:17.600 --> 00:31:20.960 obviously, they should be reading Ian Davis's book on that subject published 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:22.320 by Papercuts Publishing. 00:31:22.773 --> 00:31:27.873 In which he goes into the accelerationists of the dark enlightenment and the 00:31:27.873 --> 00:31:33.413 philosophy that is driving these people towards, well, I guess various goals. 00:31:33.653 --> 00:31:36.993 I think different players in this agenda have different goals. 00:31:37.233 --> 00:31:42.553 One of which, as I think you pointed out recently, and I think probably does deserve more detail, 00:31:42.813 --> 00:31:48.333 is this bizarre obsession with life extension technologies of various sorts 00:31:48.333 --> 00:31:52.413 that a lot of these players are very interested in, Peter Thiel included. 00:31:52.773 --> 00:31:57.353 With large investments in this and of course the whole Peter Thiel is a vampire 00:31:57.353 --> 00:32:02.553 meme that was floated in recent years because he may or may not actually be 00:32:02.553 --> 00:32:04.413 ingesting the blood of younglings. 00:32:06.073 --> 00:32:12.653 At any rate whatever they are working on is some form of transhuman utopianism 00:32:12.653 --> 00:32:18.093 on one side and technocratic dystopia on the other side whereby this same technology 00:32:18.093 --> 00:32:22.013 that's going to make these people into godlike figures and, you know, 00:32:22.193 --> 00:32:25.493 extend their life and all of that is the same technology that they're going 00:32:25.493 --> 00:32:30.913 to use to completely control and track trace database all of humanity. 00:32:31.413 --> 00:32:35.033 So I think that that that is clearly part of this agenda. 00:32:35.193 --> 00:32:38.653 That is clearly where it's heading. And when you get factor in energy crises 00:32:38.653 --> 00:32:42.633 and things like this, that is obviously part of that, that conversation, 00:32:42.813 --> 00:32:47.413 especially as we're starting to divert more and more energy and resources into 00:32:47.413 --> 00:32:52.033 the AI behemoth at the expense, once again, of the average person, 00:32:52.273 --> 00:32:55.113 the average working person who is going to find themselves out of a job sooner 00:32:55.113 --> 00:32:57.033 or later because you've been replaced by a robot. 00:32:58.473 --> 00:33:02.353 And what's the solution to that? Well, don't worry. The techno oligarchs also 00:33:02.353 --> 00:33:03.353 have the solution to that. 00:33:03.553 --> 00:33:07.573 I mean, Elon Musk, among others, have been floating the UBI solution for many years. 00:33:07.733 --> 00:33:12.593 So welcome to the new economic order in which you will own nothing and you won't 00:33:12.593 --> 00:33:16.453 actually be happy, but the brain chip that has been implanted in you will be 00:33:16.453 --> 00:33:17.533 telling you that you're happy. 00:33:18.308 --> 00:33:22.848 On that very note, too, and this idea of this sort of – and what's interesting 00:33:22.848 --> 00:33:25.328 about this point, and it very well could be that these aren't even connected, 00:33:25.408 --> 00:33:28.848 but the idea of what the network state agenda, the freedom cities agenda, 00:33:28.988 --> 00:33:30.828 the smart cities, all this stuff at the same point. 00:33:31.088 --> 00:33:34.708 Pronomals capital, Peter Thiel, the funding mechanism, it's an apraxious, 00:33:34.888 --> 00:33:35.708 what Ian was talking about. 00:33:35.828 --> 00:33:40.448 It's all part of the same agenda, is that this is being framed as a reimagining 00:33:40.448 --> 00:33:43.548 of society, right? So this is literally what this idea is. 00:33:43.688 --> 00:33:47.448 So what I'm interested in is whether or not this is part of that same plan. 00:33:47.448 --> 00:33:50.208 And you could argue that these are just completely disconnected. 00:33:50.208 --> 00:33:53.448 So what I would be interested in your thoughts is that the oil side of it, 00:33:53.528 --> 00:33:59.508 what Trump is doing, do you see a way that this could be leading to the transition? 00:33:59.748 --> 00:34:03.368 I actually don't even see a clear path for that. The way I see in this is that 00:34:03.368 --> 00:34:07.948 this is just trying to reorganize power, which always could lead to any one of these agendas. 00:34:07.948 --> 00:34:11.008 Right so i'm wondering if you see an organ like a 00:34:11.008 --> 00:34:14.768 tie to this between the idea of the you 00:34:14.768 --> 00:34:18.188 know reimagining the way our societal structure our governance structure 00:34:18.188 --> 00:34:21.188 works because that's a different conversation like the way our governance works 00:34:21.188 --> 00:34:24.668 because the whole point of this that's back to this is call it tech zionism 00:34:24.668 --> 00:34:29.228 weirdly enough that's one of the the um trini vassan former cto of coinbase 00:34:29.228 --> 00:34:32.608 wrote a book about it that's what he called it is that this is about the you 00:34:32.608 --> 00:34:35.808 know what you just kind of framed it as like this new like basically that you 00:34:35.808 --> 00:34:38.668 own nothing and you own they they own the keys to all of your data. 00:34:38.888 --> 00:34:42.168 You know, what's the word I'm looking for? Like put the Coinbase idea where 00:34:42.168 --> 00:34:45.248 you own the keys to these things, but they could ultimately box you out of those things. 00:34:45.308 --> 00:34:48.708 So it's like this re-imagining, if you will, of the idea that you own nothing 00:34:48.708 --> 00:34:50.128 and you'd be happy. But this... 00:34:52.847 --> 00:34:56.227 Reimagining of the governance structure and how we engage with it and how this 00:34:56.227 --> 00:34:57.867 could lead to that. I mean, there's a lot of points. 00:34:57.987 --> 00:35:00.267 I'm sorry, I'm rambling on, but go ahead. Do you think there's a connection 00:35:00.267 --> 00:35:01.087 between these two things? 00:35:01.507 --> 00:35:04.707 Yeah, you raise an interesting point. I mean, I guess there's a distinction 00:35:04.707 --> 00:35:08.847 between the global governmental system that they set up and what it does. 00:35:09.067 --> 00:35:11.067 I mean, those are two sort of separate issues. 00:35:11.387 --> 00:35:14.687 One, that there is some sort of global order under which this is operating. 00:35:14.827 --> 00:35:18.147 But the second part of it is how it actually functions and what it looks like. 00:35:18.247 --> 00:35:19.907 And that can function in different ways. 00:35:20.287 --> 00:35:24.867 For example, we have just lived through the 20th century in which we saw certainly 00:35:24.867 --> 00:35:28.687 in the latter half of the 20th century it was defined by the the bipolar arrangement 00:35:28.687 --> 00:35:34.587 of us ussr cold war which of course as i hope your informed listeners know was 00:35:34.587 --> 00:35:37.167 phony phony and engineered in a number of ways but. 00:35:38.147 --> 00:35:41.987 Anyway it was the bipolar arrangement that became the unipolar arrangement of 00:35:41.987 --> 00:35:45.707 the u.s hegemon that's those are two different ways of governing the global 00:35:45.707 --> 00:35:50.927 order um an alternative that may be more in line with what I think a lot of 00:35:50.927 --> 00:35:55.607 the oligarchs have in mind is something like the 1984 universe of East Asia, Eurasia, Oceania. 00:35:55.907 --> 00:36:00.027 They're always at war with each other or in alliance in some permutation or 00:36:00.027 --> 00:36:01.587 combination, but I don't know. 00:36:02.007 --> 00:36:07.787 And really, as Winston observes in 1984, well, the bombs are raining down. 00:36:07.947 --> 00:36:10.887 We don't know where they're coming from. It could be our own government, whatever. Who knows? 00:36:11.307 --> 00:36:15.007 And that's another form of potential governmental structure, 00:36:15.007 --> 00:36:18.187 which I think is in line with that multipolar idea of 00:36:18.187 --> 00:36:21.947 the oh don't worry it's the competing axis of resistance multipolar 00:36:21.947 --> 00:36:26.607 idea versus the unipolar hegemon idea so we can have these different blocks 00:36:26.607 --> 00:36:31.267 and regional governments and we'll have the EU and the EU the Eurasian Economic 00:36:31.267 --> 00:36:36.647 Union we'll have the African Union etc which will of course take the form of 00:36:36.647 --> 00:36:38.487 technates because that is what 00:36:38.487 --> 00:36:41.847 so much of this comes back to and that is I think one of the one of the 00:36:42.074 --> 00:36:46.434 kernel ideas from the early 20th century that has persisted to this time. 00:36:46.574 --> 00:36:49.914 And for people who don't know about that, again, they should look into it, 00:36:50.014 --> 00:36:50.894 obviously, the technate. 00:36:50.994 --> 00:36:54.854 I'm sure listeners who are regulars to The Last American Vagabond will not be 00:36:54.854 --> 00:36:55.994 hearing about this for the first time. 00:36:56.094 --> 00:37:00.534 But the idea of the state not being a, certainly not a nation state, 00:37:00.774 --> 00:37:04.514 but a governance structure based on experts. 00:37:04.954 --> 00:37:08.434 Appointed, anointed experts, self-proclaimed experts anyway, 00:37:08.654 --> 00:37:13.914 who get to steward over the economy and society itself, because they're experts. 00:37:14.214 --> 00:37:20.154 And that is, I think, more what is in mind for these, the freedom city. 00:37:20.594 --> 00:37:25.534 Pronomos capital, that vision of society being governed not by a government 00:37:25.534 --> 00:37:30.154 that looks and functions like a government and has elected democratic representatives 00:37:30.154 --> 00:37:33.794 or whatever, you know, fig leaf of justification they give for our system today. 00:37:33.954 --> 00:37:38.834 No, it will be run by experts who will tell you how to live your life because they know best. 00:37:39.234 --> 00:37:43.834 And in their positions, they will be able to determine, well, 00:37:43.914 --> 00:37:44.974 everything in society. If you 00:37:44.974 --> 00:37:49.094 go back to the technocratic study course and read about that vision of a 00:37:49.483 --> 00:37:52.543 building block for what could become an interlocking world order. 00:37:52.663 --> 00:37:56.783 It was based on the idea that everything comes down to energy, 00:37:56.963 --> 00:37:59.003 energy inputs and outputs in the economy. 00:37:59.183 --> 00:38:02.963 And the reason that we have these incredible runs, run ups and crashes like 00:38:02.963 --> 00:38:07.603 the Great Depression is because the energy inputs and outputs aren't being balanced. 00:38:07.603 --> 00:38:12.003 And we have all of this crazy, you know, production going on and overproduction 00:38:12.003 --> 00:38:14.063 of things that people don't need, etc. 00:38:14.423 --> 00:38:19.003 And that creates these booms and busts, and this is a terrible way to run it. 00:38:19.123 --> 00:38:24.823 What we should have is these experts who determine exactly what society needs, 00:38:24.823 --> 00:38:29.523 and then we can tailor our production so it precisely provides those things that we need. 00:38:29.663 --> 00:38:34.403 Now, the interesting part about that idea, as people in my audience, 00:38:34.403 --> 00:38:36.323 I hope know, is that it has been tried. 00:38:36.483 --> 00:38:41.143 If you don't know about that, please look at a little, a sort of fun parody 00:38:41.143 --> 00:38:43.763 that I did last year, question mark. 00:38:44.163 --> 00:38:49.723 About the Ministry of Toothbrushes, where I pretended to be the head of the 00:38:49.723 --> 00:38:51.263 Ministry of Toothbrushes, talking 00:38:51.263 --> 00:38:55.243 about, you know, we have designed the toothbrush that you will need. 00:38:55.243 --> 00:38:57.863 It comes in the exact color that you will want. 00:38:57.883 --> 00:39:00.723 It is white, and you will have this, and it will look like this. 00:39:00.903 --> 00:39:07.203 And it was, of course, a parody, but a parody of a real process that has been tried before. 00:39:07.203 --> 00:39:12.623 It was tried in the Soviet Union, in Magnitogorsk, which was this essentially 00:39:12.623 --> 00:39:16.763 technocratic city that was created and which had, 00:39:16.943 --> 00:39:20.443 of course, the social engineers stewarding over the production of everything 00:39:20.443 --> 00:39:24.263 in that economy, down to how many toothbrushes need to be produced in a year 00:39:24.263 --> 00:39:25.443 and what color they should be 00:39:25.443 --> 00:39:28.823 and what size and shape and how hard the bristles should be and how many 00:39:29.111 --> 00:39:34.131 you know, pairs of pantyhose should be produced and what style they should be in, et cetera. 00:39:34.371 --> 00:39:37.571 There were people literally with reams and reams, and you can watch, 00:39:37.751 --> 00:39:40.851 Adam Curtis did a documentary about this where he's got the file footage of 00:39:40.851 --> 00:39:46.151 people showing the reams and reams and reams of that old printer sheet data 00:39:46.151 --> 00:39:49.331 of, well, here's what was produced last year. 00:39:49.471 --> 00:39:52.771 And so here's what we're projecting for this year and et cetera, 00:39:52.871 --> 00:39:53.891 et cetera. This has been tried. 00:39:54.031 --> 00:39:58.931 And this is the sort of the ultimate dream specifically of a certain type of 00:39:58.931 --> 00:40:02.731 mindset, not just psychopaths with a desire for power, 00:40:02.951 --> 00:40:10.251 but psychopathic nerds with a desire for power, which is why I think Ian Davis's neologism. 00:40:10.671 --> 00:40:13.491 Neo-nerds, is so appropriate. 00:40:13.491 --> 00:40:19.551 Because it is that certain type of controlling idea that we will be able to 00:40:19.551 --> 00:40:21.951 perfectly plan society from the bottom up. 00:40:22.111 --> 00:40:25.231 It is important whenever I talk about this to 00:40:25.231 --> 00:40:28.851 point out that there is a contrasting vision for 00:40:28.851 --> 00:40:31.531 order in society that order is not something that is 00:40:31.531 --> 00:40:34.671 gaveled down from the from some top level and centrally 00:40:34.671 --> 00:40:40.011 planned it is something that emerges as an emergent property of people coming 00:40:40.011 --> 00:40:44.851 together in voluntary cooperation for the most stable structures they form an 00:40:44.851 --> 00:40:50.951 order that does not have to be enforced by some upper agency or government or 00:40:50.951 --> 00:40:53.511 bureaucracy in the exact same way. 00:40:53.511 --> 00:40:57.931 There does not need to be police on every corner enforcing that you speak English 00:40:57.931 --> 00:41:00.111 and you must speak English, Ryan. 00:41:00.551 --> 00:41:03.751 And we're going to beat you if you don't know that that doesn't exist. 00:41:03.911 --> 00:41:07.331 You learn to speak English because you are in human society and you want to 00:41:07.331 --> 00:41:10.991 communicate with the people around you. They speak English. So you learn to speak English. 00:41:11.251 --> 00:41:15.711 And and the great thing about it is because there is no central authority that 00:41:15.711 --> 00:41:17.851 beats people over the head and tells them to speak this way. 00:41:18.731 --> 00:41:23.791 It's an emergent thing that can change over time and language changes and it 00:41:23.791 --> 00:41:26.711 drifts this way and it goes that way and new words arise and Hey, 00:41:26.791 --> 00:41:27.991 it's a beautiful, wonderful conversation. 00:41:28.292 --> 00:41:33.572 This anarchic process that is more stable and more orderly than any sort of 00:41:33.572 --> 00:41:37.292 process could be from some nerd sitting there in some central location trying 00:41:37.292 --> 00:41:39.112 to dictate to everyone in society. 00:41:39.592 --> 00:41:42.672 Of course, in little ways that benefit themselves, too, because why not? 00:41:42.892 --> 00:41:45.852 You know, that's the idea of these people. But I was going to jokingly say his 00:41:45.852 --> 00:41:48.272 word for that is called anarchy, which clearly you were leading to. 00:41:48.372 --> 00:41:49.532 Right. That's the whole idea. Yeah. 00:41:49.912 --> 00:41:53.292 But so to the point of the governance structure, which is, you know, 00:41:53.392 --> 00:41:56.852 I, of course, forgot to mention the main point for how those connect is that 00:41:56.852 --> 00:42:00.132 the way they see this, as you know, is it kind of a CEO run country. 00:42:00.352 --> 00:42:03.792 And it's perfect to what you were just saying, right? The idea that it's not, it's managed. 00:42:03.952 --> 00:42:07.292 And this is the transition they're highlighting that it's managed by somebody 00:42:07.292 --> 00:42:08.432 who just knows what they're doing. 00:42:08.592 --> 00:42:12.132 But one of the interesting, you know, carve outs or leave outs, 00:42:12.272 --> 00:42:14.832 I guess, is that there's no, you know, constitutional rights. 00:42:15.012 --> 00:42:17.192 There's no, you know, they just get to decide what's right for you. 00:42:17.292 --> 00:42:18.912 And that's kind of what you're highlighting. And this This is, 00:42:18.972 --> 00:42:21.752 you know, the very alarming transition of all this. 00:42:21.872 --> 00:42:26.572 And I think what's clear is that the design is infiltrating basically every 00:42:26.572 --> 00:42:29.332 government that I can see. You know, it's all around the world. 00:42:29.512 --> 00:42:32.612 And this is what's so frustrating is that we're, you know, like even just the 00:42:32.612 --> 00:42:36.132 focal point of foreign policy in Iran, fighting to expose that because we should. 00:42:36.272 --> 00:42:39.412 There are crimes being committed. But it feels often throughout these stories 00:42:39.412 --> 00:42:40.612 that you're just sort of, you 00:42:40.612 --> 00:42:45.292 know, falling into the engineered transition for the global discussion. 00:42:45.292 --> 00:42:48.472 And so it's like how do we get the average person to stand back 00:42:48.472 --> 00:42:51.192 and look at this from that global perspective because doesn't 00:42:51.192 --> 00:42:54.892 that in its own way make you feel like you're speaking from a globalist perspective 00:42:54.892 --> 00:42:57.432 you know it's like i'm not trying to tell you to look at it that way but to 00:42:57.432 --> 00:43:03.172 stand back and consider that they are looking at it that way you know unfortunately 00:43:03.172 --> 00:43:07.312 the nuance and subtlety of these conversations can evade people at times and 00:43:07.312 --> 00:43:11.452 unfortunately the commentary generally descends to the lowest common denominator 00:43:11.452 --> 00:43:13.952 on things like this and And so it is difficult to. 00:43:14.452 --> 00:43:17.632 Yeah, sometimes we do have to state very clearly what is going on here. 00:43:17.632 --> 00:43:20.652 And yes, we're not globalists, but we're telling you that they are globalists 00:43:20.652 --> 00:43:23.552 and they are looking at it from this perspective. Um... 00:43:23.683 --> 00:43:29.743 It raises a number of things in my mind, this entire topic, and there's so much more to go into. 00:43:29.963 --> 00:43:36.343 But I think, yes, on the question of CEOs rather than elected representatives, 00:43:36.603 --> 00:43:40.923 for whatever you will say about the elective representative system, 00:43:41.063 --> 00:43:45.783 at any rate, it's based on the pretense that it isn't just necessarily the richest 00:43:45.783 --> 00:43:47.563 person who gets to rule over you. 00:43:47.803 --> 00:43:52.643 At least that's, you know, it often turns out to be people who are incredibly 00:43:52.643 --> 00:43:56.103 wealthy. But anyway, but that's not a feature of the system. That's a bug. 00:43:56.523 --> 00:43:59.883 But in the in the techno state vision, yes, no, it is. 00:44:00.063 --> 00:44:03.483 It is quite obviously it's the people with the most financial resources who 00:44:03.483 --> 00:44:07.243 can buy up the most amount of land to create their techno state and then run 00:44:07.243 --> 00:44:09.183 it however they like, because they're the techno king. 00:44:09.183 --> 00:44:14.663 And, of course, the implied part of all of this is who are the people who are 00:44:14.663 --> 00:44:18.583 most financially successful in this system that we are living in that has been 00:44:18.583 --> 00:44:23.003 created by psychopaths for the benefit of psychopaths? It's psychopaths. 00:44:23.283 --> 00:44:29.163 Yeah, this is this is the reason why when people ask me if if there was the 00:44:29.163 --> 00:44:31.643 magic switch that I could flip to 00:44:31.643 --> 00:44:35.803 go from our current reality to anarchy overnight, would I flip the switch? 00:44:35.803 --> 00:44:40.023 And I can't say I would at this moment, because I don't think with because at 00:44:40.023 --> 00:44:45.703 the very least, if we were to simply say, OK, you know, make the cut right here, right now. 00:44:45.703 --> 00:44:50.263 And now everyone gets to just, you know, play in the completely free world with 00:44:50.263 --> 00:44:52.063 the resources that they have right now. 00:44:52.263 --> 00:44:57.623 Well, of course, then Gates and Musk and Teal and psychopaths like this end 00:44:57.623 --> 00:45:01.083 up having all of the power because they have accumulated over their, 00:45:01.143 --> 00:45:06.643 well, combined generationally centuries of manipulation of the system. 00:45:06.863 --> 00:45:10.323 Right. And I don't think that would be a fair way to do it. But then again, 00:45:10.563 --> 00:45:14.843 then you get into redistributionism and OK, so well, we so we have to take all 00:45:14.843 --> 00:45:19.043 the money away from the billionaires and distribute it to everyone. But how do we do that? 00:45:19.123 --> 00:45:21.583 Unless you're talking about communism or something. Yes. Right. 00:45:22.994 --> 00:45:26.834 Again, nuance and detail is important, but unfortunately, these kinds of conversations 00:45:26.834 --> 00:45:29.634 get sunk down to the lowest common denominator so often. 00:45:29.974 --> 00:45:32.174 Well, and this is why it just really comes down to personal choice, 00:45:32.174 --> 00:45:35.614 and that has to be respected in every possible way. You live your life the way 00:45:35.614 --> 00:45:36.374 you want to live your life. 00:45:36.494 --> 00:45:39.934 The problem is that these technocrats and the rest, any governance structure 00:45:39.934 --> 00:45:43.594 outside of anarchism that I can see, wants to in some way dictate the way you live your life. 00:45:43.614 --> 00:45:47.474 And it just seems like the only possible path. But speaking of that, 00:45:47.594 --> 00:45:50.974 to just spend maybe the last 15 minutes on here is that there's obviously an 00:45:50.974 --> 00:45:55.514 element of this that adds sort of a wild card, if you will, with Israel. 00:45:55.734 --> 00:46:00.934 And I think it's interesting that clearly Israel has very public prophetic sort 00:46:00.934 --> 00:46:05.434 of religious designs for some kind of a grander, greater Israel. And so- 00:46:06.093 --> 00:46:09.673 I don't know whether this, you know, I don't think anybody can really define, 00:46:09.833 --> 00:46:11.373 you know, whether it is the same. 00:46:11.573 --> 00:46:15.613 I think there's clear overlaps both to globalism, just the technocratic agenda 00:46:15.613 --> 00:46:18.453 and like Israel's perspective on what they want to accomplish. 00:46:18.613 --> 00:46:22.553 I'm not sure whether that's the same plan or that Israel sort of woven its way 00:46:22.553 --> 00:46:26.013 through these things over the years. But what I'm interested in is where we're at now. 00:46:26.333 --> 00:46:28.973 And like, for example, as I was just showing yesterday, you know, 00:46:29.093 --> 00:46:31.353 this is not new, by the way, but it's just right there. 00:46:31.733 --> 00:46:34.733 Smotrich is out there giving a very public, you know, conference about 00:46:34.733 --> 00:46:37.913 how this is the greater reset or excuse me the greater 00:46:37.913 --> 00:46:40.833 israel project and it's lebanon and syria and 00:46:40.833 --> 00:46:43.433 you know it's all the things that you people like us paying attention have seen and we 00:46:43.433 --> 00:46:46.093 know but average people are it's becoming more and 00:46:46.093 --> 00:46:49.633 more obvious to them and so i'm interested in where this goes if 00:46:49.633 --> 00:46:52.933 this is some kind of a transition and like a global transition 00:46:52.933 --> 00:46:55.553 of power you know how do you see israel playing a 00:46:55.553 --> 00:46:58.613 factor in all that do you see them as a player alongside that 00:46:58.613 --> 00:47:01.333 technocratic agenda i just don't see a world in which you see this like 00:47:01.333 --> 00:47:04.873 ceo run country design living next to a zionist prophetic 00:47:04.873 --> 00:47:07.653 you know i just don't know how you see i'm curious what you think about 00:47:07.653 --> 00:47:10.373 that and how those things align if they're the same agenda what are your thoughts 00:47:10.373 --> 00:47:13.633 on all that well you know okay 00:47:13.633 --> 00:47:16.373 so this is where we get into the type of 00:47:16.373 --> 00:47:20.133 speculation that at any rate i'm not going to profess to have the inside information 00:47:20.133 --> 00:47:24.513 to but we could at least imagine how this can play out in various scenarios 00:47:24.513 --> 00:47:29.573 one of which could be um man i hate to even bring up the specter of this because 00:47:29.573 --> 00:47:33.473 it is such a debunkable piece of nonsense that gets persistently thrown around 00:47:33.473 --> 00:47:34.733 in alternative media spaces, 00:47:35.053 --> 00:47:38.353 despite however many times I say it's debunked. 00:47:39.613 --> 00:47:42.613 The Albert Pike letter predicting World War III, right? 00:47:43.353 --> 00:47:47.513 Which, no, there was no such letter. And I have the receipts on that, 00:47:47.633 --> 00:47:49.093 and I've written about it. 00:47:49.133 --> 00:47:52.013 If people are interested, just look up Albert Pike in my search bar. 00:47:52.253 --> 00:47:55.573 That's fake news. That letter never existed. It was never written. 00:47:55.733 --> 00:47:59.393 But anyway, for people who don't know, supposedly, Albert Pike, 00:47:59.513 --> 00:48:04.573 this great Freemason, wrote this prophetic letter back in the late 19th century 00:48:04.573 --> 00:48:07.673 about how World War III was going to precipitate. 00:48:08.497 --> 00:48:12.337 World War Three? Yes, he knew about the first World War conflict and he knew 00:48:12.337 --> 00:48:15.797 about the second World War conflict that would be fought against fascists or 00:48:15.797 --> 00:48:20.517 Nazis or whatever, whatever phrase he used in that letter, which didn't exist at the time, etc. 00:48:20.517 --> 00:48:28.457 Etc um anyway but world war three would come about um when you get the you know the the the. 00:48:29.677 --> 00:48:32.797 Was he specifically saying it was going to be the the sort 00:48:32.797 --> 00:48:39.137 of the judeo-christian jude uh sort of apocalyptic vision versus the islamic 00:48:39.137 --> 00:48:43.877 version and in that conflict you know people were going to see the madness of 00:48:43.877 --> 00:48:49.277 all this religion and come to the the bright light of lucifer um whatever the 00:48:49.277 --> 00:48:52.417 exact way he supposedly framed it in that letter that doesn't exist. 00:48:52.617 --> 00:48:58.997 Anyway, so could it be that we are seeing the engineering of, yes, 00:48:59.397 --> 00:49:04.377 I mean, at this point, we have seen such a colossal sea change in general public 00:49:04.377 --> 00:49:08.357 opinion over the past, even the past two years on the Israeli subject, 00:49:08.537 --> 00:49:11.837 even in mainstream, you know, discourse. 00:49:12.854 --> 00:49:16.334 We've the United States has gone from a country that was whatever it was, 00:49:16.434 --> 00:49:20.814 98 percent in favor of Israel versus Palestine to one that is now. 00:49:20.974 --> 00:49:24.414 Well, actually, it's about half of the U.S. is more inclined towards Palestinians. 00:49:24.634 --> 00:49:28.974 That is an incredible sea change in opinion that's happened in, what, two years. 00:49:29.174 --> 00:49:32.934 It's it's almost unthinkable. And we are starting to see more and more people 00:49:32.934 --> 00:49:34.914 around the world recognizing that, yes, 00:49:35.094 --> 00:49:40.354 clearly Israel is manipulating and staging and puppeteering a lot of the action 00:49:40.354 --> 00:49:44.654 that is certainly happening in the greater Israel project. region and in the Middle East generally. 00:49:44.914 --> 00:49:51.614 And so now it's, I don't see anyone making the serious argument that Israel 00:49:51.614 --> 00:49:54.234 was not in the driver's seat of this current Iran conflict. 00:49:54.394 --> 00:49:57.634 I mean, I think it's just, I don't know. I don't, I haven't seen anyone make 00:49:57.634 --> 00:49:59.714 a serious argument that Israel had nothing to do with it. 00:49:59.814 --> 00:50:03.274 I've seen people make stupid arguments, but not a serious argument. 00:50:03.434 --> 00:50:08.014 So, so I think that the recognition is clearly that Israel is very much behind 00:50:08.014 --> 00:50:11.394 this and the greater Israel, the Zionist project, etc. 00:50:12.574 --> 00:50:17.954 Could it be that events are being engineered into some sort of apocalyptic confrontation, 00:50:18.214 --> 00:50:23.074 Israel versus Iran that draws in the US and Russia and China into some World 00:50:23.074 --> 00:50:27.154 War III scenario that will obliterate and people will see through the nonsense 00:50:27.154 --> 00:50:32.514 of these nation states and their various ethno supremacy arguments, etc. 00:50:32.914 --> 00:50:39.214 And see the wisdom and the light of Lucifer, by which I mean the network state? Won't we be clamoring, 00:50:39.735 --> 00:50:43.835 for a CEO to come in and set things straight rather than one of these crazies 00:50:43.835 --> 00:50:47.435 with their, you know, ethno-nationalist supremacy, whatever garbage. 00:50:47.755 --> 00:50:52.255 Why wouldn't we want that as the... So could that be a long-term solution that 00:50:52.255 --> 00:50:54.055 we're being engineered into in the long game? 00:50:54.175 --> 00:50:56.815 Yes, it could be part of the sort of longer-term plan. 00:50:57.095 --> 00:51:02.635 But having said that, I would never want to reduce this all to there is a plan 00:51:02.635 --> 00:51:04.795 and it is going to unfold this way. 00:51:04.955 --> 00:51:07.335 This will happen and this will happen and this will happen. 00:51:07.555 --> 00:51:11.895 I don't think that the world is engineered to that extent. And if I did, 00:51:12.075 --> 00:51:15.775 I would not be sitting here talking to you because, hey, it's all planned out 00:51:15.775 --> 00:51:18.755 and nothing I say or do will make any difference whatsoever. 00:51:18.755 --> 00:51:21.695 So I better just go off and have fun. No, I don't think so. 00:51:22.035 --> 00:51:26.235 I think events unfold and sometimes messy and obviously there's coordination 00:51:26.235 --> 00:51:27.995 and conspiracy happening all over the place. 00:51:28.115 --> 00:51:32.315 But sometimes things don't go according to the plan of the conspirators as if 00:51:32.315 --> 00:51:34.835 there's one singular group that's writing this script. 00:51:35.435 --> 00:51:36.875 And the real. 00:51:39.087 --> 00:51:43.707 I don't want to say genius, brilliance. I mean that in a dark sense of this 00:51:43.707 --> 00:51:49.627 agenda is that whatever happens, they find a way to spin that towards their 00:51:49.627 --> 00:51:51.247 agenda and towards their narrative. 00:51:51.507 --> 00:51:56.187 So any crisis can be used as an excuse towards their agenda. 00:51:56.387 --> 00:52:01.227 So anyway, I think there are probably people who would want to steer us into 00:52:01.227 --> 00:52:05.647 some sort of grand cataclysmic conflict so that they can build the new system 00:52:05.647 --> 00:52:09.247 on the ashes of the old. and that new system may be a network state, right? 00:52:09.367 --> 00:52:13.787 And there are certainly people at the table who I think have that as their driving, guiding ideology. 00:52:14.487 --> 00:52:17.007 Well, it's important what you highlighted there's important, 00:52:17.207 --> 00:52:21.807 you know, is that there very well could be multiple, like that's what I was 00:52:21.807 --> 00:52:24.387 kind of saying before is that you've got these elements that all seem to be 00:52:24.387 --> 00:52:27.087 aiming towards some kind of re-imagining of the way we all live. 00:52:27.427 --> 00:52:31.687 And, but that's not necessarily, then they may not necessarily have the same 00:52:31.687 --> 00:52:33.967 end goal, you know, but they're using each other. 00:52:34.087 --> 00:52:36.927 Like that's the same thing I saw during COVID-19 is that, you know, 00:52:37.047 --> 00:52:40.807 I made the argument then is that I'm not, I wasn't arguing at the time that, 00:52:40.927 --> 00:52:44.227 I mean, it's certainly possible as we all consider that they all were just working 00:52:44.227 --> 00:52:47.567 together, but that ultimately I've more saw it as that, well, all of them are more, 00:52:47.867 --> 00:52:52.807 you know, Russia, Iran, US, they see this as an opportunity to use this to control their peoples. 00:52:52.987 --> 00:52:56.487 And I think all of them are willing to take that, that tool to work in control. 00:52:56.667 --> 00:52:59.507 And, but at the same time, we're only willing to go in so far as they could 00:52:59.507 --> 00:53:01.447 get what they wanted out of it and weren't willing to, you know, 00:53:01.467 --> 00:53:02.287 that was my opinion anyway. 00:53:02.447 --> 00:53:06.647 So it wasn't like just this coordinate, it was, levels of coordination to their interests. 00:53:06.847 --> 00:53:09.947 You know, it's the same kind of thing is that I think that there's right now 00:53:09.947 --> 00:53:12.707 the technocratic sort of elements, I think the Zionist elements, 00:53:12.727 --> 00:53:14.967 there's overlaps to all of it, clearly, but that. 00:53:15.808 --> 00:53:18.368 It's a means to an end, right? Where they're like, even Trump, 00:53:18.448 --> 00:53:20.348 you could argue, is a useful idiot in all this. 00:53:20.428 --> 00:53:22.968 Then I think that's more likely than most of what we're seeing is that he's 00:53:22.968 --> 00:53:24.488 sort of just being manipulated. 00:53:24.688 --> 00:53:27.568 Netanyahu lies to him and they fluff, you know, given, and ultimately that's 00:53:27.568 --> 00:53:28.748 being used to certain agendas. 00:53:28.988 --> 00:53:31.668 And so I think like going back just for the comment to what you said, 00:53:31.748 --> 00:53:34.948 which I really agree with for those that saw me at the point of this statement, 00:53:35.108 --> 00:53:38.388 because I do agree that I never, I don't think anybody honest would argue that 00:53:38.388 --> 00:53:41.708 there's one guiding thing in any conversation, right? 00:53:41.708 --> 00:53:46.228 But for this post, it's an image of Elon Musk and Trump, and it simply says 00:53:46.228 --> 00:53:48.728 the fake globalist resistance ushering in the globalist plan. 00:53:48.928 --> 00:53:51.308 The point of that is not to say that I think there's one plan, 00:53:51.388 --> 00:53:55.008 but rather that they have a plan. That's the conversation. 00:53:55.208 --> 00:54:00.908 And it's not even that the fake globalist resistance knows that they are the fake globalist. 00:54:01.168 --> 00:54:04.608 Yes, exactly. No, it's even better if they don't know, if they genuinely believe 00:54:04.608 --> 00:54:07.468 they are the resistance and they're the ones that are standing up to this agenda 00:54:07.468 --> 00:54:11.488 because then they will truly put all of their energy and all of their passion into it. 00:54:11.874 --> 00:54:14.274 Meanwhile, they're being played by people who have more information. 00:54:14.454 --> 00:54:18.714 And I think that's one of the key ways that these kinds of grander conspiracies 00:54:18.714 --> 00:54:22.294 work is along the intelligence agency model. 00:54:22.394 --> 00:54:25.434 Intelligence agencies, as people who have studied them know, 00:54:25.714 --> 00:54:29.734 are not singular monolithic institutions in which there is perfect transparency 00:54:29.734 --> 00:54:32.974 amongst all the players within that agency about what the agency is and what 00:54:32.974 --> 00:54:34.114 it's doing. No, no, no, no, no. 00:54:34.274 --> 00:54:38.594 It's compartmentalized so that this person working over here might be sitting 00:54:38.594 --> 00:54:41.894 at a desk next to this person who has no idea what that person is doing. 00:54:42.134 --> 00:54:45.894 Or on a need to know basis, they might know this or that piece of the puzzle, 00:54:46.034 --> 00:54:47.294 but they do not know the whole puzzle. 00:54:47.594 --> 00:54:53.094 You have to go up the ladder of power to get the people who have more of those 00:54:53.094 --> 00:54:57.294 pieces of the puzzle that can then divvy out pieces of information that may 00:54:57.294 --> 00:55:01.554 be true, but may be used to lead people along certain ways or assume certain things. 00:55:01.554 --> 00:55:04.654 The person with the most information is really the winner. 00:55:04.794 --> 00:55:09.014 And that's generally not the people who are actually working at implementing the agenda. 00:55:09.254 --> 00:55:12.754 And in a similar way on the geopolitical scale, again, who knows, 00:55:12.894 --> 00:55:16.594 maybe Trump truly believes that he really is MAGA and he really thinks he's 00:55:16.594 --> 00:55:18.274 doing all of this for the best interest of the US. 00:55:18.274 --> 00:55:22.054 But again, he is just a product of whatever he's being told by his advisors 00:55:22.054 --> 00:55:24.374 and handlers and the pieces of information that he's getting. 00:55:24.574 --> 00:55:28.334 So to your point earlier about Netanyahu steering Trump, well, 00:55:28.434 --> 00:55:32.874 the New York Times, I'm sure you saw, came out with that piece recently talking about the... 00:55:33.767 --> 00:55:37.047 Previously secret meeting that the briefing 00:55:37.047 --> 00:55:39.927 in the White House Situation Room that Netanyahu gave to Trump 00:55:39.927 --> 00:55:42.987 about Iran and what you know how easy it was going to be etc in 00:55:42.987 --> 00:55:48.747 February as the culmination of a months long many many meeting process of trying 00:55:48.747 --> 00:55:52.867 to convince Trump along those lines so in that case you know Netanyahu holds 00:55:52.867 --> 00:55:57.027 more of the pieces of the puzzle than Trump and is using his credulity to to 00:55:57.027 --> 00:56:00.307 lead him along in a certain way but then who holds more of the pieces than And 00:56:00.307 --> 00:56:01.527 then Yahoo is the question. 00:56:01.787 --> 00:56:04.387 And how many layers up this Russian nesting doll can we go? 00:56:04.807 --> 00:56:08.447 And I also think at that point right there, and let me know what you think about this. 00:56:08.627 --> 00:56:13.127 You know, I have this overlapping theory idea like with about like Charlie Kirk 00:56:13.127 --> 00:56:14.987 and the same like maybe what happened there. 00:56:15.107 --> 00:56:18.587 And the idea that a lot of people are dealing with this potential awareness 00:56:18.587 --> 00:56:23.087 is that I argue that Charlie Kirk, and this is more for the sake of the point 00:56:23.087 --> 00:56:26.707 we're making now, who knows if that's the reality, but that some people might be going through this. 00:56:26.707 --> 00:56:30.007 But hypothetically that Kirk sort of become became aware of the, 00:56:30.007 --> 00:56:33.447 the Zionism versus Judaism, Israel kind of discussion. 00:56:33.887 --> 00:56:36.787 And cause I mean, I think that's actually very clear. The evidence backs that 00:56:36.787 --> 00:56:39.647 up, but it's my opinion that ultimately he remember he was going to Trump and 00:56:39.647 --> 00:56:41.667 saying like, you know, they're trying to trick you to go to war with Iran. 00:56:41.827 --> 00:56:44.047 Don't do it. Zionism or Zionists. 00:56:44.777 --> 00:56:47.557 Ackman and others started attacking him you know and he spoke out 00:56:47.557 --> 00:56:50.417 a lot of shows and you know whatever ultimately happened i think 00:56:50.417 --> 00:56:53.197 he was becoming uncomfortably aware that you know he can support 00:56:53.197 --> 00:56:56.957 israel but zionism is is not necessarily america first that was an issue and 00:56:56.957 --> 00:57:01.417 so i think we think about this in regard to trump that if it is the case that 00:57:01.417 --> 00:57:06.297 he's not necessarily aware of all this i'm i start to sense i guess i mean it's 00:57:06.297 --> 00:57:08.997 a guessing i guess what do you think of the likelihood that he is now becoming 00:57:08.997 --> 00:57:12.797 aware of that there is more of that he isn't being played in a way. 00:57:13.077 --> 00:57:15.937 And I personally started to notice a little bit of a difference in the way he 00:57:15.937 --> 00:57:17.137 was handling some of these situations. 00:57:18.057 --> 00:57:21.097 But, you know, is he being blackmailed? Is he being threatened? 00:57:21.317 --> 00:57:24.217 Is he in the line with the agenda? You know, who knows? But at the end of the 00:57:24.217 --> 00:57:28.197 day, the point in the grander sense is that just Republicans or Trump people 00:57:28.197 --> 00:57:31.317 in their cabinet are starting to go, hold on a second. This isn't America first. 00:57:31.557 --> 00:57:34.797 This is something very different. And then does that change the way they engage 00:57:34.797 --> 00:57:37.797 with, you know, what's going forward to the policy? It's just an interesting thought. 00:57:39.250 --> 00:57:45.470 It is. And I can offer nothing but my own speculations and non-expertise on these matters. 00:57:45.790 --> 00:57:49.790 But my assessment is that Trump is fundamentally a narcissist. 00:57:50.190 --> 00:57:56.110 Like a diagnosable, actual psychological condition narcissist who. 00:57:56.370 --> 00:57:59.370 Being such, is manipulable in various ways. 00:57:59.370 --> 00:58:02.710 Certainly by as everyone who works in 00:58:02.710 --> 00:58:06.310 and around the administration knows by now by constantly and 00:58:06.310 --> 00:58:09.210 completely pledging total fealty and allegiance 00:58:09.210 --> 00:58:12.830 and loyalty and man he's the greatest and it's all because of trump of course 00:58:12.830 --> 00:58:18.450 we every press conference now is all about praising trump to to cloud nine because 00:58:18.450 --> 00:58:22.650 we you know everyone understands that flattery will get you far with a narcissist 00:58:22.650 --> 00:58:25.870 like that but of course there are ways to play on narcissists to get them to 00:58:25.870 --> 00:58:27.030 do what you want in other ways, 00:58:27.230 --> 00:58:29.990 as Netanyahu and others have undoubtedly found out. 00:58:30.110 --> 00:58:34.110 But if there's any, I guess if there's any good point to the narcissism diagnosis, 00:58:34.130 --> 00:58:39.150 it would be that it means that when and if the narcissist becomes aware that 00:58:39.150 --> 00:58:43.310 he is being played or manipulated, he will have no compunction about severing 00:58:43.310 --> 00:58:46.590 ties with the person that he formerly seemed to like. 00:58:46.730 --> 00:58:50.410 And so an example in the first administration, remember in the first several 00:58:50.410 --> 00:58:54.650 months of the Trump 1.0 administration, it certainly seems Steve Bannon was 00:58:54.650 --> 00:58:57.510 going to be a incredibly powerful and influential behind the scenes. 00:58:57.690 --> 00:59:01.250 But once that started to become the meme and started to be parodied on, 00:59:01.250 --> 00:59:04.610 you know, Saturday Night Live and things like this, that the person who's got 00:59:04.610 --> 00:59:07.390 the real power is Bannon, not Trump. 00:59:07.650 --> 00:59:11.010 Well, Trump's narcissist tendencies got him, got the better. 00:59:11.170 --> 00:59:15.030 And of course he kicks him out the door. Right. So, yeah, so there may, 00:59:15.170 --> 00:59:19.110 I mean, that might be one of the ways that this plays out, at least on that sort of. 00:59:20.219 --> 00:59:24.799 That level of the drama. But again, the question is, is that level of the drama 00:59:24.799 --> 00:59:28.539 the important part of this overall overall agenda that's taking place? 00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:30.159 The answer to that would, of course, be no. 00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.399 Yeah i agree and i think that the final thing to 00:59:33.399 --> 00:59:36.299 ask you here that's relevant to all this is you know in a general sense 00:59:36.299 --> 00:59:39.319 about trump and more just sort of an interesting partisan point 00:59:39.319 --> 00:59:42.419 too and i think we've sort of addressed it but right now one of the larger things 00:59:42.419 --> 00:59:45.819 that keep is happening kind of back to the original original point of why i 00:59:45.819 --> 00:59:48.459 think this may be a scapegoat or just like an excuse to make it feel like he 00:59:48.459 --> 00:59:54.099 didn't fail is trump has changed right all this you got oh candace and tim pool 00:59:54.099 --> 00:59:58.619 and alex jones and everybody going oh my god trump's a different person today. I mean, I, 00:59:59.145 --> 01:00:02.825 I think it's pretty evident that he's been the same person, you know? 01:00:02.965 --> 01:00:06.585 So where, where do you see this going in regard to that? Do you think anybody's falling for it? 01:00:06.665 --> 01:00:09.805 And do you think that Trump himself is actually changing and I'm just not able 01:00:09.805 --> 01:00:13.525 to see it because I'm, you know, in my own way, blinded by what I think Trump 01:00:13.525 --> 01:00:16.445 is, you know, it's like, there's both sides of that, you know, how do you see it? 01:00:17.285 --> 01:00:22.545 Well, as you pointed out earlier, our message hasn't changed you and me and 01:00:22.545 --> 01:00:26.905 Derek and Whitney and I am a panel members, et cetera, has not changed in all 01:00:26.905 --> 01:00:32.265 of this time. We have been calling out Trump for what he is since day one, right? 01:00:32.425 --> 01:00:36.205 And we haven't changed. But the people who are calling us black-pilled and, 01:00:36.345 --> 01:00:39.105 oh, my God, you guys just don't understand, and et cetera, 01:00:39.545 --> 01:00:44.185 they're changing their perspective, which leads me to suspect that, 01:00:44.385 --> 01:00:49.745 hey, maybe actually we had a right, true analysis of the situation that was 01:00:49.745 --> 01:00:53.785 correct, has been proven correct, but those people will now hold that against us. 01:00:53.825 --> 01:00:56.445 Oh, no, you don't get it. He was good, but now he's bad. 01:00:57.385 --> 01:01:01.345 No, no, no. He was always this way. That's my take on it. But of course, 01:01:01.425 --> 01:01:02.765 that's the self-serving take, isn't it? 01:01:03.165 --> 01:01:05.945 Well, it's just perfect. It's the whole Scott Adams, COVID-19, 01:01:05.945 --> 01:01:07.745 I was right, even though I was wrong kind of a thing. 01:01:08.825 --> 01:01:11.925 It's retroactively creating a situation where, like you said, 01:01:12.025 --> 01:01:13.485 you're right and wrong at the same time somehow. 01:01:13.685 --> 01:01:19.225 But it's just confounding because how do we ever truly reach the people that... 01:01:19.225 --> 01:01:23.665 Like I always say, I do this not to... I mean, part of it is to keep everybody 01:01:23.665 --> 01:01:25.825 informed that are already part of the audience and keep up. 01:01:26.005 --> 01:01:29.205 But a lot of times it becomes just kind of high-fiving about stuff that we see. 01:01:29.365 --> 01:01:32.485 It's like that I'm trying to reach the people that have no idea about this. 01:01:32.625 --> 01:01:36.765 And how do you do that when it's such a difficult barrier between this propaganda 01:01:36.765 --> 01:01:39.185 field and the mainstream alternative media? 01:01:39.885 --> 01:01:42.945 I don't know. Do you think that's diminishing at all? Do you think that's going 01:01:42.945 --> 01:01:46.045 away? Are they floundering and all this? Or where do you see the change happening? 01:01:46.445 --> 01:01:50.065 If I had the definitive answer of how to reach people, I would be doing that. 01:01:50.065 --> 01:01:56.085 So I'm just doing the best I can yes I think I. 01:01:57.327 --> 01:02:00.627 Let's put it this way. I like listening to The Last American Vagabond because 01:02:00.627 --> 01:02:04.007 I like the fact that you always stress, I think people are seeing through this. 01:02:04.147 --> 01:02:06.527 I think people are more aware of this than ever before. 01:02:06.747 --> 01:02:12.047 And you know what? I don't know that to be the case, but I like that better 01:02:12.047 --> 01:02:16.747 than the alternative anyway. And at any rate, we should proceed on that as the 01:02:16.747 --> 01:02:18.307 assumption, because the alternative 01:02:18.307 --> 01:02:21.567 is to proceed as, oh, they control everything. They win in the end. 01:02:21.707 --> 01:02:26.327 So there's nothing we can do. Let's not try, which is the most effective enemy propaganda of all. 01:02:26.567 --> 01:02:30.727 More more effective than actually controlling everything is making people believe 01:02:30.727 --> 01:02:32.807 that you control everything. So why even try? 01:02:33.087 --> 01:02:36.867 Good. Great. We've just taken care of the people who would be most opposed to 01:02:36.867 --> 01:02:38.887 us because they're not even trying to be opposed to us anymore. 01:02:38.887 --> 01:02:42.187 So, no, we have to understand. We have to at least believe. 01:02:42.507 --> 01:02:48.127 We have to have hope as opposed to hopium. We have to have hope that people can change. 01:02:48.287 --> 01:02:52.627 It has happened to me. I went from a know nothing buffoon normie who grew up 01:02:52.627 --> 01:02:57.807 in, you know, statist indoctrinated Canada, believing all the statist indoctrination. 01:02:57.967 --> 01:03:02.867 I woke up from that. And look, it's a it's not like a on off switch. 01:03:03.027 --> 01:03:06.447 It's not a perfect process. We have stages of development. And I'm sure I'm 01:03:06.447 --> 01:03:09.327 still wrong about a lot of things, but I'm better than I used to be. 01:03:09.547 --> 01:03:14.407 And we have to have hope that other people can step through those hoops and 01:03:14.407 --> 01:03:16.867 escape the status doctrine indoctrination system. 01:03:16.867 --> 01:03:21.927 We also have to have human compassion and empathy for those people to help them 01:03:21.927 --> 01:03:26.647 in that process rather than lecture them and be mean to them and kick them while 01:03:26.647 --> 01:03:30.027 they're down and make fun of them for being intellectually crippled by the system 01:03:30.027 --> 01:03:31.347 that is intellectually crippling them. 01:03:31.447 --> 01:03:35.067 No, let's let's reach the helping hand out to people like that and hopefully 01:03:35.067 --> 01:03:37.567 draw more people into our team. 01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:41.940 You team humanity, right? That's the team I'm on. 01:03:42.460 --> 01:03:45.220 Yeah. Thank you for that, James. I appreciate that. I just, I hope people hear 01:03:45.220 --> 01:03:47.860 that, you know, that it's, that's what we do this for, right. 01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:51.140 Is to try to, you know, actually, you know, change, you know, 01:03:51.200 --> 01:03:53.400 like, like actually you pointed out last time and it's important to say it this 01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:55.020 way, not, we don't want to change your mind. 01:03:55.120 --> 01:03:58.240 We want to give you the opportunity and the information to look at the other 01:03:58.240 --> 01:03:59.780 perspective and maybe change your mind. 01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:02.320 If you see that being, you know, cause it's not, we're trying to control people's 01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:05.660 minds, but it's important to understand that there are other views to all of this. 01:04:05.740 --> 01:04:08.900 And I'm of the mind, as I said, and I'm glad I actually believe that. 01:04:09.020 --> 01:04:10.640 I really do. I think people are changing. 01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:13.980 I think things are changing. And I think even in my time doing this, 01:04:14.080 --> 01:04:18.240 I've seen other moments where there was kind of surges like this and dips, right? 01:04:18.380 --> 01:04:21.020 And I think this comes and goes. And I think we have an opportunity like we 01:04:21.020 --> 01:04:24.600 have before, maybe a bigger one than I've seen, probably in my mind, 01:04:24.660 --> 01:04:29.820 because this is a worse, larger kind of culmination of a genus that I've ever seen, but it's there. 01:04:30.120 --> 01:04:32.200 You know, and if we just, it's like, like, like at last point years, 01:04:32.260 --> 01:04:35.160 then 2024 point, like you said, we were calling this stuff out. 01:04:35.520 --> 01:04:38.080 And I, not, not like just a, you know, bad things are going to happen, 01:04:38.140 --> 01:04:41.040 but like for crying out loud, like to demonstrate our value here, 01:04:41.080 --> 01:04:43.800 Jay, we were saying that this exact situation was going to happen. 01:04:44.040 --> 01:04:47.420 That's what we were talking about. And so we had an opportunity right there. 01:04:47.660 --> 01:04:51.640 Like we have many other situations in the past to maybe do something about it. 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:56.700 You know, maybe in 2024 to maybe do something that could stall this, stop it, slow it down. 01:04:56.840 --> 01:04:59.220 And of course people shouted us down, you know, but that happens. 01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:01.820 It's every agenda in history, you know, there's different sides to it. 01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:05.740 But right now there, you know, as always, if we do it now, maybe we can stop 01:05:05.740 --> 01:05:09.080 something that's being planned before. Maybe we can actually stop this still if we truly try. 01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:12.180 So let's hope people are listening, you know, and I hope people will check out 01:05:12.180 --> 01:05:15.740 your work more than anything, James, because as I've pointed out a thousand 01:05:15.740 --> 01:05:18.580 times in my time doing this, you know, you were pretty much the, 01:05:18.700 --> 01:05:21.380 one of the main inspirations for me to even start doing this. 01:05:21.460 --> 01:05:24.300 And your work has stood there as this kind of just, you know, 01:05:24.380 --> 01:05:27.220 I hope people will look at it because it will blow your mind to see the kind 01:05:27.220 --> 01:05:28.600 of stuff that James talked about over the years. 01:05:28.780 --> 01:05:32.560 I often point to your Al Qaeda documentary to show people how clear that story is. 01:05:32.740 --> 01:05:35.900 I show people take the time to look, you know, so anything you want to leave 01:05:35.900 --> 01:05:36.860 us with James on the way out? 01:05:37.549 --> 01:05:42.589 I appreciate that very much, Ryan. Man, inspiring someone like yourself to get 01:05:42.589 --> 01:05:45.629 into this is why I do what I do. 01:05:45.769 --> 01:05:49.249 So it's very, very gratifying to hear. And I hope people will take advantage 01:05:49.249 --> 01:05:52.549 of your offer there and take a look at my work because it is all there for free. 01:05:53.149 --> 01:05:57.189 20 years now, 19 years of archives there at corporatereport.com. 01:05:57.309 --> 01:06:01.829 So I hope people will check that out. And I think the real win is not even in 01:06:01.829 --> 01:06:07.249 not even directly in what we can and cannot accomplish in with regards to these 01:06:07.249 --> 01:06:10.329 grander geopolitical machinations that are taking place at levels, 01:06:10.589 --> 01:06:12.689 you know, far, far removed from the average person. 01:06:12.689 --> 01:06:17.349 But at the very least, in our ability to get people to recognize what is happening 01:06:17.349 --> 01:06:21.609 and to see through the narrative tricks that are being played on them so that 01:06:21.609 --> 01:06:24.189 we can get to what actually matters, 01:06:24.189 --> 01:06:29.269 which is creating community with like minded people in voluntary associations 01:06:29.269 --> 01:06:35.209 that we can create a world that has nothing to do with their phony baloney world 01:06:35.209 --> 01:06:36.849 that is completely detached. 01:06:36.849 --> 01:06:40.629 We will create a better world for ourselves in our communities, 01:06:40.629 --> 01:06:42.729 and that will be our win in the end. 01:06:42.909 --> 01:06:45.689 So if we can get people to recognize that, I will take that as a win. 01:06:46.169 --> 01:06:50.189 You're here. Well said. Thank you, James. Well, as always, everybody out there, 01:06:50.309 --> 01:06:52.929 thank you for tuning in. As always, question everything. 01:06:53.289 --> 01:06:55.589 Come to your own conclusions. Stay vigilant. 01:07:06.849 --> 01:07:11.469 Thank you.