WEBVTT 00:00:02.517 --> 00:00:08.017 Mr. Verandus, how you doing? What's up James, how are you? I'm doing alright. I sound alright. 00:00:08.817 --> 00:00:12.577 Yeah, sounds good. You sound good? Yeah, then we're good to go. 00:00:12.637 --> 00:00:16.477 I know your time's always a bit limited, so we'll... Let me get a little light on this actually. 00:00:16.997 --> 00:00:19.637 Let me get a little light on properly. Here we go. 00:00:21.717 --> 00:00:24.917 That's better. How you been? 00:00:26.757 --> 00:00:30.097 Chilly. It's a little bit cool out here. I know, I'm the same way. 00:00:30.097 --> 00:00:31.137 You look pretty chilly too. 00:00:31.897 --> 00:00:36.857 Yeah, I just came from a basketball practice. I coach my daughter and my son's teams. 00:00:37.197 --> 00:00:41.117 Oh, nice. How are they doing? They're doing good. I mean, I love coaching. 00:00:41.237 --> 00:00:44.637 You can use some of your communication skills and you get to know the kids. 00:00:44.637 --> 00:00:46.617 You feel like you're involved. 00:00:46.897 --> 00:00:50.857 One of my favorite quotes, a good coach can change a game, a great coach can change a life. 00:00:51.097 --> 00:00:54.697 And I feel like I get to be a part of their life journey, you know, 00:00:54.737 --> 00:00:59.657 not just their sports journey, but I get to be a mentor to some sense and hopefully 00:00:59.657 --> 00:01:01.077 give them some useful advice. 00:01:01.237 --> 00:01:05.337 And that's definitely something I think kids don't have enough of is like adults 00:01:05.337 --> 00:01:08.277 who will take the time to listen and talk to them and get through with them. 00:01:09.608 --> 00:01:14.208 Role model. Yeah. That's the real teaching. I wouldn't call myself a role model, 00:01:14.368 --> 00:01:15.748 but that's a lot of pressure. 00:01:16.788 --> 00:01:20.428 Well, don't think of it that way, but you are modeling how to, 00:01:20.428 --> 00:01:25.448 how to be a mentor, which is important for young children to see. 00:01:25.748 --> 00:01:29.508 Yeah. And that reminds me of another quote, which I use all the time and I give credit to you. 00:01:29.708 --> 00:01:33.308 You're the one who said it initially was a kids don't do what you say. They do what you do. 00:01:33.448 --> 00:01:36.388 I think it's that your quote. yeah yeah well something 00:01:36.388 --> 00:01:39.128 along those lines yeah yeah yeah so yeah so you're 00:01:39.128 --> 00:01:42.088 absolutely right i mean like it or not you know you're you're 00:01:42.088 --> 00:01:45.208 uh you know people are watching you know the way you're behaving and the way 00:01:45.208 --> 00:01:48.748 you're acting and and they're gonna you know that's why i always say like fat 00:01:48.748 --> 00:01:53.188 kids fat parents typically fit kids fit parents a lot of times it's just kids 00:01:53.188 --> 00:01:57.108 adopting the way of life of yeah i mean there's a lot of things that go into 00:01:57.108 --> 00:02:01.188 that genetics as well as the food diet that they're obviously all consuming. 00:02:01.548 --> 00:02:05.588 But yeah, they definitely see the habits and it becomes the norm. 00:02:06.068 --> 00:02:09.988 And that's one thing that I never really thought about when I was growing up 00:02:09.988 --> 00:02:14.968 was, I mean, you kind of can consciously be aware of it, but you don't really think about it. 00:02:15.088 --> 00:02:18.308 Like my family is not the way everybody lives, right? 00:02:18.728 --> 00:02:21.888 And I had two loving, supportive parents who 00:02:21.888 --> 00:02:25.228 took care of us and gave us everything that we could possibly 00:02:25.228 --> 00:02:27.928 need to grow and thrive and were there for us 00:02:27.928 --> 00:02:32.688 and supported us so i you know my default is to tend to assume oh yeah that's 00:02:32.688 --> 00:02:36.228 probably what most households are like no that is not what most households are 00:02:36.228 --> 00:02:40.828 like so you have to you have to see you have to live a little and see more of 00:02:40.828 --> 00:02:45.468 the world to understand just how special your circumstances are. 00:02:46.634 --> 00:02:49.354 Yeah. And that's, that's something that's really interesting and important too, 00:02:49.474 --> 00:02:53.214 is like this idea of like, what is normal, right? Like at normal is different to everybody. 00:02:53.494 --> 00:02:57.914 And when, and we'll, I guess we can jump right into some of the topics I wanted 00:02:57.914 --> 00:03:02.354 to, uh, want to do a special question for Corbett's show where I just ask you 00:03:02.354 --> 00:03:05.154 a bunch of questions and, and, and just kind of get your take on it. 00:03:05.514 --> 00:03:09.974 One of them is, uh, the, the Epstein tape that came out with Bannon. 00:03:11.674 --> 00:03:15.574 And yeah, let me get you, before, you know, I guess there's no point in me sharing my take, 00:03:15.794 --> 00:03:20.314 let me get your take, I'm kind of interested on things that maybe stuck out, 00:03:20.514 --> 00:03:22.074 things that maybe you found interesting, 00:03:22.294 --> 00:03:26.154 things that, like, not that, I mean, I guess in some sense I'm asking you to 00:03:26.154 --> 00:03:28.714 psychoanalyze them, but like this idea of like, 00:03:28.894 --> 00:03:32.374 you know, was there any hints of his character or the way he answered things 00:03:32.374 --> 00:03:39.654 or any of the stories he told that maybe shined a light on who he was as a person 00:03:39.654 --> 00:03:40.894 that maybe you didn't know before? 00:03:43.654 --> 00:03:46.474 Yeah. Well, I mean, there are some very specific things. Like, 00:03:46.714 --> 00:03:49.454 for example, I should have known this, but I did not know that he was a member 00:03:49.454 --> 00:03:53.114 of the Trilateral Commission there from apparently the inception of the Trilateral 00:03:53.114 --> 00:03:54.514 Commission, at least the way he told it. 00:03:55.054 --> 00:03:58.174 Something like that. It couldn't be possible that he was there in the late 70s 00:03:58.174 --> 00:04:01.034 when it was because he was nobody, nobody back then. 00:04:01.134 --> 00:04:03.974 But I don't know. Anyway, he said he went there in the 90s. 00:04:04.714 --> 00:04:07.874 I should have known that, but I was just learning that from that interview. 00:04:08.514 --> 00:04:13.594 But I would be I would be hesitant to take too much out of the way that he is 00:04:13.594 --> 00:04:18.754 portraying himself in this interview, because this is very explicitly a PR project 00:04:18.754 --> 00:04:20.314 to resuscitate his image. 00:04:20.734 --> 00:04:26.014 And I, you know, I haven't looked into all the details of specifically how. 00:04:26.938 --> 00:04:31.078 How he had contracted Bannon to do this. And, you know, I'm sure Bannon says, 00:04:31.278 --> 00:04:34.798 oh, he was going to make a documentary about what how big a monster Epstein 00:04:34.798 --> 00:04:36.178 was. Yeah, that's what he was doing. 00:04:36.538 --> 00:04:39.178 But it's a very glad handing interview in a lot of ways. 00:04:40.278 --> 00:04:45.358 Still, having said that, so this is a PR effort. So let's not take it at completely at face value. 00:04:45.798 --> 00:04:49.598 But there are some interesting insights. I mean, hell, for one, 00:04:49.798 --> 00:04:53.778 he admits what we again all should know by this point that the Federal Reserve 00:04:53.778 --> 00:05:00.618 is a complete load of hooey that uses wizardry, financial wizardry and subterfuge to do what it does. 00:05:00.858 --> 00:05:05.118 Again, we conspiracy realists should know that, but it's always vindicating 00:05:05.118 --> 00:05:09.238 to hear it confirmed by one of the insiders. 00:05:10.678 --> 00:05:14.458 But having said that, so I'm still, I actually haven't finished the last 15 00:05:14.458 --> 00:05:16.538 minutes of this interview, so I still have to do that. 00:05:16.638 --> 00:05:19.618 But I am going to be writing about this specifically in my newsletter this weekend, 00:05:19.718 --> 00:05:21.858 things that I've learned from this new Epstein files dump. 00:05:21.998 --> 00:05:25.398 And I'm still looking and finding new things and things that I didn't know about. 00:05:25.558 --> 00:05:30.318 So if there's anyone in your audience who knows any sort of tips or things or 00:05:30.318 --> 00:05:35.798 things that are worth investigating from this big 3 million document Epstein dump, let me know. 00:05:36.318 --> 00:05:39.078 People tend to assume I know everything. I've seen everything. 00:05:39.218 --> 00:05:43.738 I know you've already seen this, James, but no, I can't read 3 million documents myself. 00:05:43.978 --> 00:05:46.258 So if you have anything that sticks out to you, let me know. 00:05:47.238 --> 00:05:50.058 Well, one, it's a compliment that everybody assumes, you know, 00:05:50.258 --> 00:05:51.598 everything that's probably a compliment. 00:05:52.598 --> 00:05:56.158 So if you didn't get to the end of it, that's the part that's kind of fascinating 00:05:56.158 --> 00:05:58.998 to me, because initially, that's kind of what I assumed to a Mike, 00:05:58.998 --> 00:06:04.378 okay, if this is a part of a documentary, how much of like, the nitty gritty 00:06:04.378 --> 00:06:05.338 are they really going to get into? 00:06:05.498 --> 00:06:09.198 Or is this just going to be a barely scratched surface type thing just to kind 00:06:09.198 --> 00:06:13.778 of make him look intelligent and polite, and whatnot. But at the end of the 00:06:13.778 --> 00:06:16.878 interview, which was funny because I didn't finish it either. 00:06:17.058 --> 00:06:21.358 And then I saw a clip circulating that I didn't see yet. 00:06:21.438 --> 00:06:23.478 But I'm like, I'm like an hour in, hour and 15 minutes. I'm like, 00:06:23.558 --> 00:06:26.658 where is this clip? So I'm like, I got to go back and finish watching it. 00:06:26.878 --> 00:06:29.478 Finish watching it. And at the end of it, they talk about the devil. 00:06:30.338 --> 00:06:34.798 And if he thought he was the devil, he like specifically asks him if he thinks 00:06:34.798 --> 00:06:36.238 he's a devil. And he's like, oh, what do you mean? You know, 00:06:36.318 --> 00:06:37.818 he's like, well, you got the traits of a devil. 00:06:37.978 --> 00:06:41.058 Then he talked about like the things that he's been accused of. 00:06:41.138 --> 00:06:44.538 He's like, you've been locked up for this. and that and almost asking if he 00:06:44.538 --> 00:06:45.758 felt any remorse or whatever. 00:06:46.038 --> 00:06:51.458 The crazy thing is he so casually talked about being in jail and the things 00:06:51.458 --> 00:06:55.758 that he was in jail for and like he had zero remorse of it. 00:06:56.018 --> 00:06:58.778 And then the other thing that was really interesting, I think I told you via 00:06:58.778 --> 00:07:03.098 email, like how polite he seemed, but it almost seemed like one of those true 00:07:03.098 --> 00:07:08.818 crime documentaries where they're interviewing the psychopath killer and they're really polite, 00:07:09.178 --> 00:07:11.038 but they're psychopaths. 00:07:11.733 --> 00:07:14.513 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the way I'm looking at this. 00:07:14.593 --> 00:07:17.613 Again, I'm not going to say that I've seen into his soul or I know him from 00:07:17.613 --> 00:07:19.913 this PR staged sit down documentary. 00:07:20.173 --> 00:07:24.193 I mean, clearly he's trying to present a certain version of himself that he 00:07:24.193 --> 00:07:26.653 apparently could present when he needed to. 00:07:26.653 --> 00:07:29.453 But again listen to anyone who met him 00:07:29.453 --> 00:07:32.173 or talked to him again this is all coming i guess 00:07:32.173 --> 00:07:35.153 post the revelation of who he was but 00:07:35.153 --> 00:07:37.933 a lot of people have said that just from the very beginning 00:07:37.933 --> 00:07:40.733 he was lewd crude and ultimately you know 00:07:40.733 --> 00:07:43.873 immediately creepy and disgusting so um 00:07:43.873 --> 00:07:47.613 there's been enough vindication of that from enough different sources that i 00:07:47.613 --> 00:07:51.893 think that's probably generally true that he did not have any interest in formality 00:07:51.893 --> 00:07:55.733 or politeness or anything of that sort so i think what we are seeing here is 00:07:55.733 --> 00:08:00.413 a very studied attempt to try to put forward a certain version of himself for 00:08:00.413 --> 00:08:01.213 the documentary camera. 00:08:02.299 --> 00:08:08.599 Yeah. But I do believe if you talk long enough, some of who you are might accidentally come out. 00:08:08.799 --> 00:08:14.239 And how casually he talked about the things he was in jail for. 00:08:14.499 --> 00:08:17.779 And you could tell there's a detachment to his crimes. 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:22.979 There's no guilt. But one thing that was fascinating was that a lot of experts 00:08:22.979 --> 00:08:25.179 talk about how they thought he was a fraud, right? 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:28.339 You heard, what was it, Brett Weinstein talk about this and whatnot, 00:08:28.359 --> 00:08:30.439 and how he didn't seem that intelligent. 00:08:30.579 --> 00:08:35.179 But one thing that did seem interesting to me was his explanation on systems, right? 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:41.079 Because I tend to have similar philosophy that a lot of times experts are flawed 00:08:41.079 --> 00:08:45.299 in understanding a whole system because you focus on one thing, 00:08:45.299 --> 00:08:47.039 you don't understand how the whole system works. 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:51.199 I'm curious if that's one of the ways he's impressed some of the Wall Street 00:08:51.199 --> 00:08:53.099 guys or some of the scientists or whatever. 00:08:53.239 --> 00:08:57.779 It's like he had this, you know, and really using the metaphor of the human body, it's true. 00:08:57.899 --> 00:09:01.579 Like, if I go to a hand expert, he doesn't know anything about how my lungs work. 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.399 If I go to a lung expert, he doesn't know if I tear ACL, what that's about or 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:06.779 how do you fix that or recover, you know. 00:09:06.899 --> 00:09:11.839 So it's like there's very little understanding of how the whole systems work. 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:14.939 And it seems like he seemed very intrigued with that. 00:09:14.939 --> 00:09:19.659 And I don't know if that's one of his worldviews that he used to try to, 00:09:19.839 --> 00:09:24.959 or one of his worldviews on why he tried to get involved with so many different 00:09:24.959 --> 00:09:27.759 things, because he wanted to control or manipulate the whole system. 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:32.219 So he was involved with fashion, with Wall Street, with science, 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:34.459 with all these things. I mean, what was your takeaway? way. 00:09:35.579 --> 00:09:39.679 Yes, I think what you're pointing to is a fact that, again, like when we talk 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:44.579 about, for example, a psychopath, we are talking about a person who has different, 00:09:45.177 --> 00:09:48.497 traits and inclinations and interests and other such things. 00:09:48.737 --> 00:09:52.877 And you can have very smart, high-level functioning psychopaths who are extremely 00:09:52.877 --> 00:09:56.637 shrewd in calculating and able to make money and function in various ways. 00:09:56.797 --> 00:10:01.317 You can have bumbling psychopaths who are just whatever, garden run-of-the-mill 00:10:01.317 --> 00:10:05.457 failed serial killers who end up in jail very quickly, and everything in between. 00:10:05.677 --> 00:10:11.277 The defining trait of psychopathy doesn't define the characteristics of how 00:10:11.277 --> 00:10:14.417 that psychopathy manifests itself in a person's character. 00:10:14.737 --> 00:10:20.917 And so it's very possible, yes, Epstein was a very shrewd person in a number 00:10:20.917 --> 00:10:26.157 of ways, obviously, to be able to manipulate various people and know what makes them tick. 00:10:26.577 --> 00:10:33.237 And perhaps it is that general curiosity of what makes these things tick that motivated Epstein. 00:10:33.337 --> 00:10:37.117 But the real question is, well, what was he what was he figuring this out for? 00:10:37.317 --> 00:10:42.937 What was the purpose of it? And so, in my case, I think what's interesting about 00:10:42.937 --> 00:10:49.317 Epstein's obvious, for example, interest in science is I think he was motivated 00:10:49.317 --> 00:10:51.477 by a eugenical philosophy. 00:10:51.817 --> 00:10:54.777 I mean, this is the reason he was creating the breeding program. 00:10:54.777 --> 00:10:58.477 It is Santa Fe, you know, bunker that he was creating there. 00:10:59.577 --> 00:11:05.577 He wanted to impregnate as many women as possible to start a breeding program to carry on his genes. 00:11:05.717 --> 00:11:09.317 That's why he was hanging out with Frank Church and these other modern day eugenicists. 00:11:09.457 --> 00:11:10.577 He was very interested in that. 00:11:10.777 --> 00:11:12.957 So from that interest, of course, 00:11:13.037 --> 00:11:17.057 he wants to network and draw into his network all the highest level, 00:11:17.617 --> 00:11:21.717 scientists that he can to talk about these things or high level, 00:11:21.917 --> 00:11:25.817 like high energy physics and other such things that could be important for quantum 00:11:25.817 --> 00:11:28.677 computing and other things that will lead to the transhuman nightmare that we 00:11:28.677 --> 00:11:29.937 know he was also interested in. 00:11:30.137 --> 00:11:35.437 So again, I'm sure he was smart in his own way, or at least in certain ways. 00:11:35.617 --> 00:11:40.137 But the question is, what was he using that for? And I think it was quite obviously 00:11:40.137 --> 00:11:41.877 all about manipulation and control. 00:11:43.575 --> 00:11:48.615 It was. And so who do you think, so what's his motivation? Well, 00:11:48.615 --> 00:11:49.675 like, what was his motivation? 00:11:50.095 --> 00:11:53.555 Because obviously you've done a lot of research onto this and a lot of people, 00:11:53.655 --> 00:11:56.095 Whitney Webb or a mutual friend and many others have done. 00:11:56.275 --> 00:11:59.775 But it's hard to pinpoint exactly what his motivation was. 00:11:59.875 --> 00:12:05.235 This video was interesting because he talked a little bit about the metaphysical, 00:12:05.615 --> 00:12:09.955 like a little bit of, you know, not understanding reality and gravity and like, 00:12:09.955 --> 00:12:11.535 you know, and like quantum physics. 00:12:11.535 --> 00:12:14.975 And I think he said in the video, if anybody tells you they understand quantum 00:12:14.975 --> 00:12:17.355 physics, he's like, they don't understand quantum physics. 00:12:17.475 --> 00:12:22.175 And he's not the first one to say that, but it's like he had some type of understanding 00:12:22.175 --> 00:12:30.415 that a lot of what we say is the explanations to everything are just assumptions and black matter. 00:12:30.435 --> 00:12:35.855 We came up with that term to explain the unexplainable, but it's still unexplainable. 00:12:35.995 --> 00:12:40.575 Experts will use terms to explain the unexplainable. and then you assume because 00:12:40.575 --> 00:12:44.135 they made up that term they must have some explanation on what it is and they don't. 00:12:44.275 --> 00:12:48.715 So that was fascinating about his outlook and kind of understanding of that. 00:12:50.363 --> 00:12:53.703 Yeah. And I think that probably, again, goes to show that this is a man who 00:12:53.703 --> 00:12:58.603 dealt in BS and could probably detect a BS when it was being thrown at him. 00:12:58.723 --> 00:13:03.023 So he was, you know, even when he was around these high level physicists and others, 00:13:03.063 --> 00:13:09.263 he probably had some ability to sort out the ones who were completely just BSing 00:13:09.263 --> 00:13:12.703 their way through things and the people who were at least going to be honest 00:13:12.703 --> 00:13:15.523 about what they don't do and don't know and what they do and don't understand. 00:13:15.523 --> 00:13:19.483 And that was that was, again, an interesting part of that injury that I saw 00:13:19.483 --> 00:13:23.683 was when Ben was constantly trying to going back to. 00:13:23.903 --> 00:13:27.303 But you understand this financial system better than anyone and you understand 00:13:27.303 --> 00:13:31.563 what's going on. You understood this. So how do you explain the 2008 financial crisis? 00:13:32.063 --> 00:13:35.183 And Epstein was trying to make the point, well, it's easy to try to put some 00:13:35.183 --> 00:13:36.723 sort of narrative on it after the fact. 00:13:36.923 --> 00:13:42.123 But in the chaos of the moment, it's a chaotic system. So you can't precisely determine everything. 00:13:43.083 --> 00:13:46.743 And I think that's just that's, you know, what a horrible thing to say, 00:13:46.803 --> 00:13:49.103 but it's the more honest way of looking at these things, isn't it? 00:13:49.103 --> 00:13:52.603 And that's actually the interesting part about this, 00:13:52.703 --> 00:13:56.183 if you think about it, is that, yeah, these people who rely on manipulation 00:13:56.183 --> 00:14:02.823 and deception and giving people partial truths or hanging things in front of 00:14:02.823 --> 00:14:04.283 them in order to make them do this or that, 00:14:04.383 --> 00:14:08.263 the people who are into power and control in that way probably have to have 00:14:08.263 --> 00:14:14.443 good BS detectors and have to understand the value of being honest with themselves 00:14:14.443 --> 00:14:17.403 about certain things, like what they do and don't know. 00:14:17.403 --> 00:14:21.543 Because you will be more effective if you are actually, if you're not deceiving yourself. 00:14:22.583 --> 00:14:26.063 And then you can more effectively deceive others, I guess, would be the way 00:14:26.063 --> 00:14:27.303 that the psychopath would think of it. 00:14:28.406 --> 00:14:33.886 Yeah, that's interesting. And yeah, I guess what I was wondering was, 00:14:34.066 --> 00:14:36.906 because I was watching it, I'm like, it kind of sounds like, 00:14:37.066 --> 00:14:41.366 because the way he was talking about math and him trying to understand the unexplainable 00:14:41.366 --> 00:14:45.086 and systems, it almost sounds like, you know, 00:14:45.166 --> 00:14:49.066 the stories you hear about like secret societies trying to understand the nature 00:14:49.066 --> 00:14:51.646 of reality and suppressing that information from us, 00:14:51.746 --> 00:14:55.186 not wanting us to think about the metaphysical world. 00:14:55.286 --> 00:14:57.726 You know, some people have made the argument that that's why there's a war on 00:14:57.726 --> 00:15:01.446 religion or spirituality, because they want you to be just materialistic machines 00:15:01.446 --> 00:15:06.226 that just feed the machine and you don't zoom out and ask those bigger questions. 00:15:06.366 --> 00:15:08.106 So like that, you know, I was trying to figure out, I'm like, 00:15:08.126 --> 00:15:12.566 is that what he's into? Is that, was he, was he a part of some, 00:15:12.686 --> 00:15:17.786 because he seemed like, again, the trilateral committee, the Santa Fe Institute, the Rockefellers. 00:15:17.886 --> 00:15:21.006 I mean, he was involved with so many of these people who were either in secret 00:15:21.006 --> 00:15:25.166 societies or part of these secret societies or founded secret societies that 00:15:25.166 --> 00:15:30.106 i'm like i wonder if if this is a glimpse of some of the stuff they talk about 00:15:30.106 --> 00:15:35.106 or suppress the public yeah yeah i mean i assume it is right i mean i. 00:15:35.866 --> 00:15:40.826 Well again again this is a pr effort so we have to take that into account but 00:15:40.826 --> 00:15:44.926 yes i mean this does sound like the type of thing that he has talked about before 00:15:44.926 --> 00:15:50.046 at any rate with other people so um but also i mean just this is more of an 00:15:50.046 --> 00:15:53.466 intuitive level sense with me rather than something that I could point to specifically, 00:15:53.726 --> 00:15:59.526 but I do get the sense that he is someone who has had the chance to talk to 00:15:59.526 --> 00:16:02.326 physicists and others and likes to talk about these things. 00:16:02.686 --> 00:16:06.426 But I assume he's still at the pop sci level of understanding here. 00:16:06.526 --> 00:16:11.646 It's not like he's really delving into the mathematics of quantum physics and other such things. 00:16:11.806 --> 00:16:15.226 He just sort of understands the explanations that he has no doubt been told 00:16:15.226 --> 00:16:19.766 by many scientists or popularizers of science. But I don't think he's actually, 00:16:19.846 --> 00:16:22.446 you know, able to do the work himself. 00:16:24.337 --> 00:16:29.057 Now, do you think, I mean, there's obviously links to Mossad and his, 00:16:29.217 --> 00:16:34.357 he has a very shadowy beginning to his success because it seems like it takes 00:16:34.357 --> 00:16:37.277 a huge leap out of nowhere. 00:16:38.017 --> 00:16:44.317 Do you think, was he working CIA, Mossad, was there a primary funder or a supporter 00:16:44.317 --> 00:16:49.577 of what he was doing? Or do you think he was maybe a pond in a bigger game? 00:16:49.717 --> 00:16:53.197 Like what, what's, what's your thoughts on that? well luckily 00:16:53.197 --> 00:16:55.857 we don't have to speculate on that anymore ricky because i don't 00:16:55.857 --> 00:16:59.957 know if you saw but the daily mail has cracked the case epstein's 00:16:59.957 --> 00:17:02.917 sex empire was kgb honey trap 00:17:02.917 --> 00:17:07.717 pedophile financier had multiple talks with putin after conviction with russian 00:17:07.717 --> 00:17:13.517 girls flown into harvest compromet on world famous figures and what what was 00:17:13.517 --> 00:17:17.657 the first story that i saw get pushed pushed out absolutely everywhere from 00:17:17.657 --> 00:17:20.757 this new document dump was Bill Gates. 00:17:21.177 --> 00:17:29.837 Bill Gates had contracted an STD from the Russian girls that he had been procured. 00:17:29.857 --> 00:17:32.917 He had procured through Epstein or whatever, and had... 00:17:33.979 --> 00:17:40.579 Written or had wanted epstein to give get him antibiotics that he could then, 00:17:41.239 --> 00:17:44.139 surrepetitiously slip to melinda right this is 00:17:44.139 --> 00:17:48.919 the big crazy headline that came out as i saw one of the first big stories that 00:17:48.919 --> 00:17:53.659 got reported out of this but when you look into it actually what is this about 00:17:53.659 --> 00:18:02.719 it's an email that epstein had written to himself and saved as a draft in his drafts of emails. 00:18:02.879 --> 00:18:06.419 And it is from the perspective of someone who is resigning from the Bill and 00:18:06.419 --> 00:18:07.359 Melinda Gates Foundation. 00:18:07.899 --> 00:18:13.339 So what? Did Epstein work for the Bill? No, of course not. So what was this? 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:20.819 And people are speculating it's a potential resignation letter that Epstein was helping this, 00:18:21.619 --> 00:18:26.739 scientific advisor who was working with Bill Gates used for his resignation, 00:18:26.739 --> 00:18:30.879 where he was putting in these things about, you know, the Russian girls and 00:18:30.879 --> 00:18:32.479 STD and antibiotics and stuff. 00:18:32.659 --> 00:18:38.119 But again, this is all just coming from a draft of an email that Epstein was writing to himself. 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:44.539 So this is I mean, this is going to be here's the thing I have multiple times 00:18:44.539 --> 00:18:50.519 played and laughed at the clip of Trump campaign candidate Trump in 2024 when 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:53.079 he was questioned, questioned about the Epstein files. Would you release them? 00:18:53.459 --> 00:18:56.679 He's like, yeah, probably. Yeah, maybe. Why not? 00:18:56.779 --> 00:18:59.679 But you've got to be careful. There's a lot of phony stuff in there, 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:01.679 in those files. Well, you know what? Okay. 00:19:02.479 --> 00:19:06.999 He's probably true. There probably is a lot of phony stuff and false trails that will get, 00:19:07.756 --> 00:19:13.416 over sensationalized and overly reported in the mainstream so that they can then be debunked later. 00:19:13.916 --> 00:19:19.436 Like, oh, my God, did you hear about, you know, Trump raping a 13 year old and other such things? 00:19:19.636 --> 00:19:24.316 Well, again, this is coming from anonymous tips that the FBI had received that 00:19:24.316 --> 00:19:27.836 they had in these documents that they're itemizing what, you know, 00:19:27.916 --> 00:19:28.896 the tips that they'd received. 00:19:29.056 --> 00:19:32.116 They're not even these. This isn't even the investigation into those tips. 00:19:32.296 --> 00:19:36.776 It's only we received this report from an anonymous source and no further information 00:19:36.776 --> 00:19:39.256 provided. So again, take it for what it's worth. 00:19:39.576 --> 00:19:42.356 Is it true? Well, I guess it could be, but it's probably not. 00:19:42.516 --> 00:19:45.376 And it will probably be eventually debunked so that they can go, 00:19:45.496 --> 00:19:46.576 see, look, it's all fake. 00:19:47.136 --> 00:19:53.276 So, you know, Russian girls and Bill Gates' Compromat and KGB and Putin influence 00:19:53.276 --> 00:19:57.016 gets seeded out there as the big story, right? 00:19:58.296 --> 00:20:07.016 Whereas in reality, yes, if Epstein had sources in or was part of another intelligence 00:20:07.016 --> 00:20:10.476 agency, it would not be the KGB would be our first suspect, right? 00:20:11.936 --> 00:20:14.536 Closer to reality, you could go to a source like the cradle.co, 00:20:14.676 --> 00:20:19.556 which points to an FBI memo that concludes Trump had been compromised by Israel. 00:20:19.896 --> 00:20:24.256 New Epstein file show. Yeah, surprise, surprise. And again, take this for what it's worth. 00:20:24.296 --> 00:20:28.836 It's coming from a confidential human source reporting to the Bureau. 00:20:29.036 --> 00:20:38.356 But this source had indicated that a Chabad Lubavitch, the Hasidic Judaic movement, 00:20:38.916 --> 00:20:44.216 had had compromised, was compromising the Trump 1.0 administration through Kushner, 00:20:44.576 --> 00:20:50.376 first and foremost, but was also saying that they believed that Epstein was a Mossad agent. 00:20:50.376 --> 00:20:53.516 And that lines up with a lot of things that we've known. 00:20:53.876 --> 00:20:58.856 If people want just the sort of visual shorthand for that, you can point to that description. 00:21:00.491 --> 00:21:05.251 Picture that's been circulating of Epstein on his private jet with the IDF, 00:21:05.251 --> 00:21:10.091 you know, T-shirt, whatever, like, you know, I'm a big Israel Defense Force supporter. 00:21:10.271 --> 00:21:14.971 But more more serious investigation, people should probably be checking out DropSite News, 00:21:15.111 --> 00:21:19.491 which has been breaking story after story after story about Epstein's links 00:21:19.491 --> 00:21:25.311 to Israel and Israeli intelligence and Israeli figures and Dershowitz and all of this. 00:21:25.311 --> 00:21:28.091 There's been a number of reports on 00:21:28.091 --> 00:21:31.951 this meeting with you know israeli ambassadors and obviously 00:21:31.951 --> 00:21:35.251 probably the most high profile israeli directly 00:21:35.251 --> 00:21:38.511 implicated in epstein was um ehud barak 00:21:38.511 --> 00:21:41.271 former israeli prime minister ehud barak who was not 00:21:41.271 --> 00:21:45.631 only in the black book and features prominently in a number of files but um 00:21:45.631 --> 00:21:53.151 i did read virginia roberts uh jufri's posthumous posthumously published by 00:21:53.151 --> 00:22:00.251 autobiography or memoir where she was talking about having been raped brutally. 00:22:00.271 --> 00:22:04.891 The most brutal rape that she had ever received was from the hands of this high 00:22:04.891 --> 00:22:06.831 ranking foreign person. 00:22:07.360 --> 00:22:10.080 Minister, I believe is, or no, what did she say? 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:15.640 So I was, I had both the audio book and I had an ebook of this and I was listening 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:17.440 to it and I was reading it and was doing both. 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:21.980 And interestingly, by the time the ebook had been converted into audio book, 00:22:22.120 --> 00:22:27.700 um, I believe he was being referred to as a high ranking minister or something like that. 00:22:27.820 --> 00:22:31.180 But then it became like government official or something like something even 00:22:31.180 --> 00:22:35.080 more vague, but it was clearly, she's clearly talking about Ehud Barak, 00:22:35.300 --> 00:22:39.460 but the publisher wasn't going to publish Ehud Barak because obviously that 00:22:39.460 --> 00:22:40.980 would leave them open to a lawsuit. 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.940 But, you know, and there was just something that I saw the other day and I'll have to dig this up. 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:52.360 But another from a different file that was just released, someone talking about 00:22:52.360 --> 00:22:56.820 Ehud Barak raping them to the point of disassociation and they, 00:22:56.960 --> 00:22:59.400 you know, were trying to commit suicide and stuff, whatever. 00:22:59.780 --> 00:23:02.660 So anyway, Epstein, very, very, very, 00:23:02.760 --> 00:23:05.960 very tied into Israel, which shouldn't be a surprise because again 00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:09.160 we know all of the various connections like for example 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:12.500 the most obvious one glenn whose father robert 00:23:12.500 --> 00:23:16.100 maxwell was obviously tied to israeli intelligence had 00:23:16.100 --> 00:23:19.740 a big you know israeli state-sponsored memorial service 00:23:19.740 --> 00:23:22.880 whatever after his odd death at 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:25.720 sea um you know he was he was 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:28.700 israel intelligence and then glenn maxwell ends 00:23:28.700 --> 00:23:32.120 up hooking up with epstein and the rest is history and 00:23:32.120 --> 00:23:34.940 now of course she's you know living it up at club fed 00:23:34.940 --> 00:23:38.000 getting transferred to lighter and lighter prisons because she's 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:42.140 willing to spill the beans on everybody except trump and never saw him complicated 00:23:42.140 --> 00:23:47.400 in anything and now trump is you know basically giving her the the light gloves 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:51.600 treatment which again makes sense and lines up with if the trump administration 00:23:51.600 --> 00:23:55.780 is compromised by israel and if epstein was essentially an israeli honey trap. 00:23:55.980 --> 00:24:00.240 Well, there we go. But don't worry, guys, the Daily Mail is going to tell you it was all the KGB. 00:24:02.292 --> 00:24:05.452 Yeah, that's something that's always fascinating and I think a little bit telling 00:24:05.452 --> 00:24:09.632 is somebody who, like Trump, who always tries to be the alpha male in the room. 00:24:10.692 --> 00:24:13.792 When BB's in the room, he's super polite. 00:24:14.192 --> 00:24:17.112 He, I mean, but the people pull out the chair for him. 00:24:17.232 --> 00:24:23.112 So it's like it almost, I shouldn't say it almost seems, it seems to be that 00:24:23.112 --> 00:24:25.512 he's got something on everybody. 00:24:25.712 --> 00:24:29.532 And it's incredible the pull that he has. I mean, the fake Trump, 00:24:29.732 --> 00:24:33.492 Charlie Kirk picture that went around with the Israeli flag. 00:24:33.532 --> 00:24:37.312 You probably didn't see that because you're not on X, but you're not missing 00:24:37.312 --> 00:24:38.772 a whole lot. It's a lot of nonsense. 00:24:39.492 --> 00:24:42.592 I know. That's why I'm not there. I'm not trying to make you feel like you're 00:24:42.592 --> 00:24:43.612 missing out because you're not. 00:24:44.132 --> 00:24:49.492 But the Trump administration tweeted out and it was a picture of Charlie and 00:24:49.492 --> 00:24:52.772 Trump like hugging with like the Israeli flag behind him. 00:24:52.812 --> 00:24:55.532 And then come to find out it was like a fake picture or at least it wasn't a 00:24:55.532 --> 00:24:59.432 fake picture. It was just somebody inputted the Israeli flag in the background. 00:24:59.672 --> 00:25:05.432 You've done this work for a long time and I've enjoyed your work and other people 00:25:05.432 --> 00:25:07.792 in this community's work for a long time. 00:25:08.072 --> 00:25:13.212 And something that I feel like I've kind of looked over, like maybe too much. 00:25:13.312 --> 00:25:17.432 And now I'm starting to rethink is the influence of Mossad. 00:25:17.612 --> 00:25:21.012 I always knew they had a lot of influence, right? You talk about 9-11 and you 00:25:21.012 --> 00:25:23.832 talk about the dancing Israelis and their links to Mossad. 00:25:23.952 --> 00:25:27.052 So many historical things. jfk's links to massad 00:25:27.052 --> 00:25:29.832 potentially like all these theories and there always seems to 00:25:29.832 --> 00:25:34.132 be massad somewhere in the story and there seems to be some hints that maybe 00:25:34.132 --> 00:25:37.592 they were involved in all these things all the assassinations right like in 00:25:37.592 --> 00:25:41.832 iran all the what is it a nuclear scientist that don't live till don't ever 00:25:41.832 --> 00:25:44.472 get to the age of 30 because they're all being assassinated and there's just 00:25:44.472 --> 00:25:48.832 a huge list of potential assassinations linked to massad. 00:25:49.464 --> 00:25:53.984 And then the Charlie Kirk thing happened and you start connecting the dots and 00:25:53.984 --> 00:25:57.584 you're like, wow, there's something really weird about BB coming out and, 00:25:57.584 --> 00:26:01.364 uh, and, you know, doing like a press tour after this. 00:26:01.364 --> 00:26:04.524 There's something really weird about like right before this with that whole 00:26:04.524 --> 00:26:10.084 Florida story where Charlie Kirk had Candace and Tucker come out and then all 00:26:10.084 --> 00:26:13.364 his funders threaten him and all this stuff. 00:26:13.464 --> 00:26:18.684 And then he's doing interviews on PBD podcasts on Megyn Kelly and all these 00:26:18.684 --> 00:26:22.564 and where he's questioning October 7th and which is a big no, 00:26:22.644 --> 00:26:24.144 no. You can't question October 7th. 00:26:24.224 --> 00:26:28.104 You know, false flags don't happen in Israel. Oh, he's questioning October. 00:26:28.264 --> 00:26:33.604 And he's doing all these things, knowing that a huge portion of his funding 00:26:33.604 --> 00:26:36.704 is coming from Zionists or people linked to Zionists. 00:26:37.084 --> 00:26:40.784 And then the Charlie Kirk thing happens, which was obvious cover up. 00:26:40.884 --> 00:26:44.764 I mean, anybody who believes the official story is a crazy person because there's no way. 00:26:45.184 --> 00:26:48.644 That can't be an entry wound and exit wound. I mean, none of it makes any sense. 00:26:48.744 --> 00:26:49.924 It's like, wait, he shot from where? 00:26:50.084 --> 00:26:52.824 But like, that doesn't, there's no way that can be an entry wound. 00:26:52.944 --> 00:26:56.364 Where's the exit wound? You know, so there's all these things that make no sense. 00:26:56.824 --> 00:27:00.584 And you're just like, did they just publicly assassinate somebody and send a 00:27:00.584 --> 00:27:02.424 message to anybody who questions them? 00:27:02.684 --> 00:27:05.924 I haven't heard you, and maybe you have, and my apologies if you have talked 00:27:05.924 --> 00:27:09.844 about it and I've missed it. I haven't heard you talk about the Charlie Kirk assassination. 00:27:10.504 --> 00:27:13.824 What's your thoughts on it? Do you think that Candace Owens is crazy? 00:27:14.004 --> 00:27:16.884 Or do you think that maybe you can, well, both can be true. You can think she's 00:27:16.884 --> 00:27:21.984 crazy and believe that she might be on to something. But what's your thoughts? 00:27:22.817 --> 00:27:28.857 No, I haven't really investigated the Kirk shooting at all. And I am not particularly inclined to. 00:27:28.977 --> 00:27:31.937 I don't know if I'm allowed to say this. I don't care. 00:27:32.177 --> 00:27:36.137 Am I allowed to say that? I really don't care. And the reason I say that is 00:27:36.137 --> 00:27:42.197 because it is a fact that I spent exactly zero minutes and zero seconds of my 00:27:42.197 --> 00:27:47.097 entire life ever listening to thinking about Charlie Kirk at all before he was killed. 00:27:47.617 --> 00:27:53.837 So it seems to me that it would be me being led along by the nose by the news 00:27:53.837 --> 00:27:58.997 cycle to then, OK, now that this person has died in this public way, 00:27:59.177 --> 00:28:02.037 now I'm going to start researching and devoting my life to him. 00:28:02.677 --> 00:28:06.157 Seems a bit odd. And I dislike the way that... 00:28:07.487 --> 00:28:11.147 At least for myself. I want to preserve my own cognitive territory. 00:28:11.547 --> 00:28:14.447 I didn't know Charlie Kirk from Adam before he was killed. 00:28:14.827 --> 00:28:18.567 Never spent a single second in my entire life ever listening to a single word 00:28:18.567 --> 00:28:21.647 he ever said. I'm not going to start now. I don't care. 00:28:23.007 --> 00:28:27.007 Having said that, I'm sure it's a fascinating story and I'm sure there's a million 00:28:27.007 --> 00:28:28.047 things to explore there. 00:28:28.187 --> 00:28:34.827 So go right at it. And I'm all in support of everyone out there who is trying to dig up information. 00:28:35.207 --> 00:28:38.827 The crazy people or not crazy people and everyone else as well. 00:28:38.967 --> 00:28:43.047 I think everyone who is interested in it should explore it to their heart's content. 00:28:43.327 --> 00:28:45.667 Let me know what you find. I might even care. 00:28:46.247 --> 00:28:51.147 But having said that, is it not a bit unusual that the prime minister of Israel 00:28:51.147 --> 00:28:56.387 felt it compelled enough to make multiple statements denying that he had anything to do with that? 00:28:56.647 --> 00:29:02.427 It's like that that is at the very least a sign of where the public perception 00:29:02.427 --> 00:29:05.587 of the prime minister of Israel is right now, that he would have to come out 00:29:05.587 --> 00:29:08.267 and say, you know, of course, this had nothing to do with me. 00:29:09.307 --> 00:29:13.527 Who would think to do that? I don't need to deny my involvement in the Charlie 00:29:13.527 --> 00:29:17.947 Kirk shooting because it wouldn't even occur to me to think that that had happened. 00:29:17.987 --> 00:29:22.167 But it occurred to enough people that at the very least, he felt compelled to make that statement. 00:29:22.947 --> 00:29:26.267 If you want to talk about the Israel-US relationship in general, 00:29:26.347 --> 00:29:32.467 though, I would say that a very obvious example of who is the alpha male in 00:29:32.467 --> 00:29:37.387 the room when it comes to Bibi and Don is remember last year when Netanyahu 00:29:37.387 --> 00:29:42.207 had a White House meeting with Trump and he gifted him the golden pager? 00:29:42.884 --> 00:29:48.104 And this was right after Operation Grim Beeper, where, of course, famously, 00:29:48.464 --> 00:29:55.964 the the Israeli intelligence had implanted all of these fake pagers in Hezbollah 00:29:55.964 --> 00:30:00.904 supply lines and detonated them all, killing all these bad guys and maybe a 00:30:00.904 --> 00:30:02.464 few civilians. Who cares? Whatever. 00:30:02.744 --> 00:30:07.104 It was all for the good. And oh, here's a golden pager for you, Mr. 00:30:07.224 --> 00:30:11.924 Trump. That, to me, is the biggest sign of anything that of who is controlling 00:30:11.924 --> 00:30:12.964 who in that relationship. 00:30:13.024 --> 00:30:16.884 As in, hey, we could kill you at any time, Mr. President. 00:30:17.584 --> 00:30:20.844 Anyway, I just thought that was a kind of funny and telling statement, 00:30:21.024 --> 00:30:26.884 perhaps more substantially the fact that Jared Kushner, obviously Trump's son-in-law, 00:30:27.344 --> 00:30:32.444 has literally lent his bed to Benjamin Netanyahu to sleep in before. 00:30:32.684 --> 00:30:36.564 And this was before, you know, before they were a political deal. 00:30:37.844 --> 00:30:42.204 And it just, again, goes to show the extent to which there is a relationship 00:30:42.204 --> 00:30:44.564 there. And I think we know who's in charge of that. 00:30:45.504 --> 00:30:49.284 Having said that, yes, Mossad, I'm sure, has all sorts of operations and all 00:30:49.284 --> 00:30:50.264 sorts of things that it's doing. 00:30:50.704 --> 00:30:54.504 Probably, from my perspective, more important going forward is Unit 8200, 00:30:54.964 --> 00:30:57.104 which is the Israeli military. 00:30:58.287 --> 00:31:02.847 Cyber Command, NSA, I don't know exactly what equivalent they would be in the U.S. 00:31:03.187 --> 00:31:09.387 System, but at any rate, the Internet slash 00:31:09.387 --> 00:31:17.407 high-tech version of the spy state that is responsible for seeding all of these 00:31:17.407 --> 00:31:23.367 various companies that go on to become private companies that you later on find 00:31:23.367 --> 00:31:26.347 out were all started by Unit 8200X members. 00:31:26.767 --> 00:31:29.507 And there's even you know i mean it's it's a thing that's 00:31:29.507 --> 00:31:32.307 been talked about and written about for years but it's still something that 00:31:32.307 --> 00:31:36.107 i think is under explored and um to 00:31:36.107 --> 00:31:38.967 me that's important because if anything i think 00:31:38.967 --> 00:31:41.587 i think whitney webb makes this point i won't put words in her 00:31:41.587 --> 00:31:44.887 mouth but i think this is a point that i think i really started to think about 00:31:44.887 --> 00:31:49.347 because of her and her reporting on epstein um whatever epstein was in terms 00:31:49.347 --> 00:31:57.247 of honeypot honey trap intelligence you know asset is less and less necessary 00:31:57.247 --> 00:32:00.087 as we move further and further into the 21st century, 00:32:00.087 --> 00:32:02.727 because these days the surveillance is already there. 00:32:02.967 --> 00:32:05.787 Everyone is already carrying surveillance around with them at all times. 00:32:06.067 --> 00:32:10.207 And everything that they do is being monitored and tracked and surveilled in various ways. 00:32:10.387 --> 00:32:14.707 And whatever evidence you need on someone who isn't involved in anything shady 00:32:14.707 --> 00:32:18.467 could be planted surrepetitiously through, you know, internet backdoors and 00:32:18.467 --> 00:32:24.267 what So it's becoming more and more and more about the technological side of the spycraft game. 00:32:24.447 --> 00:32:28.967 And on that front, Israel is already, I think, well ahead of most of its competition. 00:32:30.947 --> 00:32:34.027 Yeah. Yeah. Well, they definitely seem to be ahead. 00:32:34.207 --> 00:32:38.407 I, I, that story about the pager reminds me of the Epstein story with, 00:32:38.567 --> 00:32:42.307 uh, Bill Clinton painting that. 00:32:42.407 --> 00:32:43.667 And then the Bush painting. 00:32:43.787 --> 00:32:47.927 I mean, I almost feel like that was like a F you to who we think, 00:32:48.067 --> 00:32:51.407 you know, the average person is in power. It's almost like, yeah, exactly. 00:32:51.627 --> 00:32:55.567 I'm going to humiliate you and I'm going to, and I have so much power over you 00:32:55.567 --> 00:32:57.847 that you can't say anything about it. 00:32:58.007 --> 00:33:00.687 Yeah. yeah isn't that for people who haven't seen it 00:33:00.687 --> 00:33:03.827 you can google it it's literally epstein in monica's 00:33:03.827 --> 00:33:06.627 dress clinton in monica 00:33:06.627 --> 00:33:11.167 or that's what i meant yeah yeah uh clinton in monica's dress yes and then there's 00:33:11.167 --> 00:33:16.767 one of bush i believe with like paper airplanes and then twin towers yeah i 00:33:16.767 --> 00:33:20.827 don't i don't recall that one but yeah i think you're right yeah it's it's like 00:33:20.827 --> 00:33:23.967 there's things that just aren't It's unexplained. 00:33:24.067 --> 00:33:29.847 And one thing about our community that we do well is that we're not afraid to ask the question. 00:33:30.047 --> 00:33:32.567 We're not going to dismiss that as a silly. We're like, no, there's something 00:33:32.567 --> 00:33:35.467 there. Over and over again, they're like the Pizzagate thing, right? 00:33:35.927 --> 00:33:39.887 Now there's people who are recirculating the conversation about Pizzagate because 00:33:39.887 --> 00:33:44.707 now they're seeing emails that have code words in them, right? 00:33:44.887 --> 00:33:48.547 And people are like, oh, you know, yeah, like maybe there was something there. 00:33:48.647 --> 00:33:52.087 You guys dismissed it. But yeah, maybe these were code words for something else. 00:33:53.067 --> 00:33:59.387 Which I'm sure you've talked about Pizzagate in the past that's not out of the 00:33:59.387 --> 00:34:01.787 realm of possibility but I mean no no no, 00:34:02.635 --> 00:34:07.855 And to me, it's interesting to see the exact same people and the exact same 00:34:07.855 --> 00:34:11.155 parts of the web that would have even just a month ago dismissed, 00:34:11.515 --> 00:34:15.835 still have dismissed anything related to that as total conspiracy lunacy. 00:34:16.015 --> 00:34:20.155 And like the prime example of why we need to crack down and censor and stop 00:34:20.155 --> 00:34:22.695 people from talking online, et cetera, because the, you know, 00:34:22.835 --> 00:34:25.095 that crazy guy who went into Comet Pizza with a gun, 00:34:25.275 --> 00:34:29.875 you know, and that has been the shining example of the craziness of these crazy 00:34:29.875 --> 00:34:31.295 conspiracy theories for years now. 00:34:31.295 --> 00:34:35.255 So those exact same people are now the ones that are saying, 00:34:35.395 --> 00:34:37.195 well, you know, actually, it looks like there's something to it. 00:34:37.295 --> 00:34:42.475 And precisely because, of course, they think this this is points on their side 00:34:42.475 --> 00:34:45.715 of the political aisle, essentially, because they are the ones that are, 00:34:45.835 --> 00:34:49.655 again, excited about the anonymous sources reporting things about Trump. 00:34:50.055 --> 00:34:53.635 And they will take that as absolute gospel truth and et cetera. 00:34:53.835 --> 00:34:58.555 So there's political points to be scored. So I think people are willing to open 00:34:58.555 --> 00:35:01.835 the door on that conversation. But they still, of course, point to the craziness 00:35:01.835 --> 00:35:04.655 of the crazy people who thought there was a basement at Comet Pizza, etc. 00:35:05.735 --> 00:35:10.495 I'm sure you know about this, but for people who don't, there was a lot more 00:35:10.495 --> 00:35:15.595 to that Pizzagate story than came out in sort of the general popular discourse. 00:35:15.815 --> 00:35:20.795 There was a lot of crazy stuff tied in with Elephantus and the weird, 00:35:20.795 --> 00:35:26.335 you know, like Instagram posts and pictures and relations to various performance 00:35:26.335 --> 00:35:29.855 art acts and other things that were taking place at Comet Pizza. and all of that. 00:35:29.955 --> 00:35:34.755 I mean, just stuff that absolutely there was creepy and weird stuff. 00:35:34.875 --> 00:35:37.855 And oh, maybe they were just edgy humor or something. 00:35:38.015 --> 00:35:40.595 But no, it really where there's smoke, there's fire. 00:35:41.035 --> 00:35:45.315 Anyway, even beyond that, at the very least, yeah, the very same people who 00:35:45.315 --> 00:35:48.115 were dismissing that go, well, maybe it wasn't happening at Common Pizza. 00:35:48.135 --> 00:35:49.275 It was happening on the island. 00:35:49.515 --> 00:35:53.175 Well, OK, at least at least the conversation has been broached now and people 00:35:53.175 --> 00:35:56.715 understand that this this type of stuff was really taking place. 00:35:58.485 --> 00:36:02.745 The thing that Candace says all the time, and it's funny because she just says 00:36:02.745 --> 00:36:07.605 what I've been saying to myself forever, because every time you go down a rabbit 00:36:07.605 --> 00:36:11.345 hole, it seems like the top of the pyramid is always pedophiles. 00:36:12.005 --> 00:36:14.665 People laugh about conspiracy theories. We talk about, like. 00:36:15.545 --> 00:36:19.345 Sacrificing children and all this stuff. I'm like, it's not that hard to believe. 00:36:19.525 --> 00:36:24.065 Just look at everywhere. where you dig deep enough in any industry, 00:36:24.345 --> 00:36:29.705 any weird upper class of people, there's always pedophilia. 00:36:29.945 --> 00:36:33.265 And I had, and Candace talks about his book a lot, Jeffrey, I forget what his 00:36:33.265 --> 00:36:37.925 name is. I feel bad not knowing his name, but he wrote the book, The Salt on Truth. 00:36:38.565 --> 00:36:43.105 Amazing book, The Salt on Truth. He was a psychologist and worked with Sigmund 00:36:43.105 --> 00:36:46.585 Freud's daughter at the archives, right? 00:36:46.725 --> 00:36:52.345 And then he finds this unpublished work and his unpublished work, 00:36:53.105 --> 00:36:57.145 exposes the fact that one of his theories, and I forget what the theory was, 00:36:57.365 --> 00:37:03.325 this theory that children were having these night terrors were actually, 00:37:04.185 --> 00:37:07.085 used to cover up the fact that these children that 00:37:07.085 --> 00:37:13.145 he was dealing with were being molested and he basically covered it up and he 00:37:13.145 --> 00:37:16.625 came up with this whole other theory that it was in their imagination because 00:37:16.625 --> 00:37:21.605 he didn't want to expose the elites and his friends in the industry and the 00:37:21.605 --> 00:37:24.425 community that he was a part of for being monsters. 00:37:24.785 --> 00:37:28.885 Jeffrey tells Sigmund Freud's daughter, Anna... 00:37:30.002 --> 00:37:35.302 He convinces her to publish it. And so he writes his book, The Assault on Truth, 00:37:35.622 --> 00:37:38.682 and his whole career is ruined. Everybody turns on him. 00:37:38.842 --> 00:37:44.482 He ends up writing books about pets and animals because he had to just get away from everything. 00:37:44.882 --> 00:37:49.962 Basically, it kind of shined a negative light on somebody who was put on this 00:37:49.962 --> 00:37:54.462 pedestal of this great thinker and person who created all these great ideas 00:37:54.462 --> 00:37:55.702 and theories and whatnot. 00:37:56.042 --> 00:37:58.722 But it's very fascinating. if you uh what's the 00:37:58.722 --> 00:38:01.982 title again the salt on truth the assault like 00:38:01.982 --> 00:38:05.062 assault rifle assault on truth okay yeah the immigrant in 00:38:05.062 --> 00:38:08.182 me comes out sometimes sorry uh the the 00:38:08.182 --> 00:38:12.382 salt on on truth and it's it's very fascinating i'm actually kind of surprised 00:38:12.382 --> 00:38:16.382 you haven't heard of it but honestly like i would hear it from time to time 00:38:16.382 --> 00:38:20.082 never really understood the importance of it and then it was candace who kept 00:38:20.082 --> 00:38:23.602 talking about it kind of made me look into it a little bit more and then And 00:38:23.602 --> 00:38:26.162 eventually I'm like, why hasn't somebody interviewed this guy? 00:38:26.322 --> 00:38:30.482 So podcasting for a long time, you get creative on ways to get ahold of people 00:38:30.482 --> 00:38:34.082 and eventually got ahold of them, had them on, told his story. 00:38:34.522 --> 00:38:38.262 And, and it's, it's incredibly fascinating because it's like a kind of, 00:38:38.442 --> 00:38:41.122 you know, exposed Sigmund Freud as a monster. 00:38:41.382 --> 00:38:44.222 And have you heard any of this before? 00:38:46.332 --> 00:38:49.292 Absolutely news to me so yeah once again 00:38:49.292 --> 00:38:52.112 everyone thinks that i've seen everything but i have not 00:38:52.112 --> 00:38:54.952 but i will check that 00:38:54.952 --> 00:38:58.052 out yeah so this is this is actually uh 00:38:58.052 --> 00:39:01.392 the podcast so it's a 5 30 and that's 00:39:01.392 --> 00:39:04.812 what the cover looks like i thought i had a um clip 00:39:04.812 --> 00:39:07.812 that would come i there's a clip from it too but it's really yeah 00:39:07.812 --> 00:39:10.512 dark science sexual abuse and yeah it's it's a it's a 00:39:10.512 --> 00:39:13.432 fascinating fascinating you know 00:39:13.432 --> 00:39:17.792 read and i will check that out much like 00:39:17.792 --> 00:39:22.112 what we constantly learn much of history is uh bullshit do your own research 00:39:22.112 --> 00:39:25.792 yeah i mean the fact that uh there's more to the freud story than we were told 00:39:25.792 --> 00:39:28.932 in the public is not surprising to me in the least but i would be interested 00:39:28.932 --> 00:39:34.932 to see specifically um what has been included um but yeah i mean that the just, 00:39:35.552 --> 00:39:42.832 So just from the most rational sort of a priori, without even getting into any of the specifics, 00:39:43.252 --> 00:39:48.732 it makes sense that anyone who wants to operate some sort of deep state, 00:39:49.032 --> 00:39:52.572 some sort of behind the scenes power behind the throne would use. 00:39:53.552 --> 00:39:57.452 Compromat, if we're going to it's all KGB, I tell you, but would use, 00:39:57.452 --> 00:40:01.672 you know, dirt on people to control them. That makes perfect sense. 00:40:01.672 --> 00:40:05.632 If you're going to be dark and manipulative, you find the blackmailable stuff 00:40:05.632 --> 00:40:07.672 and you use that to control various people, right? 00:40:08.192 --> 00:40:14.252 And what could be more blackmailable? I mean, you could be all sorts of depraved 00:40:14.252 --> 00:40:16.872 and that could ruin your life and reputation. 00:40:16.872 --> 00:40:22.812 But there could be nothing that any, really any society through or many societies 00:40:22.812 --> 00:40:25.012 throughout human history would ever condone is... 00:40:26.312 --> 00:40:29.732 Child, uh, assault or murder, right? 00:40:30.072 --> 00:40:33.452 So if you can get people involved in that, that would be the ultimate dirty 00:40:33.452 --> 00:40:38.592 material, which is exactly why you would expect that when you do start digging 00:40:38.592 --> 00:40:41.812 to the bottom of the deep state, you tend to find these types of things. 00:40:41.872 --> 00:40:46.732 And that, um, I mean, a much lesser example, but one that operates on the same 00:40:46.732 --> 00:40:48.572 principle is about skull and bones. 00:40:48.612 --> 00:40:52.472 And we have all heard that, you know, part of the initiation ritual is to get 00:40:52.472 --> 00:40:57.992 into the coffin and to lay there masturbating while you tell your darkest sexual secrets in history. 00:40:58.732 --> 00:41:02.172 And to all your, you know, fellow, they used to be brothers under the skin, 00:41:02.332 --> 00:41:05.152 but now they let women in there, so I don't know if this ritual has changed 00:41:05.152 --> 00:41:06.432 or what have you, but anyway. 00:41:07.812 --> 00:41:10.812 Anyway, they used to be brothers under the skin because they had all gone through 00:41:10.812 --> 00:41:12.852 this. So think about, you know, George W. 00:41:13.012 --> 00:41:17.152 Bush and George H. W. Bush and John Kerry all have laid in the coffin doing this. 00:41:17.292 --> 00:41:20.312 I mean, that's kind of crazy, don't you think? 00:41:20.332 --> 00:41:23.132 But hey, this is this is the way power operates because 00:41:23.132 --> 00:41:26.752 then they all know each other's darkest secrets 00:41:26.752 --> 00:41:29.632 and all of that and they all have dirt on each other and then they all help 00:41:29.632 --> 00:41:32.852 each other out for the rest of their lives to make sure they all get ahead in 00:41:32.852 --> 00:41:36.592 accordance with the master plan and so again it shouldn't be a surprise that 00:41:36.592 --> 00:41:41.092 when we dig to the bottom of the yeah we always talk about going up the power 00:41:41.092 --> 00:41:44.112 pyramid but it should really be about digging down to the bottom the depths 00:41:44.112 --> 00:41:48.192 of the deep state and when you get there you find the most grizzliest stuff. 00:41:49.376 --> 00:41:53.616 Yeah, it's weird. And it's so acceptable. Like there was that Canadian fashion 00:41:53.616 --> 00:41:57.636 designer, nine guard, maybe he was like a part of some big, I think his name 00:41:57.636 --> 00:42:01.356 was nine guard, but big Canadian fashion designer, big in the fashion world. 00:42:01.496 --> 00:42:03.456 I just happened to run into a documentary about it. 00:42:03.816 --> 00:42:07.756 And when I've heard about a lot of sex trafficking and, but, 00:42:07.756 --> 00:42:09.816 but I'm like, Oh, this is a new one. I haven't heard yet. 00:42:10.236 --> 00:42:13.096 And, uh, and there, but there's, they're everywhere. Like even in Portugal, 00:42:13.096 --> 00:42:16.096 in my country, there was a big Casapia scandal. 00:42:16.576 --> 00:42:19.656 Casapia was a orphanage, very similar to what happened 00:42:19.656 --> 00:42:22.816 with the franklin scandal in boise town it was an orphanage 00:42:22.816 --> 00:42:26.396 and then there's actually still a soccer club called kazapia 00:42:26.396 --> 00:42:29.576 it's in the first division it's actually quite popular and a lot of people don't 00:42:29.576 --> 00:42:32.736 in america at least don't know about the scandal you tell people like you know 00:42:32.736 --> 00:42:35.796 about the scandal linked to that orphanage that started that soccer club and 00:42:35.796 --> 00:42:39.876 you're like no and it's like all the highest politicians were linked to it everybody 00:42:39.876 --> 00:42:43.656 in media and it's like this the beast of belgium right that's another story 00:42:43.656 --> 00:42:46.356 there's like endless amounts of this. 00:42:46.856 --> 00:42:49.436 And then it's like, and then the conversation always leads to, 00:42:49.536 --> 00:42:53.736 or at least in my head, it's like, okay, is this just a way of power and control 00:42:53.736 --> 00:42:56.576 in regards to like what you were mentioning? Is it blackmail? 00:42:56.736 --> 00:43:02.296 Is it like a way of just controlling other elites so then you can have control? Or is it a. 00:43:03.554 --> 00:43:06.294 Uh actual what's the word i'm looking for 00:43:06.294 --> 00:43:09.814 a factuation with these things and 00:43:09.814 --> 00:43:14.314 then they just also use it as blackmail yeah i 00:43:14.314 --> 00:43:18.014 mean it very well could be a mixture i can't speak to this because i'm not part 00:43:18.014 --> 00:43:22.554 of that club thankfully so i don't know um but it makes sense either way and 00:43:22.554 --> 00:43:26.634 so yeah i'm just saying like from the rational perspective if you're just thinking 00:43:26.634 --> 00:43:30.454 about it on the sort of the surface level it makes sense if you want to manipulate 00:43:30.454 --> 00:43:32.074 people you find dirt on them, right? 00:43:32.334 --> 00:43:35.934 But yeah, the deeper question, you know, to what extent do they actually believe 00:43:35.934 --> 00:43:42.694 in this and whatever magic, occult rituals and blood, adrenochrome power, 00:43:43.054 --> 00:43:44.334 whatever, all that kind of stuff. 00:43:44.594 --> 00:43:50.734 Again, I do not know about that at a sort of at the experiential level so I can't speak to it, 00:43:50.814 --> 00:43:56.574 but I would imagine that there are people in this power hierarchy who genuinely 00:43:56.574 --> 00:44:00.814 do believe in this stuff and genuinely do believe in the dark power they're getting, whatever. 00:44:02.434 --> 00:44:05.354 But it's that's the kind of stuff i don't know i don't know what to say i can 00:44:05.354 --> 00:44:09.554 only speculate yeah it reminds me of something that epstein said in the video 00:44:09.554 --> 00:44:12.714 about he said something about the soul i don't know if you remember him talking 00:44:12.714 --> 00:44:17.574 about that but he said he's he's certain that there's a soul right so then it 00:44:17.574 --> 00:44:21.454 does lead you to think that maybe he is a true believer of like, 00:44:22.034 --> 00:44:26.134 whatever they're doing is some sacrifice spiritual 00:44:26.134 --> 00:44:29.314 ritual thing that might 00:44:29.314 --> 00:44:32.494 be more than just hey here's a way of controlling somebody by humiliating 00:44:32.494 --> 00:44:35.394 them or getting them to do something illegal and now we control 00:44:35.394 --> 00:44:38.234 them yeah could be it could there could be a lot of different 00:44:38.234 --> 00:44:41.194 ways that that could play in i mean he could genuinely believe in souls but 00:44:41.194 --> 00:44:44.114 believe that there's a hierarchy of souls and or that there are some people 00:44:44.114 --> 00:44:47.134 who have souls and then there are the npcs that don't count that you can manipulate 00:44:47.134 --> 00:44:52.074 etc etc which would play into various eugenical assumptions then again it could 00:44:52.074 --> 00:44:57.914 all be the pr effort of well i know that the people want to hear this so i'll say it as opposed to a uh. 00:44:59.341 --> 00:45:02.621 Uh homo deus what's that guy's name thankfully i 00:45:02.621 --> 00:45:08.241 forget off the top of my head you know who i'm talking about uh the 00:45:08.241 --> 00:45:11.341 israeli world economic forum guy who's always talking about 00:45:11.341 --> 00:45:14.121 transhumanism and people have 00:45:14.121 --> 00:45:17.221 no souls harari yeah yes yes 00:45:17.221 --> 00:45:20.621 no no no no no harari 00:45:20.621 --> 00:45:23.981 whatever anyway i'm glad that 00:45:23.981 --> 00:45:26.681 i had that brain fart because i don't want to think 00:45:26.681 --> 00:45:30.181 about that guy you will know or yeah but exactly he 00:45:30.181 --> 00:45:33.141 comes out and says all that stuff like oh there are no souls 00:45:33.141 --> 00:45:36.041 and we're just mechanical animals and everything and everyone sees him for what 00:45:36.041 --> 00:45:41.061 he is but epstein sitting there in the pr interview is gonna say yes of course 00:45:41.061 --> 00:45:46.401 we all know we have souls well but yeah peter but it kind of i've heard peter 00:45:46.401 --> 00:45:51.201 teal talk about the devil and and stuff like that and it does seem like there. 00:45:51.961 --> 00:45:55.441 There's something to them thinking they're 00:45:55.441 --> 00:45:58.301 tapping in like you know of course since the 00:45:58.301 --> 00:46:02.021 beginning of time there's always been elites that feel like they deserve to 00:46:02.021 --> 00:46:06.061 influence society they deserve to control society they deserve to to know the 00:46:06.061 --> 00:46:09.741 deepest secrets of society and the rest of us are just peasants who who you 00:46:09.741 --> 00:46:13.441 know how they we don't deserve to know how reality works you know and that's 00:46:13.441 --> 00:46:17.001 what i find so fascinating about like the telepathy tapes and all these other 00:46:17.001 --> 00:46:19.661 things I've had Rupert Sheldrick on in the past. 00:46:19.821 --> 00:46:23.741 I've had the doctor from the telepathy tapes, Dr. Diane Hennessy-Powell, 00:46:23.821 --> 00:46:29.041 who her life's work was on the savant syndrome and non-verbal autistic kids 00:46:29.041 --> 00:46:30.481 and how they're communicating with their parents. 00:46:30.661 --> 00:46:35.241 So it's like, it all seems like, okay, there's secrets to the universe. 00:46:36.485 --> 00:46:39.225 That we don't quite know yet or they've been 00:46:39.225 --> 00:46:42.165 suppressed or we're rediscovering them 00:46:42.165 --> 00:46:45.205 but it also seems like maybe 00:46:45.205 --> 00:46:48.065 those powers that shouldn't be as as 00:46:48.065 --> 00:46:53.525 you say could be potentially hiding that from us to make us feel like just meaningless 00:46:53.525 --> 00:46:57.405 people that's why the flat earth debate as silly as it was i'm like i kind of 00:46:57.405 --> 00:47:01.865 get it like i get why they have this perspective of like oh yeah yeah the elites 00:47:01.865 --> 00:47:06.065 want you to think you're insignificant i'm like i get that i get Like, yeah, we're, 00:47:06.605 --> 00:47:09.345 you know, I'm like, I could see that perspective where they kind of linked it 00:47:09.345 --> 00:47:11.645 to spirituality and the worldview. 00:47:12.065 --> 00:47:17.145 So it is fascinating. I mean, do you do you spend any time thinking about those 00:47:17.145 --> 00:47:21.025 things in regards to these other understanding of the universe and that these 00:47:21.025 --> 00:47:23.465 maybe suppress secrets to the public? 00:47:24.225 --> 00:47:29.905 Right. Yes. Yes, I do. And I think that they are used manipulatively and obviously 00:47:29.905 --> 00:47:36.045 in knowing and conscious ways by people who want to more effectively control and other people. 00:47:36.205 --> 00:47:40.145 And I tend to think a lot of it is just rationalization for what people want 00:47:40.145 --> 00:47:42.565 to do, which is assert power and dominance over other people. 00:47:42.645 --> 00:47:44.325 And they find elaborate ways to do so. 00:47:44.785 --> 00:47:48.445 But I just came across one that was incredibly... 00:47:50.115 --> 00:47:54.255 Fascinating, interesting, thought-provoking, compelling, disturbing, 00:47:54.595 --> 00:47:56.375 etc. in various measures. 00:47:56.715 --> 00:48:01.375 I am reading The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky for the first time. 00:48:01.695 --> 00:48:05.755 And I just got to the chapter on the Grand Inquisitor. 00:48:06.155 --> 00:48:11.295 And this is like a story within a story. So I guess you could probably just read this by itself. 00:48:11.575 --> 00:48:16.155 And perhaps I will exhort people to do that. Although I'm going to finish the 00:48:16.155 --> 00:48:17.335 entire novel and let you know. 00:48:17.535 --> 00:48:25.355 But it's essentially the story of Jesus returns and meets with the Grand Inquisitor 00:48:25.355 --> 00:48:26.535 of the Spanish Inquisition. 00:48:27.195 --> 00:48:32.615 And the Grand Inquisitor lays out what has been done in Jesus' absence of the 00:48:32.615 --> 00:48:34.615 last 16 centuries at that point. 00:48:34.975 --> 00:48:41.455 And, you know, the people who have taken over and are now in charge and how they are not, 00:48:41.575 --> 00:48:45.355 they're going to kill Jesus again because they don't need him because he's going 00:48:45.355 --> 00:48:48.755 to spoil their perfect plan that they've created on the back of the thing that 00:48:48.755 --> 00:48:50.895 Jesus started, but it's now become this thing. 00:48:51.075 --> 00:48:54.415 And it's essentially all about how to get people to throw away. 00:48:54.535 --> 00:48:59.015 They will want to throw away their freedom to be controlled by these people 00:48:59.015 --> 00:49:01.755 in the name of, you know, Jesus and whatever. 00:49:01.895 --> 00:49:05.775 But it's not about that at all. It's about this manipulation and power game 00:49:05.775 --> 00:49:09.755 that has been woven around people over the past several centuries. 00:49:09.795 --> 00:49:12.755 And it's a fascinating and compelling little story. 00:49:12.795 --> 00:49:17.615 So I will just throw that out for people who want to think about this from the 00:49:17.615 --> 00:49:21.855 perspective of people who are in those positions of power, who do genuinely 00:49:21.855 --> 00:49:25.795 think that they deserve to rule over others and that it's good for the people 00:49:25.795 --> 00:49:26.635 that they are ruling over. 00:49:26.835 --> 00:49:29.695 I mean, they may not understand that. We'll never come out and say this, 00:49:29.835 --> 00:49:32.835 but this is what we are doing and they love us for it. 00:49:33.155 --> 00:49:39.055 And, you know, it's hard to argue against that because it seems in my nearly 00:49:39.055 --> 00:49:44.075 20 years of doing this now, there is nothing that I have advocated for that 00:49:44.075 --> 00:49:45.615 is more controversial than freedom. 00:49:47.027 --> 00:49:51.027 I believe humans should be free. I believe we are created free and equal human 00:49:51.027 --> 00:49:53.787 beings that all deserve the right of sovereignty. 00:49:53.947 --> 00:49:59.367 We are sovereign beings created as such and that nothing can abrogate that. 00:49:59.647 --> 00:50:04.467 But there is no message that I have ever stated that gets more pushback than that. 00:50:04.767 --> 00:50:08.847 No, no, no, no, no, of course not. No, well, yeah, but no, but we need to have 00:50:08.847 --> 00:50:12.067 these people in charge and we need to have certain power structures and we need 00:50:12.067 --> 00:50:14.707 to have this and we need to, you can't be totally free and blah, 00:50:14.807 --> 00:50:15.587 blah, blah. And there's all these, 00:50:16.482 --> 00:50:20.222 things that people put on top of that. They hate the idea of freedom. 00:50:20.322 --> 00:50:24.682 And if people read the Grand Inquisitor, you'll know which side of this argument 00:50:24.682 --> 00:50:26.402 you're on and which side I am not on. 00:50:27.162 --> 00:50:31.082 So even your audience pushes back against that? Oh, yeah, absolutely. 00:50:31.302 --> 00:50:35.682 Yeah. I would say there's probably maybe one percent, maybe less of my audience 00:50:35.682 --> 00:50:38.882 that truly actually believes in voluntarism and freedom. 00:50:39.402 --> 00:50:42.782 And everyone else thinks we just need to get the right people in power. 00:50:42.782 --> 00:50:44.422 We just need to vote harder, guys. 00:50:45.662 --> 00:50:48.762 It's baffling to me. It's absolutely, completely baffling to me. 00:50:49.342 --> 00:50:53.262 At any rate, it's baffling to me that these people continue to come back to the corbett report. 00:50:53.422 --> 00:50:56.682 I don't know what you think I'm advocating for. I am not advocating for a better, 00:50:56.942 --> 00:50:58.962 more efficient government or a better leader. 00:50:59.262 --> 00:51:02.582 We just need to elect some sort of better, you know, hopium. 00:51:02.942 --> 00:51:07.602 No, that's exactly explicitly what I am against. But I get very, 00:51:07.762 --> 00:51:10.922 very, very little feedback from people who agree with that. And this brings 00:51:10.922 --> 00:51:15.542 me back to the Jeffrey Epstein systems conversation, because that's exactly what they do. 00:51:15.842 --> 00:51:22.382 They they convince you that the system's too complex for you to understand it. So trust in others. 00:51:23.042 --> 00:51:25.902 Don't trust in your gut. Don't you know. Yeah, exactly. 00:51:26.102 --> 00:51:29.182 Yeah, that's a good point that he makes, again, about the banking system, 00:51:29.522 --> 00:51:31.982 that the financial system, it's a lot of jargon. 00:51:32.042 --> 00:51:36.362 And it sounds very complex. And it's designed to turn people off and make them 00:51:36.362 --> 00:51:39.602 think that there's some kind of high level math stuff that's going on that they 00:51:39.602 --> 00:51:40.702 couldn't possibly understand. 00:51:40.702 --> 00:51:44.062 And he says, no, it's all pretty straightforward. It's just a lot of jargon 00:51:44.062 --> 00:51:47.782 that's designed to make you essentially walk away. 00:51:47.902 --> 00:51:50.962 They don't want people to think about it. Because if people knew how the banking 00:51:50.962 --> 00:51:51.982 system really operated, 00:51:52.462 --> 00:51:55.262 there would be a revolution overnight where have i heard that before it's been 00:51:55.262 --> 00:51:58.482 said before but there you go you have epstein on tape saying it and he's right 00:51:58.482 --> 00:52:03.122 you know what he's right about that it isn't this incredibly difficult to understand 00:52:03.122 --> 00:52:09.042 stuff it is simple trickery that is being used and um unfortunately most people. 00:52:10.334 --> 00:52:13.634 They would, if it's presented to them in that way, they'll say, 00:52:13.714 --> 00:52:14.694 of course, I'm against that. 00:52:15.014 --> 00:52:20.874 But they aren't really. They want to give away their sovereignty to other people 00:52:20.874 --> 00:52:24.894 to let them worry about it, because that's a lot of work. It's a lot of, I don't want to do that. 00:52:25.114 --> 00:52:28.054 Just tell me how to live my life. Just tell me where to go to sign up for my 00:52:28.054 --> 00:52:32.934 digital ID and get my face scanned and get my free money from government and whatever. 00:52:33.214 --> 00:52:36.914 And just let me live like a slave and I'll be happy. And unfortunately, 00:52:36.914 --> 00:52:37.914 a lot of people are like that. 00:52:39.414 --> 00:52:42.454 Yeah i i think that's uh the reason why the legal system 00:52:42.454 --> 00:52:45.074 is so complex for the reason that's like oh you always need 00:52:45.074 --> 00:52:47.954 a lawyer because it's too complex i don't get it right i know a guy 00:52:47.954 --> 00:52:50.774 a police officer he had a claim after retired 00:52:50.774 --> 00:52:54.094 that he was racially he was actually the first i think black police officer 00:52:54.094 --> 00:52:57.974 on the force and he was racially not he thinks for racial reasons where it's 00:52:57.974 --> 00:53:02.854 not treated very well but he couldn't afford a lawyer after he retired he wanted 00:53:02.854 --> 00:53:05.914 to write a book or whatever about this whole thing and then he's like you know 00:53:05.914 --> 00:53:08.034 let me try to file this stuff on my own he's like I'm retired. 00:53:08.174 --> 00:53:09.214 I got plenty of time on my hands. 00:53:09.414 --> 00:53:13.974 And then he would work details sometimes. So I would see him because we do some road construction. 00:53:14.394 --> 00:53:18.934 And he would tell me, he's like, you don't understand the things you pay a lawyer to do. 00:53:19.114 --> 00:53:23.814 He's like, once you realize the scam, the thing that you're paying hundreds 00:53:23.814 --> 00:53:27.634 of dollars to fill out some form that you can figure out how to fill out. 00:53:27.734 --> 00:53:31.634 And he was like, just going on and off, on and on about all these experiences 00:53:31.634 --> 00:53:35.054 with like, you know, these things that lawyers charge you for that he learned 00:53:35.054 --> 00:53:37.114 how to do. And he's like, the whole thing's a racket. 00:53:37.314 --> 00:53:41.294 And I'm like, yeah, it probably is. But that's, again, goes back to keeping 00:53:41.294 --> 00:53:45.314 systems complex. So we always need somebody else. Right. 00:53:45.474 --> 00:53:50.714 And I know you're probably got to go soon because your schedule is always so tight, which is good. 00:53:50.734 --> 00:53:53.494 It means you're, you're constantly busy for good reasons. And, 00:53:53.614 --> 00:53:55.254 but so for, for people listening. 00:53:56.003 --> 00:53:58.503 Who want to keep up with your work, you are back on YouTube. 00:53:58.523 --> 00:54:01.243 Thanks to the last time we talked. I'm just kidding. I don't know. 00:54:01.483 --> 00:54:03.603 I'm glad you are. No, honestly. Yes. 00:54:03.903 --> 00:54:06.943 Honestly, it is because the last time we talked, it was you who said, 00:54:07.403 --> 00:54:09.923 oh, by the way, you know, they just put me on that. That was the thing that 00:54:09.923 --> 00:54:11.683 made me say, well, I'll try it. And I did. 00:54:11.863 --> 00:54:16.743 And so, you know, I guess I either have you to thank or to blame for that. I'm back on YouTube. 00:54:17.243 --> 00:54:23.383 But either way, it's all credit to you. And so for people who want to keep up with your work, 00:54:23.583 --> 00:54:27.203 I'm sure you're going to say corbettereport.com no hit 00:54:27.203 --> 00:54:30.423 like and subscribe on my youtube channel guys that'll 00:54:30.423 --> 00:54:33.543 do it no you mean smash the like button smash like 00:54:33.543 --> 00:54:39.963 sorry uh sorry i don't know the lingo these days hit the whistle thing on the 00:54:39.963 --> 00:54:45.623 make this thing spin around and and i've hit a bell and something rings i don't 00:54:45.623 --> 00:54:50.983 know do it do it now yeah go to corbettereport.com guys um that's where my work is. 00:54:51.103 --> 00:54:55.643 I just, in fact, yeah, I do have an email list that is run by Substack, 00:54:55.703 --> 00:54:58.323 which up until this point has worked fairly well. 00:54:58.423 --> 00:55:01.483 But now people in Australia and the UK are apparently going to have to do their 00:55:01.483 --> 00:55:05.703 whatever digital scans or ID or whatever it is to use Substack. 00:55:06.243 --> 00:55:10.703 Yay, wonderful. So they're undermining another platform. But I did get an email 00:55:10.703 --> 00:55:13.983 from someone who says, well, I'm not going to give them my ID or whatever it 00:55:13.983 --> 00:55:18.023 is I got to do to be on Substack anymore. Is there anywhere else I can get your work? 00:55:18.263 --> 00:55:21.863 I said, well, yeah, I have this website called CorbettReport.com. 00:55:21.943 --> 00:55:26.823 You may have heard of everything I do and everything I post is there. 00:55:26.943 --> 00:55:30.983 So yes, you can just go there and you can find anything that I ever do. 00:55:32.643 --> 00:55:35.823 Having said that, I am on Substack. I'm on YouTube. I'm on BitChute. 00:55:35.863 --> 00:55:36.983 I'm on Odyssey. I'm on Rumble. 00:55:37.143 --> 00:55:40.843 I'm no longer on Rockfin because I guess they don't like people like me. I don't know. Whatever. 00:55:42.343 --> 00:55:44.923 I don't even think they're... Are they still even... 00:55:46.010 --> 00:55:50.450 A thing i feel like i don't know to be honest i never even noticed that they 00:55:50.450 --> 00:55:55.850 existed i just had a channel there so fair enough i don't know i i never actually 00:55:55.850 --> 00:55:59.930 look at rockfin um but i'm on a lot of platforms but the best place is corbett 00:55:59.930 --> 00:56:04.010 report.com and i will make the plea for the million million millionth time and 00:56:04.010 --> 00:56:05.390 probably million million million more. 00:56:06.330 --> 00:56:09.190 People please learn how to use rss and follow 00:56:09.190 --> 00:56:12.330 via rss you do not need a middleman you 00:56:12.330 --> 00:56:15.610 do not need a youtube or a substack or a tiktok 00:56:15.610 --> 00:56:18.350 or a twitter or an instagram or anything else in order to 00:56:18.350 --> 00:56:21.410 follow me directly follow my rss 00:56:21.410 --> 00:56:24.370 feed it's directly from my server to your rss 00:56:24.370 --> 00:56:27.110 reader no metal man in between that can 00:56:27.110 --> 00:56:29.890 ever come in and unsubscribe you or any of that 00:56:29.890 --> 00:56:32.690 algorithmic manipulation no you can just get a feed of 00:56:32.690 --> 00:56:35.750 myself and whoever else you want to follow and just all 00:56:35.750 --> 00:56:39.270 the posts from you know in chronological order imagine that 00:56:39.270 --> 00:56:42.190 but no everyone wants to be on social media these 00:56:42.190 --> 00:56:45.030 days is there an app that you recommend for people to do that with 00:56:45.030 --> 00:56:48.310 i do not yet but 00:56:48.310 --> 00:56:51.430 i do know um gabriel from libra solutions network 00:56:51.430 --> 00:56:54.290 has been working on an rss reader and i'm 00:56:54.290 --> 00:56:57.750 going to be interested to see his development on that and i might promote that 00:56:57.750 --> 00:57:01.710 specifically if and when he finishes that up but at the moment i would just 00:57:01.710 --> 00:57:04.970 say you know you use whatever works for you i mean literally there's a million 00:57:04.970 --> 00:57:08.170 different readers and if you are a coder you could code your own it's an open 00:57:08.170 --> 00:57:11.550 source thing you could make your own rss reader if you were so inclined. 00:57:11.910 --> 00:57:16.010 But anyway, just experiment. Find what works for you and in your workflow. 00:57:16.798 --> 00:57:21.758 Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, you don't need a middleman. And getting the content 00:57:21.758 --> 00:57:25.838 directly from the person is the only way to guarantee that you're getting all 00:57:25.838 --> 00:57:27.958 the content and nothing's being censored or suppressed. 00:57:28.118 --> 00:57:31.698 So but thank you so much, James, for being with me. It's always a pleasure talking to you. 00:57:31.898 --> 00:57:35.518 Keep up the amazing work and subscribe to that RSS feed because I'm sure you 00:57:35.518 --> 00:57:38.398 got some major projects. You've done some amazing projects. 00:57:38.538 --> 00:57:41.038 I'm sure you got some big projects around the corner. 00:57:41.198 --> 00:57:44.258 You always do. and uh oh yeah i just released my 00:57:44.258 --> 00:57:47.378 fake news awards so if people haven't checked that out yet please 00:57:47.378 --> 00:57:50.578 do yeah i was gonna watch that i think that came out today or my 00:57:50.578 --> 00:57:53.358 time today yeah and uh yeah check that 00:57:53.358 --> 00:57:56.338 out it's hilarious that's one thing that you don't get enough credit for 00:57:56.338 --> 00:57:59.338 is your humor like people always talk about how 00:57:59.338 --> 00:58:01.938 uh you know our dear friend sam trippley oh you know 00:58:01.938 --> 00:58:04.738 he talks about conspiracies but he does it with humor so like 00:58:04.738 --> 00:58:07.798 you know you can kind of send people there and i'm like the 00:58:07.798 --> 00:58:13.018 video that went viral that almost you know for many people exposed people to 00:58:13.018 --> 00:58:19.178 james corbett was a hilarious 9 11 couple minute video i'm like it was all humorous 00:58:19.178 --> 00:58:25.918 it was like you you don't get enough credit for your humor thank you hopefully no i don't you're right. 00:58:26.618 --> 00:58:29.518 No it's sam tripoli it's jimmy door it's you're 00:58:29.518 --> 00:58:33.598 right the comedians is dave smith it's people like that anyway 00:58:33.598 --> 00:58:36.598 i am not a comedian by trade whatever i'm happy 00:58:36.598 --> 00:58:39.338 to be the research guy that's that nerd in 00:58:39.338 --> 00:58:42.198 japan right who reads a lot of books but yeah 00:58:42.198 --> 00:58:46.478 no humor is an important part of who i am and what i do so i'm glad that some 00:58:46.478 --> 00:58:49.818 people can recognize that and hopefully we see you on kill tony one day have 00:58:49.818 --> 00:58:55.778 you watched that show yeah no i i don't really but we'll see we'll see i'll 00:58:55.778 --> 00:59:00.378 let you know well well thanks again james hey enjoy the rest of your day and 00:59:00.378 --> 00:59:01.458 uh hopefully we'll talk We can see.