When you pass a kidney stone, you very often get excruciating pain and you get
bloody urine and everything else.
Well, that's what they're going through right now. So we can't look at it and
say, oh, the patient's dying, the patient's dying. No, it's a kidney stone to
them. And they're regrouping.
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Welcome back, friends. Welcome back to another edition of The Corbett Report.
I'm your host, James Corbett of CorbettReport.com, here in late December of 2025.
And it's towards the end of the year, and you don't want to hear about doom and gloom.
So let's talk about a little bit of bright news on the horizon,
or at least what could be the beginnings of a good news story.
What you haven't heard yet? Well, you can take the news from headlines like these.
LA Times op-ed. The left's climate panic is finally calming down.
Intensity of climate dread is weakening. Elites giving up on the climate catastrophism
hoax. And the climate cult's dissolution is inevitable.
Bill Gates stepped away. Most nations offered only empty nods to climate targets
as Bernie and AOC's climate gospel sidelined.
And best of all, the COP is over. And it was a total disaster for the climate cultists.
COP30 roundup, failure of a UN climate summit is great news for humanity.
Dot, dot, dot. But it might not be over yet. Alert. End times.
UK national emergency briefing wakes up world.
Ten of the UK leading experts warn the world of impending climate change disaster
scenarios that can no longer be ignored.
A wartime footing is necessary.
Yeah, there's some crazy stuff happening in the news right now.
So joining us to discuss this news is previous Corbett Report guest and the
author of The Great Reset,
Global Elites and the Permanent Lockdown is Mark Morano, who you'll remember
from our previous conversations. I'll throw the link in the show notes in case you don't.
Of course, he's at climatedepot.com where I sourced those previous headlines.
Mark Morano, thank you so much for joining us again today. Thank you, James. Happy to be here.
Excellent. Well, as people can tell from those headlines and maybe others that
they've been seeing, there is some big, big change happening in at least the
public perception of the climate hoax and hysteria.
And I know that you are a regular annual attendee of the UNFCCC's annual COP
Summit. So you were there at COP30 in Brazil. Tell us about that.
Well, first of all, it was one of the more out-of-the-way places that I've ever
been to a UN climate summit.
I've been to them in Bali, Indonesia, in Nairobi, Kenya, South Africa, South America.
I'm trying to think if this was the most, this may have been just the most difficult,
because you had to fly down to Brazil, and then you had to take internal flights
to this sort of rainforest jungle city called Balim. Oddly enough,
it was the second time I'd been to Belém.
I was there back exactly 23 years ago for a rainforest conference.
And I had done the Amazon rainforest documentary, clear-cutting the myths about all the environmental.
If you remember, you used to have Sting's rainforest concerts and all that.
And you had National Geographic and Hollywood and just X amount of football
fields a minute. Well, I did a documentary that came out in 2000,
25 years ago, debunking that with environmentalists throwing down the U.S. guidebooks.
So I spent some time in both Manaus and Rio and Belém before.
And this city that they had here was the most ill-prepared.
I can say that with confidence of certainly of all the 21 out of the last 23 I'd have attended.
This was a city where local media reporting 80% of the residents didn't have
access to adequate infrastructure, especially sewage and plumbing.
And that'll be important later on, that'll be important shortly, as I explain.
But this city was just a disaster for a UN climate summit.
It was true, not just poverty, but almost poverty.
Of primitivism, if you can use that word. I guess that's a colonial word and
that's considered racist nowadays.
But it was just infrastructure was completely crumbled, streets with holes,
crumbling walls on sidewalks, stray dogs and cats, people laying in the streets, dirt unpaved.
And then you would go to the main strip in Belim and it would be like you know,
Galleria malls and nice restaurants and high rise and classy hotels.
It was just, so there was all that going on, but essentially they brought in
50,000 people to the city that couldn't handle it.
And it was a just disaster from day one.
And just, you know, I'll get to the big picture in a second,
but I just want to go through the logistics of it.
They couldn't get, you know, plumbing right. And they had a situation where
world leaders didn't have access to any toilets at the UN summit for six hours.
This is according to the Irish reporters and Irish media, but this is the day before I got there.
And then they had massive problems with overflowing toilets and to the point
where they ended up restricting it with an announcement that people,
all UN delegates and attendees were no longer allowed to put toilet paper in
the toilets at this 50,000 seat conference center.
And by the way, the conference center itself was 88 football fields of Ringling
Brothers, Barnum & Bailey tents.
And it was just tent after tent after tent with no windows.
And they were very poorly constructed. When it rained, you would hear it,
the wind would move the tent, and you would also get lots of water inside.
I called it indoor weather modification. And I did videos on that.
You can go see it on my Twitter account on X or on my website.
But it was just a disaster. So they had to go, no toilet paper.
They had major infrastructure problems,
And this summit ultimately will be remembered as, first of all,
it was the first time in COP history out of 30 Conference of Parties or UN Climate
Summit meetings dating back to 1995.
It was the first one with no official US delegation. So that was significant.
And because of that, outlets like Newsweek and Politico declared that Donald
Trump's This decision not to send the U.S.
Delegation helped accelerate the collapse of this process and this climate summit
because it gave more weight and gravitas to the BRICS nations,
Brazil, Russia, and other developing nations who are fossil fuel economies,
who just asserted themselves without having to, you know, a lot of times a lot
of countries would either defer to the U.S. or the U.S.
Would take up all the oxygen in the negotiations. Well, they just refused to
sign on to this virtue signaling pledge at the end, which, by the way.
The summit would have probably been declared a success if all the world leaders
did what they do at every other summit and just say, we support a fossil free
world, fossil fuel free world in the next by 2040.
And then they all pat themselves on the back. Successful summit.
Let's go to the next one. They wouldn't they couldn't even get that out of it.
So the bottom line is this was COP30. It was a disaster from the beginning.
China took an unusual role in that they were the first pavilion when you walked
in. They had Chinese flags.
They had standing room only press conferences. They had books by Xi Jinping smiling.
And it brings the life Donald Trump's 2002 X tweet where he says the global
warming hoax was invented to basically make the United States non-competitive
in the world and make China the sole global superpower,
which is exactly what the UN agenda has done, whether it's from EV mandates,
the solar panels, the windmills.
And China, you know, sort of played it close to the vest.
They just sort of sit back as they build two coal plants a week,
nearly 100 coal plants a year.
And they supply most of the world's materials for EV batteries and solar plants and windmills.
They just sort of enjoy this. Xi Jinping did not need to attend this because
he was already represented by the environmental action and all the ideologues
and all the willing dupes of the European leaders who still go there and pledge
fealty to this client. agenda.
So the bottom line is this was such a disaster, followed on the heels of last
year's COP29, which I went to in Baku, Azerbaijan, a true oligarch, if there ever was one.
I remember filming cows in the streets, dirt streets, dire poverty.
And then you would go 10 blocks over and you'd see Rolls Royce dealerships and
the most unbelievable Gucci and all the jewelry stores and all the wealth.
It was an incredible display. But at that conference, you had the oil minister
of the host countries of Azerbaijan say that oil was a gift from God.
And Al Gore and others got so angry. And that negotiation also broke down where
Al Gore is now pushing after both COP 29 and COP 30 to not allow countries who
dissent from the UN climate agenda to attend.
Now, if they start banning countries, you're going to end up with an even further
collapse process, but they're really upset.
So to make a long story short, they've had 30 of these summits,
Carbon dioxide has continued to go up in the atmosphere for all 30 of these summits.
And nothing they've done has even slowed that rate.
But they keep making the pledges that by 2040, by 2050, we're going to be fossil
free. We're going to be net zero.
We're achieving our goals. And they just they will not stop.
So as it stands right now, the UN is I would call it now Robocop because they've
already announced next year is going to be at a Turkish resort along the sea in Turkey.
The next COP31. And COP32 is going to be in Africa, in Ethiopia,
which ought to be interesting because I don't know about their infrastructure
and their ability to handle 50,000 UN people plucking in for two weeks like they do.
But there are a couple other examples here. The big metaphor was the fire that they had.
They had a fire. As I mentioned, these were horribly constructed,
just temporary tent structure.
I don't even know the cause if they figured it out, but a fire broke out in
one of the tents and it literally was looked life threatening.
No one actually got killed. Some people had smoke inhalation,
but they had to shut down the entire conference for about half a day and clear
that out and then close off sections from that.
Um, and it, it just was a PR disaster. It was a substantive disaster.
And my favorite quote of the whole conference was Politico quoting a high level
UN officials just saying, I don't even know what the F we're doing here.
Meaning like, why are we even here? These conferences essentially haven't achieved
anything, but even the mainstream media, and you read some of the headlines
from the LA times to newsweek to Politico to the New York times,
they were all just saying this was.
You up and i gotta say of all the summits i've
been to i've never been to one where it's just like they are they can't get
their act together this was a absolute just shit show from beginning to end
one other point they served in their food court they had a un scam going where
you could only buy a a food card this was the first time in 30 years i didn't
well 20 years i'd ever seen it,
you had to buy a prepaid card and then if you didn't use it all up you then
had to apply for the UN in this long process, and they would refund you eventually,
maybe back to your bank or your cart.
It was this big scam, another way for the UN to make money.
But most significantly, they served meat at almost every single restaurant there.
Steak, chicken, and burgers.
Bob's Burgers, according to Politico, on day two of the conference,
sold out of all their beef burgers.
And that's just an example where the UN did an agriculture report saying cow
emissions were more damaging to the planet than all the planes,
trains, and automobiles combined.
And then, of course, the delegates gobbled up all the hamburgers and they ran
out on day two of the conference.
They also had no hotel shortage in this small city of Belém in Brazil, relatively small.
So they brought in cruise ships. And I mean, dozens of cruise ships along the
river there for delegates and world leaders and journalists.
I talked to many journalists who were staying. And these are like carnival cruise
lines. I mean, like the big ones.
And if you look that up, the carbon footprint of these carbon of these of these
cruise ships are bigger than the airline fare and the hotel combined if you
came other ways or stayed in a hotel.
So it was just one of the worst.
And I left out one of the biggest things was they had to put in a eight mile highway.
This was broken, exclusive story by the BBC. It was actually a press release
for a Brazilian like infrastructure transportation office bragging that they
were building this highway for the COP30.
And they clear-cut the rainforest.
And the environmental minister, when he was quoted by the BBC for COP30,
why are you clear-cutting rainforest for COP30?
Well, we need to bring in as many people as possible. Why?
So we can showcase to the world how we've been saving the rainforest.
You can't make that kind of absurdity up.
But that's it. So we actually sent out, we went out to the actual clear-cut
trees and the new highway that was built and being built.
And this upset a lot of environmentalists. Greenpeace was there talking all
about saving the forest.
So it embarrassed them so much at this conference that they came up with their
new plan to save the rainforest.
And you'll love this, James. The plan essentially is the developed world is
going to pay poor countries to save their forests.
A simpler plan may be just don't clear cut rainforest for worthless UN climate summits.
You paint quite the vivid picture there of a absolute disaster from soup to nuts, start to finish.
But suffice it to say, I guess, Leonardo DiCaprio and Bono and others weren't
jet setting in here for their PR campaigns.
No, there was not a single.
Now that you mentioned it, I don't believe a single Hollywood celebrity of any kind showed up.
Now, previous ones, I interviewed Harrison Ford in Madrid.
Greta used to be at all these. By the way, Greta, I in many ways respect her
because it's Scotland, 2002, which I can't do the math.
I think it was like COP 27 or 28. I don't know.
It was a year of interruption with COVID. So they didn't have one, but COVID lockdown.
But Greta said she's going to stop going to these.
She said the UN, the whole COP climate process was a scam and that it was nothing but greenwashing.
And she just said it's a joke. So she stopped going. She turned against the
UN so much so that the year later, when I went to I went to Sharm el-Sheikh,
England, Egypt, which was on the Red Sea Resort.
And that was that that conference featured the new Greta, which they basically recruited.
She was like the spokesman for the UN giving keynotes.
Well, then they brought in this this young, young blonde and she was dubbed
Hot Greta because she looked like a model and she wore skimpy outfits.
And she became sort of the climate influencer for the young people.
And Greta just disappeared. So Greta is no longer involved. There were no celebrities
who did show up with Senator Whitehouse of Rhode Island, the Democrat senator.
And you know what he spent his time doing? It was amazing.
He just, first of all, he bashed Donald Trump. But interestingly enough,
he complained that the State Department, for the first time in however many
years he's been a senator, didn't pay his way down to the UN Climate Summit.
And he went on and on about how he had to get outside funding and how the State
Department wouldn't fund it. And this is outrageous.
Basically, it's an outrageous use of tax dollars that they didn't pay his way.
That was funny. And by the way, these aren't cheap. When I was in the U.S.
Senate, I traveled to the State Department when I was with the U.S.
Senate Environment Public Works.
I went to Bali, Indonesia. I went to Kenya.
My airline flight, it was business class, which is equivalent to first class.
I'd lay down beds, the warm cookies, full meals.
I mean, I had everything. It was incredible. Loved traveling that way. be $15,000 plus.
I still have the receipts from the State Department just as a Senate staffer
for me to go. So you can imagine the bills for U.S. senators.
They probably don't go business class. They probably go the extra bump up the first class.
So, you know, by Donald Trump saved the U.S. taxpayer probably in the neighborhood
of $20,000 by not paying for Senator Whitehouse's trip.
I think he's one of the only elected officials that were there from the U.S.
Senate of Congress, Gavin Newsom showed up.
Now, he was reportedly, according to D.C. examiners, flew in on a private jet.
I can't imagine any other way he would fly in. By the way, took me 38 hours,
just to give you an idea how difficult this was, 38 hours from Washington,
D.C., Washington, Dulles, to get finally to my destination in Belém.
This was during the big shutdown in Washington, too.
So I had to sleep in the airport and fly the next day, and he had delays in
the next airport. I mean, it was just, it was a mess.
But Gavin Newsom showed up and just was preening for all the cameras and bashing
Trump. He's trying to, of course, get the nomination.
I'm not convinced he's, I'm convinced he's probably going to be the next president after Donald Trump.
He'll probably be elected because we're in a yin-yang situation in American politics.
And I think, you know, we'll see where it goes, but he's positioning himself for that.
But there was no AOC, no Bernie. What's interesting is if you look at the whole
Donald Trump in his first hundred days just decimated in a way that his first
term couldn't even fathom the entire climate and energy agenda of the climate agenda.
And there's literally and virtually no pushback from anyone.
I mean, I'm talking even climate activists, even Al Gore. Al Gore moved his
activism overseas from the United States, doesn't even talk about it.
Democrat senators were silent. Bernie Sanders, relatively quiet AOC on this issue.
You know, they're still active and powerful groups because they were active.
They did push back heavily on Donald Trump's immigration agenda.
You know, Democrat mayors, governors, but on climate, just crickets.
So the UN comes and they felt this need. So Nancy Pelosi holds a press conference with other Democrats.
Nancy Pelosi at one point said, oh, yeah, this is important.
And Donald Trump is dismantling it and we got to fight it or whatever.
She was just checking a box.
And White House, you know, actually went for the first time,
really showed any interest. But otherwise, there's just been no one cares.
They realize they have to lay low. It's very similar to the transgender agenda
where there's really been no pushback to the dismantling of that.
It's almost like they just realized they overreached and they're laying quiet.
And that's the same thing with climate.
So I don't think it's over. We'll get into the reasons of that separately.
But the bottom line is Donald Trump by there's a lot of I have a lot of problems
with Trump's presidency, mainly being I don't like the foreign policy.
I think it's too neoconservative, number one.
Number two, I think he's helping build a surveillance state with Palantir.
This was a Bush Cheney. I don't have to tell you this stuff,
but I'm just giving you the bigger picture.
Bush Cheney tried this, was ruled unconstitutional. Even Democrat senators were against it.
So then they created Palantir. I think it was 2002, right, when Bush Cheney
stopped after they were trying to create a government surveillance state.
So now Palantir has a contract, doesn't have the constitutional restrictions.
I'm not big on Trump's AI agenda and the whole idea of, you know,
us taxpayers subsidizing Bezos and Gates and all these Soviet style buildings
cropping up everywhere.
And now even a Fox News host saying, well, you, you know, you don't even need a Christmas tree.
You don't get a don't get a real Christmas tree because that data centers are
encroaching on Christmas tree farms.
Anyway, my point being, I can criticize many aspects of Trump's administration,
but on the climate energy environment, he's exceeded.
I'm in a group of climate activists.
Climate skeptic activists. We had like a top 10 list. Trump blew through that
like in the first week of his presidency.
He then blew past it to like 70, 80. I mean, items that we didn't even think
were worth asking for because they were so far away, he was doing.
And so the two things, I know I'm filibustering here, but the two things that
are, a couple of things that are important,
what can Trump do to make it permanent? And is it actually dead?
So those are the two things looming large, but I'll answer any other questions
you have about COP30 or the state of the climate agenda if you'd like.
Well, I definitely want to get to that because that is obviously an important part of this.
But I think what you're gesturing towards is not just the failure of a singular
COP conference, whatever.
No, this is about a fundamental change in the narrative that's taken place.
And I think the way that we can understand that perhaps best is something that
happened right before COP30 was that a certain climate activist named Bill Gates
came out with a blog post that went viral called Three Tough Truths About Climate.
What I want everyone at COP30 to know where it seems Mr.
Gates has stepped away from, sorry, doctor, learned Dr. Bill Gates.
Oh, wait, he isn't a doctor of anything.
Is that Amir? What's your doctor? Is that a- Yeah, exactly.
Step back from his climate catastrophism to say, you know what,
actually, rising temperatures aren't going to kill us all and we should be focusing on human outcomes.
I think there are probably a number of self-interested reasons why Bill Gates
is doing this, one of which is knowing which way the narrative winds are blowing
and starting to get ahead of it.
And re-basically started a different narrative around this.
I think another part of this is the AI data center monstrosities that are taking
up more and more and more and more of the energy grid and realizing solar and
wind isn't going to cut it for the AI data behemoth.
But anyway, what's your take on Gates and what that signals about the way the
narrative itself is changing?
Absolutely stunning. I mean, what's interesting about it is Bill Gates could
have told you in year 2000, year 2010, 2020, that climate was not a catastrophe
and that we should focus on human flourishing was the word he used.
He actually said, quote, it's not a catastrophe. He could have told you all
that. He knew. He's not a dumb person. So it's not like, oh,
there's some new science up.
No, a couple of factors contributed. A, 30 years of failure,
nothing. It's just all virtue signaling.
One of the key things I understand about this, and we'll get to explain Bill Gates.
Is that this was very easy for both Republicans and Democrats in year 2006,
when Al Gore's film came out 2010 with obama's
cap and trade and all his epa stuff subsequently it was very easy through the
teens for all the democrat governors and mayors and all these i'm going to support
you know net zero and we're going to do you know phase out fossil fuels we're
going to do ev man everything just sounded great arnold schwarzenegger was credited in 2005 with the,
california climate bill as being the savior of the climate but he was he did
nothing all he did was commit stuff to regulatory that they wouldn't feel the
effects of till many years after he's out of office.
Well, what happened was, finally, all the chickens came home to roost,
people were feeling it, you started feeling it, particularly like the gas powered
car ban, and the EV mandate that was not that was going down like a hunk of
concrete, no one could swallow that.
So that, you know, that, of course, was reversed. And it was reversed,
and actually a very good way where the Republicans actually voted in Congress,
to reverse that and make it so it's not just an executive order or an EPA or
some administrative action.
And what happened was the Ukraine invasion, Russia's invasion of Ukraine laid it bare in Europe.
So you had Europe widely abandoning net zero now.
You had the Green New Deal halted in Europe. The EU elections last year went
remarkably toward climate skeptics and energy realists, people who aren't buying in the net zero.
The recent German elections were the same way. You had the farmers' rebellion
beginning in the Netherlands, spreading throughout the EU, culminating with
them throwing manure on the headquarters of the EU.
So people, they were feeling it. They were connecting it. It was no longer a cheap virtue signal.
So Bill Gates knew that was all coming. And then you have the election of Donald Trump.
And one of the key things Donald Trump has done and Lee Zeldin has done,
even more so than Chris Wright, his energy secretary, but Lee Zeldin, the EPA chief, has done.
And I didn't like Lee Zeldin. I mean, I didn't like the idea of him.
I didn't know much about him, but I knew he had capitulated to,
I think it was Showtime, to climate activists. He had in the past changed his
position and said, oh, climate's a problem.
But as EPA secretary, he has reframed the entire narrative.
He calls it a cult, a scam, and a religion.
And he just goes after the media. He is strong.
And it's amazing to watch. And he's one of the most consequential members of
the Trump cabinet, maybe next to someone like RFK Jr.
I know there's a lot of criticism saying RFK is not going far enough or it might
be controlled opposition, but there's still been significant changes there as well.
Those are two cabinet members I think are the most consequential so far.
You know, outside of foreign policy. I mean, but anyway, so...
With Bill Gates's sizing all this up, keep in mind, right before he did this,
CNN pollster said that you can go back to the 1980s and Americans' concern over
climate change hasn't changed much.
After trillions of dollars, all the kids indoctrinated, indoctrination of climate
fears from kindergarten to college, all the public scares, Al Gore movies,
all the media reports, all the linking every bad weather event.
CNN pollster said there was no change in concern since the 1980s.
And that's the key metric. Everyone's like, do you believe in global warming?
Has the earth warmed? Do you believe?
Meaningless. Are you afraid of it? Are you concerned? That's the number.
And that really is we're back to record low numbers that we were at before they
even started the campaign.
So Bill Gates is not a dumb man. Two reasons he did this.
One of them, of course, was the election of Donald Trump and the reframing of the narrative.
And Bill Gates is trying to suck up to power. And that's what he does.
That's what pretty much all billionaires do is suck up to power.
And one of the things that Bill Gates recognizes is the other thing he mentions is the AI.
Bill Gates is so terrified of lack of energy. And he's not a,
again, he's a guy that you can look at energy.
He's trying to lease Three Mile Island. Mark Zuckerberg is trying to,
both of them are either trying to lease or buy nuclear power plants just to
power their AI ambitions.
Larry Fink of BlackRock actually came out and said that solar and wind cannot
even come close to powering.
This was last year, April of 2024.
Can't come out and come close to powering AI. This is the guy who's now the
operational head, the co-operational head after Klaus Schwab of the World Economic
Forum. Larry Fink admitted this.
So there's no way they can spin virtue signal, lie, or come up with any modeling
speculation about this.
So Bill Gates, by saying this, particularly right before the conference, was a game changer.
They went into this conference deflated. In fact, one of the only things of
substance that Al Gore did was he attacked Bill Gates.
I never thought in my life I would see Al Gore attacking Bill Gates.
He said that Bill Gates, this is at COP30, Al Gore said Bill Gates was being
bullied by Donald Trump and that he was essentially caving in and being,
quote, silly. That was the phrase he used, silly.
That Gates' comments on climate were silly.
And that is a game changer. I've never heard, I never thought I would see it. What's next?
Is Bloomberg or George Soros going to recant next? I don't know,
but it's an amazing thing to watch and never have we seen it this low.
And I'm not even mentioning all the other aspects of this.
The net zero bank collapsing, all of the whole ESG collapsing.
All these climate pledges right before the summit.
I think it was like over 80 nations didn't even bother to submit their climate
pledges, which is sort of customary right before the UN conference,
you know, the whole UN Paris agreement is in tatters that 10 years after that,
all the mainstream media is,
was UN Paris climate pack, which was almost to this week, 10 years ago.
And I was there for that in Paris. They had wanted pictures of my face up wanted
for being a criminal, the climate, climate criminal, because we premiered our
film climate hustle during the conference at a historic theater.
We were shut down by the protesters. We had to have police come and have a police escort.
And, you know, we did a whole red carpet walk.
But my point is all the media is
looking back 10 years ago, and they're basically saying it was a failure.
But and then the way they spin it is, well, at least it gave us the framework
and we can move forward. And it was an important step.
But they're all admitting none of it came true. And this is 10 years later.
Remember, we were told in 2015 that we've saved the planet.
Obama, the French president, the U.N. secretary general, all the world leaders
were like, our grandchildren will look back and thank us for this historic day.
And what happened? Within a year, they were talking about we had to save the
planet all over again. So Bill Gates helped deflate it. And again,
it's his own self-interest.
He wants those AI. He wants our own, and this is viscerally opposed to this, our own Pentagon.
And I guess his energy department is giving out $100 million contracts to big
tech firms to build and subsidize these AI data plans.
We're also doing the Republican version of the Green New Deal, if you want to say that.
The Trump administration is doing guaranteed loans. Does that sound familiar? For nuclear power.
Now, you could take the non-ideological Jack Kemp view, and he did this with welfare.
He always say, like, to the extent he would point to, like, the Walter Williams
view that, you know, the inner cities in the 1960s, welfare destroyed the black
family and churches, and it gave single motherhood. And then,
of course, the poverty rate went up.
So they would always say, to the extent Jack Kemp was famous,
to the extent that government should be involved.
They need to be involved to the extent that they created the problem.
So yes, it's against sort of, and that's what I think the Trump administration
is saying now with these loan guarantees to nuclear industry,
which a lot, again, we're dealing with who has the best lobbyists,
who has the best connections,
you know, and so they're going to be giving out, you know.
Unsecured, guaranteed taxpayer loans to nuclear facilities on a limited basis.
They're claiming only 10.
You know, if we, if this was a Democrat president doing this with solar or wind,
you can imagine all the free market and conservatives howling,
but there's not a peep out of it now.
You know, I'm just telling you,
that's some of the interesting things happening on the sideline there.
Yeah, well, as we have alluded to, I think, a couple of times in this conversation, it ain't over yet.
We are not out of the woods on this climate agenda and the trillions of dollars
of sunk costs that have been put into this scare over the decades.
And one example of that I mentioned off the top, the UK national emergency briefing
that's waking up the world. We have to start a wartime footing.
They're not giving up on this scam that easily.
So how, first of all, how are they going to continue to press it and how best can we counteract that?
Well, I think this is important. And again, I'm not telling you anything you
don't know, your audience doesn't know, but COVID was the COVID lockdowns were
the game changer on climate.
You can look at someone like Joe Rogan right before, I mean,
in the years leading up, excuse me, the COVID lockdowns.
He had, I remember he had Candace Owens on in like 2017, and she was telling
him about climate skepticism.
He's like, I don't agree with you at all. Let's going, look,
here's the NASA website. It says, you know, 97% of scientists agree.
Joe Rogan was citing NASA to debunk a climate skeptic, right?
Fast forward, Joe Rogan is like the biggest climate skeptic there is today.
He has Bernie Sanders on, he's showing them the chart, showing that we're at
the record low temperature the last half a million years or 500 million years
or the lowest CO2 as well.
And it's the same thing with Russell Brand, with Jimmy Dore,
with all these progressives. I've talked to Naomi Wolf.
I mean, all of these people, RFK Jr. when he announced for president,
said, I'm not going to talk about climate.
This was the guy who I interviewed in 2014 at the New York City Climate March.
He wanted to jail the CEOs of energy companies.
He wanted to punish skeptical politicians for expressing dissenting climate
views from the UN and Al Gore.
He announces in 2000, I guess he ran in 23 when he was running for president,
when he announced, he said, I'm not going to talk about climate during my campaign
because it's been hijacked by the world economic forum and the united nations
for totalitarian control of society end of story so.
That's a big component of this is these these sort of I guess you could call
them honest liberals, classical liberals or whatever.
A lot of them have just turned on that whole movement. And a lot of people now,
you could go to a public discussion and all the experts agreed.
No one buys it anymore. Thanks to Anthony Fauci. Thanks to public health and
what they did on COVID. So it made my job a lot easier.
Now, you asked me where they're going from here. the way they're looking at
this, they're looking at Donald Trump in this current moment as sort of he's
a kidney stone that's very painful, but has to be passed through the system.
When you pass a kidney stone, you very often get excruciating pain and you get
bloody urine and everything else.
Well, that's what they're going through right now. So we can't look at it and
say, oh, the patient's dying, the patient's dying. No, it's a kidney stone to them.
And they're regrouping. One of the things COVID lockdowns brought was the idea
of morphing climate into public health.
By doing this, they can bypass democracy completely because even,
post-COVID, most states, other than places like Ron DeSantis' Florida and a
couple other states, there hasn't been a lot of reforms to prevent the mandates
and vaccine mandates and lockdowns
and mask mandates we saw last time and stay-at-home orders and et cetera.
There just isn't a lot of reforms. So the next pandemic scare,
they're going to try all that again. Well, their idea is.
Starting Australian researchers during COVID came out and said,
let's add climate change as a cause of death to death certificates.
As a cause of death. That's now in the peer-reviewed journal.
Secondly, a group of Canadian doctors started actually diagnosing,
and it was actually, it was in, I think it was in Vancouver,
the first medically diagnosed case of a patient suffering from climate change.
Actually, the doctor actually put it on the diagnosis sheet at the hospital.
And this is reported by the mainstream media.
This isn't like dark web conspiracies and reporting. Everything I'm saying is
like mainstream, either academic journal or corporate media.
So they want to add it as a cause of death.
And then you have the idea, Anthony Fauci had done multiple papers on this.
Unchecked climate change leads to more viruses like COVID. We need to therefore
regulate this. So the World Health and Dutiful Organization said that climate
is one of the existential threats of the 21st century.
And now we have hospitals considering climate change.
They're talking about limits on scrub water supply for surgeons scrubbing up for surgery.
They're talking about limits on anesthesia.
The American Cancer Society did a whole study fretting about the carbon footprint of cancer care.
And it's just it's unbelievable. If you look at what's going on in our medical
care, doctors have climate toolkits that just began and they're talking to patients
about climate change and how they can mitigate their own footprint and their eco-anxiety.
So I think that's one of the ways they're going to go forward because it's very
hard. They can never get a vote again.
Like we're going to have the vote in the United States Congress.
Like that's so old school. No one cares about that. You'd either do an executive
order, you would do it through the EPA as they've done, or you would do it through public health.
So the other thing is that the way that, so this is what's happening.
And the other reason though, it's not over aside from them turning it into public
health issue is you have trillions of dollars.
You have billionaires from Richard Branson, Soros, still Gates funding it.
Gates newfound skepticism doesn't mean he's not funding the research at Harvard
university to block out the sun and geoengineer the climate.
It doesn't mean that he's, you know, not, it's still the number one far,
or at least I don't know if he's still number one farmland owner,
but NBC News had reported he's the single number one farmland owner in America,
followed closely by China, followed closely by I want to say Jeff Bezos,
I believe, is really close on his heels to all these billionaires buying up land.
It goes in line with the whole equity asset thing and all the purchases of real
estate, especially outside of suburban or major cities where they're buying them all up. And.
So Bill Gates has been pushing. He actually told the MIT Technology Review he
wanted to stop everyone from eating actual meat.
Instead, eat fake meat or lab-grown meat. The difference being fake meat is
the vegetable oil processed like the Impossible Burger, which,
by the way, is tanking is now like millions in debt and maybe going under,
which was a big Al Gore thing. So that's a good sign.
People are rejecting the ultra processed fake meat, vegetable oil.
But also this this lab grown meat is frightening.
So that's a whole nother thing. So you got all these billionaires funding it.
You have the foundations funding it. The Associated Press gets millions every year.
I think it's from either the Getty Foundation or the Thai Foundation to do a climate desk.
You have academia, you have corporate media, you have all the corporations,
you have the government and institutions from NASA and NOAA.
Even despite Trump, you know, beside his budget cuts, which have been much more
significant the second round, they're all still there.
Everyone's still there. The UN is still there.
America's signature is still on the dotted line of that 1992 Rio Earth Summit
treaty. And that was ratified by the US Senate.
So just to morph into how we get out of this, the two things that Donald Trump
needs to do, and the one I know he's on top of, and that's going after the CO2
endangerment finding, Just keep in mind that humans inhale oxygen,
we exhale carbon dioxide.
The CO2 endangerment finding was originally implemented by the Obama administration.
And the idea was to regulate carbon dioxide, what humans exhale from our mouth,
as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act.
Never mentioned carbon dioxide. So they retroactively did it.
And it's been regulated like that.
Now, Trump administration first term stopped, but then Biden started it again.
Trump stopped this time.
What they're trying to do now is they're going to announce this in January, I'm told.
I was at a luncheon with EPA officials two weeks ago in Washington.
There's going to be a big announcement on this in January into February.
They're going to have the legal team trying to make this. They're going to try
to reverse the entire frame.
In other words, the legal basis for this. And it's going to eventually hopefully
go back to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court rule that you cannot regulate
carbon dioxide as a pollutant without a legislative act of Congress.
This can't be done through basically judicial fiat and reinterpreting the original
Clean Air Act, you know, from the 1970s and I guess the revision in the 1990s.
So that's a big one. If Trump can get rid of that, that's the basis for a lot
of our EV and solar and wind and climate goals and states and localities use it.
Well, we have the endangerment finding. We have to regulate carbon dioxide as
a pollutant. And that's another way to link it to public health, by the way.
If it's a pollutant, pollution is bad for public health, and therefore carbon
dioxide can be regulated.
And the second thing is, and this is what my message in COP30 was,
and I was very excited because I said this live on Fox and Friends.
I did four Fox News hits that week from COP30.
The first one was the most significant because Donald Trump on Truth Social.
Posted my entire segment.
And in that segment, I mentioned to him, Mr.
President, you need to go after this 1992 treaty that Republican President George
H.W. Bush got us into, the Rio Earth Summit Treaty.
This brought in sustainable development. It brought in Agenda 21.
It brought in the UN climate process, which then later led to the UN-Paris Agreement.
It brought in net zero. Everything began.
We need to vacate that treaty. And I quote in my report, you have not only mainstream
media, but legal experts basically saying if a president vacates a treaty like that,
it's going to take a new signing of the treaty and potentially depending on
legal interpretations.
And these are like economists, you can get a bunch of different opinions,
but it looks very likely in the environmental left and climate activists are
worried and the mainstream media is worried. So that's a good sign.
You'd have to get it re-ratified by the Senate, which I think in today's environment
would be virtually impossible.
So I said to him in my best Ronald Reagan voice, Mr. President,
tear up this treaty from 1992.
And he actually posted it. So I'm hoping this message, because I have not,
there's been a couple officials early on that alluded to it,
but there doesn't seem to be any movement.
He needs to get on this immediately because there's going to be,
we need to get started with a legal challenge and we need to make this stick because-
yin, yang, Obama, Trump, Biden, Trump, back and forth with climate and energy
policy is not good for anyone.
And those two things, vacating the UN climate treaty,
I'm sorry, the UN Rio Earth Summit Treaty from 1992, and abolishing the CO2
endangerment finding where governments can regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant
without an act of Congress based on a Supreme Court interpretation that,
you know, we can just say, oh, CO2 is a pollutant.
That is what we, if we can do those two steps, there can be a certain level
of permanence to help us against a future president, AOC or Gavin Newsom.
And I will bet you, I feel very strongly that Gavin Newsom will be either the
next president or a president within eight years.
I mean, he's that, I just don't think America had a huge realignment that everyone thinks of.
I think Donald Trump has, because of his personality and because of maybe some
overreach and because of his non-populist agenda,
has damaged his brand enough that he's going to be, you know,
he only has maybe like six more months before the midterm campaigning kicks in.
And then of course, you're going to have, I think a Democrat win in the midterms.
And then Trump's going to be, you know, pretty much stymied from any more congressional action.
So now is the time. And I really think they need to do those two things to make
this semi-permanent because the first term with Trump's first term as great
as it was, nothing compared to what he did this time, was undone within like
like two months of Biden being president.
That's how quickly you can undo that stuff and just they reverse course on all the policies.
You know, Mark, it's so gratifying to see that I think we have independently
come to the exact same conclusions on all of this.
For people who want more on that 1992 Rio Earth Summit and its centrality to this issue,
they can see my How and Why Big Oil Conquered the World documentary,
where I talk about Morris Strong and the UNEP and how that played such an important
building block in the narrative that we are currently seeing deconstructed or
reconstructed before our very eyes.
Secondarily, yeah, the health issue. I've been ringing the bell about this for a few years now.
The key words, one health, is the new agenda that they're trying to push.
And that's the key words they're using at the WHO and the UN to try to bring
all of this under one big umbrella that they can regulate everything.
Everything in the world, including you and everything you supposedly own and all the rest.
So I think, yeah, those are two incredibly important parts of this.
And yes, Mr. President, if you're watching the Corbett Report, rip up that treaty.
Excellent. And I think I'd have other things to say to the president besides.
But besides that, I mean, there's first of all, just to the climate skeptics
out there who have held their ground for all these decades, give yourselves a big pat on the back.
And yes, thankfully, we are starting to see the public waking up to the hoax
and seeing through what has really happened here.
But it ain't over yet. And there's more to come.
So I know that I will be keeping an eye on it through outlets like,
of course, Climate Depot. It's such a valuable resource. for that.
Why don't you tell people a little bit about the work that you do and how people
can stay tuned to the latest developments?
Yeah, my website's climatedepot.com. I'm at X, I'm at Climate Depot.
And I cover this daily and I'm going to be meeting with the Trump administration
again in January and I'll be getting updates.
I'm also going for a week, the third week in January, I'm going to Davos to
the World Economic Forum, uncredentialed. I'll try to get a credential.
I don't think it's going to be possible, but I'm going either way.
We're doing an alternative climate,
Great Reset event at that. And I believe Donald Trump will be attending as well.
Not ours, but I mean, in Davos. But we're going to have an alternative event right outside of Davos.
And I will be running around the streets seeing who I can get in Davos.
They may be shutting down any non-friendly reporters, but we'll see.
And I think we go forward on this.
I'll be covering all this at Climate Depot. So thank you so much,
James, for the time and opportunity to talk to you and your audience.
Well, thank you for the updates. And thank you for a little good news cheer
towards the end of the year. I do appreciate it. Mark, let's not leave it so long till the next time.
Thanks for coming on. Thank you, Jay. Appreciate it.
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