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So great to have James Corbett back on KLA TV

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James thank you so much for agreeing to yet another

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interview thank you for having me on I would

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like James Corbett's take on America's strange behavior vis-a-vis Iran Greenland

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Venezuela, Cuba and Palestine now and I know that's a lot we could do two hours

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but I wonder if you want to put all of this in a nice nutshell,

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encapsulating the insane, well, let's just say encapsulating the U.S.

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Stance? Or do you want to take these one by one?

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Let's take them in two groups. I would say that Iran and Palestine and what

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is happening there definitely have a relation.

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And the common factor in both in the U.S.

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Stance in both of those situations is, of course, Israel.

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And I think Israel's desire to undermine Iran as a potential regional rival

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fully explains why the U.S. has the stance that it does against Iran.

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Does anyone, anyone in the entire world believe at this point that the U.S.

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Government is involved in trying to destabilize the Iranian regime because they

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care about the Iranian people and they want to see democracy flourish and blah, blah, blah?

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Of course not. We are old enough to understand that that is absolute nonsense and tosh.

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So what is the real answer there? Well, I think it has more to do with the Zionist

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faction that is looking to create the greater Israel and recognizing that Iran

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would be a bulwark against the creation of such a thing,

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and obviously with Hezbollah and other such things operating against Israel,

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and of course in Palestine as well.

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And to whatever extent that Trump may or may not

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actually be the wheeler dealer businessman that we

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we understand his public persona to be and

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that maybe he really is just trying to get trump grit Gaza

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going with this casinos on the beach and whatever else

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is supposedly going to happen in those AI monstrosity fantasies that are being

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constructed by trump's fans online uh to whatever extent that that might be

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a thought in his head it is only there because of course he is in really working

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with his friend his partner in crime literally unconvicted war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu.

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So I think that that explains that side of the geopolitical aisle.

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But when we talk about the Don Roe doctrine and its various implications for

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Venezuela and Cuba and Greenland and other things in the Western hemisphere,

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I think we have to understand this in the context of an interesting map.

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That one can find at the Cornell Library. It has it online in very high res

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if you want to go download it. It's called the Technate of America.

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And it was a map that was produced in 1940 by Howard Scott,

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who was a complete charlatan who somehow or other managed to worm his way into

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academic and upper crust circles in the 1920s and 30s in order to create something

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called Technocracy Inc.,

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which was an organization that was dedicated to the social engineering of society by technocrats.

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Mostly engineers and scientists, who would know how to precisely balance the

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inputs and outputs in the economy in order to stop the big swings in the economy that was,

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of course, the defining characteristic of life for people living through the Great Depression,

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wondering how are, you know, capitalism has failed, how are we going to solve this?

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Well, there was Howard Scott and his friend, King Hubbard, who people will know

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as Hubbard's Peak, aka Peak Oil, comes from a Shell Oil researcher along those lines of oil, etc.

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Anyway, he came up with the Peak Oil. He also wrote the Technocracy Study Course,

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which is this voluminous study course about how the technocrats will rule over their Technate.

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And so they said, we don't want governments, we don't

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want elected politicians we don't want any of that we are

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going to set up a Technate and the Technate of America

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will include and there is the map that

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you can go and look up online and it includes Greenland and

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interestingly it includes part of Venezuela and it includes

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Cuba and it includes panama and central America etc

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and all of this will be conjoined in

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a single unit called the Technate of America that will be stewarded over by

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these technocrats now obviously technocracy inc is long well actually it still

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exists but it is a rump organization at this point but the idea of technocracy

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continues to thrive in the 21st century and.

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You know, there are some interesting historical parallels with some of the people

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who make their presence known on the international stage, even to this day,

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like, say, Elon Musk, who people may or may not know.

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His grandfather, his Canadian grandfather, was literally a card-carrying member of Technocracy, Inc.

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In Saskatchewan back in the 1930s before he was run out of Canada and ended

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up in South Africa, where the Musk family originates from. his grandfather, Joshua Haldeman.

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Halderman? Haldeman. Look that up and fact check me.

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But it is true. His grandfather was a literal technocrat. And then you get Elon

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Musk tweeting such things as, you know, preparing for the Martian technocracy, etc.

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So I think technocracy is the lens through which we have to understand this

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unfolding Don Roe doctrine.

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And what is really going to unfold from this is the consolidation of the Western

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Hemisphere into this Technate of America.

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Now, this consolidation, I mean, it's just too fantastic to imagine that it's

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going to happen in the very near future as an invasion of these countries.

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I mean, you can't foresee boots on the ground in Greenland, Venezuela, or Cuba, can you?

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No. Well, no, I will qualify that.

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But for example, with Greenland, so we saw

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this play out obviously over the course of the past month there was all suddenly

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the world economic forum the main topic of discussion is will trump invade Greenland

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and you have nato talking about stationing troops there and Canada was going

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to come to Greenland's defense all of this craziness and then what eventuated

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as trump announced well we're not going to take it by force.

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And so it seemed like just another art of the deal.

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Trump obviously getting people to talk and think along one line and then retreating

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so that it seems like we can cut a deal and there'll be.

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But all of that, of course, was distraction because, in fact, the U.S.

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Already has a military base operating and functioning in Greenland right now.

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It has had a longstanding post-World War II relationship with Denmark to situate

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American forces on Greenland.

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They have been operating there for for over half

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a century at this point 80 years or so um so the

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idea that there would ever need to be a full-on American

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invasion in order to make these things happen does seem

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fanciful but that's the perhaps that's the point no the

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the military side of this is not the operative part of it it is to some extent

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about securing resources um including of course the rare earth deposits and

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other such things that obviously um Greenland has in abundance and that are

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sitting out there for the taking in this new mad scramble for the Arctic that's

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going on geopolitically,

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but more specifically, the securing of the resources.

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For the tech Native America, as in for this coming political consolidation unit

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that is coming into view right now.

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And I think we've been being prepared for the consolidation of these.

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Grander geopolitical regional units for some time now, because we've been seeing

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the NATO versus BRICS sort of idea of some sort of multipolar struggle taking

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place on the grand chessboard of geopolitics for some time.

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And I think we've been being prepared for the idea that it's going to be some

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sort of consolidation of a North American slash Western hemispheric continental

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regional security apparatus of some sort.

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Will it be literally a government that will consolidate all of these with boots

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on the ground? I don't think that is the most likely way of doing it.

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But some sort of consolidation politically, economically, and in terms of supply

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lines and supply chains, which is probably the operative part of this going

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forward into the 21st century.

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I want to preface this question with a pre-question, and that is this.

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Consider the two wars in Iraq and the interim when President Clinton was in

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power in the United States,

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and we still had an economic embargo on Iraq. We still had a no-fly zone.

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I think we still might have been bombing them.

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Certainly, we were blocking off many kinds of supplies, including,

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as far as my research, or as far as I know, medicine and food.

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So, could you consider that that interim period was also simply a continuation

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of the war, and the war actually did not end?

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Absolutely yes no of course the uh

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the war just took a different form and it

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was of course concentrated on at that time the civilian population

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and that was actually known and deliberate because of course there's that infamous

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clip of madeline albright on 60 minutes in the 1990s talking about the half

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million iraqi children who had died as a result of the sanctions and she said

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well if they you know the the price is worth it which of course is that That

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infamous clip that hopefully people have seen by this point.

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So yes, this was just warfare by another means.

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Warfare by another means. So if we consider economic strangleholds as warfare,

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and then we consider the case of Venezuela and Cuba and the fact that,

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well, I can just list the oil tanker that was heading.

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I think, from Venezuela to Cuba, a country that's kind of in tough straits anyway.

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And and i think for them removing one

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oil tanker could be quite significant so in the

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sense that we have an economic stronghold on these countries are we

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at war with Venezuela and Cuba is the

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u.s at war with Venezuela and Cuba now I suppose

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uh clearly there was a state of warfare going on with Venezuela over the past

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few months perhaps that state of warfare no longer pertains simply because America

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has seemingly achieved its objective of being able to steer the current Venezuelan

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government in whichever way it wants.

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To the extent that the Venezuelan government now complies with American dictates,

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then I suppose the state of warfare doesn't exist.

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But the threat of warfare, of course, certainly does.

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And so, yes, there is still elements of an economic blockade,

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but I think that is really just positioning in order to get the American corporate

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interests in there to take over, essentially, the oil industry, etc. there.

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We've already seen, of course, that was what was explicitly put on the table

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as the reason for the Venezuela takeover.

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I don't think that's the full story, but at any rate, that is contributory to it.

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And so, as long as the current Venezuelan government is compliant with American

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demands, then I think America is happy not to be involved in that warfare.

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Yes. Do you think these corporate interests will have luck in Cuba as well?

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Do you think that the Cuban people will be soon blessed by McDonald's and BlackRock

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and everything we enjoy in the United States?

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If the current administration gets its way it does

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seem that that is where these this is trending and perhaps

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if they don't get their way at least not in the way that they want with

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some sort of spontaneous people's uprising as people get uh

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as the people start to rise up against their government in

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um as a result of these strangulation blockades ultimately

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having their political effect if that does not eventuate then we've already

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seen the precedent the precedent is for the president of the United States to

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send in the Navy SEAL Team 6 or whoever needs to go in in order to abduct whoever

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claims to be in power today and do whatever else needs to be done.

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Can we possibly say that anything would be off the table?

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No, of course. I think anything that we have seen already eventuate,

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like for example, in Venezuela is very much on the table for Cuba.

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Okay. Now, when you say if the current administration gets its way,

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do American geopolitical interests align with, let's say, globalist geopolitical interests?

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Or is Trump somehow this guy that is, you know, anti-Davos, anti-WEF, et cetera, et cetera?

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I think any time that we try to generalize from individuals into groups,

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we start to run into the problem of overgeneralization.

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So it is not, I think, fair to talk about the administration as a singular unit.

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No, it is composed of various people, various powerful nodes in a vast network.

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And some of those nodes have more power and influence than others,

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but combined, certain less powerful nodes may be able to combine in order to

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overpower some of the more powerful nodes.

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And if people want an inside look at how such operations really work within

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an administration, different factions can fight within the same administration

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for different policies.

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Peter Dale Scott, a veteran, of course, researcher, Peter Dale Scott,

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had a very illustrative example of that in his book On the Road to 9-11.

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There was a chapter about the so-called Vulcans fighting with

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the other faction within the Carter administration, and I can't remember what

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pithy epithet they were given, but at any rate, they were fighting about the

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American foreign policy under Carter,

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for example, and he goes and outlines the different factions and what they wanted

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and who ultimately ended up winning in that fight.

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And of course, we know what eventuated with, say, Brzezinski and Operation Cyclone

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and the funding of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, etc.

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So it doesn't mean that everyone is working on the same page towards the same goal.

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And I think there probably are many, perhaps even most people working at that

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level within an administration,

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within a certain political nation state unit who genuinely believe they are

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working in the interests of their nation state and their nation state's allies.

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But I think there are other probably much more powerful nodes of interest in

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that network who operate above the nation state level and are thinking on that globalist level.

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And it is the interaction of those different things. And when their agendas

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meet, we are more likely to see some sort of grand deep event happen,

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like a 9-11 or what have you.

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Okay. Okay. Last two questions are on the Trump administration.

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And have you heard the latest news from Marco Rubio in a press conference? I have not.

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Let me read you the title. You'll be impressed. Rubio exposes the 50-year plot of,

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Marco Rubio blew the doors open on the 1977 CFR report outlining the controlled

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disintegration of the U.S. economy.

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So should we thank Rubio for this? Because we knew nothing about the CFR before

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he enlightened us today.

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Well, not if you listen to the mainstream news, I guess. Yes,

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I don't know. I'm intrigued.

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I want to know more. I am highly skeptical that this is going to be some sort

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of definitive takedown of the CFR or its machinations, but I'm all ears.

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Okay. I got this from a group on a pretty popular group.

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I think they have like close to half million viewers on YouTube called Promethean

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Updates. Have you ever heard of them?

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The name rings a bell, but I certainly don't follow them consciously, no.

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Yeah, I think they are kind of leftovers from the old, oh, who was the guy that

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was on all the campuses and they'd

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come around and tell you about water projects from Canada and stuff?

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He was kind of a Roosevelt-style populist.

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Yeah, yeah. These are former LaRouches who have, I think, have taken over the

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LaRouche organization.

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And and they're very very pro-Trump these days

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and they say that pro they say that Trump is uh

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extremely in favor of the

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revitalization of the American economy and I want to read you just a couple

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quotes oh by the way do you still write a regular um economics um report you

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used to be international forecaster I used to write the uh the regular um weekly

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editorial for them now I write just my own editorial, The Corbett Report subscriber.

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Okay, gotcha. Well, listen to these two quotes, and then I'll get your comment, and we'll finish up.

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According to this organization, quote, Trumponomics is reviving real economic

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sovereignty, end quote.

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Second quote, Trump isn't just talking, he is reversing deindustrialization on every front.

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So, I mean, that's good news. I'm an American, And I'm looking forward to the

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re-industrialization of America. We need our jobs back.

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Well, first of all, as the Canadian in Japan, I could give the outside perspective

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to say, at the very least, I don't care about America first.

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But actually, given that the general economic understanding of the public is

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that we live on some fixed pie.

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And so you better take as much of that pie as you can for yourself in order to screw everyone else.

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If you end up screwing everyone else, who cares? If that is the general economic

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understanding, then I should be against America first.

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No, it should be Japan first, Canada first, whatever, something like that.

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But that isn't my understanding of economics anyway. Having said that,

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I think that the LaRouche-ite understanding of economics is sadly hobbled by a number of problems,

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and including, I mean, as an example of the symptom of their underlying failure

00:17:52.775 --> 00:17:53.835
to understand economics,

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you will note that LaRouche-ites think that Alexander Hamilton was some great

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defender of America and American interests, and they like the idea of a central

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bank and the United States going into debt in order to finance itself.

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Because that is a good thing for the American system of economics that the LaRoucheites propound.

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So I think that shows a fundamentally flawed epistemology, a fundamentally flawed

00:18:16.955 --> 00:18:19.735
understanding of economics that goes right to the heart of it.

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Having said that, on the other side of things, I am a believer in human freedom

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and that voluntary choices amongst consenting adults is the way forward for

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humanity and that that would be the ultimate thriving of all of humanity,

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including of course the field of economics but if

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you really look into the term economics and what that means and

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where it comes from perhaps that's the entirely wrong way

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of framing what it is that we're interested in so i will i

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will proffer a different word for people out

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there who are interested look this one up it's catallactics and

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if you look up about catallaxy rather than economy you

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will find a very different way of understanding the reconciliation of humans

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that come together in the in the agora the marketplace of old and what that

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means in terms of fostering human cooperative thriving rather than trying to

00:19:10.315 --> 00:19:14.215
reduce things to economic terms so that's that's a little homework project for

00:19:14.215 --> 00:19:15.255
people out there who are interested.

00:19:16.569 --> 00:19:19.389
Thank you. Now I just have to ask another question.

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Of course, you are a big, big fan of voluntarism among individuals.

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And I assume you are also in favor of voluntary interaction among nations too.

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And something that upsets me and surprises me is so many,

00:19:35.189 --> 00:19:39.469
not so many, but a few of my friends who are, let's say, on the freedom dissident

00:19:39.469 --> 00:19:43.609
side, still can't, I don't know,

00:19:43.889 --> 00:19:47.569
lick their chops a bit when they think about how Gas prices might go down if

00:19:47.569 --> 00:19:52.909
we take over Venezuela or something like that with no thought to do the Venezuelan

00:19:52.909 --> 00:19:56.129
people want this, you know, and I have visions.

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I have visions of that that famous American general who wrote war is war is a racket.

00:20:04.009 --> 00:20:08.849
Butler, Smedley Butler saying we shouldn't have our if these countries don't

00:20:08.849 --> 00:20:10.649
want us in there, we shouldn't be there, period.

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Right. Well, again, yes, I am a believer in human freedom and human voluntary

00:20:16.445 --> 00:20:20.885
interaction. But because of that, then I don't talk in terms of nations and

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I don't talk about Venezuela as if it's a singular unit.

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Again, I think that's overgeneralization. So I think the real answer to this

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is understanding and respecting private property amongst individuals.

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And that solves a number of these supposed quandary on the geopolitical space

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or the economic space or what have you, the socio-political space.

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The open border versus closed border debate is a false binary because there,

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of course, the real answer is private borders.

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I own my property and I can decide what happens on it and who is or not allowed on my property.

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I cannot decide what happens on your property because you own that.

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And with private borders, suddenly there isn't the question of this gigantic

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line on a map that's been drawn in some boardroom thousands of miles away from

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us and decided by people based on some contract that we didn't sign.

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No, we own the property that we own and we set the rules and boundaries for our property.

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And that is all that we have the right to do

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and no one else with any shiny badge or hat has

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the right to come and restrict or to permit whatever happens on our own individual

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private property and nor do we have the right to go in and intrude on other

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people so again the question of Venezuela and what it's going to do with its

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oil is not about some thing that's being drafted between individual states?

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No, it's between individual human

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beings and who ultimately owns what property in order to decide that.

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Now, that is an incredibly thorny question because, of course.

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Unraveling all of that means, well, how do we decide at this point in human

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history who gets to decide who owns what natural resources of what parts of the planet?

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And I will permit that and admit that that is not going to be a easily solvable

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problem. But I do know that we are thinking of these problems in the wrong context,

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and thus we will always arrive at the wrong answer.

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Okay. Okay. Well, James, Corbett, thank you so much. We're out of time.

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And this is a quick one, which I'm sad about, but I wish you all the best.

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And please come on again someday. Thank you for having me on.

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We're joined today by the groundbreaking investigative journalist

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and author who has spent the past two

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decades putting mainstream media narratives into the bigger context showing

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the bigger picture of the world it's great to have you back James corbett glad

00:22:51.699 --> 00:22:55.559
to be here thank you for having me well James I'd love to ask you a few questions

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about the latest Epstein file release And maybe to start off this,

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how do you evaluate the credibility of this latest file release with the three million files?

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I, for one, well, that's an interesting question, actually, because I was inclined

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to say that I do not question the credibility of what has been released,

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but I mean that in a specific context.

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I believe that these really are documents that the DOJ has on file and has been

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working with that are related to the Epstein case.

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But having said that, there are, of course, some of the most sensational claims

00:23:33.849 --> 00:23:39.789
and ideas from these files do not stem directly from, say, Jeffrey Epstein's

00:23:39.789 --> 00:23:40.949
personal internal emails.

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It's more like this is a anonymous tip that the FBI received from some anonymous

00:23:46.509 --> 00:23:49.469
person, and it's presented in a document.

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And it's i understand to the average person who's

00:23:52.469 --> 00:23:55.129
just digging through and taking a look here and there they'll see an

00:23:55.129 --> 00:23:57.869
fbi document with a rather salacious claim on

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it and will immediately say oh look here is proof from the

00:24:00.589 --> 00:24:04.069
fbi that such and such an event occurred when actually what they are looking

00:24:04.069 --> 00:24:08.149
at is just an anonymous tip that may or may not have been investigated and may

00:24:08.149 --> 00:24:12.569
or may not have any credibility at all so the evidence itself is credible in

00:24:12.569 --> 00:24:17.949
the sense that yes it's really a document that I trust really did come from the DOJ,

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but that doesn't mean that it actually represents the truth.

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And once you start digging into details like that, you start to see that,

00:24:25.169 --> 00:24:30.029
yes, in a way they could be releasing actual documents, but some of those documents

00:24:30.029 --> 00:24:34.249
may not only not get us closer to the truth, they may actually distract us from the truth.

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So the idea that this could, is in some way, some form of limited hangout is.

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I mean, I think by definition and true, since we know we only have about half

00:24:43.429 --> 00:24:47.509
of the six million pages or so of documents in the DOJ's.

00:24:48.032 --> 00:24:50.912
Epstein files at least what they admit to we know

00:24:50.912 --> 00:24:53.572
that we have only received half of that so we know that this is a

00:24:53.572 --> 00:24:56.872
limited hangout of some variety but i

00:24:56.872 --> 00:24:59.812
have noticed that there are those in the independent media who will poo-poo

00:24:59.812 --> 00:25:04.052
the entire thing everything that is contained in here and generally from what

00:25:04.052 --> 00:25:07.152
i've seen from people who have not spent a single second looking through any

00:25:07.152 --> 00:25:11.772
of these files or weighing the evidence with regards to any of the documents

00:25:11.772 --> 00:25:15.572
unfortunately i wish it were that easy to simply dismiss this,

00:25:15.792 --> 00:25:18.632
say it's a distraction, and move on to something else where I don't have to

00:25:18.632 --> 00:25:21.192
actually sift through documents and do reporting.

00:25:21.332 --> 00:25:26.652
But unfortunately, reality is such that generally, we actually do have to dedicate

00:25:26.652 --> 00:25:31.752
a serious effort to understanding, reporting, connecting dots,

00:25:32.232 --> 00:25:38.732
finding documents, and determining the actual, the worth or lack thereof of

00:25:38.732 --> 00:25:40.332
those documents and the evidence they contain.

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That's a lot of work. And I understand why a lot of people don't want to engage in it.

00:25:43.932 --> 00:25:49.112
But I certainly do think that there is valuable information to be gleaned from

00:25:49.112 --> 00:25:53.152
these documents, even though I am sure it is not the bottom of the Epstein rabbit hole.

00:25:53.772 --> 00:25:57.392
Right. And you've been starting to do that and publish a lot about it already.

00:25:57.772 --> 00:26:02.452
And so maybe to start out with the content of those files, one of the probably

00:26:02.452 --> 00:26:09.892
most horrendous and terrifying parts of the files is what you titled as Epstein's Black Market in babies.

00:26:10.692 --> 00:26:12.612
Can you tell us briefly what that is about?

00:26:13.707 --> 00:26:20.707
So there are unfortunately disturbing pieces of these files, documents, etc.

00:26:20.967 --> 00:26:25.847
That do indicate that at the very least, again, it's not like there is definitive

00:26:25.847 --> 00:26:32.247
proof here, but there are multiple accusations of Epstein and Maxwell and potentially

00:26:32.247 --> 00:26:35.407
others using some of these women, these victims,

00:26:35.687 --> 00:26:37.647
as human incubators.

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And we even have that, for example, from one particularly disturbing document that I had.

00:26:43.287 --> 00:26:47.327
In fact, it was a series of documents of journals of someone who was a victim

00:26:47.327 --> 00:26:50.887
who was undergoing therapy after having been victimized by Epstein,

00:26:51.087 --> 00:26:58.887
who was leaving detailed journal entries in cryptic code about being used as

00:26:58.887 --> 00:27:03.067
a human incubator, talking about flushing the fetus down the toilet and other

00:27:03.067 --> 00:27:05.427
such truly reprehensible things.

00:27:05.427 --> 00:27:10.167
And so when these things are combined together, it certainly does paint a picture.

00:27:10.307 --> 00:27:14.967
And it certainly does paint a picture when combined with some of the other reporting

00:27:14.967 --> 00:27:16.367
that we've known for some time now.

00:27:16.527 --> 00:27:21.527
Last year, I had an extensive article up on Epstein eugenics,

00:27:21.687 --> 00:27:25.347
the plan to seed the human race, talking about that evidence.

00:27:25.527 --> 00:27:29.627
That bit of the Epstein story that did come out in 2019, at least a little bit,

00:27:29.787 --> 00:27:32.127
but was never really thoroughly reported on.

00:27:32.527 --> 00:27:38.087
Talking about the many people who had said that Epstein had talked about seeding

00:27:38.087 --> 00:27:43.247
the human race with his genes in some sort of bizarre breeding project that

00:27:43.247 --> 00:27:46.047
he was trying to operate out of his Zorro ranch in New Mexico.

00:27:46.407 --> 00:27:49.807
And I did some reporting on that last year, talking about the very,

00:27:49.947 --> 00:27:54.707
very many connections between Epstein and eugenics and various scientists,

00:27:54.707 --> 00:27:57.507
the scientific community and we have more of that

00:27:57.507 --> 00:28:00.287
those pieces of that puzzle coming out not only with the

00:28:00.287 --> 00:28:03.487
black market babies story and whatever that might indicate about

00:28:03.487 --> 00:28:08.167
the actual selling of some of these babies but also in the correspondence between

00:28:08.167 --> 00:28:13.307
epstein and some of uh some of the researchers out there who are literally working

00:28:13.307 --> 00:28:17.347
on cloning including human cloning and other such things that were talked about

00:28:17.347 --> 00:28:21.267
in epstein's personal correspondence so there's definitely a bigger,

00:28:21.447 --> 00:28:25.447
bigger story here that I still haven't seen a lot of people reporting on. Wow.

00:28:26.547 --> 00:28:30.127
Now, I'm just going to move on to the next thing already because we only have

00:28:30.127 --> 00:28:34.007
a short time, which would be, could you briefly explain to us what is Pizzagate

00:28:34.007 --> 00:28:38.447
and what do these new Epstein files tell us about Pizzagate?

00:28:38.707 --> 00:28:43.167
So back during the 2016 presidential selection race in the United States,

00:28:43.367 --> 00:28:46.227
people might remember that Hillary Clinton's chief of staff at the time,

00:28:46.227 --> 00:28:48.847
John Podesta was spear phished.

00:28:49.167 --> 00:28:53.607
Essentially, he received an email to his Gmail account saying your account is

00:28:53.607 --> 00:28:57.367
being hacked from Ukraine, so you better go change your password and providing a link.

00:28:58.755 --> 00:29:02.195
Podesta, being the idiot that he is, apparently asked his IT team,

00:29:02.295 --> 00:29:06.255
is this legitimate? And they said yes. And so he went and changed his password.

00:29:06.455 --> 00:29:10.395
And lo and behold, we have the hack of the Podesta emails, or at least that's

00:29:10.395 --> 00:29:14.355
the story that we've gotten about where that hack of emails came from.

00:29:14.895 --> 00:29:19.535
Whatever the case may be, in that email trench is where we started,

00:29:19.855 --> 00:29:25.115
where certain people started to find evidence of a code of sorts,

00:29:25.295 --> 00:29:30.695
where pizza was apparently being used in some sort of cryptic reference scheme

00:29:30.695 --> 00:29:32.615
towards some sort of pedophile sex ring.

00:29:32.815 --> 00:29:37.875
And this was tied back to a pizza parlor in Washington, D.C.

00:29:38.035 --> 00:29:44.375
And there's a lot of strange, strange connections and strange social media posts

00:29:44.375 --> 00:29:47.235
and other such things in that story.

00:29:47.355 --> 00:29:50.475
But people may or may not remember that story from about a decade ago,

00:29:50.675 --> 00:29:55.375
which culminated in an actual shooting taking place at that pizza parlor as

00:29:55.375 --> 00:29:59.735
someone came in convinced he was going to uncover the whole incident and ended

00:29:59.735 --> 00:30:03.295
up shooting a server with a bullet somehow and getting arrested.

00:30:03.635 --> 00:30:07.415
And from that point on, of course, any discussion of Pizzagate was absolutely

00:30:07.415 --> 00:30:12.035
derided as total deranged conspiracy theory of theorizing of the worst sort

00:30:12.035 --> 00:30:16.795
and probably part of some sort of Russian election interference campaign or

00:30:16.795 --> 00:30:17.755
something along those lines.

00:30:17.895 --> 00:30:21.535
At least that was the way that it was portrayed in the mainstream media and

00:30:21.535 --> 00:30:26.655
lovingly aped by people in certain online fora,

00:30:26.915 --> 00:30:32.875
like Reddit and other very establishment internet locales, until this latest

00:30:32.875 --> 00:30:34.335
release of Epstein emails,

00:30:34.575 --> 00:30:39.815
which shows, again, a strange compulsion of Epstein and his correspondence to

00:30:39.815 --> 00:30:42.915
talk about and evaluate pizza in extremely...

00:30:43.946 --> 00:30:46.706
Odd and puzzling ways that

00:30:46.706 --> 00:30:50.206
don't make sense if you are talking about literal food um I

00:30:50.206 --> 00:30:53.046
pointed out some of them in the recent article i wrote 10 things

00:30:53.046 --> 00:30:58.246
I learned uh from the Epstein files where I link to some of the message chains

00:30:58.246 --> 00:31:01.946
that Epstein was involved in where people were talking about butt pizza and

00:31:01.946 --> 00:31:06.446
things like this the pizza monster talking about a pregnant woman and that's

00:31:06.446 --> 00:31:11.006
the pizza and things along these lines again people can look into this for themselves and And C,

00:31:11.126 --> 00:31:13.346
that there certainly seems to be a strange...

00:31:14.320 --> 00:31:18.100
Code of some sort going on here. And whether this was, perhaps,

00:31:18.380 --> 00:31:22.380
I suppose, Epstein's defenders, if such people exist, could say that this is

00:31:22.380 --> 00:31:27.800
maybe those people taking up this strange internet's crazy conspiracy theory

00:31:27.800 --> 00:31:30.560
and making light of it or something along those lines.

00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.080
But I would invite people to take a look through the emails themselves and come

00:31:34.080 --> 00:31:37.540
to their own conclusion about what these many, many, many references to pizza

00:31:37.540 --> 00:31:44.240
and grape soda, only you and I will know what that means and other such cryptic references might mean.

00:31:45.180 --> 00:31:48.260
Now, which persons within Epstein's network

00:31:48.260 --> 00:31:52.540
stand out to you as especially noteworthy? I know that's a hard one.

00:31:52.660 --> 00:31:57.240
There are many, but pick the one or two best.

00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:02.380
Way too many. Yeah. No, it's an excellent question because we do need to start

00:32:02.380 --> 00:32:04.860
looking at individuals and the way that they're connected.

00:32:05.020 --> 00:32:08.320
And one that I just randomly stumbled upon was Kathy Rumler,

00:32:08.460 --> 00:32:11.680
which was not a name that was in my mental Rolodex.

00:32:11.760 --> 00:32:15.580
I had never really thought about Kathy Rumler or who is this person.

00:32:15.700 --> 00:32:19.460
But I did point in my episode on this just last week,

00:32:19.580 --> 00:32:24.020
I pointed out that there was a correspondence between Epstein and this Kathy

00:32:24.020 --> 00:32:28.820
Rumler talking about the possibility of genetically engineering pigs to have

00:32:28.820 --> 00:32:32.880
non-cloven hoofs so they would be kosher and thus, I guess,

00:32:33.260 --> 00:32:35.440
edible by Jews and Muslims, I guess.

00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.320
Something along those lines. It was just such a strange email that I pointed it out.

00:32:39.900 --> 00:32:43.220
And from that, I started to follow the thread of, well, who is this Kathy Rumler?

00:32:43.360 --> 00:32:48.860
Well, as it turns out, she was in the Obama administration back in the early

00:32:48.860 --> 00:32:53.000
2010s until she was forced out

00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:58.100
or she left to go into private practice and ended up at Goldman Sachs as,

00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:02.740
I believe, a legal assistant or lawyer on their team and was apparently at one

00:33:02.740 --> 00:33:08.100
point being considered to go back into the Obama administration as the attorney general, but

00:33:08.432 --> 00:33:14.112
Apparently, that didn't pan out because, as it turns out, she had been involved in that.

00:33:14.232 --> 00:33:18.492
Remember that story about in Colombia, there were some Secret Service agents

00:33:18.492 --> 00:33:22.992
and other White House officials who had gone ahead of the Obama administration

00:33:22.992 --> 00:33:26.772
and some conference or something that was taking place in Colombia,

00:33:26.772 --> 00:33:30.392
and they all got busted for escorts and prostitutes, etc.

00:33:30.392 --> 00:33:34.712
Well, apparently, some of the latest correspondence shows that Kathy Rumler

00:33:34.712 --> 00:33:37.412
was involved in that and in covering up what had happened there,

00:33:37.592 --> 00:33:42.632
etc., and was consulting with Epstein on PR advice about how to handle the PR

00:33:42.632 --> 00:33:44.032
fallout from this, etc.,

00:33:44.306 --> 00:33:47.066
So, again, there's some weird connections going on there.

00:33:47.446 --> 00:33:52.626
Long story short, apparently Goldman Sachs has just sacked Kathy Rumler from their legal team.

00:33:53.126 --> 00:33:58.826
We've heard, of course, by now about Peter Mandelson, the ex-British ambassador to the U.S.

00:33:58.966 --> 00:34:04.106
From the U.K., who had to give up his seat in the House of Lords over the disgrace

00:34:04.106 --> 00:34:05.106
that's happened right now.

00:34:05.106 --> 00:34:09.746
And now there are questions about current UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer and

00:34:09.746 --> 00:34:13.966
what he knew and when and why he overlooked what was already known about the

00:34:13.966 --> 00:34:15.406
Mandelson-Epstein relationship.

00:34:15.406 --> 00:34:21.046
Um, of course though, I would think that probably of more relevance are Epstein's

00:34:21.046 --> 00:34:24.326
ties to Israeli intelligence of various sorts.

00:34:24.606 --> 00:34:29.026
For example, um, his hosting the Ehud Barak's, uh,

00:34:29.226 --> 00:34:33.746
personal assistant and a former Israeli military intelligence officer in his

00:34:33.746 --> 00:34:37.366
Manhattan apartment for weeks at a time, along with Epstein's many,

00:34:37.446 --> 00:34:40.366
many, many relations to the Israeli government, to Ehud Barak,

00:34:40.546 --> 00:34:43.006
to various deals that were being done.

00:34:43.006 --> 00:34:45.846
Um there was the cryptic or the

00:34:45.846 --> 00:34:48.646
interesting not even cryptic very out in the open

00:34:48.646 --> 00:34:51.626
reference that um Epstein made to Peter Thiel saying that

00:34:51.626 --> 00:34:54.246
as you know I am the uh I'm a

00:34:54.246 --> 00:34:59.346
representative of the Rothschilds um was that meant in jest or was that meant

00:34:59.346 --> 00:35:02.766
seriously well he certainly did have a relationship with the Rothschilds both

00:35:02.766 --> 00:35:08.306
Arianne to Rothschild of the Swiss Rothschild family in particular as well as

00:35:08.306 --> 00:35:13.126
um the Rothschild group generally I can't remember particularly which banking arm it was,

00:35:13.266 --> 00:35:17.746
but one in which he had a $20 million contract with handling some of their funds.

00:35:18.366 --> 00:35:21.986
So again, there's that whole thread to unravel. And then there's Epstein's many,

00:35:22.066 --> 00:35:27.246
many ties to the big tech broligarchs like Elon Musk, like, um,

00:35:27.466 --> 00:35:30.306
Reid Hoffman, uh, people of that ilk.

00:35:30.326 --> 00:35:34.686
And now we get to watch Musk and Hoffman tweeting at each other in some tweet

00:35:34.686 --> 00:35:40.486
war about who is more guilty in the Epstein files, interestingly. And, um,

00:35:40.571 --> 00:35:44.051
There is, as I said before, that interesting connection between Epstein and

00:35:44.051 --> 00:35:48.311
a whole host of scientists and people of interesting background.

00:35:48.531 --> 00:35:52.951
Of course, the big name scientists like Stephen Hawking, but also some interesting

00:35:52.951 --> 00:35:54.491
scientists like George Church,

00:35:54.711 --> 00:35:58.731
who probably most people don't know, but is probably one of the most,

00:35:58.951 --> 00:36:04.551
the current operating scientists who is most closely associated with modern day eugenics.

00:36:04.551 --> 00:36:07.751
So again there's there's a lot to explore and

00:36:07.751 --> 00:36:12.051
unfortunately it is too much for any one person to handle or to synthesize which

00:36:12.051 --> 00:36:15.751
is why i think this has to be part of a collective open source effort to really

00:36:15.751 --> 00:36:20.491
start you know reporting on these different data points and and why do you think

00:36:20.491 --> 00:36:27.051
the establishment like the u.s government put out these files uh right now who benefits from that.

00:36:27.850 --> 00:36:33.670
Well, again, since we know that half, at least half of the tranche of documents

00:36:33.670 --> 00:36:38.130
has not been released, then the real question is what has not been released

00:36:38.130 --> 00:36:39.810
and why has that not been released?

00:36:39.930 --> 00:36:42.110
I think that's probably the more operative side of the question,

00:36:42.250 --> 00:36:47.110
because there's no doubt that putting out literally millions and millions of

00:36:47.110 --> 00:36:53.350
pages of documents, even if they are all 100% true, well, here you go. Here's the tidal wave.

00:36:53.490 --> 00:36:57.390
And I think that if there is a strategy here, it may be the tidal wave strategy.

00:36:57.670 --> 00:37:01.070
Here's a tidal wave of documents. Of course, it's not the half of the documents

00:37:01.070 --> 00:37:04.890
that we want to keep to ourselves, but here's half. It's a few million pages.

00:37:05.310 --> 00:37:10.910
Have fun. And some people will fall under the bus, but the oligarchy itself will survive.

00:37:11.050 --> 00:37:14.330
That might be one of the factors at play. Of course, this is all speculative

00:37:14.330 --> 00:37:18.190
because I am not privy to whatever decisions are being made on the inside of

00:37:18.190 --> 00:37:22.490
all of this, but it certainly seems that there is a, at the very least,

00:37:22.570 --> 00:37:25.690
a sort of flood the zone technique that is being deployed here,

00:37:25.850 --> 00:37:28.870
where they are trying to put out so much information that,

00:37:29.070 --> 00:37:32.810
in a sense, it will overwhelm people who are trying to put these pieces together.

00:37:33.050 --> 00:37:37.890
I think to the extent that this is a coordinated or crafted plan,

00:37:38.070 --> 00:37:40.670
I would assume that that is the strategy that's being employed.

00:37:40.870 --> 00:37:44.450
Rather than asking, why are they putting it out now? It's more,

00:37:44.670 --> 00:37:47.490
why are they putting it out in this way? Right.

00:37:47.690 --> 00:37:50.390
And what are we expected to do with that information?

00:37:50.930 --> 00:37:55.850
Wonderful. Maybe one last question, because there are the believers in QAnon

00:37:55.850 --> 00:38:00.710
and, you know, him, them, that secret military operation handling Trump there.

00:38:01.390 --> 00:38:05.310
They're really happy about this because this proves that QAnon is right.

00:38:05.450 --> 00:38:08.170
And Trump is our man. And he is, you know, he's draining the swamp.

00:38:08.310 --> 00:38:10.170
He's exposing the establishment.

00:38:12.070 --> 00:38:17.130
I mean, what do we know about Trump being complicit or implicated in this,

00:38:17.170 --> 00:38:21.470
and what is your statement, what would you say to these QAnon followers?

00:38:23.402 --> 00:38:26.902
I have certainly seen the online chatter about QAnon was right.

00:38:27.182 --> 00:38:32.522
And so I am tempted to say QAnon was wrong, but that's not even correct.

00:38:32.742 --> 00:38:36.362
I would say QAnon was right in the exact same way a broken clock is right twice

00:38:36.362 --> 00:38:40.322
a day, insofar as it is incidentally right about some of the things that may

00:38:40.322 --> 00:38:45.582
have been claimed under the rubric of this QAnon operation, whatever that was.

00:38:45.722 --> 00:38:50.882
But QAnon was wrong about many, many, many, many very specific identifiable

00:38:50.882 --> 00:38:54.382
things that were said, at least under the name of that QAnon account,

00:38:54.582 --> 00:38:58.742
originally on 4chan and then 8chan and wherever else it ended up online.

00:38:58.962 --> 00:39:03.462
And I went through that in my documentary on hopium, a brief history of hopium.

00:39:03.582 --> 00:39:07.722
So if people want to find out about the details of that, go to corbettreport.com/hopium.

00:39:07.822 --> 00:39:13.222
And I go through some, just a few of the very specific things that were completely

00:39:13.222 --> 00:39:16.942
wrong, going right back to, of course, the very first Q drop,

00:39:17.162 --> 00:39:21.522
so-called, on 4chan that was talking about how Hillary Clinton was under arrest, guys,

00:39:21.782 --> 00:39:25.042
and everything's going down and it's all happening on such and such a date.

00:39:25.222 --> 00:39:26.482
And guess what happened on that date?

00:39:26.862 --> 00:39:31.382
Absolutely nothing. And they were wrong over and over and over about all of

00:39:31.382 --> 00:39:36.122
those specific predictions of various people being arrested at various times and it's over.

00:39:36.282 --> 00:39:38.402
The deep state is done, et cetera.

00:39:38.762 --> 00:39:44.962
Wrong, wrong, wrong, again, wrong on every count. Only right when QAnon broke

00:39:44.962 --> 00:39:46.862
the news about Epstein was

00:39:47.053 --> 00:39:53.253
For example, just one example, at least three years after I reported about Epstein

00:39:53.253 --> 00:39:57.513
in a 2015 podcast I had about political pedophilia, where I was talking about

00:39:57.513 --> 00:40:01.073
Epstein and the Prince Andrew story and everything at that time.

00:40:01.213 --> 00:40:04.733
But I certainly take no credit for breaking that story because there were people

00:40:04.733 --> 00:40:08.613
like Nick Bryant, who's been on this case for decades and was in fact the person

00:40:08.613 --> 00:40:13.293
who actually released the Black Book and the flight logs in the first place online.

00:40:13.593 --> 00:40:18.333
So people like that were right. Nick Bryant was right.

00:40:18.673 --> 00:40:22.553
QAnon just happened to pick up and regurgitate some of those pieces of information

00:40:22.553 --> 00:40:23.733
that it took from other people.

00:40:23.873 --> 00:40:27.013
And now people are saying QAnon was right. That is wrong.

00:40:27.173 --> 00:40:32.553
And QAnon was wrong about everything important that QAnon was claiming about

00:40:32.553 --> 00:40:35.553
the white hats on the inside who are coming to save the day.

00:40:35.733 --> 00:40:42.253
And don't worry, guys, Trump 1.0 back in 2016, 17, that's the end of the deep state.

00:40:42.313 --> 00:40:45.413
And we don't have to worry about this anymore. The good guys have taken over.

00:40:45.593 --> 00:40:51.413
Oh, wait, that was all total nonsense, total rubbish meant to keep the people

00:40:51.413 --> 00:40:55.213
placated and to stop them from actually demanding justice.

00:40:55.593 --> 00:41:00.373
And so I hope that the the the real thing that we learned from this is QAnon

00:41:00.373 --> 00:41:04.833
was wrong about everything that mattered and was only right when it was plagiarizing

00:41:04.833 --> 00:41:07.553
the work of real researchers. Great.

00:41:08.293 --> 00:41:13.753
Where would you send people the two or three best independent resources to understand

00:41:13.753 --> 00:41:16.693
the Epstein network and Epstein himself better?

00:41:17.229 --> 00:41:21.789
Uh, I would definitely say that people should be familiar with the work of Whitney Webb.

00:41:21.929 --> 00:41:24.729
She, of course, wrote the two-volume One Nation Under Blackmail,

00:41:24.889 --> 00:41:31.109
which is well over a thousand pages of densely worded and extensively footnoted

00:41:31.109 --> 00:41:35.369
information, literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of references and links.

00:41:35.849 --> 00:41:39.349
Um, pointing to not, of course, not only to the Epstein story,

00:41:39.489 --> 00:41:46.969
but the window into the larger idea of blackmail and espionage and underworld of crime and.

00:41:47.229 --> 00:41:50.329
Organized crime and how these things tie into political

00:41:50.329 --> 00:41:53.949
machinery etc it's an incredibly documented

00:41:53.949 --> 00:41:58.089
voluminous work and from there of course if people are interested they can check

00:41:58.089 --> 00:42:01.589
out of course not only Whitney Webb's work at unlimited hangout but my interviews

00:42:01.589 --> 00:42:06.989
with her on this subject and uh if I may toot my own horn a little bit I would

00:42:06.989 --> 00:42:11.709
again send people to not only my recent podcast episode an article on this subject

00:42:11.709 --> 00:42:13.349
about what I learned from the Epstein files,

00:42:13.589 --> 00:42:18.349
but also that previous reporting I was talking about with regards to Epstein

00:42:18.349 --> 00:42:20.409
eugenics, the plan to seed the human race.

00:42:20.609 --> 00:42:24.069
Because again, I think that's an incredibly important part of this that hasn't

00:42:24.069 --> 00:42:25.589
been adequately explored.

00:42:25.609 --> 00:42:31.409
But one other exploration research that I think deserves highlighting is a recent

00:42:31.409 --> 00:42:33.969
post by Sayer G of Green Med Info,

00:42:34.069 --> 00:42:36.829
who was doing the deep dive on these

00:42:36.829 --> 00:42:40.749
new Epstein documents and what they show about the Epstein/

00:42:40.749 --> 00:42:43.969
Gates/Rockefeller nexus

00:42:43.969 --> 00:42:47.549
in the pandemic infrastructure that

00:42:47.549 --> 00:42:50.849
was being set up in the 2000s and the 2010s and

00:42:50.849 --> 00:42:54.949
there are documents in this new release of documents that are that show more

00:42:54.949 --> 00:43:00.349
about how that came together and how pandemics were weaponized and financialized

00:43:00.349 --> 00:43:04.129
in order to make a lot of money for certain well-placed individuals so that's

00:43:04.129 --> 00:43:08.269
an incredibly important research project that CRG has been undertaking there.

00:43:08.649 --> 00:43:11.829
Well, thank you very much, James, for this dense information.

00:43:11.829 --> 00:43:13.689
We'll definitely link all of that below the video.

00:43:14.303 --> 00:43:17.883
So everybody can go do his own deep dive into this, as you've said before.

00:43:18.263 --> 00:43:21.283
Thanks so much for coming on and sharing your insights into this. Thank you.

