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via Antijantepodden.no: Award-winning investigative and independent journalist, James Corbett at corbettreport.com, has been investigating the power structures of the world since 2007. He has seen the preparations of a biosecurity state taking place for more than a decade, and he is concerned about where the COVID-19 crisis is taking us. In this episode, he explains the origins and ideology of technocracy, influential international organisations, Agenda 2030, the World Economic Forum and how they are aiming for absolute control over the population. Corbett highlights that, rather than being concerned about what “they are doing to us,” one should form alternate systems where one can be self-sufficient and prosper regardless of the technocratic prison state that is being formed.
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Links to sources (in mentioned order):
• corbettreport.com: “Biosecurity”
• corbettreport.com: Episode 086 – Medical Martial Law
• corbettreport.com: “(2001) anthrax (attacks)”
• Search: “Model State Emergency Health Powers Act”
• WHO: International Health Regulations
• Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC)
• (Rapporter knuser troverdigheten til norske helsemyndigheter og WHO etter svineinfluensa-pandemien som aldri kom)
• Wolfgang Wodarg
• WHO Changed Definition of Influenza Pandemic
◦ 2008 definition
◦ 2009 definition
• WHO contributors for 2020
• corbettreport.com: COVID-911: From Homeland Security to Biosecurity
• WHO: Biosecurity – An integrated approach to manage risk to human, animal and plant life and health
• Search: “Freedom Convoy”
• Agustin Carstens speaking at IMF live-streem
◦ “We don’t know who’s using a $100 bill today and we don’t know who’s using a 1,000 peso bill today. The key difference with the CBDC is the central bank will have absolute control on the rules and regulations that will determine the use of that expression of central bank liability, and also we will have the technology to enforce that.” – Agustin Carstens
• corbettreport.com: “Technocracy”
• archive.org: Technocracy Inc.
• archive.org: Howard Scott
• archive.org: M. King Hubbert
• Hubbert’s Peak Theory
• corbettreport.com: How & Why Big Oil Conquered The World
• David Rockefeller’s book ‘Memoirs’ – Unashamed Predatory Globalist
• Bank for International Settlements
• World Health Organization
• Financial Stability Board
• World Economic Forum
• corbettreport.com: Meet the World Economic Forum
• Klaus Schwab’s 2016 interview about implanting microchips
• corbettreport.com: “Eugenics”
• stanford.edu: Eugenics
• Search: “Dysgenics”
• corbettreport.com: “Transhumanism”
• WEF: “In 2030 You’ll Own Nothing & You’ll Be Happy!”
• Forum of Young Global Leaders
• (Crown Prince Haakon and Crown Princess Mette-Marit – members of Young Global Leaders)
• Council on Foreign Relations
• Royal Institute of International Affairs / Chatham House
• David Rothkopf – Superclass: The Global Power Elite and the World They Are Making
• corbettreport.com: Agenda 2030
• UN: The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development
• UN: The 17 goals for Sustainable Development
• SDG Goal 16.9
• Aadhaar – Unique Identification Authority of India
• search: “Aadhaar system”
• George Orwell – 1984
• corbettreport.com: “#SolutionsWatch”
• corbettreport.com: The Bystander Effect
Opptaksdato: 2022-01-31
Publiseringsdato: 2022-02-04
Good old Norway ! What have you become ?
Gro Harlem Bruntland , earlier prime minister in Inc, NO ( Labor )
Jens Stoltenberg, Now, head !! of NATO, earlier prime minister of Inc, NO ( Labor ) , has accepted to be the chief of the Inc, NO central bank !
Camilla Stoltenberg – ( sister of Jens ) – head of Inc, NO ( Norwegian Institute of Public Health ) ( kind of CDC ). – Earlier Rockefeller Institute !
Papa Torvald Stoltenberg — Kosovo hero !!! ( labor )
None of these persons, are connected to Rothschild & Rockefeller hint , hint! I would say, they are deep in their pockets.
As Clif High calls them, Insects in Inc, NO
These people loves Tony B-liar, the Clinton Inc. Biden, Obongo.
And there are a lot of other critters, here in Norway, with the same stain, but that is a too long story.
Links :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gro_Harlem_Brundtland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoltenberg_(Norwegian_family)
And other critters :
Terje Røed Larsen ( labor ) , follower of Epstein. Where is he now ? UN ? No can not be !!
:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terje_R%C3%B8d-Larsen
All of it stinks to high heaven, but the Norwegians, used to “lutefisk ” and ” gammel ost = old cheese”, seems not to register anything.
The prime minster now : Jonas Gahr Støre ( labor ) with old money, from Germany during the ww2 ( producing iron for them ) :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Gahr_St%C3%B8re
What could go wrong for this nation of vikings ?????
yoR
What could go wrong? Well, right now as we have gone from paying the lowest electricity prices i europe to paying the highest ones, and with more Norwegians being provoked by the lockdowns than our msm will admit, there are a lot of usually quiet guys going around with their fists in their pockets, being angry, as it was written on the excellent website Steigan.no. And sometimes there are comments like «we could solve this problem over the night». Msm claims that the most profiled people among our health authorities have been threatened on their lives. I hope it will not become violent, that would have a lot of negative consequences. And although a few too bad kings were removed in revolts by the people, that has not been working well after the 17th century. I believe people are really waking up to how much we are lied to by msm and politicians through the power crisis, so it is difficult to say what will happen when many of us have to pay $1000-2000 pr month in the winter, and probably for years to come, and maybe even more than now.
Definitely ‘red-pilled’ the lovely podcast host. I liked your answer to her question of ‘Why would they do these things?” (paraphrased), but the real answers are in the Bible. These people may not realize or maybe they do, but they are working out God’s plan for the judgment of Satan. Unbelieving humans are simply tools to bring in a world government that is described in detail in the Bible, including slavery, consumerism, pandemics, and ‘natural’ disasters that will be blamed on human climate change. Because mankind as a whole has rejected God’s authority, they are reaping the consequences. I feel sorry for every country that does not have it’s own oil source. The ‘energy transition’ is going to be VERY PAINFUL, even deadly to millions who will starve when the food shortages are CREATED by the transition. Stay strong in the faith. Trials are coming fast.
Gosh! Mr. Corbett! After all these years you never cease to amaze me! I had no idea you were proficient in Norwegian!!
James, I hope your stomach ache has passed by now…! I’m a native Norwegian (living in the UK), and would definitely give your parting comment a pass grade – well done! Regardless of that, thanks very much for sharing this interview with us. It’s a brilliant overview of the whole dastardly agenda of the insane technocritters, and should hopefully wake a few more people up, so I will share it with my contacts in Norway. Thanks also to the interviewer who was very good. She asked very intriguing, intelligent and probing questions, and actually let you speak without interrupting you, which is something that seems more of a rarity these days. All in all, a very inspiring listening experience!
Laughing Buddha says:
“Thanks also to the interviewer who was very good. She asked very intriguing, intelligent and probing questions, and actually let you speak without interrupting you, which is something that seems more of a rarity these days. All in all, a very inspiring listening experience!”
I loved listening to this!
LINKS !
The links in the shownotes are impressive!
What a great resource!
Also, Corbett links to the REDPILL SERIES
https://www.corbettreport.com/tag/redpill/
Very much enjoyed this interview, your very well spoken James and the insight is wonderful.
I especially liked your comment at the end that speaks to the resilience of people and how the powers that shouldn’t be fail to understand this basic human trait.
The overreach we are currently living, in my opinion, perfectly speaks to this point. These technocrats do not understand the limits people have in tolerance to this top down enforcement of medical martial law.
The evidence of that for myself is all around me. People in Canada are truly beginning to express doubt and question the “official” narrative. This includes vaccinated and non vaccinated friends and acquaintances of mine.
The battle is far from over as we well know, but it’s truly amazing and inspirational to be a part of.
In Lak’ech
Related to the discussion during “Interview 1697 – James Corbett Redpills the Norwegians on the Global Conspiracy”…
Feb 5th and 7th – via Technocracy News
By Jacob Nordangård at Pharos
World Economic Forum’s “Young Global Leaders” Revealed
https://www.technocracy.news/world-economic-forums-young-global-leaders-revealed/
EXCERPT
In 1992, Klaus Schwab and World Economic Forum launched a program initially called Global Leaders of Tomorrow. In 2004, this program was turned into the Forum for Young Global Leaders (covered in book by author of article)…
…Klaus Schwab: The network creates a force for worldwide influence through the combination of the individual skills and resources of its members.…
…As Klaus Schwab says in the introductory quote, it has become very successful. Already in the first year, 1992, a number of highly influential candidates were elected.
Among 200 selected were global profiles such as Angela Merkel, Tony Blair, Nicolas Sarkozy, Bill Gates, Bono, Richard Branson (Virgin), Jorma Ollila (Shell Oil), and José Manuel Barroso (President of the European Commission 2004–2014)…
More examples of influential Young Global Leaders
Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden
Crown Prince Haakon of Norway
Crown Prince Fredrik of Denmark
Prince Jaime de Bourbon de Parme, Netherlands
Princess Reema Bint Bandar Al-Saud, Ambassador for Saudi-Arabia in USA
Jacinda Arden, Prime Minister, New Zeeland
Alexander De Croo, Prime Minister, Belgium
Emmanuel Macron, President, France
Sanna Marin, Prime Minister, Finland
Carlos Alvarado Quesada, President, Costa Rica
Faisal Alibrahim, Minister of Economy and Planning, Saudi Arabia
Shauna Aminath, Minister of Environment, Climate Change and Technology, Maldives
Ida Auken, MP, former Minister of Environment, Denmark (author to the infamous article “Welcome To 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better”)
Annalena Baerbock, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Leader of Alliance 90/Die Grünen, Germany
Kamissa Camara, Minister of the Digital Economy and Planning, Mali
Ugyen Dorji, Minister of Domestic Affairs, Bhutan
Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Canada
Martín Guzmán, Minister of Finance, Argentina
Muhammad Hammad Azhar, Minister of Energy, Pakistan
Paula Ingabire, Minister of Information and communications technology and Innovation, Rwanda
Ronald Lamola, Minister of Justice and Correctional Services, South Africa
Birgitta Ohlson, Minister for European Union Affairs 2010–2014, Sweden
Mona Sahlin, Party Leader of the Social Democrats 2007–2011, Sweden
Stav Shaffir, Leader of the Green Party, Israel
Vera Daves de Sousa, Minister of Finance, Angola
Leonardo Di Caprio, actor and Climate Activist
(…continued…)
(…continuing…)
Mattias Klum, photographer and Environmentalist
Jack Ma, Founder of Alibaba
Larry Page, Founder of Google
Ricken Patel, Founder of Avaaz
David de Rothschild, adventurer and Environmentalist
Jimmy Wale, Founder of Wikipedia
Jacob Wallenberg, Chairman of Investor
Niklas Zennström, Founder of Skype…
…Partners for Global Leaders of Tomorrow in 2000 were large global companies such as The Coca Cola Company, Ernst & Young, Volkswagen, and BP Amoco. These could contribute to the agenda by “playing an active role in developing and implementing the concept of the GLT project. The partners can therefore actively participate in the development of GLT programs; representatives of the partner companies as well as their guests are invited to GLT meetings .. ” Since the Global Leaders of Tomorrow was turned into Young Global Leaders 2004, partners such as the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Google, and JPMorganChase (with alumni from the program) have also participated as sponsors…
…In addition, leading multinational investment management corporations such as BlackRock, led by the World Economic Forum’s own Larry Fink, have constantly moved their positions forward.
German economist and journalist Ernst Wolff believes that many of the national leaders included in the Young Global Leader program have been selected for their willingness to carry out the tough agenda of lockdowns in recent years without asking any questions, and that their impending failure (as evidenced by in a growing dissatisfaction of the masses) will be used as an excuse to create a new form of Global Government where the old nation states become largely obsolete. A new global digital currency with Universal Basic Income (UBI) can then be gradually introduced to replace our doomed monetary system.[3] This conclusion partly coincides with my own….
Interesting link from Technocracy News & Trends, HRS.
Ah, but there’s something about Patrick Wood that’s a little unsettling, which is why I was humored by one of the commenters below this featured article by the Swedish scholar, Jacob Nordangård.
elle writes:
“WHERE ARE THE AMERICAN NAMES!? I see none. Why is that when we know that Americans should be on the list, too? Gates? No, we already know what he is. He’s a tyrant, totalitarian, mass murderer of great fame from Africa to America and a eugenicist. Being a YGL is the least of our worries with that creepoid.
I want to see the other names.”
Patrick Wood replies:
“The author is from Europe and is focussing on that. Bill Gates is US. So are Larry Page, Mark Zuckerberg, Leonardo Di Caprio, Thomson Reuters Corporation.”
Fair enough. But, Wood’s list of American names is not terribly extensive. The article attributes Klaus Schwab as saying – ‘But what we are really proud of now…is that we penetrate the(government)cabinets’. Where is Wood’s list of American government infiltrators?
Wood’s close collaborator and fellow researcher, the late Antony C. Sutton, was a former Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institute for War, Peace and Revolution at Stanford University, which if you peruse its website has American exceptionalism/militarism written all over it. Check out – About Hoover: https://www.hoover.org/about – Of course, it features the neocon Condoleezza Rice talking about Hoover’s purpose and values. As if we need to hear about “values” from a disgusting Bush cabinet war hawk like her….
My point is, when it comes to Patrick Wood, I can’t help visioning a little 3D chess being played on our behalf.
For what it’s worth, it seems just about all of Corbett’s fundamental arguments in this interview are expressed in Patrick Wood’s 2010 newsletter:
https://newswithviews.com/Wood/patrick134.htm
Europe is the first target.
It is my speculation that a primary World Economic Forum goal is to first “take down Europe” as it exists today, and to instill a more United Nations type globalist control.
I hypothesize that we will see the collapse of the Euro, along with pension funds, government bonds and the like in Europe. Europe will be a major trainwreck, and people will really own nothing.
Europe’s current policies almost ensure this objective of a ‘failed’ European Union.
This ordeal may take 5 years.
This year, we should gain some insight as the Federal Reserve raises rates in the coming months.
But all this is only my theorizing at this time with the data I know.
And it would seem Europe is targeted by their own aristocracy, aided and abetted by American big tech corporatocracy, as evidenced by Wood calling out the likes of Larry Page, media giant Thomson Reuters, Zuckerberg, etc. Financial megaliths like Blackstone. And who is/was the hidden, helping hand behind high tec, like google, nurtured from infancy? The developmental arm of US military, perhaps?
Seems all very round-robin. The ultra repressive Chinese model being no doubt close to Schwab’s heart, and many others; Vladimir Putin, himself, having once been a YGL (Young Global Leader)as the Nordangård article claims: The East and the West are but the worst and best of “Frenemies.”
Who is creating the need for bio-security and techno-surveillance?
Frenemies. They all seem to be in it together.
In fact, one has to search high and low to try to find states that haven’t been bought and sold who remain out of the loop.
I just don’t know.
Afghanistan? Somalia?
God only knows.
Another article naming more Young Global Leaders, including Americans. I found it because I was curious about Jeffrey Zients (US White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator) He seems the type and sure enough, he is on the list. Along with Leana Wen of CNN, no surprise there. Here are a few more.
https://dailynewsbreak.org/unmasked-klaus-schwabs-traitors-a-more-complete-list-meet-the-young-global-leaders-class-of-2021-you-dont-know-their-names-now-but-you-will/
Peter Buttigieg (US secretary of transportation since 2021)
Chelsea Clinton (Clinton Foundation board member)
Huma Abedin (Hillary Clinton aide)
Nikki Haley (US ambassador to the UN, 2017-2018)
Samantha Power (US ambassador to the UN, 2013-2017, USAID Administrator, since 2021)
Ian Bremmer (founder of Eurasia Group)
Bill Browder (US-British financier)
Jonathan Soros (son of George Soros)
Kenneth Roth (director of Human Rights Watch)
Paul Lawrence Summers (US Secretary of the Treasury, 1999-2001)
Black Lives Matter co-founder Alicia Garza
Sanjay Gupta (CNN chief medical correspondent)
Andrew Ross Sorkin (New York Times financial columnist)
Thomas Friedman (New York Times columnist)
George Stephanopoulos (ABC News)
Lachlan Murdoch (CEO of Fox Corporation, co-chair of News Corp.)
This is how a unified global response happens in lock-step!
Conspiracy is Confirmed
Correction. Sorry everyone, the list I posted from this article is incorrect… misinformation I guess. I should have double checked and verified that info here https://www.younggloballeaders.org/community?page=33&x=21&y=16 before I shared it. Leana Wen and Peter Buttigieg were Young Global Leaders, but Jeffry Zeints and others I copied from the article are not…
More Names…
UPDATE 2/20/2022
By Roger Koops via The Brownstone Institute
The Next Step for the World Economic Forum
[LINKS of characters provided]
https://brownstone.org/articles/the-next-step-for-the-world-economic-forum/
EXCERPTS
…One can see very quickly that these names certainly connect to lockdown countries and individuals who have ignored their own laws and/or tried in some way to usurp them. But, there is more to it than that and I will give a hint by providing a link with each name.
Joseph Biden, President, United States
Boris Johnson, PM of United Kingdom
Jacinda Ardern, PM of New Zealand
Angela Merkel, Former PM of Germany
Emmanuel Macron, President of France
Justin Trudeau, PM of Canada
Xi Jinping, CCP Leader, China
Mario Draghi, PM of Italy
Scott Morrison, PM of Australia
…If you think that the WEF membership ends with just leaders of countries, here are a few more names:
Gavin Newsom, Governor of California
Jay Inslee, Governor of Washington State
Anthony Fauci, Director NIAID
Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House
Allow me to introduce more of the WEF by giving a list of names for the Board of Trustees.
Al Gore, Former WP of the US
Mark Caney, UN Special Envoy for Climate Action
T. Shanmugaratnam, Seminar Minister Singapore
Christine Lagarde, President, European Central Bank
Ngozi Okonja-Iweala, Director General, WTO
Kristalian Georggieva, Managing Director, IMF
Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Minister of Canada
Laurence Fink, CEO, BlackRock …
… [Much More in article.]
Corbett Member AnimalsArentFood points out…
The archive.org pages for YoungGlobalLeaders.org are pretty darn interesting.
Goes all the way back to 2005.
Better save any nuggets before archive.org starts scrubbing them.
https://www.corbettreport.com/greatnarrative/#comment-130170
Best Redpill episode yet! And enough show notes to keep an inquiring mind navigating the ‘rabbit hole’ for a month!
Though I like to think of Corbett’s work, metaphorically, not as a rabbit hole with dark dead ends, but as a massive tree or forest with many branches, all of which lead to satisfying fruit you can “sink your teeth into”. Those juicy facts contain viable seeds ready to be planted, and limbs to then be explored further…
Thank you James for the fruiting forest of knowledge which you so generously share. May we all help it thrive!
Thank you for the links. I was surprised and delighted to see that Andrew Kaufman would debate the Germ Theory vs Terrain Theory with Wolfgang Wodarg. I have struggled to understand Kaufman’s problem with Germ Theory and thought I would get some clarification. I ended up feeling disappointed and frustrated. No scientific debate took place and that is because Kaufman kept interrupting Wodarg, who had listened very patiently as Kaufman presented his case. However, I finally understand the problem I have with Kaufman. He thinks he is a lawyer. He is using rhetoric rather than scientific communication. This is how a scientist SHOULD argue: “Fact 1, fact 2, fact 3, fact 4. Here is a possible relationship. This relationship can explain fact a, fact b, fact c . Therefore, here is a my very cool theory. What do you think?” Kaufman didn’t do that. He didn’t let Wodarg do that. If you are going to argue against an established theory, you have to debate all of the facts and the way they are interpreted and also the way that theory has been applied in the real world. All Kaufman does is repeat over and over again “Viruses haven’t been purified and isolated, therefore they don’t exist.” What is more, he is adamant about being right–like a lawyer. A real scientist can never be absolutely certain of anything. Science is not about absolute truth–just the never ending search for it. I’m done with Kaufman. However, I love Reiner Fuellmich. Now that’s a lawyer acting like a lawyer!
No they’re not, MagicBullet.
You can imagine James nodding and saying anything you want.
But, I’ll be damned if James ever acknowledges the “fake virus theory” theory as gospel, that which “…encapsulates the entire problem!”
But, go ahead, ask him yourself. Save it for QFC, maybe he’ll pick it up and answer it for you/us. Although, I suspect you’ll be a bit let down with his less than definitive answer.
Do you mean to tell me, MagicBullet, that if Corbett believed that viruses didn’t exist, or specifically, if Sars-Cov-2 didn’t exist, that he wouldn’t use that argument to augment his own pandemic as scamdemic narrative?
Of course he would. You really have to be kidding!
Question: What or who are the “Rockies” that you reference? Or is that a typo?
You write:
“But he would agree that the Rockies can and would take advantage to monetize any kind of medical condition that can be made into a medical boogeyman.”
I’m not a virologist, are you? Because if you’re not, then neither of us qualify to reap the reward offered by the good people of your isolate-truth-fund website. They state their award guarantee thusly:
“WE GUARANTEE:
1,5 million € for a virologist who presents scientific proof of the existence of a corona virus, including documented control experiments of all steps taken in the proof.
You’re on!”
Let me point you to an article that discusses the criteria that the Samuel Eckert people are requiring for sufficient “proof” of Sars-cov-2. If they are, indeed, basing their level of proof on Koch’s Postulates, then that is fallaciously absurd, as the article clearly points out:
https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2020/11/16/kochs-postulates-covid-and-misinformation-rabbit-holes.html
All I can say is read it and weep.
You are so off the mark, my friend, so out in left field that it’s not even funny.
Thank goodness that there are extremely few people in your court.
It’s bad enough that MSM and media affiliates to the left of center, have attempted to paint a picture of the protesters associated with the Canadian trucker’s as being a bunch of anti-vaxxers, using that label in a vain smear campaign; while the real focus is not on vaccines, per se, but the fight against mandates and lock-downs. But, I can only imagine what the mainstream narrative would be if instead of protesters rallying with signs demanding an end to mandates, they were instead holding signs proclaiming something to the effect that Sars-Cov-2 doesn’t exist!
SARS-COV-2 IS FAKE!!!
Do you have even the slightest inkling of an idea how detrimental that would be to this budding movement? Do realize the lack of credibility it would create in the minds of the public? And what a circus it would be viewed as?
Sadly, I don’t believe you do.
By the way, I suggest you blow your 10 grand on your own party poppers. Have fun.
MagicBullet,
Listen, I’m glad we can agree to disagree. That is definitely a good thing.
Like I said, I’m not a virologist, and also, I haven’t anything to do with the medical profession, so I’m not a good person to debate the fine points. Maybe I can do a crash course on wikipedia on the subjects you mentioned – “…metagenomics, next generation sequencing, particle purification, and cell culture science…” – but, I came up with a wonderful idea, instead….
The link below is an article about researchers at McMaster University claiming to have been instrumental in isolating the Covid-19 virus. Why don’t you contact them via email and have a running discussion with them expressing your concerns and underlying skepticism. You can certainly post the body of the email correspondence here on TCR! I know it sounds like a novel idea – pun intended – but, why not?? I think we’ll all learn a little something, no?
https://brighterworld.mcmaster.ca/articles/mcmaster-researcher-plays-key-role-in-isolating-covid-19-virus-for-use-in-urgent-research/
“It’s bad enough that MSM and media affiliates to the left of center, have attempted to paint a picture of the protesters associated with the Canadian trucker’s as being a bunch of anti-vaxxers, using that label in a vain smear campaign; while the real focus is not on vaccines, per se, but the fight against mandates and lock-downs. But, I can only imagine what the mainstream narrative would be if instead of protesters rallying with signs demanding an end to mandates, they were instead holding signs proclaiming something to the effect that Sars-Cov-2 doesn’t exist!
SARS-COV-2 IS FAKE!!!
Do you have even the slightest inkling of an idea how detrimental that would be to this budding movement? Do realize the lack of credibility it would create in the minds of the public? And what a circus it would be viewed as?”
and yet…
believe it or not, one of the key organizers of the Canadian trucker convoy protest, Patrick King (who was recently let out on bail after being incarcerated for more than four months) came very close to doing just that!
He first came onto the Covid scene in August 2001 by taking dead aim at Dr. Deena Hinshaw, C.M.O.H. of Alberta in an attempt to have his Covid protest ticket thrown out of court.
During his court case in 2001 he tried to challenge Dr. Deena Hinshaw to produce any evidence that Sars-CoV-2 exists.
He ultimately lost his case and had to pay his fine.
The biochemistry is complex, but terrain theory does not explain contagion entirely. There are too many cases of people catching things from others, not always but in the right circumstances this is well observed and experienced. Neither germ theory or terrain theory only explain the phenomenon.
Virus mania was a good book, but there were conclusions that were false, that heterosexual transmission of AIDS does not exist. This is false. There are many many cases of healthy people who got sick from sexual contact with persons who tested positive for HIV. The healthy people never used poppers.
This a huge topic that is not fully understood and old isolation techniques used over 100 years ago can’t be applied to certain viruses because the viruses rely on being in cell culture to be detected, at least according to what I have read.
Also, Kaufman is not a research scientist, but an MD who’s specialty is in psychiatry. He has a masters in biochemistry and has never worked in a research lab and might not be familiar with modern techniques used in the purification of viruses. There is lack of understanding of something that is unfamiliar. Studying something by doing experiments regularly provides more expertise.
This does not mean that people should live in fear of pathogens. Healthy people are well equipped to deal with pathogens evidenced by our survival as a species. The primary goal should be for people to become more healthy and deal with sickness, rather than fearing catching germs.
The narrative surrounding HIV was sketchy and used to make people fearful. AZT is highly toxic, but more modern anti-retrovirals are less toxic and better tolerated in people who have tried everything and still are sick.
I have treated some AIDS patients in the 2000s who come in with sepsis, some of them young who reported sexual contact and then decline in health. But the most compelling evidence for me, were anecdotal reports while working as a crisis counselor for HIV/AIDS/HEP C phone line. I have spoken to many people who reported contacts with people with HIV/AIDS and HEP C. HEP C is primarily contracted through contact with dirty needles, from other HEP C carriers.
With an online search, it’s possible to view stories or reports by persons who now have AIDS and report healthy lifestyles prior to heterosexual contact with people who they discover are HIV positive. Not all people have Magic Johnson’s unique genetic make up “long term non progressors” and do become sick before any anti retroviral therapy.
There’s another “famous” case of AIDS in the rapper Eazy-E (Eric Lynn Wright) who reported numerous heterosexual contacts as the cause of his AIDS. Who knows if he is a trustworthy historian, but on ones death bed, why lie?
I’ve mentioned this before, but I also have two close friends who were young gay men were non IV drug users but heavy consumers of meth and also engaged in unprotected sex develop HIV. They new they had it because they started to get opportunistic infections and were sick all the time. I can compare this to other people I have known who used the same drug cocktails heavily who did not get sick in this way who were not engaged in unprotected sex. When I was young in early 20s experimented heavily, no IV drugs but lots of other stimulants and don’t have HIV. So I don’t think it was the drugs. Poppers weren’t used much by gay men in the 2000s.
My first year working in the ER, I was sick a lot and recall contacts with patients with the same illness as I later came down with. I remember I used to tough my face a lot and didn’t use gloves when touching patients skin. My terrain was pretty solid during that time and I even stopped all the flu shots and picked up a few colds and such from little kids who were coughing.
So for me, another reason I believe in viruses is because of these experiences.
My personal opinion is that the germ-host-environment interact in a very complex way that sometimes results in illness and it’s still not well understood, but I can’t say that viruses don’t exist because some people don’t get sick after contact with sick people.
It’s a fascinating topic. But people have believed in germs for centuries, not only because of propaganda, but their own experiences. I don’t think there is enough evidence to say viruses don’t exist based on Kaufman and Cowan and Lanka. It will take more to convince me. But this doesn’t mean that people with different perspectives can’t work together to stop tyranny, which to me is most important issue.
Thanks for sharing your observations and experiences here.
MagicBullet,
I’ll check out the section on HEP C. I have treated a lot of Covid patients who ended up on vents before IV Remdisivir. Maybe the Remdisivir was the nail in the coffin. It certainly does seem to be toxic to the kidneys, some of the survivors ended up on dialysis after. I treated a patient the other day who got Covid and ended up on dialysis permanently and was probably treated with Remdisivir. Hopefully he gets a kidney transplant because he’s relatively young.
“Now about the heteros who you mention with AIDS, did they not get a +HIV test then put on retrovirals then get AIDS?”
The people who I have spoken with and watching anecdotal reports online, “my story” type videos about heterosexual HIV do report becoming sick before any treatment at all. Many people get tested for HIV not just out of curiosity but because they are sick with opportunistic infections or frequently ill, some even have full blown AIDS before they get an HIV test and before they start any medicine at all.
Here’s one video on youtube (I couldn’t find it on another platform), of a young heterosexual woman previously healthy, who got sick with AIDS after sexual contact:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgtaU9GKNHg&t=67s
I agree with most of what you say, which is why I was so disappointed with Kaufman. There is an old Psyops trick that involves putting out a ridiculous statement that can be easily debunked and attributing it to an idea or information you want to keep hidden. You make anyone supporting the idea look ridiculous. They did this over and over with 9/11 and now with COVID-19.
Repeating again and again that viruses have not been purified or isolated and are therefore not “a thing” cannot be used in isolation as a scientific argument against the existence of viruses. If you stop there, you are intentionally or unintentionally doing a Psyops that makes people unwilling to look at the mountains of evidence that prove COVID-19 is a false-flag that is being used to impose a biosecurity state.
That doesn’t mean Kaufman is wrong. Maybe viruses don’t exist. Maybe bacteria don’t cause infection. Maybe it’s something else that makes us sick. Let’s keep looking. Let’s investigate outrageous ideas. They might not hold up to scrutiny, but along the way we might actually discover something really cool because we took the path less trodden. Science has been hijacked by evil dictators that don’t allow anyone to disagree with them. They are not scientists.
However, science does exist. It is a specific way of thinking, of investigating reality and trying to make sense of it. It has rules. Good rules, because they are based in logic and try to guard against human bias.
Kaufman is clearly biased, but not willing to admit it. That’s ok, virologists are clearly biased in favor of viruses and vaccines. Smallpox existed for thousands of years. There is evidence of smallpox innoculations being used in China and Africa a thousand years before Jenner’s cowpox vaccine. Smallpox vaccines became the norm. Now smallpox doesn’t exist. I would like to see a discussion between a Germ Theory advocate and a Terrain Theory advocate based on smallpox, rabies, polio and other viruses/vaccines.
Just saying, “you haven’t isolated and purified” the virus” is not good enough. It’s rhetoric, not science. Rhetoric has its place, but not in a scientific discussion.
Well stated post, and I agree with your perspective. I have looked into the isolation and purification issue, terrain advocates argue that Koch’s postulates are the only way to prove viruses exist. I don’t think that’s true.
Also, it’s acknowledged by most reputable scientists that viruses don’t always lead to illness in every host. Studying why that is is interesting.
Every point you make is fascinating. I did read that particular study at some time in the past, because I am extremely biased AGAINST the whole COVID story and would therefore LOVE to grind it up to make my bread (Fee Fi Fo Fum). The idea of peer review in science is that you get to ask questions that will eviserate a poorly performed study or a poorly reasoned scientific opinion. Free and transparent peer review is not allowed by the antiscience nonscientists controlling all the research funds and research papers. If we are going to be better than they are, we need to allow free and transparent discussion based on the evidence. I do not have enough expertise to challenge the evidence you present. I wonder what Wodarg would reply if he had half a chance. As for HIV, I watched the two hour interview that Gary Null did with Kary Mullis. Somewhere in there, Mullis said that he had been writing a grant and couldn’t find out who had establised the link between HIV and AIDS. He requested a copy of the study. None existed. His search for evidence of a link between HIV and AIDS eventually made him a pariah. He was shunned and cut off from research funding. That’s an interesting story. It’s not evidence. HOWEVER, I am now much more ready to believe that there is no such thing as AIDS. It’s just a lot of different illnesses–many of which were caused by the medicines that were supposed to treat the totally healthy person who tested positive for HIV. You are preaching to the choir. Kary Mullis requested a debate with Faucci or any of the other creeps who were making big bucks off of AIDS. They froze him out and refused to debate him. He wrote a paper on why PCR shouldn’t be used to diagnose AIDS. They refused to publish it. All of this is strong circumstantial evidence for scullduggery. BUT we never got the debate that Kary Mullis requested. And we sure didn’t get it between Kaufman and Wodarg, because Kaufman wouldn’t let Wordarg speak. You can’t debate in isolation. Another scientist must be able to tear your position apart. I’m not a scientist and I’m biased in your favor. I can’t debate you.
James, although I am at this point more than familiar with your clear and concise appraisal of what is being foisted upon us, it never ceases to en-sober (is there such a thing?) me, but on this occasion, knowing that you were (or so I get the impression) reaching a higher percentage of normies than usual, I listened proudly (of you); Your delivery was superbly effective. Well done, and thank you.
Who is David Crenshaw? Thanks