Interview 1523 – Is Coronavirus the Next 9/11? Discussion on The Ochelli Effect

by | Mar 12, 2020 | Interviews | 47 comments

In this conversation recorded on March 9th, James Corbett joins Chuck Ochelli on The Ochelli Effect to discuss the pandemic panic and its parallels to other “world-altering” (but ultimately manipulated) crises like 9/11. What is the real threat here? What is being neglected in coverage of the phenomenon? What else is happening in the world that this story is overshadowing? Your questions are answered in this in-depth conversation.

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SHOW NOTES:
Coronavirus: The “Cures” Will Be Worse Than the Disease

Momento Mori – Unpopular Thoughts on Corona Virus 311

“Event 201” Pandemic Exercise

Bill Gates Covid-19 article in New England Journal of Medicine (2020)

Bill Gates Ebola article in New England Journal of Medicine (2015)

Afghanistan “Peace” Deal covered on New World Next Week

US conducts first air strike against Taliban since peace deal

A Terrifying Scenario: Coronavirus in ‘Quarantined’ Gaza

International court approves probe of US war crimes in Afghanistan

The Rollercoaster Ride Has Begun

47 Comments

  1. Can anyone else in the Corbett community relate to being the father of young children and just being sick to your stomach that these quarantines are really happening? Just a handful of people in the alternative media are trying to respond calmly to this, Corbett and Jon Rappaport coming to mind. But the quarantines are real, the disruption to the lives of people in the quarantine communities are real, and it’s slowly spreading. I am in southern Minnesota and shelves are full and people are calmly going about business, and so I quietly prepare. But where’s the peak to this madness? From what I’m reading of the tarot cards this feels like months of coming disruptions in a variety of forms. Hope I’m wrong, but as Rahm Emanuel said “you never let a good crisis go to waste”… and we’re coming on an election season.

    • I’m a single mom of three young kids and I am in your boat too. I know this is being directed by the powers that shouldn’t be. I know it’s a scam of sorts to further us along to the NWO. But it still makes me sick to my stomach at the thought of quarantines, etc.

      • Thanks for expressing this.
        What ya’ll are saying hits at the heart of the entire world scenario.
        It impacts me.

  2. I’m not buying any of the fear the pyramid cap is selling but do take very seriously how this event will be used to advance control agenda through use of health legislation that can be used as a work around against individual freedoms and liberties. Human Rights are numero uno on the ‘cap’s’ agenda, especially with those western peoples who have a cultural affinity towards democracy and individual rights as suggested to exist under natural law. Natural law if understood stands against the moral relativity of man made law and regulations as proposed as the ultimate arbiter under the ‘cap’s’ wishes and auspices.

    As for prepping for some supply chain societal upset, it is always a good idea to be prepared but that is the individual’s choice.
    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/10/coronavirus-what-real-science-would-look-like-if-it-existed/

  3. James,
    Not sure why this guy had you on. I thought this was supposed to be an interview.

  4. Just for fun, try this:
    1. Enter a shop, café or cinema.
    2. Tell the cashier that you found a coronavirus in the toilet.
    3. Cough a bit.
    4. See the response.

      • I can just picture the mischief of some Corbett Report Member with their drone and this current coronavirus hype.

        Can you imagine a Corbett Member flying around a talking drone and playing pranks like this?
        Hilarious.
        https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1223218977570078721/video/1

        (Disclosure: I snagged the link from Corbett’s article:
        “Coronavirus: The “Cures” Will Be Worse Than the Disease”)

  5. Wylie 1 I do enjoy the rants, chew some of the fat on this guy, he is doing something. What that is time will tell.
    5/2 he is authentic.
    https://youtu.be/aV4S4SFchWQ
    He discusses the Covid19 like no other Politician.

    I wonder… Whiteys bar in Boston? Whitey Bulgier! Oh my!

  6. Good post wylie1.

    “Right now we have these supposed threats occurring all at once:
    1. Climate change emergency (you’re gonna die)
    2. Muslim/Islamic Jihad (they are going to kill you)
    3. Virus of the year (its gonna kill you)”

    As I mentioned in a recent post, notice that the Muslim/Islamic Jihad “terrorism” threat has been put on the back burner for months now?
    Quite likely because the public is having enough trouble trying to cope with this virus scare alone.

    It’s important to prioritize public fear, and focus on just one big ticket item at a time. At least that’s my theory.

  7. It seems to me people locked into the news cycle will be more accepting of this insane hysteria. Duh. But I like how James put it, looking through the window you certainly wouldn’t see the coming apocalypse.

  8. My word, this guy sounds like Alex Jones’ long lost lung!

  9. Thank you for actually talking about the Big-Pharma-Drug-Cartel-created “Opioid Epidemic.” that, as of last year, was claiming the lives of 137 Americans PER DAY. (That’s assuming the numbers were correct, maybe it’s even higher, https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/28/opioid-deaths/ ). Imagine if a virus or gun violence was causing that kind of devastation… Bet my bottom worthless green paper MSM would be blasting that from the headlines.

  10. I wonder if he will be the poster child for the COVID-19 VACCINE.

  11. On the bright side, they’re hurting themselves to a degree with this fabricated pandemic by providing fuel against their agenda 21 effort to pack everyone tightly into cities.

    Packing everyone tightly into cities provides ideal conditions for a real pandemic.

  12. Unfortunately, and much to the chagrin of Libertarians, shuttling down things that have large crowds is actually what must be done. The PGA Tour has canceled the Players Championship, all NCAA Championships are canceled, the PGA Tour has canceled the next 3 tournaments, U of F has shut down the campus. This is being done all around the country and they are right. Disney World is shut down which is mind boggling. This disease can be asymptotic for a week so it can spread under the radar and if you shut down it can be stopped as what has happened in China. Russia closed it’s border with China and there haven’t been many cases there.

    • Why not shutdown everything for commmon flu which is far deadlier? Why not shutdown traffic which is by far deadlier?

      • Because Corona kills a much larger % of people and driving isn’t Corona.

        • “Because Corona kills a much larger % of people and driving isn’t Corona.”

          Doctor could you please expand a little on what you said above with more clarity?

          As you know the common flu is “Corona” too.
          Of course driving isn’t Corona. His point was that it kills/has killed far more people than COVID-19.

          • The current Death rate estimate is 1.5 million at the low end and 5 million at the high end. You better take care of your elderly relatives because the death rate in 70 and over is 10%. This is my last response to trolls like you.

            • Estimated by whom? Fearmongers at WHO? Or maybe the likes of Angela Merkel?

              We’re in the middle of the “outbreak” and there’s a total of 4.000 dead in two months. Even if we take this number for granted (which I don’t, not even close) in the same period flu, any flu ended something in between 50.000 and 100.000 lives.

          • Multiply the # of % deaths by 30 to get total cases. The rates are 2-4%. As usual Tulsi Gabbard has the real response to Corona.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPALwvW8Shk

            Eat your heart out Libertarians. This is the reason we have to have Medicare for All and it is done with MMT.

            • https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

              Less than half reported cases are left unrecovered according to these statisrics. Does’t seem loke much of an outbreak. 5440 dead in 50 days. That, extrapolated, makes it 40.000 yearly. And figure will stay with us for a while probably, being tossed to the pile with other flu strains.

            • UBI from Tulsy? Are you kidding? That’s your solution, handout “money”? Pathetic, I’d be disappointed had I any expectations.

              Meanwhile, when discussing solutions in the grownup world, a clinical case study is underway to test efficacy of chloroquine, the old i.e. cheap drug used for malaria and that proved efficient against SARS and MERS, on corona flu strain.

              https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-16392/v1

              You known, the good old double blind trial, unlike what your loving leader pushing vaccines get.

              I’m done with you. Everyone else, please pardon the post burst.

        • WHO says ( https://www.who.int/gho/road_safety/mortality/en/ ) 1.25 million dead in traffic accidents in 2013.

          Standard flu 350-650 thousand reported deaths yearly.

          With the current death rate we may be looking at 30 thousand corona death by the end of the year.

          1.250.000 > 350.000 > 30.000

          • I revised my figures to 40.000 corona deaths yearly. Still dwarfed by total flu precipitated deaths.

  13. James Corbett once had an episode following a time when he was briefly sick with some bug.

    When James was ill, Corbett Members, including me, were giving out all this advice on how to handle his illness. The threads were full of good remedies and advice, but…

    I really took home something from that episode which followed his brief illness.

    My take-home…
    Occasionally getting sick is a normal human ‘function’.
    In my opinion, it is a very, very healthy human function.
    And one that is good for the society and future generations as a whole.

    I wish I could find that video of Corbett discussing his perspective about his being sick.

  14. I appreciate the level of levelheadedness James displays here, particularly in the way he spoke of Event 201 as not necessarily demonstrating any real degree of conspiratorial grist, starting at 15:35 mins of the podcast.

    Also, quite admirable of James, one again, to plainly state that he is reserving judgement on the nature of Covid-19 for lack of clear data at this time.

    At 2:01 mins James states:

    “…you name the theory, I have heard it, and, I am reserving judgement on it because there is not enough data at this time for me to come to a conclusion.”

    Well, far from infuriating – lord knows to which conspiracy starved chickadees he refers – I find such honesty a pretty damned good reason for continuing support of TCR.

    But, one critique I do have is this: While I fully understand the outward appearance and/or actual manifestation of a massive NWO control-grid style tactical application in real time, of lock downs, quarantines, closures, etc.,etc., and the convenience a pandemic affords, whether real, or not, in furthering globalist agendas – after all, practice makes perfect…I still don’t see a justification in describing such reactions to a perceived threat as “panic”, inferring an overreaction, to something that’s admittedly poorly understood by a data-deprived layperson, however intuitive, intelligent and admired that layperson is.

    Otherwise, spot on.

    PS: It should be pointed out that Ochelli falsely described symptoms of Covid-19 as being in the upper respiratory infection category. Nope. That ain’t the effect. It effects the lower respiratory tract…which is potentially, much more serious and deadly.

    Also, on Ochelli’s monologue discussion of opioids, he would make you believe that there’s been zero resolve to reign in the problem. Ochelli sounds totally out to lunch, like he’s been in lalaland for the last 2 or 3 years…. Yes, doctors used to be giving out prescriptions for opioids like candy on Halloween. But, as far as I know, they’ve since clamped the hell down on those practices, as well as instituting fines and lawsuits against the pharmaceutical companies – though, not nearly enough, as long jail sentences are greatly preferred – ranging from hundreds of millions to billions of dollars for fraudulently soliciting and corrupting the medical profession (ha ha, not hard to do, apparently) into proliferating this crap in the first place.

    Perhaps Ochelli may need to quit the bong. lol

    But, I do have heart felt kudos for Ochelli for reminding about the open burn pits and sticking up vets who have been totally “burned”, literally and figuratively, by our bent government by the Potomac. I do sincerely thank Ochelli for that.

    • Correction is in order:

      It’s true, as Ochelli said, that Covid-19 affects the upper respiratory tract. But, this type of virus can also potentially affect the lower respiratory tract, allowing pneumonia to set in, and that’s the real problem. It’s deadly. That’s the point I was trying to make:

      https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/how-coronavirus-attacks-study-of-56000-patients-reveals-it-stage-by-stage/articleshow/74559381.cms

    • Candlelight says:

      At 2:01 mins James states:

      “…you name the theory, I have heard it, and, I am reserving judgement on it because there is not enough data at this time for me to come to a conclusion.”

      Well, far from infuriating – lord knows to which conspiracy starved chickadees he refers –
      I find such honesty a pretty damned good reason for continuing support of TCR.

  15. I was talking to Edward T Haslam recently about what precipitated the Polio epidemic that terrorized US in the twentieth century , precipitated the Vaccination campaign that resulted in millions of people being injected with SV 40 Cancer Virus and that is in part responsible for Cancer epidemic today . Ed believed that Polio epidemic was precipitated and caused by overuse of newly discovered Antibiotics . My mother also related to me the panics and scares of her youth and said that most infections came from public pools and then they shut them all down , a biologically dead gut caused by antibiotic usage would cause normally neutralized polio virus to be transmitted through water and to this day a stool sample is used to diagnose .
    Bill Gates has been funding the Rotarian’s worldwide Polio Vaccination campaign and may need a new system of promoting eugenics in this century !
    I believe that when establishment says patients had previous underling conditions the meant had been on Antibiotics and this killed immune system and smokers get sick and cant defend themselves from common FLU , all speculation due to lack if real data !

    • “Bill Gates has been funding the Rotarian’s worldwide Polio Vaccination campaign and may need a new system of promoting eugenics in this century !”

      He may have found himself in some type of conflict of interest? 🙂
      Anyhow, today he finally resigned from Microsoft’s board of directors.

      Apparently he will now spend more time on his philanthropic priorities including ‘global health’, development, education and ‘climate change’.

  16. Some similarities so far between 9/11 and covid-19

    Officially story is that it was started by cave dwellers (bin laden/bats)
    Transmission via planes.
    Based on nano technology
    Bioweapons labs (Anthrax in mail/novel Coronavirus)
    People falling from buildings. (WTC/China)
    Collapsing Buildings (New York/China)
    People with masks and breathing problems. (Manhattan / World)
    Markets dives and panic.
    Endless discussion on the media and fear porn.
    Draconian legislation on the books gets enacted.
    Calls for restricting people’s rights.
    Innocent people incarcerated.
    Travel restrictions and lock-downs.
    People loosing jobs.
    “Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories”
    New York Mayor is a hero.
    Predictive programming, drills
    World trade center / world trade under attack.
    Increased Surveillance

    • One distinct difference: to trigger 9/11 quite a mayhem had to be staged. With this common flu lookalike it’s sufficent to have a few politicians call it a pandemic. (WHO guy, Merkel, Boris and the ilk)

      To that effect, we are obviously descending the scales of sanity, clearheadedness, reason and the good old “fool me once…” mentality. We’re undoing ages of progress in logical thinking. We’re literally jumping off of shoulders of giants.

      • Mkey, I do beg pardon for attaching this here but it seems to be the end of the line. What all above has said, should be , as we understand it locally. The Burrito Theory. A double axis of events folding in a circular direction. Where the events of the past touch the events of the future. The future is the back of the burrito, smooth and clean, a blank canvus coming into contact with the past as it is rolled. The filling is the past. All the programmed and potenciated plans and random events subsequently formed in the mix.When consumed or absorbed the Orwellian concept of two diverse thoughts existing simultaneously bring the consumer to a halt. One cannot distinguish the difference between the two divergent parts. A suspended animation. Almost approaching death but not that far. The Burrito Theory.
        Applies to all the social science derivatives.
        What’s my name kinda thing, name it, own it, sell it, profit from it. This Covid19 is a perfect Burrito Theory.

  17. Here is a better information source:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

    There is a broad shut down of Pro and College Sports and and Universities large gatherings and the # of infected persons is unknown and very large and trump doesn’t want to know who they are. Meanwhile they will go on infecting more and more others. The numbers go up by 2.5 new cases for eacn
    h new infection. Do the Math.

    • Asavetmd: very insightful and timely. No other comment will be forthcoming from me for i don’t compete intellectually but I do compare. Time is the great leveler of mice and men. Compared to what?. This maybe, as well as anything. Blessings upon you.

      https://youtu.be/dFczfwW99kU

      • Thank you. I am almost all the way thru the video which makes common sense recommendations, but there is one place where I disagree and I have a comment in the comment section of the video.

        There are 2 kinds of sugar that we consume, which one are you talking about? Fructose or Glucose? Glucose is Brain Food, Fructose that is extremely high in our diets, causes Fatty Liver Disease, Obesity and Diabetes, and 99% of people think Glucose, AKA table sugar, is what they should stay away from. They have it backwards. The Artificial sugar Industry is built on the idea that table sugar is bad which is a lie. Fruit sugar which everybody thinks is OK is NOT OK. It is in sodas, juices, Agave, etc is what is killing us.Cancers DO NOT LIVE ON TABLE SUGAR, THEY LIVE ON FRUIT SUGAR. TABLE SUGAR IS BRAIN FOOD, FRUIT SUGAR IS CANCER FOOD.

  18. Spot on. I came to the comments section at the 19:20 mark to say the same thing. Well said.
    It doesn’t help the credibility of someone who purports to have spent a large amount of time researching a topic if they don’t even know why their subject is named as it is.

  19. Covid-19 is not “an upper respiratory tract disease” (as Chuck claims several times in this interview). When getting on 70% of deaths are caused by respiratory failure, it’s a lower respiratory tract disease.In fact, it’s both but it probably isn’t a blocked nose, infected sinus, a sore throat or any other upper tract issue that is going to kill you, it’s most likely going to be pneumonia, in your lungs, you know, in the lower tract.

    For someone who says he’s researched this thoroughly, I’m finding Chucks “facts” harder and harder to believe.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.26.20028191v1

  20. There’s a ton of comments here and I’m on my mobile so please forgive me if this has been already been brought up.
    With all of this COVID-19 “testing”, I suspect DNA collection is taking place.

  21. I don’t know why anyone would have kids but if anyone’s going to do it, I’d certainly prefer it be people who think critically and have decent ethics like these guys.
    Major props for not allowing your kids to be injected with ‘vaccines’.
    Lucky kids

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