Interview 1237 – Newsbud Roundtable on the Alt Media Hit List

12/21/201622 Comments

In this week’s Newsbud Roundtable Spiro Skouras is joined by Newsbud.com Founder Sibel Edmonds, James Corbett of corbettreport.com and Senior Producer at Newsbud Kurt Nimmo to discuss Nimmo’s recent exclusive article for Newsbud titled: ‘PropOrNot: Evidence of a CIA Psychological Operation’. We take a look at the war on free speech, the information war that is in full swing and much more.

SHOW NOTES:

What I Learned From the “PropOrNot” Propaganda List

Secrets for Sale?: The Greenwald/Omidyar/NSA connection

Amazon wins case for $600 million CIA contract

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  1. bgree says:

    Congratulations! You made the list. Would have been a slight disappointment if you hadn’t. You may count on me for future monetary support. Please keep us updated on any changes or future developments for your sight.

  2. HomeRemedySupply says:

    I love these roundtables!
    These always widen my perspectives.

    Russia.
    Russia and its “Fake News” allies.
    Russia with its Cyber-hacking and election tampering.
    Russians are the bad guys.
    Notice how the word “Russia” and “Fake News” and “cyberhacking” and “election tampering” and “bad” are all affiliated.
    Russia is the common denominator.

    Who are the powerful Washington DC players who for many years have been screaming “Russia is the bad guy”?
    Who are they? …
    …The Neocons (and younger recruits) with their rebranded entities like “The Foreign Policy Initiative”.

    I am convinced that the Neocons have a role in all this recent “Russia” stuff. While I am sure other players are on board, these Neocons are having a field day.

    Foreign Policy Initiative
    http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/foreign_policy_initiative/

    Robbie Martin details aspects of Russia being targeted by the Neocons.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybmh7rbC–Q&feature=youtu.be&t=1m37s

    The “Project for a New American Century” continued extremely strong with Obama and Hillary, and now it seems like elements are on Trump’s team.
    (5 minutes)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-vEGNEtKSU

    Great 12 minute summary of the Neocon agenda during Obama and Hillary.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXpIfZqg8zA&list=PL8BrC7tLTUR-JxDs3H2rwQx-a277-pnDl

  3. peace.froggs says:

    Ah yes, Russia can do no wrong, just look into Putin’s eyes, just like Bush “I looked the man in the eye. I found him very straight-forward and trustworthy – I was able to get a sense of his soul.”

    Forget about that Berlin terrorist attack to take down merkel, Putin is awesome!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noaGX_KzRYU

  4. Sam says:

    What happened to the last article? I was 3/4 of the way through it and enjoying it when I had to leave it unfinished, thinking I would get back to it.

    Please post the link so I can finish it.

    Thank you for some great essays.

  5. nosoapradio says:

    awesome dense roundtable: spiro nailed it with his recap and conclusion, Ms Edmonds with pseudo-alternative media and Greewaldesque gatekeeping techniques along with pertinent prédictions about resuscitation of left-wing movements after 8-year hibernation.

    a cursory nod at the pizzagate psyop…

    as is often the case with the establishment, winning the war is not really the objective; confusion and destruction are

    causing the gradual erosion of the minds and wills of would-be dissidents…

  6. patrix says:

    Hi James and everyone else

    The news scene is looking more and more like a soap opera.

    I’m curious if you James or anyone else here have watched a movie about 9/11 called September Clues? http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=477

    It paints a rather different picture of the event than what is portrayed here and in other alternative media. Any thoughts?

    BR /Patrik

  7. Moxa4 says:

    Thank you for that roundtable discussion. It comes along just at the right time.
    The “fake-news”-strategy is an attempt to gain peoples minds in this information war. Fake terrorism / Home made terrorism / fear mongering – and last but not least – the expenditures for domestic security: All this objectives has to be as effective as possible.
    So, it may be sufficiant for this sysop just to follow a narrative in order to establish a certain collective awareness (social engeneering). It won’t be necessary – and certainly it would be counter productive – to shut down the ‘alternative’ media.
    But this is just a conjecture. So, should I buy the DVDs? I’m thinking about it.

    Be good – and if you cant be good, be careful – allways check your sources.

  8. Mark says:

    Regarding the conclusion, I think the best thing said was by Kurt, when he reminded everyone about journalistic integrity. Maintaining that makes it much tougher to make a case against alternative media that isn’t just a total fabrication (although fabrication would be the chosen direction anyway, I suppose). It kind of sounded like Spiro was countering that with his comment about self-censorship, except that the fake news thing is so vacuous that how to self-censor is totally unclear – is James going to stop doing his articles supporting Putin? There’s nothing there.

    Kurt’s second point that this whole thing can’t sustain itself is equally valid, and in fact I think the alternative media is already making too big of an issue of it, effectively sustaining its very limited momentum. Quit talking about it.

    On Kurt’s first point and the CR model, I think we all have to think about that – when CR uses an open-source approach everyone involved in that has a responsibility in effect. Hell, even our comments should undergo the same test, no bullshit. James shouldn’t have to be wasting time even thinking about editing/”censoring” that sort of stuff, even for the good of CR and its accessibility. We all need to practice integrity here.

  9. bladtheimpailer says:

    Pam and Russ Martens of ‘Wall Street on Parade’ did a fair amount of investigation into who is behind propornot. They traced PON back to its registered site in New Mexico were the trail ran cold under the same mechanisms used to hide assets off shore. They did however discover a number of other important connections well worth consideration.
    http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/12/whos-behind-propornots-blacklist-of-news-websites/

    I agree that if censorship is about to be expanded upon those who ‘broadcast’ over the internet need to find other ways of getting their valuable information out to their readership, considering the alternative is the MSM. James’ proposal of .bit may be the way to go. It might be worth while to purchase your domain name now in case we all wake up one day and find the net heavily censured as to what is available for public consumption when it comes to truth in news sources that conflict with elite set guidelines. This has already happened to James Tracy’s ‘Memory Hole Blog’ over his web site allowing the questioning in depth of the Sandy Hook school event, besides his firing from his professorship and most likely other attacks yet to come as they set out to destroy this man. Just ask Catherine Fitts on the vindictiveness when it comes to tptsb.

    One thing for sure is that neo-liberal-con faction of tptsb are very distressed that they have lost complete control over the narrative the public has access to. Tptsb loss in the American Presidential elections is a very bitter pill for them to swallow and that they do intend to do something about this situation in the near term if they can swing it. To use the chess term warning, ‘garde’ as you/we may be about to lose our most valuable asset, being the free expression of ideas and open source investigation on the internet under its present search engine forms.

  10. VoiceOfArabi says:

    Nicely done Spiro, and the comments appears to be disabled on Newsbud website??

    I agree with James and disagree with Kurt with regards to PropOrNot (think of outsourcing!). That said, the goal for the “empire” stays the same.. “silence any dissent”.

    it is very difficult to solve any “picture puzzle” if you don’t see the entire picture at least once (otherwise called the 35,000 feet view).

    No one currently (on any alternative news i know) is pointing at, or shining a light on the real enemy. everyone is busy talking about the symptoms, but no one is talking about the real “man” behind the curtains.

    if we to draw a comparison, then US of A (otherwise called the “empire”) is currently at the same phase as Hitler was in 1933.

    empire building comes to a stage when they decide “we have achieved 80% of our goal… it is all or nothing… we either go for it, or risk losing the 80% we achieved, especially if what’s coming is not in their favor.

    For Hitler, he felt he could do that around 1933.

    For US of A, they felt that way when they lost the war in Iraq (around 2006-2008)

    USA or the “empire” is on the same path as Germany 1933…

    Now, to help you see the man behind the curtains… ask yourself, why did GE, IBM, etc helped Hitler around that time… Why was Hitler the Times magazine “man of the year” in 1938.

    I suggest that the same “power” behind Hitler, is also behind the “empire”
    my 2 cents.

  11. ywar says:

    Of all the horrendous crimes committed against humanity by the ruling elite, the one that truly has the power to ignite a collective response is child abuse… and they know it.
    It is therefore, no wonder that the debate regarding ‘fake news’ has been aggressively pushed to alter the scandal du jour.
    The ‘alt. media’ should muster all available investigative resources and focus on the original story, based on the contents of the leaks and not get too caught up with the ‘fake news’ diversion.

  12. Greg Bacon says:

    If you want to see how twisted, corrupt and phony the lying MSM is, this video of then President GW Bush joking about ‘finding’ Saddam’s WMD’s at the WH Press Dinner says it all. I don’t see why they’re laughing over a LIE that destroyed Iraq, killed over a million and made many Iraqis homeless, but I’m not a psychopath.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5YgJx8VGRA

    If you want to see another FAKE ‘news’ site, go to “Hamilton Electors” who are dedicated to taking the WH away from Trump. But good luck finding who they are or where their money comes from.

    http://www.hamiltonelectors.com/whowe_are

  13. pablo says:

    Good day everyone, about censoring sites, please check this video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFaroi2fMPg

    is about the following site

    http://truthstreammedia.com/

    they got hacked after sharing the video: “Congress Hands Government Authority to Microchip People with ‘Mental Disabilities'”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RzlXfYBVW8

    right now I cannot access the sites, just the Youtube one, the sites shows:

    Warning: require_once(/homepages/23/d496337601/htdocs/backupnew/wp-settings.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /homepages/23/d496337601/htdocs/backupnew/wp-config.php on line 93

    Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required ‘/homepages/23/d496337601/htdocs/backupnew/wp-settings.php’ (include_path=’.:/usr/lib/php5.5′) in /homepages/23/d496337601/htdocs/backupnew/wp-config.php on line 93

    keep awake!

  14. NES says:

    Sibel is absolutely, positively on target in regard to the slow build to a BAM! situation analysis. We’ve seen this before. Propornot is a small test of what is to come, no doubt.

    With regard to Paypal’s owner–his blocking Wikileaks funding does not stand alone as the only example of his company’s attempts to block free speech by participating in dismantling the Constitution. No one may remember this or perhaps didn’t know about it. However, Paypal, under the owner’s direction, attempted to block online publishing about 6-7 yrs ago. Paypal stated that certain books did not meet their criteria and refused to pass through customers’ payments to purchase them. The criteria? No one knew. Paypal noted “content” as the criteria for publishing anything that could be paid for online through them–meaning they would NOT support freedom of speech but they would participate in a Nazi approach to book burning. The books were not porn, btw. They were written by independent authors and were being sold through Smashwords, a tiny online entity who allowed authors to self-publish in any format. Paypal has been lying low since. Why? The uproar and support from the community was SO loud it went viral and they were forced to back-off. The owner of Smashwords met with Paypal and afterwards the store front continued as usual. He would not reveal what happened to his users/readers/supporters. IMO, that was an early test to see if online freedom of speech could be suppressed through a tiny entity that would go unnoticed by the larger populace. However, it represented a silent boring into real freedom of speech online. Didn’t work. Now we have the propornot junk-site stuffing everyone into the same jar, as James notes. That’s a movement forward for the TPTSB.

  15. mkey says:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-how-the-cia-invented-conspiracy-theories/

    Popper, the more widely influential, presented broad, largely theoretical objections to the very possibility of important conspiracies ever existing, suggesting that these would be implausibly difficult to implement given the fallibility of human agents; what might appear a conspiracy actually amounted to individual actors pursuing their narrow aims. Even more importantly, he regarded “conspiratorial beliefs” as an extremely dangerous social malady, a major contributing factor to the rise of Nazism and other deadly totalitarian ideologies. His own background as an individual of Jewish ancestry who had fled Austria in 1937 surely contributed to the depth of his feelings on these philosophical matters.

    Meanwhile, Strauss, a founding figure in modern neo-conservative thought, was equally harsh in his attacks upon conspiracy analysis, but for polar-opposite reasons. In his mind, elite conspiracies were absolutely necessary and beneficial, a crucial social defense against anarchy or totalitarianism, but their effectiveness obviously depended upon keeping them hidden from the prying eyes of the ignorant masses. His main problem with “conspiracy theories” was not that they were always false, but they might often be true, and therefore their spread was potentially disruptive to the smooth functioning of society. So as a matter of self-defense, elites needed to actively suppress or otherwise undercut the unauthorized investigation of suspected conspiracies.

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