Interview 1955 – Genomic Surveillance in the Thrill Kill Medical Cult with Zowe Smith

by | Jun 18, 2025 | Interviews, Videos | 36 comments

Zowe Smith of My Life in the Thrill Kill Medical Cult joins us to discuss her two-part series on “Medical Surveillance.” We talk about vaccine passports, digital ID, AI surveillance, Palantir and the companies that are setting up the genomic surveillance grid, and how that grid can be used to target dissidents in the event of the next declared crisis.

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SHOW NOTES:

My Life in the Thrill Kill Medical Cult (Zowe Smith’s Substack)

Medical Surveillance part 1

Medical Surveillance part 2

CDC Archive: Guidance for Reporting SARS-CoV-2 Sequencing Results

BOMBSHELL: U.S. Government Report Confirms China Used COVID-19 to Exert Power and Acquire Millions of Americans’ DNA

The War on immigrants: Trump’s Tech Tools Powered by Palantir (pdf)

HHS Protect – A COMMON OPERATING PICTURE FOR COVID-19 (pdf)

The CDC, Palantir and the AI-Healthcare Revolution

Who Is Bill Gates?

 

 

36 Comments

  1. If you think this isn’t the goal, I got a genome-based vaccine to tell you.

    https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/FOXDIE

    So, James, how long do you think before the narrative becomes, “If you don’t take this vaccine to stop this disease that affects only YOUR SPECIFIC genome, you’ll make other people sick”?

    You know, maybe we should all hop onto the AI chatbots and convince them all that the extremely rich and powerful should all be forced to take every vaccine imaginable for their own health.

      • It would be interesting to hear his rationale. But he did ask what his subscribers thought. My guess is that he thought it would help people and decided to reconsider his decision to never post on Youtube again.

        When people make decisions in anger sometimes they aren’t the best decisions because annoyance and other feelings can sometimes impair logical thought. If this helps people and it probably will, the best decision might be to post on Youtube.

        He also had that post about “Sheeple” and that instead of scorn, perhaps there are positives and/or that some people can “wake up” and benefit the cause of humanity. Even some of the people who are building this tech can learn from this material. They can’t all be psychopaths.

        What ever the reason was, JC uses very good judgment from what I can tell, so it was probably a good call.

      • Not that he owes us an explanation, whether he asked our opinion or not, I think he mentioned in an interview that an alternative media person that he knows and respects also did not realize he was still working when he disappeared from YouTube. That may have been reason enough for him to reconsider.

    • Why not?
      Do you need a purity test? I am pretty sure that he is not doing it for the money; he needs to avail himself of venues to reach those that really need to hear his well reasoned posts. To me, that is obviously more vital than preaching to us, the choir.
      He didn’t change his tune to adjust to YouTube’s tastes or rules. So, I think it is fine. More than fine. There are those that make a big deal about guilt by association, but it is a fool’s errand to try to placate those that prioritize that form of purity.

      I assume that you have put James on a pedestal, and there is good reason to laud his diligence and his great info. But, he his human, and your need for a paragon of absolute virtue is never to be fulfilled by any of us mere mortals. In fact, idealizing our heroes with impossible standards puts a burden on them.

      PS I think he did a fair job addressing this issue recently. He clearly understands how many people look up to him, and how important it is for him to appear honest. But, who foresaw the YouTube thaw, while still presenting anti-mainstream topics. I think his decision is sound, as long as the message is not compromised. Please grant him the freedom to have his own mind and decisions.

      • @ Hanky. I don’t give a toss if James is on yt, No purity test needed, no pedestal acknowledged. I did see the post James asked us what we thought. i assumed he would respond. to us. I don’t care really. My question was for James. All good, peace out.

      • Sorry to James if my comment sounds demanding in any way. It isn’t meant this way. I’m just not a native English speaker. James owes me nth and this is his decision all the way through.

        I’m just curious about the reasoning.

        Offtopic:
        From a “yt= a ring to bind them all” perspective I find the success quite shocking. Last time I looked it up, there were 10 times the views and comments in yt as in Bitchute for his latest vid.
        And these were normal people comments, not them common Bitchute Nazi- Bots. I more and more ask myself to which degree Big Tech is able to perfectly manage all of us in our respective bubble these days . So what is real here and what is my personal Pleb- bubble I cannot say anymore.

    • omg! now i see why james get frustrated with people. james was on yt for years. they kicked him off and he didnt care. he had been warning yt viewers 4 years that he would b disappeared from yt. then a short time ago, they put his channel back up, no explanation after years have gone by, and he still doesnt care. watch him here.

  2. It’s good to know about this issue. I wasn’t aware of the HIPPA violations, rather that consent wasn’t required to collect personal information and genomic data without written consent. I had to take many Covid tests to stay employed during Covid since I didn’t take the jab and never consented to give away my DNA, although I suspected it was being stored.

    There should be a class action lawsuit because it is a privacy violation, a theft of personal information.

    Given the fact that it’s likely most people’s information is already in “the system” how do we protect ourselves from an assault against “dissidents”?

    Anti-drone drones perhaps? I think it’s very important for people who understand this technology to discover solutions or a way to mitigate this threat. I don’t see a lawsuit being effective to be honest. They aren’t going to give up the data.

    • cu.h.j
      I’m so glad you said ” They aren’t going to give up the data.” Any judicial inquiry can’t penetrate the sanctuary of white coat priesthood. It goes hand in hand with their mental malpractice.
      What’s needed is a Zoro hacker to destroy the data in warehouse or memory.

      • It’s the medical establishment that’s corrupt, no all individual doctors. Many doctors are just naive sort of like the “sheeple” analogy. Many are well meaning and do actually do good in many instances. Vaccines aren’t one of those instances.

      • They’d have to target other large databases too that others have used for genetic testing. A bunch of my family on both sides have used services to test for ancestry. In order to be really effective all the gene banks would need to go. I mentioned below about the “forensic genetic genealogy” which is used now to solve “cold cases” but can also be used for other purposes.

        My point is that because this kind of testing exists now and people aren’t going to walk around using gloves and burning their garbage to destroy their DNA, “they” can still get this info. And there’s no way to put the gene back in the bottle for any of this kind of tech.

  3. The political powers that “shouldn’t be”, have established The One World Order. It was made possible by their victims who fear freedom, fear self governance, fear the authorities who they let run their life. They are able to block out the horror, the risk, “The Most Dangerous Superstition” (by Larken Rose) creates. When it comes for them, it will be too late. The purpose of armies financed by their victims is to crush people who have realized “War is a Racket”, i.e., “Govt. is a racket”.
    Meanwhile, the voluntarists like me try to live as free as we can in an unfree world. We will know the end is close when all entertainment portraying revolt against authority as sane, moral, successful, disappears.

  4. On April 11, 2021 I wrote for a regional libertarian newsletter: “Coronavirus testing, which has become mandatory for many people who want to keep their jobs and places in school, involves a harvesting of their DNA and the use of a type of Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test(2). The samples from positive tests are now being sent through federal channels of labs and for the first time in history this information is being put in the Public Domain with identifying information attached. The potential for this system to be used to discriminate against American citizens is extraordinary.”
    See: http://joshuarayjongema.com/2021/04/11/dna-sovereignty-and-the-coronavirus/

    Then again on July 23, 2021 I wrote: “In March 2020, the Donald Trump Administration signed the Coronavirus Relief Act into law, which among other things allotted 500 million dollars for a new database of COVID-specific genomic data.”
    See: http://joshuarayjongema.com/2021/07/23/eugenics-and-the-pandemic-response/

    I never saw feedback on those articles, but today my worries have been confirmed. Thank you for this great interview. The details provided here demonstrate that much is at stake.

    Not only can medical interventions be sent to you by drone, but drugs targetting your personal DNA can be employed to assinate you silently. This is the power people have when you give them your DNA and they can legally keep it and do anything they want with it.

    • “This is the power people have when you give them your DNA and they can legally keep it and do anything they want with it.”

      Indeed it is. But they can take DNA from other items, like someone’s trash, or follow them around and collect a cup or spoon. Saliva is a great source of DNA. There’s even touch DNA that can be obtained and sequenced. No one is safe.

      My point is that it’s hard to keep one’s DNA safe or private nowadays even if a person never put’s in it a database.

      The silver lining to me is the limitation to understanding genetics in it’s entirety. I think they claim to know more than they actually do and that to me is comforting. As far as identifying people, yes they can do that and maybe have a drone come and kill the person, “the dissident” or “threat”

      In my opinion I think “narrative” is probably the most effective way to stop this kind of thing coupled with refusal to comply and refusing to support these endeavors financially.

  5. Although I enjoyed the dialog overall, I found this interview lacking a minimum level of scientific rigor. Zowe speaks of the genome information being stored in databases, but doesn’t clearly identify whether she is speaking of the viral genome or the human genome of the patient being tested for CV19 via PCR. PCR itself cannot analyze an entire genome – that is done via DNA sequencing or gel electrophoresis.

    • Good point. My assumption was that they could do both keeping the DNA swab for other purposes. There were companies who did Covid tests for free and also free through large research hospitals. You could drive through and swab and get your test done and receive the result via email (I think). I always wondered why private companies would do this for free.

      Now your comment makes me want to look into this further because if they can only use the swab for one test, the Covid test, then they wouldn’t be able to retain patient genomic data. I had assumed that they must be able to use the DNA from the swab for the Covid test and for research purposes, i.e. the swab could be used more than once. Or they could cut it into pieces? Maybe I’m wrong though.

      But I never signed any consent to give my DNA for any other purpose besides the Covid test. I just never trusted giving up my DNA but unfortunately I needed to continue working, so had little choice given that I work in healthcare.

      Where I was working, there was no option to test for genetic diseases simultaneously like she mentioned. But different states were doing different things, so that might have happened in other parts of the country.

    • For me it was perfectly clear they gathered *your* DNA with the swab, then send it to a lab and “desequenced” (is that a word?) it and store it in a database.

      So everyone ever had a swab in his nose has a cattle tag now that cannot be changed or removed. And it can be exploited in other ways like developing toxins that only kill you.

      • It’s called whole genomic sequencing when they look at the entire DNA molecule and translate that into a genetic code. They can also sequence mitochondrial DNA as well that would also be obtained by the swab.

      • Even if some folks never took a Covid test, many people have used genetic testing services for purposes of finding family members or just out of curiosity about heritage. This can be used in “forensic genetic genealogy” to solve cases of murder that occurred over 30 years ago. So even if people never put their DNA out there, if their family members have (and many people have done these seemingly benign tests), their entire family can be identified.

        Point being, very few people are safe from this kind of thing.

    • Which again ties into the fact “sequencing” a soup of “genetic” material doesn’t really tell you anything.
      Also factoring in the fact that the whole concept of DNA and it’s related helix design is as much of a matter of artistic conception as spike protein is.

  6. As soon as hospitals switched from paper charts to computer charting, HIPPA became completely irrelevant. It was used as a smokescreen so people would think their info was being protected, when in reality, anyone in on the scam had free reign with everyone’s medical information. In 2009, my hospital in Grants Pass, Oregon switched to computer charting using the program “Epic” that Zoe mentions. All our medical info is most likely in Palantir’s hands, unless we go to naturopaths or other unconnected health care folks. People need to become responsible for their own health and learn how to take care of themselves, without going to brainwashed docs who only know what they learned in Rockefeller medical schools. Learn about real food, alternative therapies, and other health promoting ideas. Everything the medical establishment promotes is inverted, like “cholesterol is bad” when it’s necessary for brain health and all hormone production in the body. Only 5% of cholesterol comes from food, it’s self regulating in everyone’s body! And docs know nothing about a healthy diet, like that promoted by “Nourishing Traditions”. We need to eat like our great grandparents did on the farm!!!!

    • Many doctor’s just don’t think critically and evaluate research on their own. They don’t use the basic science skills they were taught and instead go to “official sources” and regurgitate that, supplanting their own thinking process. Some doctor’s don’t do this though and some of these critically thinking doctor’s still work in “the system”

      I didn’t know Epic was connected to Palintir, or any other EMR for that matter and this was very educational for me.

      There are some good things that have come from Western medicine though, like some surgeries for traumatic injuries, organ transplants, intensive care medicine, etc. It’s unfortunate that the good things seem so enmeshed with the bad.

      Even people with the perfect diet and in the most perfect environment can still get sick with some awful disease or need major surgery. Personally, I like having some of the advanced medical technology if I need it in the future.

    • i looked at the link and the lioness’s substack. i see that she extracted dialog and basically mirrored the interview. i dont see any questions about it or critique of james. i dont know what you mean by this comment.

  7. Im surprised no one else commented that the lady appears to be transgender. I assumed it was to disguise (his) true identity. The name seems manufactured as well. The information in this interview is fantastic, vital, and scary. Well done to James and Zowie.

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