Episode 224 - R2P or: How the Left Learned to Stop Worrying and Embrace Wars of Imperial Aggression

03/31/20125 Comments

If the last three years have taught us anything, it is that the so-called anti-war liberal left can be made to become cheerleaders for the same war agenda that they pretended to deride during the Bush Administration. How was this accomplished? A developing doctrine of international law called "Responsibility to Protect." Join us this week as we expose the liberal "war is peace" agenda and ponder how best to disarm it.



Democracy Now "Debate" on U.S. Military Intervention in Libya: Juan Cole v. Vijay Prashad
Time Reference: 04:47


Rachel Maddow - Obama's War in Libya is a Justifiable War
Time Reference: 07:52


Cenk Supports Obama Position on Libya
Time Reference: 08:30


Bush speech on Iraq war
Time Reference: 10:08


Bill Clinton statement on Kosovo campaign
Time Reference: 10:22


Brzezinski talking to the "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan
Time Reference: 11:09


1984 Audio Book
Time Reference: 11:55


Pepe Escobar on R2P
Time Reference: 15:52


The report of the International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty (ICISS) - Responsibility to Protect
Time Reference: 22:20


Information on UN peacekeeper abuses
Time Reference: 30:46


Lloyd Axworthy lecture on Responsibility to Protect
Time Reference: 31:47


The Assassination of Gaddafi – GRTV Backgrounder
Time Reference: 36:48


Madeleine Albright Defends Mass-Murder of iraqi Children (500,000 Children dead)
Time Reference: 43:09


R2P in Crisis Following UN Syria Vote
Time Reference: 52:08


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  1. dfx says:

    I’m confused…

    Are we fighting ISIS, or ICISS?

    Both are violations of sovereignity.

  2. VoltaicDude says:

    Thanks for this pod TODAY – luckily you have no “proper” sense of what constitutes “news.”

    “We” are right in the middle of a news-lull (a period of “low-news” intensity) – a refraction period, so to speak – until the public at large has regained its stamina and appetite for some more intense Trump-news.

    Trump-news > a break and a cigarette; Trump-news > a break and a cigarette; Trump-news > a break and a cigarette; etc.: it’s the current cycle (by “consensus” of course) (or the current addiction, depending on your angle).

    I still have a vague memory of that feeling myself – I “should” want to chastise you, James, for not running a wet-puppy-story today!

    Juan Cole is definitely a hoot. In the past I actually referenced some other work of his helping to expose the real death-toll (millions) of Iraqi civilians as “fallout” of the U.S. invasion in 2003.

    But, as you show in your own response, his commentary and reasoning in support of the regime-change-invasion of Libya was founded in falsehoods and illogic – totally in line with the corrupt agenda by U.S.-NATO aggressors.

    Yes, the U.S.-NATO community has no validity in its various roles as “protector” – They are brutal, ruthless, imperial players with zero credibility.

    An Empire that creates, props-up, and maintains violent terrorism through the likes of al Qaeda, al Nusra and ISIS (including the use of Sarin gas in Syria by these terrorist groups), has no credibility as anybody’s honest protector.

    Now that Cheney’s campaign has re-popularized “torture” (fuck the Geneva Convention, as Victoria Nuland might say), we can also forget the wisdom behind the lefts previous aversion to war in general (fuck the lessons of the Vietnam War – that’s just history dude).

    Meanwhile, a wet-puppy-story is not always a wet-puppy-story:
    (It says slideshow, but maybe they meant “sideshow?”)

    (NOTE (the obligatory, P.C. disclaimer): The abuse of all animals is inherently indefensible, a profound insult to humanity itself, and a symptom of the institutionalized pathologies of our cultures and societies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_animal_farming)

    “Now can we get this show on the road already? Let’s go bomb those heathen Chinamen – yeeeee-haaa – giddy- yup little bomby!”

    • VoltaicDude says:

      On the other hand…(been chilling, mulling, watching TV, casual)…who am I to judge… maybe I’ve got this all wrong…and maybe they’re all right…alright!…OK!…Funny.

      Maybe they’re not engaged in some big, deep deception (The New American Century).

      Maybe all this is just the Inception of some new world vision.

      Maybe it will be a kinder, gentler world…maybe…maybe that would be nice…that might make us feel good…mmm…mmmaybe…

      (…swing left, swing right…swing left, swing right…swing left, swing right…you’re getting sleepier and sleepier…sleepier and sleepier…(remember, the “onion” is good)…shhhh…

      (…maybe that PBS Frontline II documentary, The Secret History of ISIS, is “good”…

      (…mmm…good…maybe they’re alright…they’ll tell us the truth…poor Cheney…poor Rumsfeld…poor “escalating” Obama…

      (…they just couldn’t see it coming…poor innocent… bumbling Empire…

      (…don’t even bother thinking of them anymore…they’re not the issue…they’re not a problem…

      (…but remember Zarqawi…Zarqawi bad….Zarqawi bad…Zarqawi…Zarqawi…Zarqawi…

      (…(and the Mockingbird lives)…shhhh…sleepier and sleepier…))))))).

      …suddenly my radio-alarm-clock goes off, and I am rudely awoken!!!…

      “…and we decide which is right, and which is an illusion…”

  3. Mohawk Man says:

    James, I ask all your supporters to please say prayers for Medea Benjamin and her fellow Patriots at Code Pink. An urgent call to Interpol may be appropriate as well. (milk carton pictures may have to be reinstituted)

    See James, this anti- war activist must be deathly ill and may have even passed away (along with the rest of Code Pink–maybe a virus..close contact situation).

    Miss Benjamin and the other Pinko’s (thats proper plural usage, I think– I hope I didn’t mess that up)has gone missing FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS OR SO!!!!!!!!!!

    Either that or she’s living in a Penthouse at #1 Rothschild Blvd, Tel Aviv. Either way..FIND HER-PRAY HARD.

    Jesus was an anti-statist Anarchist. That’s why he was HATED by the statists.

  4. ypyrkh says:

    War is apparently a bloody religion, with civilians as a virgin sacrifice(not trained to kill and have nothing to gain from it), but it plays well into the hands of the “priests” to keep population in check

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