Conspiracy Theorists Are Wrong!!! . . . Even When They’re Right! – #PropagandaWatch

07/14/202043 Comments

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We tend to think the propagandists are self-consciously lying to the public, but there are moments when the mask slips and we see that the most effective propagandists are the ones that actually believe their own lies. Today we look at one such moment of zen.

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Episode 265 – The Myth of Journalistic Objectivity

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May 18-19, 2016 — Newly-released Snowden disclosures verify NSA’s FIRSTFRUIT database

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  1. cas says:

    imo: at what point are we going to pull this weed out by the root and stop just pruning the leaves? the root of this is a mental/emotional disorder: malignant narcissism (both covert and overt) and sociopathy. are we not just constantly debunking lies and deceit instead of looking at the dysfunction/disorder itself?

    its an inability to feel authentic empathy &/or connection to other life. all they do is twist and turn facts into nearly unrecognizable issues…for their own entertainment. we have to educate ourselves in this to be able to recognise it and move round it. the unstoppable power has met an immovable force. like a bolder in a river.
    peace all, x

    • I Shot Santa says:

      Or even the root problems of the people. If the people spent as much time looking at the government as they do with porn or video games, we wouldn’t have to worry about the government neurosis’s. We’d just institutionalize them.

      • cas says:

        hey santa,
        i get the impression that, like with all cultural dysfunction, porn and video games are strategically pushed into our environment by covert groups to influence us. ie: don’t look at people like humans – look at them like sexual objects to use(dehumanising) and don’t explore and question your environment – kill things in cyber world, mostly with a human appearance (again dehumanising).

        it may be time to turn off our tv’s and put down our dumbphones people.

        • I Shot Santa says:

          True; but the devil only tempts us. He never makes us. I never got into tv. But, since I now live by a river, I rely on my dumbphone to access the net. A serious catch 22 situation for me!

          • cas says:

            yes, temptation. but when the alternatives are often covertly outlawed and/or banned from society by various means by the government institutions, its no longer choice.

            when all options are open and tolerance for them by all sides is given, then we can say it is the devils temptation. a choice. right now, all i see is society being emotionally blackmailed into abusing each other and bottle-necked into one way only.

            • I Shot Santa says:

              But truth is always hard to find. Even the ancient mystics hid their truths from the great unwashed. It’s as if one must seek to find it.

    • dregeye says:

      The perspective that ‘humans’ have a dominion-mandate (rather than balanced co-habitation) combined with social-economic-industrial-political-technological structures that elevate sociopaths/psychopaths to the highest echelons of ‘power’ (i.e., a “civilization” wherein empathy is a liability), further, that the most ‘successful’ are empowered to continually shape those structures to secure and enhance their continued elevation within them, simultaneously brings to those individuals escalating-isolation and enhanced-authority-projection, which supports your observation, “an inability to feel authentic empathy &/or connection to other life.”
      An attitude of mutual respect with inclusive cooperation can alleviate the imbalances currently experienced.
      Possibly the dysfunction, the inability of the existing aforementioned ‘structures’ to meet the needs of Earth’s lifeforms, rather, vividly preventing life from thriving, perhaps this will be sufficient to motivate us to initiate a transition to experimenting with non-dominion perspectives.
      Earth’s natural abundance thrives when we are ‘being’ more and ‘doing’ less.

  2. Octium says:

    Reminds me of the old Joke, I’m sure you have heard it…

    My Wife is a Chicken

    A man runs to the doctor and says, “Doctor, you’ve got to help me. My wife thinks she’s a chicken!”
    The doctor asks, “How long has she had this condition?”
    “Two years,” says the man.
    “Then why did it take you so long to come and see me?” asked the shrink.

    The man shrugs his shoulders and replies, “We needed the eggs.”

  3. robert.t says:

    I dunno. Still finding it hard to believe that a gigantic surveillance agency with a budget the size of some nations would spy on journalists, government employees, politicians, private citizens etc. Sure, every second movie (ie the ones that aren’t about killing the infected because they’re now zombies) is about gigantic agencies which spy on everybody. Doesn’t mean a sheltered boy like Barton knows about such things in real life.

    I can see how Barton Gellman would have trouble coming to terms with all that. The poor lamb is probably still in shock.

    • I Shot Santa says:

      I left the corporate world in June, 2003. Even then, we all knew that all of our emails, and web browsing, was monitored by the home office. One reason was because they told us they did so. And, I still remember this one kid who was chided for his excessive porn time. So why would it be so hard to believe that an agency devoted to sticking their noses in other people’s business would do such a thing?

      • robert.t says:

        Maybe sheltered Barton was waiting for the NSA (for example) to put up a big hoarding saying “We are an enormous snooping oufit and we spy on journalists, government employees, politicians, private citizens…and everybody else. Duh. Our excuse is cokehead Arabs with box-cutters. Or something. We operate in parallel with the likes of Snowden and Assange so people will stay terrified of state power but not raise doubts about cokehead Arabs with box-cutters.”

        Can I have my Pulitzer now?

        • I Shot Santa says:

          It is a strange world that we’ve created. It’s as if people like him are just completely unable to even consider that people can be evil if they do what they do while carrying their government card. Somehow, the notion that government must be working for us, though it may make mistakes, is the only reality they allow in their minds. The notion that only the corrupt, and those that have no control over themselves, seek power over others (which is what government does) can never be entertained. It is always double-plus good.

  4. flammable says:

    Again there is this paranoia with anything different then the official story of 9/11. Why does Gelman call out what Wayne wrote as outlandish accusation when it is not Wayne actually saying the US government was definitely involved in 9/11?

    The quote was “plugging any leaks of classified or other information that points to US government’s involvement with the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.” Point means direct at, to, or upon something. Information could mean anything about the government and 9/11. Obviously there is information pointing to US government involvement.

    There is no way they can not be involved whether through errors or negligence in security or direct execution and planning. It’s a non-controversial statement and it’s true. Look at the MSM coverage and see that they made it a point to have all responsibility of the event put on the terrorists. Everything else was plugged.

  5. MagicBullet says:

    Citizen Propaganda Watch Episode 1:
    The curious “Covid re-infection” of Cheri Hegi

    See the story from 4:21 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyEBIpaIaM
    The husband is on the “there is no herd immunity” drumbeat around 21:15.
    The gofundme campaign at: https://www.gofundme.com/f/my-wife-is-very-sick-with-covid19

    But:
    1. There was no discussion or documentation showing how she was diagnosed.
    2. She’s ill with Covid, why is her young child in front of her face at 10:12?
    3. Before her illness the family only used masks going to the store and isolated themselves, but no other family member got it, were they tested?
    4. From his co website below, Adam Hegi her husband “co-founded several startups in the tech sector, including Guru Computers which he sold in 2007 after 11 years of service. Adam has consulted with HUNDREDS of clients across industries, including law enforcement and DARPA” [JC spiny sense growing].
    -Why does someone with Adam’s work history of “hundreds of clients” need a gofundme campaign to scrape up a meager $10k?
    -He says he’s a consultant, why does he have to “reinvent himself at home”?
    https://clarity.fm/adamhegi
    https://www.illumin8.com/company/

    Is this real or a story? I’ll let the Corbeteers weigh in on it.

  6. huna says:

    There is a name for these people … “Useful Idiot” … a person who believes the lie they are telling is the truth.

  7. Arby says:

    I’ve come across Wayne Madsen’s written material here and there and always found it to be okay. His website is a mess. I can’t even tell from it whether he’s involved with it.

  8. HomeRemedySupply says:

    This episode of #PropagandaWatch was kind of nostalgic for me.
    I remember Wayne Madsen back in the day.
    Alex Jones often had him on, and some of his stuff was at 911blogger.com.

    I’m glad that Corbett brought this up about some reporters are actually trying to be ‘sincere’ (in their way and with blinders on).
    I guess Barton Gellman was eating quail disguised as crow.

    I like a local reporter, Dallas Observer’s Jim Schutze, because sometimes he really goes at it. During the JFK 50th anniversary he adamantly opposed the City of Dallas’ sterile celebration which deliberately overlooked the cover-up and assassination. With his articles, Jim even defended Alex Jones during that event.
    However, at other times, Jim really misses the mark. He just can’t quite ‘go there’.
    He retired (again) in May 2020 from the Dallas Observer, by “mutual agreement”.

  9. sherry.a says:

    I had an interesting experience at a San Francisco park we visit with around 5 friends every day..one good friend watches fox news…clearly we are on different side of conclusions and ‘reality’ but today we got into a heated discussion where he fired at me..’you believe in conspiracy theories and go down rabbit holes’…first gently then a little boisterously I responded: ‘true I have no TV and do not watch Fox news..but I had a question for my friend..’Why could he not hold 2 thoughts in his head..his own version of ‘facts’ and then mine??…he fired back because we live in 2 different realities’..which I answered..’Absolutely’..I pleaded that he consider simply holding 2 views…asking..’why do you have to make me WRONG to feel RIGHT?’ If you think I am stupid then why would you care?’ He asked if I thought the CDC was lying..I responded..’ABSOLUTELY’… He said he didn’t think I was stupid but went on and on and on..it is fascinating how threatened people can feel about an opposing view..everyone in our group felt uncomfortable and I am going to have to find another park to read and for fresh air…this covid and trump debacle is tearing relationships and society at the fabric..tragic!

    • I Shot Santa says:

      People can’t stand it if you don’t have the same opinions on things. They feel threatened somehow. And the less they look into something, the more aggressive they become. I think they know they are ignorant on it and feel they are somehow stupid. Of course, their reaction makes them stupid. Is it really tearing relationships apart; or were these relationships too shallow to survive any hardship?

  10. biek says:

    My late father was a journo for the UK Daily Mail newspaper. He often told me that the only thing you can believe about a newspaper is the date – and even that staledates in a matter of hours.

    Newspapers shared journalists, printed each-other’s newspapers when there was technical trouble, rehashed the same old stories time and again and shamelessly told utter knowing lies.

    One article that still repeats even now is the “Where is Lord Lucan?” story. He told me that most journalists knew that Lord Lucan was living in the South of France and some even had his phone number.

    I will not name my late father, but he was an utterly cynical, sadistic creep, and methinks par for the course for the rabble who work for media. (And ordinary people think that journalism is an illustrious career!)

    I would go further than my father: My take is that “Given a choice between two fiction programmes on the tv, I would choose ‘Star Trek’ any day, over the BBC News.”…

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      biek,
      Thanks.
      That was an interesting anecdote. For sure!

      To me, often anecdotes provide much better information than published news stories, or even ‘science studies’.

  11. Fawlty Towers says:

    If anyone here wants to enjoy a puke fest, a video was released last week of Mr. Bill Gates, who sleazes his way through a 43 minute interview
    in which he describes his thoughts about what has transpired and what we can expect in the coming months on the Covid front.

    This one is truly cringeworthy!

    A masterful hand-waving propagandist. 🙁

    Watch him squirm uncomfortably out of a few tough questions put to him in the second half.

    ‘How the pandemic will shape the near future | Bill Gates’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmQWOPDqxWA

    • HomeRemedySupply says:

      Thanks for posting this.
      I was watching it the other day, but had to grab my vomit bag.
      I never finished watching.

      ‘How the pandemic will shape the near future | Bill Gates’
      TED talk (kind of)

      • Fawlty Towers says:

        The first tough question was about the so-called ‘conspiracy theorists’
        who were claiming he had plans to insert ID chips into people along with the Covid vaccine.

        Gates smiled and denied it of course.

        The interviewer then admonished the professional writer who had suggested this in her article. He went so far as to demand a retraction/apology from her!

        Of course if there is an ID chip inserted down the Covid road, Gates will simply say, at the time of his interview he had no plans of doing so,
        but vaccine developers subsequently convinced him it was a good idea.

        The second tough question was concerning his massive wealth and his
        philanthropy.

        The interviewer tried to get Gates to commit a certain percentage of his total wealth each year to charities, rather than leaving a huge sum at his death, which would do them no good in the coming decades.

        Gates squirmed and was noncommittal.
        Not happy with his response, the interviewer asked the question a second time.
        Gates squirmed some more and remained noncommittal.

        • Fact Checker says:

          I don’t see how you could have interpreted the flitty interviewer’s hyperactive sphincter-licking as “tough questions.” He was purely obediance-signalling by flogging the go-to straw-man “conspiracy” community.
          And Gates didn’t squirm—-he gloated.
          I don’t know which is more distasteful: Gates’s spergy honky-squawk or the interviewer’s slavering verbal fellatio.

  12. I Shot Santa says:

    https://youtu.be/q3U8EcOGBZA

    Adam Lawson sings the truth. And quite well.

  13. victoria says:

    mainstream media can be considered a branch of the entertainment industry ~ many, many mind controlled puppets with internally embedded scripted agenda… slaves monitored & handled, who also may hv such duties.

    of course, msm also political, military, etc — cia & media moguls… Operation Mockingbird

    In 1948 Frank Wisner was appointed director of the Office of Special Projects. Soon afterwards it was renamed the Office of Policy Coordination (OPC). This became the espionage and counter-intelligence branch of the Central Intelligence Agency. Wisner was told to create an organization that concentrated on “propaganda, economic warfare; preventive direct action, including sabotage, anti-sabotage, demolition and evacuation measures; subversion against hostile states, including assistance to underground resistance groups, and support of indigenous anti-Communist elements in threatened countries of the free world.”

    Later that year Wisner established Mockingbird, a program to influence the domestic American media. Wisner recruited Philip Graham (Washington Post) to run the project within the industry. Graham himself recruited others who had worked for military intelligence during the war. This included James Truitt, Russell Wiggins, Phil Geyelin, John Hayes and Alan Barth. Others like Stewart Alsop, Joseph Alsop and James Reston, were recruited from within the Georgetown Set. According to Deborah Davis, the author of Katharine the Great (1979) : “By the early 1950s, Wisner ‘owned’ respected members of the New York Times, Newsweek, CBS and other communications vehicles.”

    Henry Luce, the owner of a large media empire, became a key figure in Operation Mockingbird. David Halberstam has pointed out in The Powers That Be (1979): “Luce’s politics hardened in the postwar years and Time had become increasingly Republican in its tone. He had been stunned by Truman’s defeat of Dewey in 1948. Then in the fall of 1949 China had fallen, the Democratic administration had failed to save Chiang, and that was too much; Truman, and even more Acheson, would have to pay the price. Time was now committed and politicized, an almost totally partisan instrument. The smell of blood was in the air. There was a hunger now in Luce to put a Republican back in power. It was as if Luce, between elections, stood as the leader of the opposition, a kingmaker who had failed to produce a king. The fall of China and the rise of a post-war anti-Communist mood had produced the essential issue to use against the Democrats: softness on Communism.”

    • Jed says:

      Great link, now I’m gonna be pissed off and fired up for the rest of the day.

      Cover your mouth slave,
      You’ve nothing to say,
      the trouble with truth is,
      it gets in our way.

      “Project Mockingbird” worked,
      way back in its day,
      but with lie after lie
      we forgot what to say.

      We paid the reporters
      ran venomous reviews,
      blamed things on commies,
      liberals and Jews.

      But it’s gotten too much now,
      its too big a task.
      We find it much easier
      if you’d all wear a mask.

      • Steve Smith says:

        Dude, you make that look easy. I am envious.

        • Jed says:

          Thanks Steve, see if any part of that works in with your chords.

          • Steve Smith says:

            I will do that.
            I checked out Dylan’s video. It encourages me to hear such wisdom from young people.
            I definitely recognized people that I have tried to “reason” with as he described the various tactics used by people in an effort to manipulate. Sadly I recognized myself at times as well.

            I attended one of Larken Rose’s Candles In The Dark meetings a couple years ago. With his Socratic method and Dylan’s method of standing up to conversation manipulators. Perhaps I can be more effective in reaching people with the truth.

            Aw who am I kidding? I’ll just get passionate and then they think I am angry and talks will break down as always.
            If I could just learn to sound like I don’t really give a crap about what I’m saying.

            • I Shot Santa says:

              People claim your passion is anger because so few people have any passion. Truth is that most people aren’t worth caring about. They’re just gelatinous lumps of fear afraid of losing a life they hate.

            • Jed says:

              He makes it so simple; communicating or dominating, so easy to apply. I’ve also learned how often I’m trying to dominate rather than exchange. Rarely is there anything to win, so why bother.

  14. HomeRemedySupply says:

    mid-July 2020
    New York Times – shakeup of ‘journalists’
    Somewhat related to this Corbett “Conspiracy Theorists Are Wrong!!! . . . Even When They’re Right! – #PropagandaWatch”

    The New York Times is often considered a pillar by a broad net of liberal minded folks.
    Currently, there is an internal journalistic shake-up.

    EXCERPTS
    opinion editor Bari Weiss has left the paper and penned a scorching resignation letter denouncing the Times as nothing more than an echo chamber for ‘woke’ activists masquerading as journalists who believe dissent has no place on the platform…

    …Bari Weiss:
    “The New Guard has a different worldview, one articulated best by @JonHaidt
    and @glukianoff
    . They call it “safetyism,” in which the right of people to feel emotionally and psychologically safe trumps what were previously considered core liberal values, like free speech.”

    Zero Hedge
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bari-weiss-quits-new-york-times-slams-paper-abari-weiss-quits-new-york-times-excoriates

    and

    NYT ‘Chief Threat To Democracy’: Eric Weinstein Takes Flamethrower To Paper Of Record After Bari Weiss Quits
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nyt-chief-threat-democracy-eric-weinstein-takes-flamethrower-paper-record-after-bari

  15. lesk says:

    This is so typical. The elite are of course providing us with our “heroes” like Snowden. He comes out with something everyone knew for long time and this way the MSM can also pretend they are “real” journalists. It has always been like this. We know all too well what they do with the true heroes and their information.

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